Re: Hillary Rodham Clinton
I am not getting your correlation. Essentially it sounds like you are saying that A) Hilary forgave her cheating husband so B) He was a powerful man so C = She must be using him to gain her own power.
This is fallacious. Especially since this is the first time we've had a woman running for President, so there is nothing to compare her to, and frankly, if it wasn't her forgiving her cheating husband, you'd find something else about her to say that women shouldn't vote for her because she's a woman because she's another kind of a, b or c. If you don't like the canidate, no matter what she does or doesn't do, you won't like her. I still feel that her forgiving Bill is no different than the millions of other women who forgive powerful or completely loser men every single day. Hilary's moral choices and personal choices for her marriage aren't going to matter a hill of beans to any women. I disagree with you that she is a "role" model for marriage. For politics, yes, and that's where the scrupulous eyes should be. Not her marital relations. If anything, many women would see her as a woman who was cheated on, just like them-yet could become the President of the United States. To devalue that by saying she was only able to because her husband was the President....well that's the typical mentality of many people. That women can't succeed on their own, they must have to sleep their way to the top.
Also, I would like to add this: Many "powerful" women have forgiven cheating husbands/boyfriends. Halle Berry, considered one of the world's most beautiful women, Elizabeth Hurley, etc. Since when is it to be disrespected to be forgiven? Isn't that the essence of love? Why do you think or seem to have the perception that forgiving an infidelity is weak, disrespectful, of not sound character? Seems to me.....forgiveness takes an incredible amount of strength and fortitude-and love.
Have you not done something in your life to hurt another? A friend, family member, co-worker? Whether an outright betrayal or a thoughtless remark-I don't think any of us would have one friend, lover or family member left if it weren't for forgiveness. Therefore, I don't believe its up for anyone to judge or condemn someone for an act that is typically loving-and healing for the one hurt. You don't forgive people for them, you do it for you-and, no one ever said that forgiveness equals condoning.
I find it disturbing that you seem to think that the MAJORITY of women or Americans would find forgiveness a negative thing. Frankly, we live in a culture that likes to see people fall-and to give them second chances and forgiveness when they truly seem sorry and wish to change. In the political arena, nowhere was this more evident with Marion Barry, caught on video smoking crack-and was re-elected. Yeah, see, I'd rather have a woman who stayed married to an unfaithful husband in politics than a crackhead. So you don't like Hilary, and that's fine. But its a weak argument to me that because she forgave Bill, she's a poor role model. So again, I suppose we can agree to disagree on this.
I am not getting your correlation. Essentially it sounds like you are saying that A) Hilary forgave her cheating husband so B) He was a powerful man so C = She must be using him to gain her own power.
This is fallacious. Especially since this is the first time we've had a woman running for President, so there is nothing to compare her to, and frankly, if it wasn't her forgiving her cheating husband, you'd find something else about her to say that women shouldn't vote for her because she's a woman because she's another kind of a, b or c. If you don't like the canidate, no matter what she does or doesn't do, you won't like her. I still feel that her forgiving Bill is no different than the millions of other women who forgive powerful or completely loser men every single day. Hilary's moral choices and personal choices for her marriage aren't going to matter a hill of beans to any women. I disagree with you that she is a "role" model for marriage. For politics, yes, and that's where the scrupulous eyes should be. Not her marital relations. If anything, many women would see her as a woman who was cheated on, just like them-yet could become the President of the United States. To devalue that by saying she was only able to because her husband was the President....well that's the typical mentality of many people. That women can't succeed on their own, they must have to sleep their way to the top.
Also, I would like to add this: Many "powerful" women have forgiven cheating husbands/boyfriends. Halle Berry, considered one of the world's most beautiful women, Elizabeth Hurley, etc. Since when is it to be disrespected to be forgiven? Isn't that the essence of love? Why do you think or seem to have the perception that forgiving an infidelity is weak, disrespectful, of not sound character? Seems to me.....forgiveness takes an incredible amount of strength and fortitude-and love.
Have you not done something in your life to hurt another? A friend, family member, co-worker? Whether an outright betrayal or a thoughtless remark-I don't think any of us would have one friend, lover or family member left if it weren't for forgiveness. Therefore, I don't believe its up for anyone to judge or condemn someone for an act that is typically loving-and healing for the one hurt. You don't forgive people for them, you do it for you-and, no one ever said that forgiveness equals condoning.
I find it disturbing that you seem to think that the MAJORITY of women or Americans would find forgiveness a negative thing. Frankly, we live in a culture that likes to see people fall-and to give them second chances and forgiveness when they truly seem sorry and wish to change. In the political arena, nowhere was this more evident with Marion Barry, caught on video smoking crack-and was re-elected. Yeah, see, I'd rather have a woman who stayed married to an unfaithful husband in politics than a crackhead. So you don't like Hilary, and that's fine. But its a weak argument to me that because she forgave Bill, she's a poor role model. So again, I suppose we can agree to disagree on this.