God?

[Roel van Houten]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

But even in this virutal environment of Energy exchange, the primary basis of it all is still Information.

I thought we already agreed on this subject. You're absolutely right. However, this doesn't in any way indicate that energy is selfaware. Energy does not express any form of selfawareness, or intelligence for that matter. Information needs processing and is quite useless in itself.

I am. You are. We are. The universe is.....all the same thing....we call it Energy.

First of all, I don't think the ability to create is really a mystery. I think it's the result of millions of years of evolutions where our central nervous system has evolved to a tool that allows us to create.

Second, we are all energy. Everything is energy. However, not everything is selfaware. That's a bit like saying "all the soccerplayers in the world are human, so all humans must be soccerplayers". I am selfaware, you are selfaware, but the universe isn't.

, especially since we in our day have chosen to forcefully keep these two separate.

Only time will tell which is the right way. I do not proclaim a strict seperation of science and spirituality, as long as we do not bluntly accept either as the absolute truth. If they are to be integrated, science will have to open to experiences that can not be sensed or measured in the traditional way, whereas spiritual experiences will no longer count as absolutes anymore. "God" will be just as much a theory as any other scientifical concept.

And I worship a God that can be One and at the same time Three.... and more. In fact, God is the Infinite and Unknown.

Yes, in the same way that the Egyptians worshipped one god in its many aspects. My point was, that if you think they had advanced knowledge of spirtuality, perhaps it may prove necessary to worship god in every singe aspect. If Egyptians really were ahead of us in every field, why not copy their believesystem?

I'd say that this statement of yours shows that you have really not grabbed the deeper significance of the 0=1 concept as giving birth to all things.

I do understand the concept of 0=1, but I do not (yet) acknowledge its validity. Using your version of the Energy Equation you can proof that 0 equals any value. So 0 = 1, 0 = 2, 0 = 3, and so on... While this may "prove" that 0 equals everything, I doubt that this equation has any valid mathematical or physical foundation. I'll try to provide proof for that shortly.

There you go throwing around probability again.

I was not trying to create the illusion that I have scientific proof for that statement. I do not really believe that aliens visited the ancient Egyptians, although I do consider it as one of many possibilities. To me it just seems more probable. Actually the reason why I think it seems more probable could be classified as "spiritual" rather than "scientific". When I was around the age of 11 or 12 I read a book by Erich von Däniken which left such an impression that, as to date, still arouses my interest in things like aliens, ufo's, cropcircles and advanced ancient cultures.

This is the essence of the integration of science and spirituality.

In that case I have no problem with the integration of science and spirituality. In fact, I can already think beyond "the physical" and I can visualize that everything is in fact energy.

We simply describe Energy as being multiple parts...

You could say that Energy appears in infinite ways. I was going to write: "Energy manifests itself in infinite ways", but that would imply that Energy is selfaware which I definitely think it's not.

But it seems like you do not see that what I am talking about (integration of science and spirituality) as being something "new".

I do see what you're talking about and I think it's something old in a new fur /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif In my opinion something "new" would be taking god completely out of the equation. That does neccesarily not rule out the integration of spirituality and science. Perhaps spirituality will become a useful tool in proving that god does not exist.

But I don't think you can for the very fact that what I am talking about completely aligns with what the cutting edge of science is discovering about Energy.

I will at least try to prove your 0=1 equation wrong. Please allow me some time, since physics and mathematics are not my strongest point /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

And yet, from your statement of belief about the ancients probably being in contact with aliens, you cannot even show that this statement of yours is true.

As mentioned above, I do not really belief this. I merely consider it as one of many possibilities. I think that the existing theories about where, by whom and how the numerical system was created will suffice until new facts arise. Also, from an evolutionary point of view it seems perfectly logical that humans would create a numerical system. When humans become aware of quantities, eventually they will feel the need to communicate these quantities to other humans. I can imagine that, when hunting, an individual might want to indicate how many prey animals or predators there are on the other side of a hill. In its most primitive form this could have been dashes written in the soil with a twig, but eventually this system evolved into a much more complex numerical system. This is a universal need, which would also explain why so many different kinds of numerical systems were invented by various cultures.

The problem is one of infinite regression...

Oh, like just like the existence of god?

The structure of the energetic shell of atoms is insignificant???

