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Re: Darby: TTer and RVer of Da Fyooocher

The nuclear war of 2015, 200 years later is similar, except even worse. The oceans freeze over and temperatures drop to -150 below. Howling 300mph winds ravage the devastated postnuke landscape. Remote viewers tell of a hypercatastrophe so great that only people in deep underground shelters were able to survive.

And "The Lady's" shelter that you bought (or is it the one that you and dad dug?) is not only "deep" but you're going to haul +10 years of food, fuel and water, on your Vespa no less, to your shelter and dig in for a decade?

Do you have any idea just how cold -150 degrees is? What is the average surface temperature on Mars?

You'd better dig that hole a mile deep so that you get some geothermal heat going, my friend. At -150 degrees the ground is going to freeze just a tad deeped than you might want to contemplate. And the air is going to be a might dry at that temperature...not to mention cold. You have, of course, factored into your plans how you plan to heat your air and humidify it, haven't you? You won't be using a solar panel because you'll be underground and the sun won't be shining in any case. You have a nuclear reactor? Hydrogen cells? What is your source of energy for the ten years that you're down in your Dr. Strangelove bunker?
 
Re: Darby: TTer and RVer of Da Fyooocher

To Darby:

It is easier to stay asleep than to wake up and face reality. John Titor said that they got help from the russians. Did you know that the russians are helping rebel groups inside the US? Take a look at the break away republics. The threat is not arabs, but soviet style revolutionaries. BTW Cuba and Venezuela recognize the two new countries AKA rebel regions in georgia.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/26/russia.georgia1?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

What John Titor spoke of the "Fighting Diamondbacks" is SOP. First they create rebel groups and rebel regions, then they attack. The weakness the US is showing now is what gives them the go ahead to attack.

"At -150 degrees the ground is going to freeze just a tad deeped than you might want to contemplate."

The shelter I have can hold twenty men. The shelters are design to withstand a nuclear attack. There is air filtration equipment and water filtration. The big problem is that the shelter although large is dark and dank, like a large cavern. Hard to get used to.

A neighbor took his young daughter out of school because he wants her to grow up with other "survival children." Many of these people used to live in the city, but are now farming.

All are new money and rich. All are hard workers and determined to survive. One of my neighbors has a gigantic warehouse with everything including giant machines and even a boat. Another is currently building his shelter and is building a giant underground swiming pool. Some people plan to ride out the apocalypse in style.

Some will survive and some will not, but at least they are attempting to do something, which is more than I can say for you. Most of the survivalist have no idea how bad things are going to be. Most of the large forests catch fire. The landscape after the war looks quite different, RV it and see.

The solution to cold temperatures is simplicity itself. Use a natural gas generator, as gasoline will freeze solid before you get to 150. My dad went to Antarctica and understand intense cold. His experience in building shelter is quite valuable now.

There is a huge demand for shelters, funny as the real estate market for certain types of property is now red hot. Namely old abandoned mines, try to buy one.
 
Re: Darby: TTer and RVer of Da Fyooocher

The shelter I have can hold twenty men. The shelters are design to withstand a nuclear attack. There is air filtration equipment and water filtration. The big problem is that the shelter although large is dark and dank, like a large cavern. Hard to get used to.

Surviving the initial attack is the easy part. The hard part is surviving for years underground following the attack. The shelter has to be specifically designed and equipped for that purpose.

You've said that people have sought out your advice on survival techniques and you've given it to them. In other words you've offered expert advise to other people; advise that in the future they will apparently rely on for their survival. If you're right they might survive. If you're wrong they will be quite dead.

So let's just look at your shelter one item at a time and see if you've planned adequately:

We'll only look at the air temperature that you gave...-150 F. You're not going to agrue that at that temperature there will be any water vapor in the air are you? Let's hope not.

Your incoming -150 F air is bone dry. And you have a shelter that's big enough for 20 people. That's one big shelter. But, OK. If you say it's that big then it is.

You didn't speficy how big a 20 person shelter is. I'll ask but I don't expect that you'll answer. So I'll just plug in a value:

I'm going to assume that your 20 person shelter is 20m x 20m x 2m high. That's 800 cubic meters volume of air filling the shelter. I'll also assume that your air filtration system evacuates and refills (cycles) the air 4 times per day. Energy is at a premium so I'll assume that you only heat the air to 20 C (68 F) and that you'll only raise the humidity of the inside air to 50%. That's still very dry air. People inside will have to drink a lot of water. But, as I said, energy is at a premium and there's also the problem of mold if you over saturate the air. Last assumption is that the only water available is the water you have in the shelter. The outside water is super cooled to -150 degrees. It's hard as rock and radioactive.

