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Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

Hi Timeprof:
You said
"I am waiting for the day when all electronics go haywire and shuts down."
That dark day is coming sooner than you think. Going astral I saw that cities were dark and without power before WWIII, not sure as to why.

Why is evil foolish? Well, the good book says "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" (Prov. 1:7)
Needless to say, evil men do not fear God.

Hi Reactor:
The russians claim they have psychic assassins that can kill people with a thought. I wonder why they do not use use it to kill exspy defectors?

Hi Recall:
Is your avatar from the anime "Magic Knight Rayearth"?

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There's a lot less consumption of gasoline right now because people are out of work, so they don't drive to work.

Yesterday I paid $3.63/gallon for gasoline, the price is going up and down like a ping pong ball.:)
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

About the election, Clinton won in Indiana, but lost in NC, but why is this important? Because Indiana is next to Illinois, East Chicago is in Indiana. Clinto beat Obama on his home turf and although he has over 90% of the black vote, Clinton has a huge advantage in women votes. Obama is the most liberal senator their is - he cannot win in nov, so the dems have a choice, include Michigan and Florida giving Clinton the lead, or allowing the US to start an iranian invasion under McCain.

This discussion a moot, isn't it? You've already firmly and steadfastly stated that Hillary will get the nomination.

BTW: If the MIchigan delegates are seated Hillary won't win the nomination. Michigan has 157 delegates. Hillary received 55% of the bote and would pick up 86 seats. 71 delegates would be Uncommitted. "Uncommitted" received 44% of the vote because Obama didn't run in MIchigan.

In Florida Hillary would pick up 105 seats, Obama would pick up 70 and Edwards & Kucinich would pick up 36.

Hillary could potentially pick up a net 86 to 100 seats which still leaves her behind Obama by 60-75 seats. She's currently 159 seats behind. And these numbers assume that Edwards and Kucinich pleadge their delegates to Hillary. If they don't then seating both states is a push. She remains almost 150 seats behind.

If the Democratic Party wants a real chance to win in November then they should nominate Hillary. It's unlikely that the Rule 9 delegates will give it to her. On the other hand that's why they have the superdels. They don't trust their rank and file members to have the ability to choose the "right" candidate.

I don't want to see Denver, Chicago and a few other big cities burn this summer but if they do switch horses to Hillary that is what will happen. Getting a sleeper Marxist out of the race by trading for an overt Marxist isn't much of a choice. But I'm having fun watching it so far.
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

Hi Timeprof:
You said
"I am waiting for the day when all electronics go haywire and shuts down."
That dark day is coming sooner than you think. Going astral I saw that cities were dark and without power before WWIII, not sure as to why.


Its because of a interference which noone expected to occur. People can astral, RV, predict and etc, but they will never see this coming. Destiny wont allow those who are 'gifted' to see this.

Consider it as a grand surprise! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Destiny wont allow those who are 'gifted' to see this

Why not? Not that I believe that people can successfully RV, "astral" (whatever that is), etc. but why is Destiny being such a lop over this? She's such a nice girl otherwise.

And why is Destiny in control here at all? Who appointed her Exchequer of All Knowledge anyway? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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Well...

if you must know. There is a 'universal law' regarding a species with specific intelligence not to go 'overboard'.

There are limitations of how we progress spiritually and technologically. I call it 'Destiny' in this point of view.


Rome wasnt built in a day
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

This discussion a moot, isn't it? You've already firmly and steadfastly stated that Hillary will get the nomination.

Why shouldn't she get the nomination? Shes got 8 years experiance. She ran the country un-offically for 8 years and cleaned up after Bill when he screwed up. Usually that is how it is any way. The women do all the work but the men get all the credit. And, things were a lot better when she was in office than they are now. Also, they ran my state for many many years. The people in Arkansas voted for Bill as president to get him out of the state. We still can't figure out why the rest of the country voted for him. Reactor
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

Ok I attempted to read this whole thread before I wrote, but I got bored somewhere in 2007 and decided to ask HDRKid a question.

Back in '07 you said that Hilldog would be victorious, and the next two most likely to candidates for presidency were Obama and Giuliani. In fact you said in one of your viewings that Giuliani won, and Obama won in two of them, and Hillary won in 27 of your viewings.

Wheres McCain? Rudy didn't come anywhere close to being nominated. He got less electoral votes than Ron Paul. Why was he so prominent in your RVs?
 
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Why shouldn't she get the nomination?

1) She is power hungry.
2) She is terribly self-centered, as is evidenced by her lack of concern for the DEM party and what her continued actions are doing to it.
3) She is NOT very experienced, and her attempt in the 90s to reform health care showed just how poor she is at the "coersion" side of politics and revealed that she tends to think like an elitist bully.

