God?

Re: She could steal but she could not rob.

Gary Voss told me of the council Of Zohar, which you have mentioned and this is the witches council, which is aether oriented.
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The 'Mages of the Zohar' are a grouping of beings who work specifically with re-coding the human race.
This may be accomplished for specific projections so ordained by the Hierarchy.
This takes place under what we have referred to as the 'New Dispensation'.
Understand that when one works with the Zohar Mages, one is aligning with and manifesting through Sacred Law outside of their current planetary evolution.
The Zohar Kadiph work in close synchronicity with the Kadmonis, but the former are not 'of the realm' as are the latter.
The Zohar Mages are also called the ' (OverLord)s of Dispensation' .

Opps, perhaps I said too much.
 
Re: She could steal but she could not rob.

Not all magicians or wizards were of black magic.

Saying, The wizard says>With my might and power I shall so part this rubble and start this world a'new.

Yes' so be it, I shall do this with a wave of my staff.

The advisor at his side offer this advice.

"Let a human do it".

The wizard irate responds, "What dare,....... say you"!

The prefect replies once more.

"Let a human do it lord. In these parts what does it matter?
Besides, the attempted folly should be somewhat entertaining.

Afterall, not all can wield power such as you?

Your competitors this time, would look at the attempt, as entertainment.

In this light you may win new admirers"?

The wizard stroked his beard and began to purr, "Let humans, little diminutive humans, fashion their own world"..

What merit will ever come of this?.........I should be amused to see such an outcome.

Overloard, you know little, very little of wizards worlds, nor the vast wizards wars, nor their motives, nor their familars.
 
Re: She could steal but she could not rob.

The 'Mages of the Zohar' are a grouping of beings who work specifically with re-coding the human race.
This may be accomplished for specific projections so ordained by the Hierarchy.
This takes place under what we have referred to as the 'New Dispensation'.
Understand that when one works with the Zohar Mages, one is aligning with and manifesting through Sacred Law outside of their current planetary evolution.
The Zohar Kadiph work in close synchronicity with the Kadmonis, but the former are not 'of the realm' as are the latter.
The Zohar Mages are also called the ' (OverLord)s of Dispensation' .

Opps, perhaps I said too much.

Creedo p.s. Don't part a other dimansion son from his father.

When you do that, this more than anything, f*cks wizards off?
 
Re: She could steal but she could not rob.

From on-file here:
>The teenager in tight bluejeans poised outside of the home-made time-gate, looking upward at the expanse of coils windings.Jaw agape while her friends, compatriots fiddled with the controls, which was supposed to have anticipated the thing.

It was one of the boys who noticed that simply, one of the auto-jack plugs were not installed.

Light years, in both time and space beyond, Hathor now planned to leave his lonely planetoid.
He was to meet with other wizards, such as himself, in order to discuss the current topics, of his section of space and time.

Her bum was tight.These pants held her legs and posture ever so delicately, as she continued to peer upward, as not to her knowledge the gate now began to suck her into the expanses of deepest space and long forgotten memories.

She was gone.

In the same tense of reference seven foot tall Hathor now found himself strayed from the course. The course that would have taken him to the wizard's council, on a large world, not far from his diminutive moon.

The teenage boy now looking up at where Rachel has just let out a scream, began to see the shape of a seven foot tall Hathor materielize within the time-gate.

Hathor,......did not look happy.

The only thing that Jeff could think of looking at the grimness of Hathor's face.
Hathor' dressed in a black robe, completed with an ornate jeweled Wizards staff, is the Graham Wilson Cartoon, from his dad's Playboy magazine.

This was depicted where a clown goes to a rough cowboys bar, and a horrible looking bar patron, complete with a gruesome scar across his face, says to the clown, "You funnin me,....bub"?
 
Re: She could steal but she could not rob.

Creedo yealds the floor to the overlord.

Not all wizards, were or are black magic oriented?
 
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Not all wizards, were or are black magic oriented?
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No, not all "wizards" are black magic oriented. 'They' do have selected disciplines, depending upon their purpose.

The Zohar Kadiph Mages dismiss whether or not they use their power for “good” or “evil, and often dismiss such concepts from their workings altogether. Whatever humanity defines as "magic" really isnt "magic" at all, but the use of knowledge, discipline and skill.