This is a perfect example of your talent for taking my words out of context. Of course the structure of the energetic shell of atoms is significant. The fact that there are 7 energy levels is insignificant. More specifically, the number 7 in this context is insignificant. There are 7 energy levels... so what? What does this tell us about the number 7?

The number 7, by itself, is not significant.

Good! So you agree that the numbers 3 and 7 do not have any particular meaning? So any occurance of that number is either accidental or purposely used by the author?

It is almost funny that you cannot see this.

I know for a fact that you have a better sense of humour

The discussion over the number 7 started with you claiming that it couldn't have been created by humans because there are 7 seven distinct electron energy levels that align with religious references to the number 7. This similarity is insignificant. It would seem significant, but if religions would have mentioned 5 instead of 7, you would have found anoother similarity. That's my point!

The fact that the blueprint for humans matches the Tree Of Life is a clue to look deeper.

Correction: blueprint for humans and animals.

Scientists are looking deeper, but it appears you don't wish to, as you think it is insignificant.

I didn't say it wasn't worth researching. I am simply not qualified to start looking for possible similarities between the tree of life and DNA. If a revolutionary discovery is made in this field, I'm sure I'll hear about it from people who are qualified. These things do arouse my interest, but not from a spiritual point of view.

This might interest you! But I guess you are already aware of this particular case.

Yes, I do, infinite.

So the chance is big that if you take a number that's represented in the Tree of Life, there's a matching binary sequence number.

Do you understand the significance of each binary sequence number in terms of differing constructs of life in the universe? 2^5 is connected to the human form of existence (five senses anyone?).

So 5 is another significant number /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif If you keep this rate up, I think we'll have thousands of "significant" numbers that match the model of the tree of life.

Dealing with "what ifs" that counter established history are of no use to us, now are they?

I'll help you remind.

Being so open about what they knew was true (through observation/experimentation) didn't exactly make Copernicus' and Galileo's life a bed of roses, now did it?

But that didn't keep them from doing so. Also, these are different times.

Rather, there is one, simple thread that ties all of science together. Energy.

I agree... Good ol' non-selfaware Energy

Is that perhaps because you think you can reach the same answers of Truth in an easier manner?

No. I seek truth (sometimes more passively than other times), but I haven't found it yet. Just like you I can only "have faith" in the things I read and hear. In my opinion science should be an ongoing process of trial and error. People make mistakes, but everytime we make a mistake we learn from it and it allows us to complete another part of this immensly large puzzle. Now, I don't mind integration of science and spirituality. What I do mind is playing Jeopardy! The answer is "God exists", now lets find a question that matches this answer. That's just not the "non-linear thinking" we are after! Of course the answer "God exists" can be one of many theories that we can either prove or disprove. There are no absolute truths (and I think you've already said that yourself on one or more occasions). /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

And are you aware that, right now, some of the greatest minds in theoretical physics are strong in their understanding that an accurate description of the universe cannot be divorced from the force of consciousness?

I wonder if there are any great minds that do no agree with this understanding. Now this may seem as a negative approach, but it is not meant as such. If I read an article by a renowned scientist, it is most likely that the matter he discusses will be presented in such a a way that it can convince other scientists, let alone a simple mind like myself

Cheers,

Roel

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

will at least try to prove your 0=1 equation wrong

My understanding is not that 0=1. 0 represents non-existence, nothingness. The 1 represents existence. The motion of nothing and existence, the whirling of the two opposites, creates a vibration.

Everything beyond the 1 is merely a reflection. With only 0 and 1 to work with, nothing else can be created beyond the 0 and 1.

No matter what mathematical function you use, you can not get anything beyond 0 and 1. -1 actually is a non-sequiter because if you have 1 of anything and remove it, you have nothing, you have 0.

How do we get a two?

By reflecting the 1. Once we have a reflection of the 1, we can now add 1 + (the reflected) 1 = 2.

However, 2 is only a construct of the original 1 and its reflection. With these two, existence still can not occur. Two can not be used to create depth, so we need to create the 3.

This is done by (original) 1 + ( reflected ) 1 + ( reflected ) 1 = 3.
Again, 3 is only a construct of the original 1 and reflected 1's, nothing more.

With the creation of the 3, we have completed the trinity. A balanced construct that adds dimension to existence.

This is the concept of the 0 and the 1. It is an inescapable truth.

There are no absolute truths

There is an absolute truth. It is the perceptions that become blurred. If 100 people are looking at the truth, it may be described 100 different ways. But, this has not altered the truth for what it is.

