Next Up: The Titor Olympics Prediction

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Not even some kinda of strange and newly contagious Disease

What makes you think this is "strange and newly contagious"?

There is more on this around the net.

Yes, indeed. How far and wide did you look? And did you look for something that would NOT confirm what you wanted to find? (i.e. did you actively avoid confirmation bias?)

I ask because it only took me a couple minutes to find the following by backtracking links to the ProMed reporting site:


<font color="red"> "I received the following email from Chuck Dolejs of the International
Association of Emergency Managers regarding a Sound of Hope web page
updated [26 Jul 2008]. Has this outbreak been verified by authorities?" [/COLOR]

Emphasis mine. But there is even more:

<font color="red"> "Using the database of the Global Infectious Disease and Epidemiology
Network (GIDEON &lt;http://gideononline.com&gt;) to see possible etiologies
for a hemorrhagic fever syndrome in China, the most likely diagnosis
would be Old World hantavirus infection (57 percent probability),
followed by _Streptococcus suis_ infection (40 percent), leptospirosis
(1.8 percent) and Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever (CCHF -- less than
one percent probability).

According to the GIDEON database, hantaviruses are endemic in 28 of
the 32 provinces, with most cases occurring in the eastern and
northeastern provinces (where Shandong is located). Hantaan virus is
endemic to Hubei, Heilongjiang, Jiangxi, Jilin and Shanxi. (Fang LQ,
Li CY, Yang H, Wu XM, Yang H, Chen HX, Li XW, Cao WC " [/COLOR]

So, if you understand what they are saying here, then you will understand why I asked you (above) what made you think this was "strange and newly contagious". Hantavirus is not strange or newly contagious. It has been known for a long time, and as indicated above it is known to be endemic of the very areas cited by your original link.

My reason for pointing all of this out is to provide a real example of why it is usually not a good idea for people who are not experts in these areas to "sound an alarm bell". So in conclusion, I see nothing in what you offered that would threaten the Olympics. But I can understand why you might want to try to get people to think "something may happen to make Titor right."

RMT
 
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Footage of secret opening ceremony leaks out

<font color="red"> Video footage of a dress rehearsal for next week's Summer Olympics opening ceremony has leaked out and is now available on the Internet. [/COLOR]

Direct Link:
2008_summer_olympics_symbols.jpg

mms://newsvod.sbs.co.kr/nw/0123/nw0123c203089.asf

Article of the Video...

:eek:
 
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about the last post

While the olympic curtain softly falls on the chinese repression in Tibet, the imaginary art-group Les Liens Invisibles celebrates the upcoming Olympic Games with a new fake-based hybridation between art, activism and advertising strategies.

Exploiting the global visibility of the Olympic Brand, the ambiguous www.peking2008.com domain is used by Les Liens Invisibles as a powerful advertising medium to subvert attention economy mechanisms and to promote the tactical (ab)use of fake-publishing as a new paradoxical way to reclaim the Truth.


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Re: Opening Ceremony Video 2008 Olympics

Only 8 days to the next (and perhaps biggest) John Titor disappointment! :D /ttiforum/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ttiforum/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
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I will have to get to work to ID the next probably failed "prediction". But we are running out of them. It may be that the only "specific" one that is left is the 2015 nuclear war.

Anyone see a US civil war breaking out yet??? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
RMT
 
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On a side note the website for the olympics was hacked temporarily yesterday and forwarded to this site.

Its safe .

Nope no civil unrest yet. I think.
 
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Ray,

Next up for Titor is 2011:

"...in 2011, the United States is in the middle of a civil war that has dramatic effects on most of the other Western governments."

But it's pretty difficult for that one to come to pass as predicted. It's a bit difficult to be in the middle of a civil war in 2011 that began in 2004 or 2005 when no civil war began in 2004 or 2005.

Note:

And before anyone chimes in with their personal definition of the term "civil war" in order to make the case for Titor, recall that he provided a compete definition of what he meant by when he used the term - armed conflict between opposing forces.
 
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Next it seems as if California is going under, along with 30 other States with the way things are.

I know, bomb Germany, and get rid of nazi-like thinking people in this Country and watch everything smooth out. After all if any of the rest of the world thinks about doing something, they will get the idea that it will be 10 times worse than what Germany took if they try anything.

Thus an effective end!
 
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Only 8 days to the next (and perhaps biggest) John Titor disappointment!