'They' may know more than you do. 'They' may have existed longer, 'they' may be more familiar with Universal Truths than you are, and have the ability to consciously care for your actions and lives. They may decide you are not thinking clearly and will do as they see fit, or perhaps will deem it "in your best interest" to withdraw from a situation and allow you to weather things out on your own.

Of The waking dream or "Twilight"; Being the border between the real and the unreal, it is a direct link between the Mind of the Mage and reality as you know it. This is the final, and most powerful, use of Twilight. The waking dream is affected by the desires and emotions of the The Zohar Kadiph Mages , and reality is, in turn, affected by the changes to the waking dream.
 
Re: She could steal but she could not rob.

Nature of thread was about god.
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The nature of this thread has not been altered. It still is within said boundaries. Even though we are discussing attributes or proof of God ( as well as concepts related to God and those texts that are being sourced), the premise is that the principles contained within the ancient texts can be applied to time traveling concepts.

It is the quest to understand the structure of time and creation, and to discover the basic componets to be utilized for time travelling constructs.
 
Re: She could steal but she could not rob.

I'm not going to argue with you, you're bigger than me and might hit me with your umbrella?
 
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... might hit me with your umbrella?
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I have no need of an umbrella, So you are safe from any such assault.

Also, there are not any provisions indicating that harm should befall you, my friend. Interesting how thee can feel alone when amongst a crowd of friends.

+ In nomine Patris, Filij, & Spiritus sancti, ite in pace ad loca vestra: & pax sit inter nos & vos, parati sitis venire vocati.
 
In Triplicate, Please!

Was pondering the Tree of Life and the concept of 0 and 1. Rainman has posted -1 in some of his replies and this has got me to wondering about the existence and non-existence theories. The discovery of dark matter pushing the galaxies further apart, may confirm the -1. This also creates a trinity of balance. But, then....
Perhaps this -1 is the Kether Sephira of Non-Existence.

As our Tree of Life descends from 0,1 to 2,3...
Perhaps the other Tree of "Chaos"? descends from 0,-1 to -2,-3...

Many questions arise with the concept of this duality of the Tree.

We define the 0 as the representation of nothingness. The 1 represents existence. -1 is not nothing, yet it would not be existence either, so what would -1 one actually represent?

And if -1 does correspond to something that isnt existence, what would be reflected to correspond to -2?

Does the Sephira of Malkuth of our Tree correspond or shadow the Sephira of Kether of the dual Tree?
Does the Sephira of Kether of our Tree correspond or shadow the Sephira of Malkuth of the dual Tree?


And whom would be the God of the Dual Tree? Our God creates through structure, does the dual God un-create through ( _______________? ). Not in the same sense of Lucifer destroying Gods creations, but something entirely different.

This sort of leads into an answer for Roels question..." Who created God?"

God has always existed. In what form, I don't know for certain, however, at some point God evolved and became aware of Himself. As all that exists within the Universe(s) has always been, with no beginning and no end. However, awareness of existing is different.

I am sensing that God is at War with this entity(?) of the other Tree, which actually may not be aware of its existence at all. We are perhaps the soldiers against this dual Tree and what it represents in the scheme of things. As evolution advances and we become greater at creating, we inherently are defeating the "eminations" of the other Tree.

Or perhaps for everything done within our Tree, the dual Tree automatically grows as well, to maintain a balance between both Tree's. As our Tree(s) of Life expand, the chances of a total collapse of both Tree's becomes less likely.

The collapse of both Tree's resulting in a mass of random awareness and non-awareness ( or whatever subsists in the other tree ), no longer whirling, but just scattered here and there.
 
Re: In Triplicate, Please!

I have found, a few years ago, that the God angelic hierarchies, had produced people on this Earth, in part, in similar fashion to how automobiles are produced.

Once the auto is produced and out the door, then at times, this seems to be their problem.

In this error, I have found that the Angelic hierarchies do not understand all, about man's situation.

I feel that mankind's population and the inability of those in power to see that we had to be put forth from this Earth, about twenty years ago, lead to the key mistake problems being told in Betty Luca's second book.

God is God, however a poster here by the handle of T-12 said, that the Gem robots that worked for the characters in Luca's book, rode in vehicles names Von Newman probes.