OK...

1 m^-3 air at 20 C and 50% humidity contains ~9 gm H2O. Therefore 800 m^-3 holds ~7,200 gm of H2O.

You recycle the air and vent it to the outside 4X per day. The air thus contained 28,800 gm H2O. For a complete year the requirement is 10,512,000 gm H2O.

I'll be generous. You'll only make plans to be down there for 5 years. Your air humidification requirement for 5 years will be:

10,512,000 gm H2O x 5 = 52,560,000 gm H2O.

It just happens that 1 liter of water weighs 1 kg at 4 C...close enough at 20 C. Divide the above by 1000 and we have:

52,560 liters of water that has to be stored just to humidify the air for 5 years. You need to store that water in your shelter. (BTW: that's ~13,300 gallons)

What's the volume of the water?
1 liter = .001 m^-3
52,560 liters = 52.5 m^-3.

(I do love working in metric...especially when it involves H2O.)

So, in your 800 cubic meter shelter you're going to use 52.5 cubic meters of your space just to store water to humidify the air for 5 years.

And we haven't put any actual people, food or drinking water in yet. We don't need to worry too much about toilet water because we'll try to recapture at least some of the water from the out air vent and use it for bathing and toilets. But that does take energy - and so far we're short on that.

So, talk to me, Kid. How much food and water have you planned for? How much have you told others to stock up on for the duration? Fifty-two thousand liters of water to humidify the air is a whole lot of water to store for purposes other than drinking.

<a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://villagehealthworks.org/images/watertank3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://villagehealthworks.org/clinical_program02.html&h=272&w=300&sz=36&hl=en&start=1&usg=__zJ_VSRnilLIhIL_tqBvh2v13CGA=&tbnid=3vogzGdgbgb2UM:&tbnh=105&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3D50,000%2Bliter%2Bwater%2Btank%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN" target="_blank">50,000 Liter Water Tank</a>

Scroll down the page to see a picture of a 50,000 liter water tank to get an idea of the size and volume we're talking about.

I really do invite you yout talk to us about the above. Please don't just blow this off with a typical HDRKid change of subject non sequitur. If you're serious about what you've said then your life might depend on it. Certainly, if you really hae advised others about survival, their lives depend on it.

Talk to us.

For the next session - what are you using for your radiation detection? Specific make and model. It's vitally important to have that information if we're going to talk about survival in a radioactive environment.
 
Obama named Democrats\' candidate

and:
Obama named Democrats' candidate
from:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7584307.stm


Barack Obama has been formally named as the Democrats' candidate for the White House, the first African-American to be nominated by a major US party.

In a gesture of unity, Hillary Clinton, who lost to Mr Obama in her bid to be the party's presidential candidate, called a halt to a roll call of states.


:D
 
Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

I overheard that Obamas birth certificate was being investigated.
Is that true or just a rumor?
 
Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

I overheard that Obamas birth certificate was being investigated.
Is that true or just a rumor?

here on TTI:
Obama sued...

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Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

Pamela,

Yes he has been sued by Phil Berg, former Attorney General for PA - and a Clinton supporter. Dues the suit have merit? On the face of it it appears to have merit if and only if the facts are true and can be verified through competent evidence (meaning evidence that is admissible at trial). The controversy involves whether or not Obama is a "natural born" U.S. citizen, a U.S. citizen at all and/or if he is also a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia, both or all three - and whether or not he committed perjury when registering as a candidate for the US Presidency.

Here's a copy of the Complaint:

________________________________________

PHILIP J. BERG v. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA - Complaint
U.S.D.C. - E.D. PA ^ | 08/22/2008 | Philip J. Berg

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE EASTERN DISTRICT OF PENNSYLVANIA
PHILIP J. BERG, ESQUIRE


VS. CIVIL ACTION NO.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA, a1k/a
BARRY SOETORO, a1k/a
BARRY OBAMA, a1k/a JURY TRIAL DEMANDED
BARACK DUNHAM, a/k/a
BARRY DUNHAM,
THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL
COMMITTEE,
THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION AND
DOES 1-50 INCLUSIVE

Defendants


COMPLAINT FOR DECLARTORY AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF PRELIMINARY STATEMENT

1. Article II, Section I of the United States Constitution, states in particular part, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been Fourteen Years a Resident within the United States." Furthermore, all Presidents since and including Martin Van Buren were born in the United States subsequent to the Declaration of Independence.

