John Titor, I know you are still here

Leviathon, should I expose the fact that even after I was exposed, you STILL sent me a PM on timetravel0 wanting to prove that I was Titor? Someone was a little hopeful there.

But I wonder why I wouldn't even care if I got caught. Hmm, could it be the fact that I'm surrounded by people who have nothing better to do with their life's then watch X-File's and try to prove time travel is possible? If it were possible, you wouldn't know. do you think the government would actually let the people know that they can time travel? That's a weapon! They keep [censored] like that secret, especially sense it would be one of the greatest weapons of our time.

Or maybe it's the fact that I have a whole bunch of X-File/Star Trek loving people commenting on my every grammar error. "The Rambling"? Let's take a look at who ramble's, I see a whole bunch of people just typing and rambling about how time travel might be possible. "Lack of incoherent idea progression" what are you talking about? I'm not the one who post's about that time travel [censored]. I must say I answered THESE questions as john titor pretty well, I got tons of PMs from people (some are well known here, so I wont even say their name) who believed me and actually asked for help. "especially the apostrophes to show plurality", sense when was this board for english teachers anyway's?

"You are nothing like John Titor" newsflash, John wasn't the best at grammar either, which is why I was able to get away with this for as long as I did. "Furthermore sense when did you become an authority on intelligence", do you consider watching too much x-files intelligent? Well moulder?
 
2 more things.

1) i didnt prove anything? I was believed here just like john titor was believed. new or not, most of you were new when he was there. want the password to look at my inbox?

2) if your so F'ing smart, then you should have known it was me without having to go through and look at IP addresses smart one.
 
So called timeline39 stated on 11/24/03:
"As for something that will happen in the near future to validate who I am....... There is going to be an extreme earthquake on the Ring of Fire very soon. And when I say extreme, I mean extreme."

I did some research. First I would like to say I would like to believe (as most of you would) that these people are time travellers. Clearly Derek is not one, and I believe Charlie isn't either (or whatever his real name is). Why?! Here's why...

from http://www.syzygyjob.com/ you will find this quote from a geologist expert (and YES it was posted before Charlie posted his message)

James O. Berkland, Geologist stated:

"Thus, I predict, with 85% confidence, that there will be quakes with the following characteristics: Between November 22-29, 2003 there will be
At least one 3.5-6.0M within 140 miles (2-degrees) of Mt. Diablo (38N; 122W)
At least one 3.5-6.0M within 140 miles of Los Angeles. (34N; 116W)
At least one 3.0-6.0M within OR, WA.
At least one 7+M globally, probably in the Pacific Ring of Fire, where 80% of the strongest quakes occur. The thirteen major events so far this year, through November 1st, are no more than average to date, but eleven have been in a seismic window."

So you see, this Charlie person is just trying to dupe us. I asked him in a pm about what causes BSM (the fact I'm a Microbiologist and Biochemist would make it easier for me to understand his response). Instead he replied a bunch of mumbo jumbo that made no sense at all, and didn't even seem tied together in logic. What follows here is his reply to what exactly causes BSM, verbatim:

"I simply put an answer to the first line of your mail is not easy. I will try though. I am sure by now there are articles on the internet that show there is a weakness in Earth's Magnetic Field over the past few centuries, especially over the past 5 years. Although not known now, the effects of this amoung many other things are contributing to the higher rate of disease amoung humans and other animals alike. It has been noted by scientists in this time, although not fully publisized, that changes to our atmosphere due to changing internal properties of our planet and our magnetic field (amoung other things) has aided the arrival of new diseases. To tell you more, I would need to go into greater deepth of the cause which is a violation of one of my mission parameters."

It would have been easy to simply answer my question of what caused BSM, instead he gave this bunch of mumbo jumbo. The response is incredibly vague and has nothing to do with BSM. No wonder that phony never showed up again. I thought I would share this with the class.

As for John Titor himself, I have no idea if he exists/ed or not, but I guess we'll know over the next couple of years won't we? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Now Derek,

are you insulting Leviathan or all of us? Becuase I can assure you that he does not speak for all of us - I personally think that attacking someone's writing prose is the lowest form of argument. Half of the greatest minds of our history never finished school! Who's to say that some one with the secrets of the universe will be American with a degree in literature?

I wanted to actually write to you sooner, but I do actually have a job to do. This is just a hobby. Anyway, thanks for coming clean. I think it's the foremost proof that you wanted to proove something. I hope your inbox is not full of angry believers. I understand why you did it, and it wasn't the same as Charlie who scarperred when the questions got tough. Or maybe he was scared when he realised how ernst some people were!! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Yes this forum can be a little strange sometimes, but it's all a bit of fun. The idea of time travel fascinates me - even if it is only a plot device for entertainment.