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

BTW, has anyone found my hidden message placed within my text?
It should be fairly easy to find since I didnt spend alot of time in encoding it.

And speaking of significance of symbols....What does WD-40 mean?

 

[creedo299]

Re: Huvas

WD-40 is a type of cleaner, that is related to rocket fuel.

The key here is overl, did you use your powers of R.V.ing to go down into the supposed home of God, as told about in the books the Andreasson Affair?

The question that is beings asked, with concerns to our sun going dwarf now, is how will this place once called Gods change, during the shift?

Who even made this place?

Was this two or more cubic miles of clear crystal naturally occurring, made in some part by aliens, or did the God Angelic Hierarchies make this themselves?

The end game point is,as proposed on Art Bell, is will the Earth be subjected to being near the realm of a red giant, if the chicanery intended towards the sun now, by the powers that be fails.

This is no longer a yellow sun, but instead, a white dwarf.

 

[creedo299]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

Ovrl' is the end game point, we know about God, but are either changed or destroyed in the process?

 

[Roel van Houten]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

0 = 1 seems mathematically incorrect; even with my limited mathematical skills.

However, the way Ray explains this equation on his website does create the illusion that it is mathematically correct. I'm going to try and invalidate this explanation. With my skills that will only take, oh lets say, 15 years... /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

0 represents non-existence, nothingness. The 1 represents existence. The motion of nothing and existence, the whirling of the two opposites, creates a vibration.

Mmmh.. yes. Actually that makes more sense than 0 = 1.

However, you could also say that existence occupies nothingness. Nothing does not exist and therefore it is completely occupied by something. In that respect 0 = 1 makes more sense.

Roel

 

[trollface]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

No matter what mathematical function you use, you can not get anything beyond 0 and 1. -1 actually is a non-sequiter because if you have 1 of anything and remove it, you have nothing, you have 0.

What about antimatter?

Or how about things relative to things? I realise that you'll probably say that absolute 0 is zero and anything else is one, but what about relative temperature, for example? For a human, when it's 30 degrees C it's hot. When it's -30 it's cold. Can the -30 not be said to have negative heat? And the 30 degrees negative cold?

In fact, this runs into problems whenever it's applied to any measure. If I go 10 miles North, then I've also just gone -10 miles South. If I travel back 10 years in time, then I've moved -10 years forwards.

 

[spacecase]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

What does WD-40 mean?

it was the 40th attempt at creating a water displacement chemical.

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

it was the 40th attempt at creating a water displacement chemical

Ding, Ding, Ding. You have won the prize. Yes, it was the 40th try that worked and the WD stand for water displacement. Very Good!!!!

 

[KerrTexas]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

What about antimatter?

It still is "something". The 0 represents negative existence, which still has potential, but escapes definition. Anything that evolves from negative existence becomes something by sheer definition.

In fact, this runs into problems whenever it's applied to any measure. If I go 10 miles North, then I've also just gone -10 miles South. If I travel back 10 years in time, then I've moved -10 years forwards.

Your example is still about "something". You traveled negative 10 MILES. Same with travelling back in time.


The following is quoted from The Kabballah Unveiled by S.L. MacGregor Mathers ( 1888 )

""""To define negative existence clearly is impossible, for when it is distinctly defined it ceases to be negative existence ; it is then negative existence passing into static condition.""""

So this is what is occuring when you place defintion upon anything negative, you have given it static condition. So with RainmanTimes 0=1, the 0 is would be that which has reached static condition, but doesnt actually exist . The basic 0 and 1 are two opposing forces. When you see 0 and 1 from a Kabbalistic point of view, it is a description of counterbalanced power. That being Negative Existence and Positive Existence.
The connecting link would be those things in static condition ( - 1). As an example, the Sterling Engine that I am working on, in my mind I can imagine it, but it doesnt really exist ( -1 ), but to be 0, I wouldnt know what a Sterling Engine is, I would have never heard of it, wouldn't even have a single thought as to what it could be. Nothing.

 

[RainmanTime]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

0 = 1 seems mathematically incorrect; even with my limited mathematical skills.

In a linear mode of thinking, you are correct that it is incorrect. I hope you do not think that I am oblivious to the fact that "0=1" sounds likes complete nonsense. But in a different sense, a more non-linear sense, "0=1" is correct, and makes sense.