2. "The general doctrine of our Constitution is, that the executive power of the nation is vested in the President; subject only to the exceptions and qualifications, which are expressed in the instrument." 7 Works of Alexander Hamilton, J. C. Hamilton ed. (New York: 1851), 76, 80-81 (emphasis in original), U.S. Constitution, Article II (Hamilton and Madison.)

1. Obama is a representative of the Democratic People. However, the Obama must meet the Qualifications specified for the United States Office of the President, which is he must be a "natural born" citizen. Unfortunately, Obama is not a "natural born" citizen. Just to name one of the problems, Obama lost his U.S. citizenship when his mother married an Indonesian citizen and relocated herself and Obama to Indonesia wherein Obama's mother naturalized in Indonesia and Obama followed her naturalization, as he was a minor and in the custody of his mother. Obama failed to take the oath of allegiance when he turned eighteen (18) years to regain his United States Citizenship status.

2. The Democratic National Committee is for Plaintiff and "We the People" who believe in the Democratic Vision. The Democratic National Party is supposed to represent the Democratic Americans in seeking honest leadership, Open Government, Real Security, Energy Independence, Economic Prosperity, Educational Excellence, a Healthcare System that works for Everyone and Retirement Security. The Democratic Party is supposed to represent and protect the interests of working Americans and guaranteeing personal liberties for all. Of which includes securing a Democratic Nominee on the Presidential Election ballot who represents the Democratic vision and who is qualified and eligible to run for Office of the President under the qualifications of the United States Constitution.

3. The actions of Obama, a U.S. Senator, in running for President of the United States, knowing he is not eligible, have been taken entirely without authorization under the United States Constitution, completely ignoring the qualification and procedures created by the United States Constitution he is purporting to enforce.

6. Should Obama become the Nominee of the Democratic Party and then be discovered by virtue of malfeasance, or negligence, on his part not to have revealed material evidence showing him to be Ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and thereby his Nomination be declared void by the appropriate Authorities Acting under the Law, Plaintiff as well as other Democratic Americans will suffer Irreparable Harm including but not limited to:

A) Functional, or Actual, Disenfranchisement of large numbers of Citizens, being members of the Democratic Party, who would have been deprived of the ability to choose a Nominee of their liking;

B) Irreparable Harm to the structure and integrity of the Democratic Party and the Democratic National Committee. In tum, this too would lead to Disenfranchisement; and

C) A severe and genuine likelihood of Civil Disturbance by virtue of reaction to said Disenfranchisement.

JURISDICTION AND VENUE

1. This case arises under the Constitution and laws of the United States and presents a federal question within this Court's jurisdiction under Article III of the Constitution and 28 U.S.C. § 1331.

2. This Court has authority to grant declaratory relief pursuant to the Declaratory Judgment Act, 28 U.S. C. § 2201.

3. Venue is proper in this Court under 28 U.S.c. § 1391(b).

PARTIES

1. Plaintiff, Plaintiff, Philip J. Berg, Esquire [hereinafter "Plaintiff'], is an adult individual with a businessaddress of 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12, Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531.

2. Defendant, Barack Hussein Obama, alk/a Barry Soetoro, alkla Barry Obama, alk/a Barack Dunham, a/kla Barry Dunham [hereinafter "Obama" is an adult individual with an office address of713 Hatch, Senate Office Building, Washington D.C.

3. Obama, The Democratic National Committee (hereinafter referred to as "DNC") is a Corporation with a principal address of 430 S. Capitol Street SE, Washington, DC 20003.

4. Defendant, The Federal Election Commission (FEC) was created in 1975 by Congress to administer and enforce the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA). The FEC is a Governmental Agency with a principal address of 999 E Street, NW, Washington, DC 20463.

FACTUAL ALLEGATIONS

1. Since the beginning of the U.S. Constitution, in order to run for Office of the President, you must be a "natural born citizen" and you may not hold dual citizenship or multiple citizenships with foreign Countries. U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section 1.

2. There are questions as to where Obama was actually born, in the United States or abroad and then registered his birth. There are further questions regarding Obama's United States Citizenship, ifhe ever held such, being expatriated and his failure to regain his citizenship by taking the oath of allegiance once he turned eighteen (18) years of age. There are additional questions regarding Obama's multi citizenships with foreign countries, which he still maintains. To date, Obama has refused to prove he is qualified under the U.S. Constitution and his eligibility to run as President ofthe United States.