I could go on, but that is enough to answer your question as to why she does not deserve her party's nomination.

She ran the country un-offically for 8 years and cleaned up after Bill when he screwed up.

You really believe that? What evidence do you have for that? How can you be so sure that Bill's "screw-ups" (and I am NOT talking Lewinksky, I am talking his Prez policies) were not at the behest of Hillary herself?

Usually that is how it is any way. The women do all the work but the men get all the credit.

Perhaps in your household. Is this why you sit at the computer all day, without a real job, and instead let your wife be the bread-winner? In my business I see women who do not want to work a full 40 hour week... and I also see PLENTY of women whose focus is on having a baby, and once they pop one out they are "done with the job hobby distraction."

And, things were a lot better when she was in office than they are now.

Again, please show me evidence that SHE was "in office." In my opinion you have warped the truth of history to fit your belief that she should be elected.

RMT
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

1) She is power hungry.
2) She is terribly self-centered, as is evidenced by her lack of concern for the DEM party and what her continued actions are doing to it.
3) She is NOT very experienced, and her attempt in the 90s to reform health care showed just how poor she is at the "coersion" side of politics and revealed that she tends to think like an elitist bully.

I think a lot of this can be applied to the other candidates as well.

You really believe that? What evidence do you have for that? How can you be so sure that Bill's "screw-ups" (and I am NOT talking Lewinksky, I am talking his Prez policies) were not at the behest of Hillary herself?

Where would Bill get the time for his affairs had she not been doing the work? Lewinksky was not the only one. And you forget Bill was in Arkanasas 12 years before he ever made it to Washington. He was here long enough for the public to get to know him. He is a over grown boy with a bad temper and strong sexual urges. He is a good public speaker and is good with people that is why he did good in politics. Hilliary advised him and coached him and influenced him in his decisions because she is a strong women and Bill is a weak man. They together were a team in politics not just husband and wife as you seem to think. They had a long term plan to their future in politics which they are trying fulfill now.

Perhaps in your household. Is this why you sit at the computer all day, without a real job, and instead let your wife be the bread-winner? In my business I see women who do not want to work a full 40 hour week... and I also see PLENTY of women whose focus is on having a baby, and once they pop one out they are "done with the job hobby distraction

You don,t know where my money comes from. And, my wife works part time for minimum wage because she wants to not because she has too. And, I do make more than she does she is not the bread winner in the family. Her part-time income pays for our kids private school. The other half of the private school tution comes from her working at the private school our kids attend. I pay all the bills. Most of my work on my project has not been at home. I take it with me on a laptop and work on it in my spare time. What I have done at home has been in the way of Internet research of which I have to download the web sights to my hard drive because I don,t have time to read it and transfer it to my laptop and read it later when I can. I try to have some type of hobby or something besides work and sleep. Unlike you I don,t get 3 day weekends to be lazy and cook chicken wings.

Again, please show me evidence that SHE was "in office." In my opinion you have warped the truth of history to fit your belief that she should be elected.
The national deficit was better, foreign relations was better, The economy was better, Bush owns a big chunk of the oil business that is profiting off the gas prices now. He is getting rich off America and using his office to make his private business better. Need I go on. For president we have one candidate on the far right, one candidate on the far left, in the middle is Hilliary. As it stands now I can,t help but look at all the people losing their homes and businesses now that voted for Bush. I feel sorry for the people that voted for him that have lost their sons and daughters. When is this country going to learn? I voted for Gore. Reactor
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

"The national deficit was better, foreign relations was better, The economy was better, Bush owns a big chunk of the oil business that is profiting off the gas prices now. He is getting rich off America and using his office to make his private business better. Need I go on."


Amen.

if anyone says that times now are better than when clinton was president, they are rich. when clinton was president, i had no worries, no real problems of any kind. you can make an argument that the president had nothing to do with that, but i would disagree.
 
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Perhaps in your household. Is this why you sit at the computer all day, without a real job, and instead let your wife be the bread-winner?

RMT - One more thing. I think you resort to this kind of talk because you have nothing real to say. I,ve worked with engineers before. And, I have watched them get fired when they could not do anything. One thing I have learned about engineers is take away their computers and take away their calculators and take away their technicians and the mechanics that fix their mistakes and they are worthless. Can,t do anything. And, on teaching it takes the right social skills to do that job but other than that the lesson plans are already given in the books. All the teacher has to do is follow the lesson plans. How much of yourself do you really give in your work? How much of the thinking do you do for yourself? I could make arguments as to why you teach but I won,t go there. I just wanted to add this. Thanks, Reactor.
 