Where it seems to make utter sense to me is when you analyze the pre-Big-Bang universal singularity condition. In this state, where ALL matter in the universe is contained in the singularity, all that matters is the Point Of View (POV). At this Time of our universe there was only TWO distinct POV's.

1 POV situated "on" the primordial point/singularity. When this POV looks outward from its fixed position ON the Point, it can only observe emptiness, or NO Thing.

1 POV situated "off" the primordial point/singularity. When this POV looks inward from its fixed position OFF the Point, in can only observe the totality of the universe, or EVERY Thing.

By shifting one's POV, or Point of Consciousness, or Point Of Assemblage (apologies to Carlos Casteneda), we can completely re-define the universe, from nothing to something. It is all a matter of your POV. Two distinct POVs, one that yields a view of Zero and one that yields a view of One. But they are both describing exactly the same situation, just from a different POV.

The "0" POV is completely and totally equivalent to the "1" POV, but it is just expressed in different relative terms. Hence, 0 = 1.

RMT

 

[Roel van Houten]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

In a linear mode of thinking, you are correct that it is incorrect. I hope you do not think that I am oblivious to the fact that "0=1" sounds likes complete nonsense. But in a different sense, a more non-linear sense, "0=1" is correct, and makes sense.

This may or may not be true, but we can at least conclude that it doesn't align with science. I was puzzled by the example on your website, where you simplify the Energy Equation to 0=1. At first it seemed right, but the more I thought about it the less sense it made (from a scientific point of view). Since I couldn't really put my finger on it, I had to consult a friend. He made me realize what should have been obvious in the first place: you simply can't assign a value other than 0 to delta E. The Law of Energy Conservation tells us that there is no change in Total Energy. Energy can only change composition (kinetic energy --> potential energy and vice versa), but the total sum of energy will never change.

From another point of view I think I can visualize what you mean with 0 = 1. We are part of what we observe. When we look at the universe, we look at energy... of which we consist. Therefore we are both the observer and the observed. In that case 0 doesn't exist, since what we think is 0, is actually 1. Does that fit into your concept of 0=1?

Either way, I think it can be part of a theory, but it doesn't really sound like a universal truth to me. Also this "equation", regardless of its validity, does not necessarily imply the existence of a creator.

Roel

 

[RainmanTime]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

I think you missed the connection, Roel:

He made me realize what should have been obvious in the first place: you simply can't assign a value other than 0 to delta E. The Law of Energy Conservation tells us that there is no change in Total Energy. Energy can only change composition (kinetic energy --> potential energy and vice versa), but the total sum of energy will never change.

True. But everything that we witness as an "event" that spans a given period of time is precisely described as energy changing its form. All events sum to zero. All=Nothing. Tough to get the linear-thinking mind around, I know. That's why I also included the other description of how placing your POV determines what "events" you perceive.

Also this "equation", regardless of its validity, does not necessarily imply the existence of a creator.

So then explain to me the details of energy and why it cannot change. And if all you can come up with is "that's just the way nature is", then you are clearly not interested in thinking deeper than the surface. Deep thinking has been shown to be required in order to answer the questions that people have thought had no answers.

RMT

 

[Roel van Houten]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

I think you missed the connection, Roel:

Mmh, I wonder. Let us first agree that the equation 0 = 1 does not align with modern science. In fact, one of the most important physical laws is incompatible with your statement.

That's why I also included the other description of how placing your POV determines what "events" you perceive.

Yes, but changing our point of view doesn't change what we are. Like I said, we are both the observer and the observed. We are energy and we observe energy.

So then explain to me the details of energy and why it cannot change.

I never claimed energy couldn't change. Energy changes in composition, but the total sum of energy in a system remains the same. That's a physical law and a very important one, I might add. So I'm not going to claim that "that's just the way nature is", but since this law is one of the foundations of modern science I want to see you prove it's invalidity first.

Deep thinking has been shown to be required in order to answer the questions that people have thought had no answers.

Yes, but the fact that I disagree with your 0=1 equation does not imply that I'm not thinking deep enough. I have a different view of the universe. A universe without a creator. I'm not too proud to admit that I do not know how our universe came to being yet. In my opinion no one does. You think to have found THE truth, which is your every right, but in fact you've created another problem. If the creator of our universe can evolve from "nothing" to "something", there is no reason why this couldn't have happened with the universe itself. It renders the creator obsolete.