But I have to ask you not to criticize the people here for talking about their interests. Whether people watch X-Files or not should be an indicator of their personality. I can tell you, over here in Europe when wrestling appears on the tv, an eyebrow is raised, the head is shaken in disbelief that people like this kind of thing and then the channel is changed. It's just something that some people like - and some people don't.

I welcomed your posts - as derekpacisalive - it was something new in a fairly stale forum. I saw you getting unfairly attacked in one of the sister forums, when you stated your opinion that an idea was a bit crazy, but that you still maintained that you understood the point. Some people can be a bit too resistant to opposing ideas.

I personally hope you keep posting here.

James
 
Thank's James,

I was actually about to get tired of this forum thinking everyone was like laviathon. then i read what you said, and i realize that not everyone here is like him... but i did kind of find it odd that he attacked me when the same day someone figured it out finally, he had PMed me wanting to believe I was titor, but then he attacks me saying "oh i knew all along" basically. i dont know, i just found that funny. kind of like "you didn't actually expect youd get away with attacking me when i had that in my inbox did you?"

yeah i think i proved my point, to most... anyways. some people may be too thickheaded to understand. Ill stand by my words about john titor being a hoax.

as far as the other forums go, i wasnt as serious on them as this one. i like to be not so serious, so i talked more serious on this one but not on the other ones. "are cartoons real" was one of my posts on the other one lol.
 
I apologize for my absense. I have been exploring different parts of Earth as a part of my extended mission. It was a suprise to me that commerial air travel is still so slow. I had to cut back my travel plans.

To timeline0,

Please Private Mail me your Name, Rank, and commanding officer's name. Information on other missions to this time period are mostly not available to me. So I need to verify your identification. Once I have that information I will go back to the future and verify it. Please be sure to include your coordinates so I can arrive close to your proximity. Obviously, if you are currently in a location that doesn't exist above sea level in the future you will have move.

I look forward to your mail.

Charlie.
 
mikedr,

I think you haven't quite grasped what I said. When I say extreme, I mean extreme. The size of this earthquake is going to going to be the biggest earthquake seen in modern times. The destruction caused by this plus 9.5 Richter quake will be immense.

I have just returned from the coming quake location to see if there are any clues that the quake is almost here. I was suprised by my finding as current technology should be easily able to record it. I made some subtle enquiries to USGS to see whether they have the same readings that I collected. Well, their answers were somewhat standerized. I think if I asked them about a dead volcano that I would have got the same response.

Although I am still bound to mission protocols and therefore I cannot reveal the exact location, but I think I can get away with giving you this. Please goto http://www.iris.edu/seismon and look at the locations for the quakes over the last two weeks. Now all I can tell you that it is not going to be near any of those locations.

I have to return on 20031217 @ 2000 hours. I will be on the internet a fair bit over the next day or so collecting information. If anyone has any questions for me, please start a new thread. I will answer what I can as much as I can before I leave.

Charlie.
 
Charlie,

You can save yourself a hazardous journey to the future by using a bit of current technology. On this forum you can 'go back in time' and read previous posts. Derekpacisalive has already come clean on the fact that he was was only posing as Timetravel0.

Convincing others that your journey is real may actually help you in your mission. Production of these airline tickets should be interesting...

James
 
To timeline0,

Please Private Mail me your Name, Rank, and commanding officer's name. Information on other missions to this time period are mostly not available to me. So I need to verify your identification. Once I have that information I will go back to the future and verify it. Please be sure to include your coordinates so I can arrive close to your proximity. Obviously, if you are currently in a location that doesn't exist above sea level in the future you will have move.

I look forward to your mail.

Charlie.
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Good going! You managed to get my username wrong. It's timetravel0 not timeline0... damn.
 
Charlie, AKA Charles Moltrup. IP: 203.40.56.16

Once posted on the old Art Bell site towards John Titor, 02-01-2001

"John the traveler
Sorry about the flip question you do know your computers but still why didn't you buy a CRAY computer second hand they are much more reliable.Have a nice flight BACK TO THE FUTURE"

So charlie, are you still a time travelor?
 
Good catch Derek.
I haven't checked it, but if you're right, then that's obviously bagged another hoaxer (unless of course it was young Charlie that first posted to Art Bells site, and then future Charlie visited his old home and used the same PC! oh no, he was born in 2006).

I had my doubts early (easy to say now of course) but some of the things he said weren't right. Growing up near the Flinders Ranges "west of Sydney". The Flinders Ranges aren't even in the same state as Sydney. Sydney is in New South Wales, and the Flinders Ranges are in the next state west, called "South Australia". Perhaps he was trying to describe very generally for U.S. readers. Can't get much more general that saying "west of Sydney" - pretty much all of Australia is west of Sydney.

