Re: #778
You are underestimating me Ray.
Well, I certainly hope so! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif We all deserve the gift of enlightenment and ascension. And we all serve as both students and teachers along our paths.
The problem is that, if it's possible for a god or deity to have always existed, the same applies to the universe itself.
Well, yes. But what we refer to as the universe, given our current state of scientific knowledge, is certainly incomplete. As I always point out, this is why paradoxes exist... more information is required to resolve any paradox. I think what you are infering is addressing one of my points: If there is a God, then that God is inextricably linked to the universe He created. The aspects of the laws of science we see at work in this universe would, necessarily, be aspects of the God that created it, would they not?
Why would it only be possible for a god to evolve from nothing to something.
Did I limit it to only God? In fact, the bigger, non-linear picture would suggest that all existence is a big, continuous, interconnected dance of evolution from nothing, to something, and back to nothing. When I use the equation (0=1) I do not use it in a linear manner. It is meant to imply an eternal, closed-loop process of Creation/Destruction. All made possible by Energy.
Perhaps the links you and OvrLrd posted provide a theory of how nothing can evolve to something, which might be interesting to read.
Indeed. Have you read any of the Kybalion link? It speaks to many of the same themes that both myself and OvrLrd have presented. Not surprising, I'd suppose, since this body of knowledge is what both of us have used in our progress towards ascension. I could post a great many quotes from this treatise that touch upon many of my recurring themes. But I think you might like this one the best: /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
"The purpose of this work is not the enunciation of any special philosophy or doctrine, but rather is to give to the students a statement of
the Truth (emphasis mine) that will serve to reconcile the many bits of occult knowledge that they may have acquired, but which are apparently opposed to each other and which often serve to discourage and disgust the beginner in the study."
This article speaks a lot about truth. One of the great truths that it explains speaks to how I am always talking about our physical Matrix of Massive SpaceTime as a great illusion:
"This Principle embodies the truth that "All is Mind." It explains that THE ALL (which is the Substantial Reality underlying all the outward manifestations and appearances which we know under the terms of "The Material Universe"; the "Phenomena of Life"; "Matter"; "Energy"; and, in short, all that is apparent to our material senses) is SPIRIT which in itself is UNKNOWABLE and UNDEFINABLE, but which may be considered and thought of as AN UNIVERSAL, INFINITE, LIVING MIND."
Yes, there are many Hermetic texts that can shed light on answers to questions we have about how our universe works. Eventually, if you study them, they will lead to an understanding of the more complex texts, like Sepher Sephiroth.
I have no uncontrollable urge to communicate with god.
Fair enough. But would it be also fair to say you do have an urge to understand the universe, and how it works, at least enough to achieve time travel, if not things greater?
So either he doesn't exist, or he cares as much for me as I care for him.
I'm sure you know that these are not the only possibilities. There is also the very real possibility that you do not care for Him as much as He does for you simply because you know less about Him than He does about you. In fact, this is quite common in our mundane life... we tend to care less for people we know little about. Before I even knew that Roel Van Houten was a real, living being, I had no reason to care about you. Now that I have come to know you, and interact with you as a friend, my level of caring for you has risen drastically (from nothing to something, you could say). If something were to happen to you where you were injured, I would care a lot more today than I did back in 2001.
It's not that I don't want to believe in god... there's just no reason to. In my opinion god is only another obstacle on the road to understanding the most basic and essential things in life.
No reason to? But if you are incorrect in your assumption that there is no God, and it turns out there is a God who is the Creator, then surely the universal laws are by His design. And thus, if you wish to understand the essential things of life, you would have to understand how they were put together.
This kind of gets to the heart of the differences between our two approaches. In my case, if it turns out I am wrong and there is no God, I have not really lost anything by making that consideration. However, if it turns out you are wrong, and there is a God, then by your denying His existence you will have lost an opportunity to get to know Him, which may have lead to a quicker and fuller comprehension in yourself of how the universe works as One.
It is very similar to denying the existence of some expert on some aspect of life that you wish to achieve mastery of. If I were to simply assume that there is no other master of this life aspect, because I cannot see any evidence that such a master exists, that denial will lead to having to trudge the path of mastery all alone. This could easily mean a protracted length of time spent in mastering your goal, and it could also lead to a premature death by messing around with something you did not understand. However, if I begin with the assumption that there IS a master out there, even though I may not see the evidence, then I do not really lose anything in my quest by seeking out that master. And, indeed, if that master exists, and I come into contact with him/her, my own chances of achieving mastery in that aspect of life have gone up greatly.
Since I have "met" our Creator, and "speak" with him regularly, this interaction has manifested itself in my life as being able to master those things which I have always wished to master.... namely, aerospace vehicles and complex control system design. And now I act as a mentor to those who wish to become masters in this aspect of life's science.
RMT