I think there's an answer to every question. It's just a matter of time. Even if all this knowledge is encrypted in the bible, science has always managed to make the same discoveries by itself. There's no reason to think that this process will suddenly end. Perhaps spirituality can be a tool to help science, but I don't think it holds all the answers.


Roel

Roel

 

[RainmanTime]

Contemplating Darwin...

As you can see, Roel, I've tired of this thread somewhat. However, I still think you are not opening your eyes wide enough to see the evidence that is out there. Perhaps sometimes because it has been either suppressed or supposedly "debunked" by those with alterior motives.

For example: Are you willing to look at some fairly solid evidence that the evolutionary timeline set down by Darwin does not mesh with archaeological facts?

http://www.forbiddenarcheology.com/

So how old do YOU believe the human race to be? It would seem there is significant evidence to challenge the accepted story that science has forced down our throats for oh so long. This same sort of suppression can easily be seen to be attributed to those who felt threatened by Enochian texts and the knowledge of Qabalah, which is why we see so many people today who say there is no meaning to it... such people are only mouthing the people who have claimed this without actually looking at it in depth.

The authors of the earlier book noted in the link above have a new one that further challenges the accepted view of Darwinism. You can bet that I have ordered it and will be reading it thoroughly:

http://www.humandevolution.com/

Cremo proposes that before we ask the question, "Where did human beings come from? we should first contemplate, "What is a human being?" Cremo asserts that humans are a combination of matter, mind, and consciousness (or spirit).

Indeed. The unveiling of "THE truth" continues...

RMT

 

[RainmanTime]

Coincidentally 10 Commandments???

And so the Rainman will babble on and on about something, as a Rainman would tend to do....

So with RainmanTimes 0=1, the 0 is would be that which has reached static condition, but doesnt actually exist . The basic 0 and 1 are two opposing forces. When you see 0 and 1 from a Kabbalistic point of view, it is a description of counterbalanced power.

So very true. Counterbalance of Power. Some call it: Conservation of MomEnergy.

What an interesting coincidence that the number 10 is the perfect balance of both the Alpha (1) and the Omega (0). TEN = 10 = (1) and (0) = Existence + Non-Existence = Alpha + Omega. The High point and the Low point of a Circle. (Many, many other parallel correspondences here....)

But that is not the only interesting "coincidence" of the number 10. I am now going to point out a correspondence of 10 and Qabalah that should be readily obvious, but which I know some people may likely say is just my overactive imagination, or that I am being silly... or perhaps they might say it is just a symbol, and just because I am interpreting a symbol in a specific way does not mean it really has any inherent meaning whatsoever in any way...

However: There is a very clear connection between the story of the 10 Commandments received by Moses (and given to the Hebrew people) and the geometrical network called the Tree Of Life (TOL). There is a similar clear connection in Abraham and his lineage, which also had the 10 decimals of the TOL coupled with the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet (read and understand what Sepher Yetzirah is really saying). There is a connection, or common theme, running through these two stories that centers on the geometric (Gematriac), network knowledge of the universe. The stories of Abraham (22 letters), Moses (10 Commandments), and Genesis 1 (32 Segments) are all related to each other.

These coincidences and correlations might be validated as a certain level of "Truth" behind the claim that the Hebrew people were actually a form of "Chosen People". The reason they were "Chosen" is because their culture (and especially their LANGUAGE) was CHOSEN by an OUTSIDE INFLUENCE (alien? Godlike SuperSystem?) to receive the "code of the Tree Of Life" which is exhibited in the 10 spheres and 22 paths. Only the language and the mystical knowledge of the Gnostic Hebrews and their descendents in the Gnostic Catholics (both of which understand the TOL to be an architecture for Creation) has persisted throughout the years. Both of these traditions teach an integrated knowledge of the universe. A POINT where (1) and (0) annihilate each other.

There is much that I cannot say about these topics, for various reasons. But I can at least point people to look at the "coincidental alignment" of the 10 Commandments given to Moses and the 10 spheres on the mystical TOL. I could point to the first Commandment, and suggest that there is a much deeper meaning to this:

First Law of Physical Manifestation (Energy)

(1)... I am the LORD thy God. You shall have no other gods before me.