His Name of Charlie Haynes - Charlie or Charles are not common Australian names (but to cut our man from the future some slack, perhaps it became popular. Perhaps Prince Charles became king?... ). However, Charlie is somewhat well used in Aboriginal communities, and there are Aboriginal reservations and settlements in the Flinders Ranges, and they do tend to have an anti-government attitude, so in my earlier post I asked Charlie if he was from there (no response on that).

What about the name Derek found - Charles Moltrup? That surname is not known in Australian phone directories for any city or country area for states that could have used that IP address. It is a real surname, but not known in Australia. Likley just another name he adopted.

Still, his timing was nice. Eclipse coming up, rescue mission, new version of time machine etc. Ooh and the "Visitors" - nice touch of potentially alien contact.
Will we hear from him again?
DJ
 
Re: John Titor,

I think as of late, what you're all trying to do, is fish hit this bait, to move it out of the area of view.

I will say this once, very carefully and listen to me.

Both Darby and Pamela were the two key elements used in how the Tiotor story unfolded.

So since this is a varied timeline, then their actions must correspond to Boolean algebraic states, of being either off, on, or possibly or not.

So I ask you, what would happen if one were to varaite the persona of Darby Darbyshire, to other personalities, say in simulation and how would this effect the unfolding of the John Titor story.

This would be to said effect states, of one Darby being in a different stile that he was, or Darby being a timid persona, to the point where Pamela Moore would have bullied him around.

My proposal is not directed at Darby, however how these augmentations would have effected the story of said John Titor.

This augmentation would have possibly as Titor appearing at an Ohio based parade and telling the crowd, that he was indeed a time traveler.

This would be say if Darby were changed to two other states of being.

What was the said product or indication of John Titor?

One was the indications of a new federal American empire and the second was a proposed telling of a revolution to come.

What if the mathematical product states, are not and have never been true.

Then by their actions both, or some of a the participants of the Titor story unfolding, would have been conspirators, in an attempted takeover of the U.S.

My part with this story seems to be a similarity to Thomas Dehn.

The reason so, is that one portion or another, we are both technically inclined.

Nobody at all, seems to have questioned either Darby or Pamela in how they outletted and or controlled information from the John Ttior debacle.

As of later I have also been attacked on this board, for unknown reasons.

The first series of attacks from from The One and The Young One, who had Israeli and Hawaiian I.P. addresses.

The second series of attacks, were from Jewstinain and Global one, who had a military clearing house I.P. and the other a Austin TX based university based I.P.Global seems sadistic and does not replete kindness......?

I still get cipher generated mails, I think from Global 1, as this is the same topic discussed, as was on the board.These are bounced I.P. sent mails, so as not to be traceable.

Are these people attacking me, here, also part of a plan, or are they paid disruptors?
 
Re: John Titor,

I assure you, just for the record, I am not eitehr the one, or the young one, this happens to be a name I use on various different boards, but if someone would want to send an email from a different server, so as not to have the IP traceable, I would look at an old program used by idiots a while ago: Methodus Toolz. Can send emails from ficticious adresses and untraceable IPs... research it, I also would like to save you time and tell you I'm right next to JFK, so you don't need to look up who or where I am...

you can reach me any time by email, you or anyone...
 
Re: John Titor,

Nobody at all, seems to have questioned either Darby or Pamela in how they outletted and or controlled information from the John Ttior debacle.
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For your information I have PMed both Darby and Pam on the boards they moderate. They have never answered. I told them I have more information that could prove usefull, and they put on this act where their trying to figure it all out. I personally think they know more then their letting onto. Which by them not responding to my PM has basically proved part of my theory true. I'm still trying to sketch out some blank parts for EXACT proof. Anyways, do not say "nobody at all" because I have questioned them both. They have never once responded to what I had to say. In other words, they know that if they told me anything I'd catch on.

As of later I have also been attacked on this board, for unknown reasons.

The first series of attacks from from The One and The Young One, who had Israeli and Hawaiian I.P. addresses.

The second series of attacks, were from Jewstinain and Global one, who had a military clearing house I.P. and the other a Austin TX based university based I.P.Global seems sadistic and does not replete kindness......?

I still get cipher generated mails, I think from Global 1, as this is the same topic discussed, as was on the board.These are bounced I.P. sent mails, so as not to be traceable.

Are these people attacking me, here, also part of a plan, or are they paid disruptors?
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Bah, whoever it is their probably just being dumb. I don't think its Global 1 though, ive spoken to him and he didnt seem to be the type who would do anything like that.
 
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