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Why shouldn't she get the nomination? Shes got 8 years experiance. She ran the country un-offically for 8 years and cleaned...snip

Reactor,

Whether or not Hillary is qualified wasn't the point.

For the past few years The Kid has named Gore and then Kerry as the next President (2008) then early last year decided that the debunkers would stop laughing because it was definitely Hillary that would get the nomination.

Will Hillary get it? Very unlikely but miracles do happen.

The point is that when she doesn't I'm waiting to see the next permutation of the delusion. I'm assuming that the Kid will say, "See! I called it correct from the beginning. Obama got the nod. Another correct prediction for me. And the debunkers were laughing at me. Boy, howdy, did I show them!"

I think that the only person in the Democratic Party that she didn't predict is Obama. It might be the "black thing" - the Coke Blaq thing, that is. Another "correct prediction" that she never made - but took credit for anyway.
 
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You asked a question why Hillary does not deserve the nomination. I gave you answers. And whether you accept my answer or not, the simple fact is that a majority of the Democrats (not to mention the American people as a whole) agree with my assessment. Hillary has been losing superdelegates from her camp. Has Obama has ANY defectors at all?

The economy was better,

It is clear that you are letting your political opinions impact what facts you accept, and which ones you conveniently forget. The fact is, the economy was already in trouble in 2000 before Bush won over Gore. And there have been plenty of analytic studies that explained "the Clinton expansion" and why it ended when it did. The reality is that had little, if anything, to do with Clinton and his policies. The key was the exorbitant spending that businesses committed to "fixing the Y2K problem." Did you ever put 2 and 2 together and realize that employment for programmers (a large part of employment in the tech sector) began to contract at the same time that the economy went downhill? If you did, you would realize the correlation. The reason the economy lost steam right AFTER the Y2K non-event was because the perceived "need to spend oodles of money" on programmers was now over. The layoffs ensued in VERY short order. And this only added to the "dot com bust" which was already in full force.

So again, the reality is that Clinton handed Bush an economy that was already in down cycle. There are no facts that you could possibly use to refute this. And then, to make matters worse, Bush was then handed the tragedy of 9/11 to deal with. With all the gloom and doomers taking that opportunity to predict that 9/11 would be the death nail to our economy (those idiots will use whatever event they can to try and justify their gloom and doom), most people were betting against the US economy. But guess what? It EXPANDED... and by quite a bit!!! If you want more "inconvenient facts" that refute your conclusion, please take a look at the 3 major stock indices historical performance from 2002 through 2007. You will notice nothing but "economic expansion". And it all happened under Bush. If you are one of those people who actually believe a single person (the President) has that much influence over the economy, this data would have to say you are wrong and that Bush did good things for the economy. Myself, I know that a President is not the sole factor, nor even the primary factor that makes an economy "good" or "bad".

If I wanted to use the politics of division (which you seem to subscribe to) as a means to further prove you wrong, I would simply ask you the following question:

When did the Democrats take control over Congress and relative to that time, when did the economy begin to get into trouble?

The facts that would answer this question could be interpreted to "prove" that the economy was doing fine (looking only at the numbers) right up until the time the DEMS took control over Congress (and let us not forget it is the Congress that passes spending budgets...the Pres just approves or disproves them). So a politically-motivated person could easily make the case that "it was the DEMS taking over Congress that lead to our current economic problems." How would you go about defending or refuting that??? Hmmmmm?

Hillary will not win because the American people want "change" (a relative term). Not only are they sick of Bush, but they are equally sick of Clinton (again, speaking for the majority). It seems abundantly clear that the American people do NOT want "Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton...."

But you believe whatever you want. I am not here to change your mind. But I did answer your question.

RMT
 
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if anyone says that times now are better than when clinton was president, they are rich. when clinton was president, i had no worries, no real problems of any kind. you can make an argument that the president had nothing to do with that, but i would disagree.

ruthless,

I am sorry you believe this. For with these statements you make it clear that you have "bought into" the politics of division that BOTH major parties are always wishing to "sell" to their constituents. Your statement above seems to imply that the quality of your life had almost NOTHING to do with you, your actions, and your situations, and EVERYTHING to do with who the Pres was and what he did. This would tell me you are a Democrat-leaning politico, rather than a Republican-leaning one. For the large majority of people who espouse conservative views are of the understanding that it is what YOU DO FOR YOURSELF that determines your fate (like going to school, no matter what)...and only people who look upon or rely upon the government to "make their lives better" would feel like constant victims. And when you look at the overriding rhetoric of the Democratic Party, it is all about victimization... but so little of their rhetoric is about taking prudent action to take care of their own business. Instead, it is about sticking their hands in the pockets of all American taxpayers and "redistributing wealth". That is the only "solution" they can ever seem to come up with. And I find that sad, and ineffective.