3. The facts are undisputed by Obama that his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a U.S. Citizen however, his father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a Citizen of Kenya. Obama's parents, according to divorce records, were married on or about February 2, 1961.

4. Obama claims he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii on August 4, 1961; however, has never given the name of the hospital he was born in; whereas Obama's grandmother on his father's side, half brother and half sister claim Obama was born in Kenya. Reports reflect Obama's mother went to Kenya during her pregnancy; however, she was prevented from boarding a flight from Kenya to Hawaii at her late stage of pregnancy, which apparently was a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight. Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) gave birth to Obama in Kenya, after which she flew to Hawaii and registered Obama's birth. There are records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii.

5. Upon investigation into the birth of Barack Hussein Obama in Honolulu, Hawaii, Obama's birth is reported as occurring at two (2) separate hospitals, Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital. Wikipedia English Version under the subject "Barack Obama" states Obama was born at Kapiolani Hospital. Wikipedia Italian Version under the subject "Queens Hospital" states Barack Obama was born in Queens Hospital.

1. There are further references circulating on the internet claiming examination of the hospital's records in Hawaii show no birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama), Obama's mother. However, there are records of a "registry of birth" for Obama, on or about August 8, 1961 in the public records office in Hawaii.

2. Wayne Madsen, Journalist with Online Journal was a contributing writer and published an article on June 9, 2008 stating the GOP sent a research team to Mombasa, Kenya and located a Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a Maternity Hospital, to his father, a Kenyan Citizen and his mother, a U.S. Citizen.

3. At the time ofObama's birth in 1961, Kenya was a British Colony.

4. There is a Canadian Birth Certificate posted on the Internet in the name of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.; however, the date of birth shows to be August 23, 1961.

5. Under the Independence Constitution of Kenya, Obama became a Kenyan citizen on December 12, 1963. Chicago-based Internet journalist, broadcaster and critic Andy Martin states Obama has never renounced his Kenyan citizenship. Andy Martin further states on Obama's Senate web site, Obama tap dances around his own dual nationality when discussing his father. Obama obviously knows, because his father told the Obama, that he (Obama) also held/holds Kenyan nationality.

6. If in fact Obama was born in Kenya, the laws on the books at the time of his birth stated if a child is born abroad and one parent was a U.S. Citizen, which would have been his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, Obama's mother would have had to live ten (10) years in the United States, five (5) of which were after the age of fourteen (14). At the time of Obama's birth, his mother was only eighteen (18) and therefore did not meet the residency requirements under the law to give her son (Obama) U.S. Citizenship. The laws in effect at the time of Obama's birth prevented U.S. Citizenship at birth of children born abroad to a U.S. Citizen parent and a non-citizen parent, if the citizen parent was under the age of nineteen (19) at the time of the birth of the child. Obama's mother did not qualify under the law on the books to register Obama as a "natural born" citizen. Section 301(a)(7) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of June 27,1952,66 Stat. 163, 235, 8 U.S.c. §1401(b), Matter of S-F-and G-, 2 I & N Dec. 182 (B.I.A.) approved (Att'y Gen. 1944). Obama would have only been Naturalized and a Naturalized citizen is not qualified and/or eligible to run for Office of the President. U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section Clause 4.

1. Furthermore, if Obama had been born in Kenya, his birth father Barack Obama, Sf. was a citizen of Kenya; therefore, Obama would have automatically become a citizen of Kenya.

2. In or about 1967, when Obama was approximately six (6) years old, his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia and moved to Indonesia with Obama. At this time, if Obama was Registered as a "natural born" citizen, which he did not qualify to be registered as, he would have lost his U.S. Citizenship when his mother married Lolo Soetoro and took up residency in Indonesia. The first requirement is that naturalization must be achieved through "application." Such type of naturalization occurs, for example, when a person acquires a foreign nationality by marriage to a national of that country. Nationality Act of 1940, Section 317(b). Additionally, there is rumor circulating on the Internet that his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, adopted Obama.

1. The Nationality Act of 1940 provided for the loss of citizenship when the person became naturalized upon the naturalization of his or her parent having custody of such person. Obama's mother expatriated her U.S. Citizenship when she married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia and relocated her and her son (Obama) to Indonesia.