This raises on academic question to all, if God or the product known as God, resides at times in the crystal mainframe complex, as told in Betty Luca's book, then was God God always, or is God just visiting here, to make this civilization?

>Other points:I don't think other cultures gods, are part of the God mainframe complex, but may have differing methods to get here.

This was due to the many ethnenticities held here on Earth.

>T-12 may be related to me, via past lines, however this still does not effect the nature of this question........See T-12's bio at> http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showprofile.php?Cat=&User=T12&page=57&what=showmembers, or look for T-12 on the users list?
 
Triplex Orthogonal Fractal Embedded Systems

The discovery of dark matter pushing the galaxies further apart, may confirm the -1. This also creates a trinity of balance. But, then....
Perhaps this -1 is the Kether Sephira of Non-Existence.
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______0______
_____***_____
____*****____
___*******___
__*********__
_-1*******+1_
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IMHO, the triplex configuration shown above in this ASCII glyph is a general pattern of nature that shows up in all living, creating systems. It is a snapshot of the balanced triplex plane of stability that occurred after the None (God) took the Free Will decision to manifest Godself in the form of opposing forces (-1) and (+1). The numerical values of + and - 1 represent the two halves of the Tree Of Knowledge : (+1) = Good. (-1) = Evil. The (0) is the neutralizing consciousness that seeks the balance of these two.

The 1 represents existence. -1 is not nothing, yet it would not be existence either, so what would -1 one actually represent?
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In the world of closed-loop control systems, we assign this distinction to whether a system's control loop AMPLIFIES (+1) or ATTENUATES (-1) any particular control path of input to output. In any realtime control system we always seek to AMPLIFY the closed-loop responses that improve our ability to achieve the control system result. Contrary to this, we always seek to ATTENUATE the closed-loop responses that degrade our system's ability to reach its goal. Any control system (which operates over periods of Time) seeks the optimal balance of amplification and attenuation of critical signals related to achieving the system's goal.

God has always existed. In what form, I don't know for certain
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This I agree with strongly. God is the very action of continuous creation. God has always existed in all the different forms that physical beings can take. Since God is defined as the force of Creation, then God exists in all of the various forms of closed-loop Creation. And there are a lot of them...

I am sensing that God is at War with this entity(?) of the other Tree
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Yes. And aren't we all at War with our unique, individual demons? Is this not the life that each of us, as humans, play out daily? I seem to think it is. And I look to my interactions with other humans to help me get over my demons. I always seem to see the battle of (+1) and (-1) in all things in my life. It is a very personal thing, but it is also something we all seem to share in common, right?

Or perhaps for everything done within our Tree, the dual Tree automatically grows as well, to maintain a balance between both Tree's.
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Yeah, I can easily see this as a prevalent theme in universal energy. Every positive manifestation of energy seems to have its counterpart negative manifestation of energy. The key to being a conscious being is our ability to balance the two over Time. I know that I, for one, am always trying to find a better balance between my "evil" self and my "good" self. Don't we all have these dual forces of personality?

RMT
 
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Ray, according to Betty Luca, God in manifested into at least, two cubic miles, of crystalline strata, right here on Earth.

The question as to whether God would be a run-away computer program, or really God himself, was never answered.

You skipped carefully past my post, as if it was not posted there at all.

A superbeing living in at least two cubic miles of Earth's rock strata, has to be signifigent, would you say?

Also what happens if there is a God manufactures clause, that after a certain date, we are more responsible for ourselves, which would make religion less important all together?

You can see why Im chomping at the bit to get off of and away from Earth, if this is the case?
 
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Triplex Orthogonal Fractal Embedded Systems ...

I agree with your post completely, as is probably no suprise. However, all these concepts are existent in the tree of Life we know and have been ascending.

The Tree that I am proposing would be a completely different Tree altogether. A complete opposite of The Sephiroth we have come to know ( and love ).


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The principles we study and discuss evolve around this Tree of Life as shown above. The Dual Tree would be its "shadow" so to speak.

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This diagram of the Tree Of Life has the negative and positive correspondences. And your 0, -1, +1 fits with this format. I am offering a totally new aspect to this construct. A reverse, mirror image of our Tree of Life. This dual Tree if described or given a name would not be a Tree of Life so to speak, but a Tree of Non-Existence altogether.