Potential Scientific Translation: There is only ONE(LORD), integrated reality (thy), and it is called Energy (God). We understand it as the laws of Conservation of Momentum and Energy, or MomEnergy. Any attempt to try to represent what God is (Energy) in the forms of Matter in Motion will NEVER be a true representation of God (Energy). That is because Energy is simply Energy, and it can only be approximated by dividing Energy into its dualistic, constituent components of Matter and Motion (m*c^2).

Above all Total Energy is always Constant. It NEVER changes. That is why it is fruitless to try to create (represent) "some other god" that is lower than Total Energy. It will always be incomplete and uncertain (in a very Godelish and Heisenberger sort of way).

There are many other logical, and obvious, alignments between the Qabalah and the Commandments. And they all tell a story of how the universe is structured. A story that has been held in the common unconscious of all people forever. It is something we all know to be true. And it is something we can see reflected in the architecture of our human body....along with so many other living things.

I may be totally crazy, but it seems to me that the alignment of: The human body, DNA, science, the TOL, and the knowledge of the mystics down through TIME, all seem to be saying the exact same thing to me. These structures tells us just how special we are as incarnate, physical human beings in the form of a networked body. They also tell us why our architecture of Life (balance) is so special and so important. When we all learn to Create in the same form that we are Created, then we will have mastered the concept of Energy. Embedded, Fractal, Creation directed by the Eternal Laws of Energy.

Now I told you I was going to babble, didn't I? Enjoy the weekend, everyone. I know I Will mine! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

RMT

 

[Mikebo]

Re: Coincidentally 10 Commandments???

actually, I find your numerology very interesting.

 

[RainmanTime]

Re: Coincidentally 10 Commandments???

actually, I find your numerology very interesting.

Thank, Mikebo, glad you enjoy it. However, I cannot even claim it as "mine". It's been around a long, long, LONG time, and is available for all who seek it out beneath the stories of our mystical history.

Above I hinted at a correlation between the mathematics of Geometry and the transformational processing of Hebrew letters known as Gematria (Geometrica?). Gematria is often described as a "folding" or "twisting" of letters in order to transform one word into another word with a related meaning. "Folding" certainly has a direct implication to geometry, and especially the specialized form of geometry which we know as topology....that deals with dimensionality.

Gematria is much more than just "letter games" as some would dismiss it. It is a process by which we can learn to "fold space", or transform dimensions. Is this not the goal of Time travel?

RMT

 

[enthusiast]

Re: Newsflash - Energy is THE Truth!

On what page is this 0=1 formula stated?

I don't want to spend all of my time just trying to find a formula...(if you dont mind)

 

[RainmanTime]

Science of the Virgin Birth?

For some reason, I have been feeling inspired to continue to add to this thread certain thoughts that come to mind. While I know where these inspirations come from, some would say there is no evidence that it is true.... but that is neither here nor there.

Why do so many traditions of enlightened humans focus on and speak of a "virgin birth"? Is it really just to add the "WOW" factor to the overall story of the particular enlightened individual, or might there have been real science behind at least some of these stories?

One would be hard-pressed to argue away the fact that artificial insemination clearly qualifies as a scientific interpretation of "virgin birth". And once you make this connection, a whole host of other possibilities comes flowing forth regarding the reasons behind why someone would wish to create a human being in a manner other than that prescribed by nature's process.

Natural insemination is, for all intents and purposes, a crap shoot. First because the male and female rarely (if ever) know all the specifics of their genetics, much less how they would combine to form a specific, new being. Therefore, artificial insemination is the first of many "solutions" for reducing the "crap shoot" odds of creating a being with the kind of characteristics you would want in a human being that could contribute to our evolution and advancement.

Now... how would our contemplation of influential humans down through history change if we were to consider that "virgin birth" meant that there was some intelligent force behind the creation of that influential human via artificial insemination? Certainly, this explanation is much more plausible and realistic since it involves science that we know is true.

This consideration would immediately lead to contemplation of some higher-level force of intelligence that was purposefully trying to create humans with specific traits and capabilities. Some might call this higher-level force "extraterrestrials" and some might call this force by the name "God". What you call it does not matter nearly as much as recognizing that it would have been a factor that shaped and influenced our puny little species on this out-of-the-way podunk we call Earth.

Imagine what we could do if we had even a small amount of DNA from the likes of people like Abraham, Moses, Christ, Krishna, Buddha... the list is endless. And yes, there ARE implications to time travel in this post... if you look deep enough.

RMT