2. Obama was enrolled by his parents in a public school, Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia. Plaintiff has received copies of the school registration where it clearly states Obama's name as Barry Soetoro and lists his citizenship as Indonesian, Obama's father is listed as Lolo Soetoro, Obama's date of birth and place of birth are listed as August 4,1961 in Honolulu and Obama's Religion is listed as Islam. This document was verified by television show Inside Edition, whose reporter, Matt Meagher took the actual footage of the school record.

3. In or about 1971, Obama's mother sent Obama back to Hawaii. Obama was ten (10) years of age upon his return to Hawaii.

4. Sometime after the return of Obama to Hawaii, Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham returned to Hawaii and divorced her husband, Lolo Soetoro. At the time of Divorce, Obama's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham could have regained her U.S. Citizenship. In order to regain her citizenship, Obama's mother would have had to take the oath of allegiance required. Such oath of allegiance may be taken abroad before a diplomatic or consular of the United States, or in the United States before the Attorney General or the judge or clerk of a Court. Such Oath of allegiance would have been entered in the records of the appropriate embassy, legation, consulate, court or the Attorney General and upon demand, a certified copy of the proceedings, including a copy of the oath administered, under the seal of the embassy, legation, consulate, court or the Attorney General shall be delivered. The certified copy shall be evidence of the facts stated therein before any court of record or judicial tribunal and in any department or agencyoftheGovernment oftheUnitedStates. 8 U.S.C.§1435.

31. As stated above, The Nationality Act of 1940 provided for the loss of citizenship when the person became naturalized upon the naturalization of his or her parent having custody of such person. Obama's mother expatriated her U.S. Citizenship when she married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia and relocated her and her son (Obama) to Indonesia.

Obama's mother failed to take the oath in order to regam her U.S. Citizenship. Therefore, Obama would not have been able to regain his U.S. Citizenship until he turned eighteen (18) years after he took the oath of allegiance before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States, or in the U.S. before the Attorney General or the judge or clerk of court. Plaintiff is informed, believes and thereon alleges Obama failed to regain his citizenship by taking the oath of allegiance. Since the oath of allegiance would have been entered in the records of the appropriate embassy, legation, consulate, court or the Attorney General, if Plaintiff is incorrect, then Obama should be able to produce in Court a certified copy of the proceedings, including a copy of the oath administered.
Investigation further showed in 1981, Obama traveled to Pakistan usmg his Indonesian passport. At the time of travels to Indonesia, Obama was twenty (20) years old. He was well aware he maintained his Indonesia citizenship, and failed to regain his United States citizenship. Indonesia does not allow dual citizenship. Had Obama regained his United States citizenship, he would have been traveling on a United States Passport.

Obama and his Campaign office have been asked Obama's Certificate of Birth in order to prove he is a "natural born" citizen as required by the U.S. Constitution.

1. After many attempts of the public to obtain Obama's Certificate of Birth, a Hawaiian Certficate of Live Birth (COLB) was placed on Obama's campaign website. However, as posted all over the internet, three (3) independent Document Forensic Experts performed extensive Forensic testing on the Certificate of Live Birth posted on Obama's campaign website. Thc Forensic Expert findings were the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was in a forgery. It was further discovered that this original Cerificate of Live Birth which had been altered and forged was issued to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, born in 1970. Maya Kasandra Soetoro is Obama's half sister who was born in Indonesia and her birth was later registered in Hawaii. The altered and forged COLB is still on Obama's website located at
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

2. Further investigation led to Obama's State Bar Registration and Public Disciplinary Record. On the Illinois State Bar Registration and Public Disciplinary Record it specifically asks for "Full former name(s). Obama put "None," when in fact he went by the name Barry Soetoro, and Barry Obama. It is further believed Obama has used the name Barry Dunham. Obama lied on the State government form that he signed under the penalty of perjury.

3. Even if Obama maintained his United States Citizenship, which he failed to do, he also carries citizenships in Kenya and Indonesia. Obama has divided loyalties with foreign countries. Thus, Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States. United States Constitution, Article II, Section 1.

1. All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing because the Obama cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process and the supporters of their citizen choice for the nomination.

2. Voters donated money, goods and services to select a nominee, and were defrauded by Obama's obfuscations. Obama clearly shows consciousness of guilt by his actions by posting a forged birth certificate on his website, and by and the falsifications he told to cover his loss of citizenship.

3. Obama proclaims himself a Constitutional scholar and lecturer, but did not learn he had no eligibility to become President except by means of obfuscations and deceptions.

4. The injunctive relief must be granted because failing to do so, this inaction defrauds everyone who voted in the Democratic Primary for a nominee that is a fair representation of the voters. Failure to grant injunctive relief would allow a corrupted, fraudulent nomination process to continue.