To use an analogy... if we were to take a photograph of our Tree of Life and then develope the film, the actual photograph would be our Tree. The dual Tree that I propose would be that Tree that is the opposite on the negative.

That is where I begin to lose the grasp of such a concept. If our Tree is based on creation and Life, with a dance between good and evil, or positive and negative....what would a opposite Tree be based upon?

As I was roaming the net I came upon the image below. It sort of brought up another pondering...we sure are kind of puny arent we? It gets interesting to see what we really look like from a distance
the sun could hiccup and toast us all. Sort of like a Speeding Peterbilt Truck running over a Frog on the roadway. Might be a little splat and crunch, but the truck wouldnt slow down much.



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aren't we all at War with our unique, individual demons? Is this not the life that each of us, as humans, play out daily?
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Always. The demons within that we created within and that hinder our progress as we ascend. The harbringers of destructive patterns.

I always seem to see the battle of (+1) and (-1) in all things in my life. It is a very personal thing, but it is also something we all seem to share in common, right?
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Yes. A common experience it certainly is.

Don't we all have these dual forces of personality?
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As a Gemini, I seem to have two distinct personalities, as my wife and those who know me can atest too. The twins personified. A balance between the two is a constant battle.

To bring in the proposed dual Tree, it is actually not a part of our Tree, but a Tree of its own construct.

As God became aware, the Creator of the other Tree is perhaps not even aware at all. God eminates the Sephiroth of our Tree and ALL it represents in the "realm" of awareness, and the dance between opposing forces.

What the dual Tree would represent or what its eminations would be I only can reference our Trees structure. Sort of like the complete opposite of God himself. A counter-God, Gods dual personality, Gods Twin, etc...

As our God spoke" I AM " the other would state " I AM NOT " if the other non-aware God would be able to do so. A Paradox that can create brain lock.

The God that "became" from the stuff of all that is, and the God that is ( or isn't ) inert in all that isnt.
 
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If youre on record as dieing and then being born again and then being dead once more only to come back to life, this hardly does not correspond with your proposed tree of life.
 
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Playing hooky from work today.....shhhhh, don't tell! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

As a Gemini, I seem to have two distinct personalities, as my wife and those who know me can atest too. The twins personified. A balance between the two is a constant battle.
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It's easy to detect that you have a similar energy to my brother, who is also a Gemini (June 7th). Interestingly enough, I am a Cancer born on the cusp of Gemini (June 23rd), so I share some of the energy of the twins, but I think my crab acts as their neutralizer!


To bring in the proposed dual Tree, it is actually not a part of our Tree, but a Tree of its own construct.
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Yes. I think you do a good job of describing that alternate Tree. Is it not said that Daath is the doorway to that very Tree? The realm of the Qliphoth, where the Tree is mirrored in all its detail.

As our God spoke" I AM " the other would state " I AM NOT " if the other non-aware God would be able to do so. A Paradox that can create brain lock.
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Another excellent comparision. Yes, I definitely agree. This alternate Tree does not embody the concept of destruction, for that is the opposite half of creation. Rather, it just represents non-being, negative existence.

RMT
 
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OvrLrdLegion:

That first graphic you posted is very good. Study of it can help people ground their personality that deals with physical world "stuff" within a larger system of a soul and spirit. That is one view that I use often in relating to the world...

As I was roaming the net I came upon the image below. It sort of brought up another pondering...we sure are kind of puny arent we? It gets interesting to see what we really look like from a distance
the sun could hiccup and toast us all. Sort of like a Speeding Peterbilt Truck running over a Frog on the roadway. Might be a little splat and crunch, but the truck wouldnt slow down much.
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Oh God, yes, we are puny! The total energy output of our entire "civilized species" on this earth is miniscule compared to what is going on everywhere in our observable universe.

What makes it even more ridiculous is when you consider the scale of positions of the planets, which the picture you have posted does not capture. It only captures their relative size. When you look at the spacing of these planets over just our own solar system, one sees how unlikely of a species we really are.

It might even get one to thinking about how there may very well be "people" in frequencies "next door" to our frequency spectrum. And I think this is what Creedo is getting at, if I am not confused....

RMT
 
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