RMT
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

For the past few years The Kid has named Gore and then Kerry as the next President (2008) then early last year decided that the debunkers would stop laughing because it was definitely Hillary that would get the nomination.

Will Hillary get it? Very unlikely but miracles do happen.

The point is that when she doesn't I'm waiting to see the next permutation of the delusion. I'm assuming that the Kid will say, "See! I called it correct from the beginning. Obama got the nod. Another correct prediction for me. And the debunkers were laughing at me. Boy, howdy, did I show them!"

Exactly, Darby. And I, for one, wish to keep this thread focused on this topic....especially as the DEM nomination race comes to its close. It seems pretty clear from today's Superdel commitments that Hillary is just about well done....stick a fork in her. And that means hdrkid was wrong. Chalk up another WRONG "prediction" by the kid. But just as Darby points out, that will not stop the Kid from rewriting his/her own history. Watch for just such actions, coming to a thread near you!
The Kid will not admit he/she was wrong...but instead come up with some excuse (the popular one being to invoke the Many World theorem and claim that we must be on one of those "other" timelines where Hilary did not win). And this is why I am also pressing the Kid on his/her "prediction" gas would not rise above $4/gal this year. I am 10 cents away from paying $4/gal for regular gas here in Huntington Beach, CA.

RMT
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

"I am sorry you believe this. For with these statements you make it clear that you have "bought into" the politics of division that BOTH major parties are always wishing to "sell" to their constituents. Your statement above seems to imply that the quality of your life had almost NOTHING to do with you, your actions, and your situations, and EVERYTHING to do with who the Pres was and what he did. This would tell me you are a Democrat-leaning politico, rather than a Republican-leaning one. For the large majority of people who espouse conservative views are of the understanding that it is what YOU DO FOR YOURSELF that determines your fate (like going to school, no matter what)...and only people who look upon or rely upon the government to "make their lives better" would feel like constant victims. And when you look at the overriding rhetoric of the Democratic Party, it is all about victimization... but so little of their rhetoric is about taking prudent action to take care of their own business. Instead, it is about sticking their hands in the pockets of all American taxpayers and "redistributing wealth". That is the only "solution" they can ever seem to come up with. And I find that sad, and ineffective."

i find this amusing. i am not a democrat, nor a republican, nor anything. i didnt know a thing about politics until about 2 years ago.

i also find it very amusing that you assume that since i have no job and no money, that is my motives for feeling this way. i believe i read an article once about republicans using the tactic of smearing an opponents credibility.

i will do some assuming too. i assume by your comments that you are a capitalist. you are about big buisness, making the economy grow, all that riff-raff. and you think that is going to lead the world to a better future. you tell people like me, "i could afford to pay everyone on your blocks bills for 50 years, but i dont have to. i earned it and you dont deserve it!" thats fine. i understand your point of view. however, i have my own view of what i shall do with mine.

i belive in equality.

shocker eh? but theres a flipside to it too. if i want to be, i can be rich. money does not make my world go round and i find it a shame that some peoples lives revolve around it. but if i do decide to "get my fair share," i will not be stingy with it, and i will try to help those i can. yes it does make a difference, maybe not to you though.
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

Reactor,

Whether or not Hillary is qualified wasn't the point.

For the past few years The Kid has named Gore and then Kerry as the next President (2008) then early last year decided that the debunkers would stop laughing because it was definitely Hillary that would get the nomination.

Will Hillary get it? Very unlikely but miracles do happen.

The point is that when she doesn't I'm waiting to see the next permutation of the delusion. I'm assuming that the Kid will say, "See! I called it correct from the beginning. Obama got the nod. Another correct prediction for me. And the debunkers were laughing at me. Boy, howdy, did I show them!"

I think that the only person in the Democratic Party that she didn't predict is Obama. It might be the "black thing" - the Coke Blaq thing, that is. Another "correct prediction" that she never made - but took credit for anyw


Darby, thanks for bringing me up todate. Im still trying to catch up with this thread too. Reactor
 
Re: They always have a scapegoat. was: Ride of...

Yes you answered it and I appreciate it. Im down on Bush and the economy because I think the war in Iraq has greatly helped drag it down and increased the price of gas which increased prices to the point of putting the USA into a recessian. And if we had someone else in office I really wonder if we would be where we are now. Normally the president does not have that much control on the health of the economy but when it comes to war that changes a lot of things. Thank you for answering my question. Reactor
 
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money does not make my world

Ruthless:

Some of the poorest people in the world are the happiest and some of the richest people in the world are the most miserable. I have found that people who have goals to work for in life are better off than those that have everything but have nothing left to achieve. It seems the need to work for something means something whether your rich or poor. Keep going. Reactor
 
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