5. It not only allows, but promotes an overwhelming degree of disrespect and creates such a lack of confidence in voters of the primary process itself, so that it would cement a prevailing belief that no potential candidate has to obey the laws of this country, respect our election process, follow the Constitution, or even suffer any consequence for lying and defrauding voters to get onto the ballot when they have no chance of serving if they fraudulently manage to get elected.

6. If declaratory and injunctive relief is not given, it would be extremely unfair to the country for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question as to the nominee's eligibility to serve if elected.

7. As stated above, Plaintiff as well as Democratic American Citizens will suffer Irreparable Harm if Declaratory and Injunctive relief is not granted. Plaintiff does not have any other way of redress regarding these very significant and important issues.

8. The DNC has failed Plaintiff and the Democratic American Citizens by their failure to perform due diligence and inquire into Obama's eligibility to run for Office of the President.

COUNT ONE

VIOLATION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, ARTICLE II, SECTION I

1. Plaintiff hereby incorporates Paragraphs 1 through 45 as if fully set forth herein.

1. The United States Constitution, Article II, Section I, Clause 4, Qualifications, Office of President, states: "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

2. Obama's failure to maintain his United States Citizenship makes him ineligible to run for Office ofthe President.

3. Obama, if born in Kenya would have made him a citizen of Kenya. Furthennore, because of the 1940 Naturalization Act, June 1952, Obama's mother would have had to be nineteen (19) in order for Obama to be a "natural born" United States citizenship upon registration of his birth. Obama's mother was only eighteen (18) when she birthed Obama and therefore was not old enough to meet the residency requirements under our laws at the time of Obama's birth and be able to register her son's birth as a "natural born" citizen.

4. Even if Obama would have been able to be registered as a "natural born" citizen in Hawaii, he lost his citizenship in the United States when his mother married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia and then took Obama to Indonesia and set up residency with her new husband.

5. Obama's mother could have regained her and Obama's United States Citizenship status when she divorced her husband, Lolo Soetoro and moved back to Hawaii. However, in order to regain her citizenship in the United States she would have had to take the oath of allegiance, which would have been recorded. Obama's mother never did take the oath of allegiance to regain her citizenship In the United States.

6. Moreover, Obama could have regained his citizenship in the United States when he turned eighteen (18), again by taking the oath ofallegiance that would have been recorded. However, Obama failed to do so.

7. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is supposed to represent and protect the interests of working Americans, which includes securing a Democratic
Nominee on the Presidential Election ballot who represents the Democratic vision and who is qualified and eligible to run for Office of the President under the qualifications of the United States Constitution. The DNC has failed to inquire into Obama's eligibility status.

54. For the above aforementioned reasons, Obama needs to immediately supply a certified copy of his oath of allegiance proving he regained his United States Citizenship. In addition, Obama needs to furnish a certified copy of his Certificate of Live Birth to further prove he was born in Hawaii as he claims. However, if Obama is unable to supply a certified record of his oath of allegiance, he needs to immediately step down and withdrawal his candidacy for President.

WHEREFORE, Plaintiff respectfully prays that this Court:

A. Declare that Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham is ineligible to run for United States Office ofthe President under the United States Constitution, Article II, Section I;

B. Preliminary and permanently enjoin Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham from running for United States Office of the President;

C. Preliminary and permanently enjoin Defendant, The Democratic Committee from nominating Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham as the Democratic Nominee;

D. Award Plaintiff such costs and fees pursuant to 42 U.S.c. § 1988 and other applicable by law; and

E. Grant Plaintiff such other and further relief as the Court deems just and proper.

COUNT TWO

DUAL CITIZENSHIP

1. Plaintiff hereby incorporates Paragraphs 1 through 54 as if fully set forth herein.

2. From the beginning of our Constitution, our forefathers inferred a person running for Office of the President could not have divided loyalties. This was a result of people coming from England to the United States who owed loyalties to both England and the United States. Our forefather's did not want a person with dual loyalties to be able to secure the position as President of the United States.

3. This inference is taken from Article II, Section I, which plainly states qualifications for Office of the President must be a "natural born" citizen.

4. The United States President cannot run our Country and have responsibilities and obligations owed to other countries.

5. Obama is not eligible to run for Office of the United States President as his mother failed to regain her citizenship after her divorce to Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia, when Obama was a minor and Obama himself failed to regain his
United States Citizenship when he turned eighteen (18). Therefore, Obama is not a "natural born" citizen.

