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RainmanTime,


Oh yes they do my friend! Oh yes they do! I've been there and yes they do tell how the F-117A works and why. In the first gulf war there are some F-117A missions that have not been reported that are classified to this day I know about.
 
Ren,
Oh yes they do my friend! Oh yes they do! I've been there and yes they do tell how the F-117A works and why. In the first gulf war there are some F-117A missions that have not been reported that are classified to this day I know about.
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Oh really? If this is true then I think I should advise you to review your copy of the UCMJ with regard to protecting classified information... for your own edification, if not for the prosecution of these obvious criminals you speak of. You might also wish to review THIS message about OPSEC from the US Marines Administation.

INTENTIONALLY PASSING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL TO
UNAUTHORIZED RECIPIENTS IS A CRIME, WHETHER TO THE MEDIA OR FOREIGN
INTELLIGENCE ORGANIZATIONS. MILITARY MEMBERS WHO VIOLATE THIS
TRUST WILL BE PROSECUTED UNDER THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE
(UCMJ). DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES WILL BE PROSECUTED
UNDER APPLICABLE FEDERAL LAW.
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COMPROMISING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION BY GIVING IT TO
ANY PERSON OR ORGANIZATION NOT POSSESSING THE PROPER SECURITY
CLEARANCE AND A BONAFIDE NEED TO KNOW IS A SECURITY VIOLATION AND
MUST BE REPORTED TO THE UNIT SECURITY MANAGER FOR APPROPORIATE
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Have you reported this to the security officer of your former unit? If not, I must ask why not?

Personally, I am having a hard time believing you. The reason why is that I personally know two F-117A pilots who were part of the squadron prior to and during Gulf War I. Furthermore, I worked closely with the squadron's lead avionics technician during that same period. These are responsible people, who have been selected for their position because of that trust. As a former military member (officer or enlisted?) I am sure you know that any pilot (officer) even ACCUSED of this (much less proven to have committed such an infraction) would have their career ruined.

Ren, now that you have "spilled the beans" I suggest you RUN, not walk, to an INFOSEC officer. The ass you could protecting could be your own. As a person entrusted with a secret clearance myself, I am NOT kidding around here. If you care about the country as much as you say, what you have related is a serious offense that cannot be permitted to continue.

N/I RMT
 
RainmanTime,


HA HA !!! You are truly funny. I mean to sit here and ask me why I did not turn my friends in for something that was told to me after the war. How funny. Yes, I love this country and to think that this has never happen before ha ha LMAO!! This happens all the time. Its not new. I don't think I will give any of the info that was told to me to the enemy. Yes I know classified info. Will I post it here? Hell no. Has my friends put this nation at risk? No. Are you really this nieve as to think this has never happen before in the USA armed services? It happens all the time. The services is not like you see in movies. I mean get real, the Russians already know all there is to know about the F-117 anyway. The thing has been around since the late 70's. You think that the F-117 and the F -22 is the best in stealth technology the USA has? Come on.
 
Um... dude... I watch 22's take off every day. Don't start acting like you know jack about jack, because I'll tear you a new asshol so wide that you'll have to go cry before making up a new screen name to hide your shame.
 
Here is the ULTIMATE in USAF stealth technology

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Ren,

I ain't effing around here, pal.
Yes, I love this country and to think that this has never happen before ha ha LMAO!! This happens all the time. Its not new.
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Does that make it right, Mr. Nonchalant?
Has my friends put this nation at risk? No.
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First of all, that is NOT for you to determine. Second of all, you cannot possibly know whether or not he has put ANYONE at risk, due to compartmentalized knowledge.
Are you really this nieve as to think this has never happen before in the USA armed services? It happens all the time.
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Are you really this naieve to think that just because something happens all the time that it makes it less of a crime?
The services is not like you see in movies.
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By my current assessment, I would say I know a lot more about the service than you do. I am beginning to wonder whether you really did serve. Why not tell me you unit and rank when you got out? That's certainly not classified. In fact, I might know some people who were/are in your former unit.
Come on.
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I do NOT mess around when it comes to INFOSEC, pal.

If you did serve, then you have a UCMJ. If you did serve, you know what you are reporting is a crime. If you did serve, you know you can still be prosecuted for not reporting a crime, ESPECIALLY an INFOSEC crime!

'Nuff said,
N/I RMT
 
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Using two separate system from offboard sources in accordance with standing published rules of engagement I have determined Ren to be full of poo
 
Freud


Ah no one is talking to you so why don't you get off of the computer before mom comes in and spanks you. I was responding to RainmanTime.
 
Oh... wow... this guy is NEW. First off, you're posting on a public intarweb forum. Second, barging in on conversations is what I do... It's my "schtick".
 
RainmanTime,


Boy you seem to know everything about everything. Now you know more about the Armed services then I do. LMAO LMAO!!!! What don't you know Rain LMAO!!! Let me get this right, you know how Time Travelers from the future should act. You know the nature of all the people in the world. And now you tell me you know more about the USMC then I do.
I'm speechless your amazing. WOw. What does the future hold for us all Rain???? What What??? I mean you have to know that also right? Hell why don't you tell me what my rank was in the USMC? And tell us who John T really is and Qronos.
 
, 1945 finds a strapping (but tender) five and a half month old Wyandotte rooster pecking through the dust of Fruita, Colorado. The unsuspecting bird had never looked so delicious as he did that, now famous, day. Clara Olsen was planning on featuring the plump chicken in the evening meal. Husband Lloyd Olsen was sent out, on a very routine mission, to prepare the designated fryer for the pan. Nothing about this task turned out to be routine.

Lloyd knew his Mother in Law would be dining with them and would savor the neck. He positioned his axe precisely, estimating just the right tolerances, to leave a generous neck bone. "It was as important to Suck-Up to your Mother in Law in the 40's as it is today." A skillful blow was executed and the chicken staggered around like most freshly terminated poultry. Then the determined bird shook off the traumatic event and never looked back. Mike (it is unclear when the famous rooster took on the name) returned to his job of being a chicken. He pecked for food and preened his feathers just like the rest of his barnyard buddies.

When Olsen found Mike the next morning, sleeping with his "head" under his wing, he decided that if Mike had that much will to live, he would figure out a way to feed and water him. With an eyedropper Mike was given grain and water. It was becoming obvious that Mike was special. A week into Mike's new life Olsen packed him up and took him 250 miles to the University of Utah in Salt Lake City. The skeptical scientists were eager to answer all the questions regarding Mike's amazing ability to survive with no head. It was determined that axe blade had missed the jugular vein and a clot had prevented Mike from bleeding to death. Although most of his head was in a jar, most of his brain stem and one ear was left on his body. Since most of a chicken's reflex actions are controlled by the brain stem Mike was able to remain quite healthy. In the 18 MONTHS that Mike lived as "The Headless Wonder Chicken" he grew from a mere 2 1/2 lbs. to nearly 8 lbs. In a Gayle Meyer interview Olsen said Mike was a "robust chicken - a fine specimen of a chicken except for not having a head." Some longtime Fruita residents, gathered at the Monument Cafe for coffee, also remember Mike - "he was a big fat chicken who didn't know he didn't have a head" - "he seemed as happy as any other chicken." Mike's excellent state of health made it difficult for animal-rights activists to garner much of a following. Even now the town of Fruita celebrates Mike's impressive will to live, not the nature of his handicap.

Miracle Mike took on a manager, and with the Olsens in tow, set out on a national tour. Curious side-show patrons in New York, Atlantic City, Los Angeles, and San Diego lined up to pay 25 cents to see Mike. The "Wonder Chicken" was valued at $10,000.00 and insured for the same. His fame and fortune would earn him recognition in Life and Time Magazines. It goes without saying there was a Guinness World Record in all this. While returning from one of these road trips the Olsens stopped at a motel in the Arizona desert. In the middle of the night Mike began to choke. Unable to find the eyedropper used to clear Mike's open esophagus Miracle Mike passed on.
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Ren,
Hell why don't you tell me what my rank was in the USMC?
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No, I asked you that question. And I also asked for your unit. Inquiring minds want to know!

While we are waiting, let's review some select passages from the Department of the Army's INFOSEC handbook and requirements, shall we? The INFOSEC guidelines for other forces (i.e. Dept. of the Navy) are based upon the same DoD guidelines and UCMJ regs. From AR-380-5:
Section 1-9, Responsibility of the Individual: All DA personnel will report, to the proper
authority, the violations by others that could lead to the unauthorized disclosure of classified and sensitive information. This responsibility cannot be waived, delegated, or in any other respect, excused. All DA personnel will safeguard all information and material, related to national security, especially classified information, which they access, and will follow the requirements of this and other applicable regulations.
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Section 1-21, Sanctions: a. DA personnel will be subject to sanctions if they knowingly, willfully, or negligently—
(1) Disclose classified or sensitive information to unauthorized persons.
(2) Classify or continue the classification of information in violation of this regulation.
(3) Violate any other provision of this regulation.
b. Sanctions can include, but are not limited to warning, reprimand, suspension without pay, forfeiture of pay, removal, discharge, loss or denial of access to classified information, and removal of original classification authority. Action can also be taken under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) for violations of that Code and under applicable criminal law, if warranted.
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Section 1-22, Reporting of Incidents: EO 12958, paragraph 5.7(e)(2), requires that the director of the ISOO be advised of instances in which classified information is knowingly, willfully, or negligently disclosed to unauthorized persons, or instances of classifying, or
continuing the classification of, information in violation of this regulation.
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So how many other violations of the UCMJ do you wish to cop to violating here on this forum?

I repeat, Ren, I am NOT messing around here. The ONLY way you are in a safe position is if you are lying through your bunghole, as Freud seems to think. Regardless of what you think about me, or whether you or I know more about the military, I think you KNOW that I am pointing out a serious issue for which YOU could be held responsible for your knowledge and lack of action.

It's not my life... it's yours. I've seen CIVVIES in the defense industry sent to prison for this sort of stuff.

N/I RMT
 
Actually, that's no joke Ren. If you know of any 22 drivers blabbing and DON'T tell, you are not only jeopardizing the security of our nation, but you're in violation of federal law. In addition to the ones cited by RMT, you might also want to take a look at Title 18, U.S. Criminal Code.

And guess what, jerky... we got your I.P. address too.

59.13.169.9 KR KOREA, REPUBLIC OF - - KOREA TELECOM
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In addition to the ones cited by RMT, you might also want to take a look at Title 18, U.S. Criminal Code.
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That's absolutely right, Freud. In fact, to be specific, Title 18 Section 798 - Disclosure of Classified Information is some interesting reading... to the tune of $10,000 fines and imprisonment of not more than 10 years, or both.

N/I RMT
 
RainmanTime,


LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO!!!!!!


All those private messages that I received about you are true! You are nuts. You really believe what you say? LMAO!! They told me to just blow you off and pay no attention to you but I could not resist. Yes I really was in the USMC. Have I violated anything? No. The only person in violation of anything in this tread is you, for actually taking yourself seriously. I repeat, Ren, I am NOT messing around here. The ONLY way you are in a safe position is if you are lying through your bunghole, as Freud seems to think. LMAO!!!! LMAO!!!!!
 
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