1. Furthermore, Obama is well aware he is not a United States Citizen and does not qualify as a "natural born" citizen. Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, at which time he was twenty (20) years old and used his Indonesian Passport, not a United States Passport.

2. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is supposed to represent and protect the interests of working Americans, which includes securing a Democratic Nominee on the Presidential Election ballot who represents the Democratic vision and who is qualified and eligible to run for Office of the President under the qualifications of the United States Constitution. The DNC has failed to inquire into Obama's eligibility status.

3. For the above aforementioned reasons, Obama needs to immediately step down and withdrawal his candidacy for Presidency.

WHEREFORE, PlaintitfrespectfuIly prays that this Court:
A. Declare that Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham is ineligible to run for United States Office ofthe President under the United States Constitution, Article II, Section I;
B. Preliminary and permanently enjoin Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham from running for United States Office of the President;

C. Preliminary and permanently enjoin Defendant, The Democratic Committee from nominating Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham as the Democratic Nominee;

D. Award Plaintiff such costs and fees pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1988 and other applicable by law; and

E. Grant Plaintiff such other and further relief as the Court deems just and proper.

COUNT THREE

FRAUD

1. Plaintiff hereby incorporates Paragraphs 1 through 62 as if fully set forth herein.

2. Obama committed Fraud upon Plaintiff and the American Citizens by running for President claiming to be eligible knowing he was not eligible as a result of his failure to regain his United States Citizenship and by maintaining multi citizenships with Kenya and Indonesia.

3. Obama further committed Fraud upon Plaintiff and the American people by falsifying infonnation on his Illinois State Bar Registration and Public Disciplinary Record. Obama stated on his Application to the State Bar of Illinois, as proven by the Illinois State Bar Registration and Disciplinary Record, stating he never used any other names. Obama signed his application/registration for the Illinois State Bar under the penalty of perjury knowing the information to be false. The fact of the matter is Obama used the name Barry Soetoro in Indonesia and was registered as a citizen of Indonesia on his school records. Obama further used the name Barry Obama and it is further believed Obama used the name Barack and/or Barry Dunham.

1. Obama attempted to defraud Plaintiff and the American people by allowing an altered and forged Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) to be placed on his campaign website. Obama was well aware the Government issued COLB was altered and forged as the original document was in the name of Maya Kasandra Soetoro born in 1970. Maya Kassandra Soetoro Obama's half sister who was born in Indonesia and her birth was later registered in Hawaii. The altered and forged COLB IS still on Obama's website located at 11 ttV:/1my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

2. Obama further attempted to defraud Plaintiff and the American People by claiming to be a United States Citizen, knowing this information to be false. Obama is well aware when his mother married Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia and took up residency in Indonesia with Obama, they both naturalized in Indonesia expatriating their United States Citizenship. Obama's mother failed to regain her citizenship after her divorce to Lolo Soetoro, when Obama was a minor and Obama himself failed to regain his United States Citizenship by taking the oath of allegiance, which is recorded when he turned eighteen (18) years.

3. Furthennore, Obama is well aware he is not a United States Citizen and does not qualify as a "natural born" citizen. Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981, at which time he was twenty (20) years old and used his Indonesian Passport, not a United States passport.

4. Moreover, as stated above, Obama was registered in School in Jakarta, Indonesia as Barry Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia, born in 1961 in Hawaii and his religion was registered as Islam.

5. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) is supposed to represent and protect the interests of working Americans, which includes securing a Democratic Nominee on the Presidential Election ballot who represents the Democratic vision and who is qualified and eligible to run for Office of the President under the qualifications of the United States Constitution. The DNC has failed to inquire into Obama's eligibility status.

6. For the above aforementioned reasons, Obama needs to immediately step down and withdrawal his candidacy for Presidency.

WHEREFORE, Plaintiff respectfully prays that this Court:
A. Declare that Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham is ineligible to run for United States Office of the President under the United States Constitution, Article II, Section I;
B. Preliminary and pennanently enjoin Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k/a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k/a Barack Dunham from running for United States Office of the President;

C. Preliminary and pelmanently enjoin Defendant, The Democratic Committee from nominating Defendant Barack Hussein Obama, a/k!a Barry Obama, a/k/a Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Soetoro, a/k/a Barry Dunham, a/k!a Barack Dunham as the Democratic Nominee;

D. Award Plaintiff such costs and fees pursuant to 42 U.S.C. § 1988 and other applicable by law; and

E. Grant Plaintiff such other and further relief as the Court deems just and proper.

Respectfully submitted,

Attorney in Pro Se 555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12 Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531 Identification No. 09867
(610) 825-3134

VERIFICATION

I, PHILIP J. BERG, hereby state that I am the Plaintiff in this action and verify that the statements made in the foregoing Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief are true and correct to the best of my knowledge, information and belief. The undersigned understands that the statements therein are made subject to the penalties of 18 Pa. C.S. Section 4904 relating to unsworn falsification to authorities.
 
Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

oh boy. If this turns out to be the truth could HDRkid be right? Hillary would then be in the running again??
 
Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

oh boy. If this turns out to be the truth could HDRkid be right? Hillary would then be in the running again??
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Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

recall,

Nah. That's not a civil war. Try EGP, ORPA and PGT in your own back yard. Now that's a civil war.
 
Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

Buuuut....It's not quite as comfortable for you when someone takes a hack at your country as opposed to taking a swing at the US, is it?
 
Re: Obama named Democrats\' candidate

Buuuut....It's not quite as comfortable for you when someone takes a hack at your country as opposed to taking a swing at the US, is it?

what about:
It's not quite as comfortable for you when someone takes a swing at your country as opposed to taking a hack at the US, is it?

LOL

is just the fight for the natural resources around the globe...between Russia and "Corporate Amerika"

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Re:John Titor\'s Prediction was: Obama named

Then:
Quoted:
Last night, during the Coast to Coast A.M. radio broadcast with host, George Noory, a caller asked the first hours guest, Oliver Williams, about our current world timeline.

Oliver Williams is the owner/operator of the website <www.johntitor.com>.

For those unfamiliar with the story of John Titor the time traveler, a visit to this site will give you an overview of some of the possible events coming up in our own future.

Anyways, the caller asked Oliver what he thought of the possibility that since there now appeared to be no chance that Hillary Clinton was going to be a presidential candidate, that the particular hint that John Titor had made, that a woman may become president, might not be part of our world timeline any longer.

The caller mentioned that the Olympics in China had taken place after all, after John Titor had stated there wouldn’t be any Olympics held in 2008, and that discrepency combined with Obama getting the nomination, pointed to our world timeline having been changed. He stated his hope that the Obama campaign might herald us into a new age of peace and prosperity and thereby avoid the civil war that John Titor had described as being an unavoidable event of our near future.

Oliver then interrupted the caller and reminded him that there was still the very real possibility that John McCain might select a woman as his running mate and being just a “heart beat away” from the presidency, John Titor’s prediction of a woman becoming President could still be a very real possibility.

The caller then argued that McCain would most likely pick Tim Palenty as his running mate.

Today, it’s been announced that McCain has indeed picked a woman, Sarah Palin, as his running mate.

If McCain wins the race for the White House, one stroke or heart attack may indeed leave us with a woman as President just as John Titor had mentioned about our world’s future timeline.

I find that very interesting, even if it does lend more support for the potential of an upcoming civil-war between the rural areas and cities of these United States.

from:
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Re:John Titor\'s Prediction was: Obama named

Yeah, I think it is interesting. I never thought Mccain would pick a woman as his running mate.
Now things are really getting interesting.
 
Re:John Titor\'s Prediction was: Obama named

Yeah, I think it is interesting. I never thought Mccain would pick a woman as his running mate. Now things are really getting interesting.

I wonder what Hilliary thinks?
 
Re:John Titor\'s Prediction was: Obama named

I bet she is a LITTLE divided on the subject--- all that matters with her is how much EGO is coming into play.
 
Re:John Titor\'s Prediction was: Obama named

I know what happened. McCain was breifed on the John Titor story and decided he was taking no chances and wanted to win so bad he knew he had to pick a woman to have a better chance of winning.
He knew he couldn't pick Hillary so the only woman he could think of is one he had met only one time and then said "she will do." lol
 
Re:John Titor\'s Prediction was: Obama named

it just the ripples of time:
reflections goes
reflections backs...

The timeline fixed itself...

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Re:John Titor\'s Prediction was: Obama named

Thats cool with me Pam Because she is HOT.


After that speech last night, I was a little shaken.

This election has had some really good twists in it ---even I have to admit.

When this whole Titor story was throw in the mix(and it occured to me).

It has actually kept me interested.

Any other time I would have been like going on with my day not even caring and time would have just passed.

Could you describe that as an event?(I am actually being serious here)
 
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