I was just kinda of wondering why the front of TTI's web-sight says <pre><font class="small">code:</font><hr>John Titor was here.
- November 2, 2000</pre><hr> if his predictions have not come to past and he is a fake. I'm pretty sure it has to do with advertisement and pulling in more readers. And since he is a internet legend that can,t complain or sue for his name being used without his permission why not. What would he tell the judge? "Hey, I came back in time to sue". Well I just thought this was interesting enough to share. I don,t think Mr. Titor was on the level.
 
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John Titor was here. - November 2, 2000

It says that because this is the original site where TimeTravel_0 (John Titor on Post-2-Post) began posting on 2-NOV-2000. The logo is hypertext. If you click on it you go "here" - the TT discussion forum.
 
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I still suggest the Olympics have to complete Darby to completely lay it to rest.

Wouldn't want a Sarin bomb going off inside the stadium, even trace amounts of that stuff are freaky.

All the gas masks in the world won't do anything to help.

I am just throwing it out there....
 
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Kanigo2:

I still suggest the Olympics have to complete Darby to completely lay it to rest.

Upon what do you base that suggestion? Because I do not agree. (Or is this another case of you being sarcastic?) /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

To adhere strictly to the words of the "prophet" himself, Titor's "prediction" is already laid to rest because all he said was that no "official" Olympics were held after 2004. We have had the official winter olympics in Turino, Italy back in 2006. Only for entertainment value (and because we like seeing "true believers" twist and squirm to validate their hero) are we even considering the second nail in the coffin, namely Bejing in 2008.

So what makes an Olympics "official"? Some would certainly say that the opening ceremonies brands the games as "official". However, there is little doubt that once a set of medals are awarded for the first event, that confers officiality.

But I will even out-do Titor and predict that we will not only have an opening ceremony in Bejing, but we will also see the closing ceremonies. And that WILL put Titor to bed once and for all!

But I am sure Pamela would not agree! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Such is the bias of the lovelorn! :oops:
RMT
 
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Nah , no sarcasm.

I said laid to rest and I mean it.

You could say in for a dime? in for a dollar here.

I won't fall for any False Flag events that partially close the ceremonies then they continue again either. Till completion and all events complete, medals awarded.

All the way till completion.
I have time and in no mood to rush. I would actually like to see us pull off some golds. Just gives me more reason to watch.

What are the current bets up to anyone checked?
 
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I won't fall for any False Flag events that partially close the ceremonies then they continue again either.

Well, I am certainly glad about that! Because certainly Titor did not say "bad things would happen during the Olympics." /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Till completion and all events complete, medals awarded.

All the way till completion.
I have time and in no mood to rush.

Fair enough for me. How about we meet back here at the Time the closing ceremonies begin? I'll buy the 6-pack.

RMT
 
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Hello all,
I have not read the 4 pages of posts stemming from the original post, but I would like to comment on the original post since it seems to be a recurring topic here when predictions do not hold up.

Time is linear. Sure it waxes and wanes in speed, but it is a vector. Psychological perception is not linear, and over and over again, I see people getting the two jumbled. Although time is a definite, our reality (perception) is not. There are multiples and this is why someone can have knowledge of the future, describe it to you, and it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen for you, in your perception, but that does not mean it did not happen. Time is straight as an arrow, calculated, sure. Our reality and perception of the world (and thus time) is constantly in flux. Rest assured, it takes a unique understanding to comprehend this which you can not learn in school.

When person W states that X,Y, Z will happen at/by a certain date, they may be telling the truth, but that truth may be invisible to your/our reality. This fundamental truth is what makes time travel so hard to comprehend and even harder to prove. And those that do understand, can not explain it fully.

Not only can those who sense time travel and reality shifts not communicate this sense well, they are stuck with, and mentally persecuted by, alternate realities. It's not easy living with multiple sets of memories that overlap vector oriented time. That being said, I wish people on this site would take into consideration the feelings and emotions of a true time traveler before blasting them for predictions not coming true. They are simply doing the best they can to communicate what they know, yet at the same time, the system of universal physics and psychological human perception is working against them. All I ask is that everyone pauses for a bit before assuming someone a fake.
 
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Hello all,
I have not read the 4 pages of posts stemming from the original post, but I would like to comment on the original post since it seems to be a recurring topic here when predictions do not hold up.

Time is linear. Sure it waxes and wanes in speed, but it is a vector. Psychological perception is not linear, and over and over again, I see people getting the two jumbled. Although time is a definite, our reality (perception) is not. There are multiples and this is why someone can have knowledge of the future, describe it to you, and it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen for you, in your perception, but that does not mean it did not happen. Time is straight as an arrow, calculated, sure. Our reality and perception of the world (and thus time) is constantly in flux. Rest assured, it takes a unique understanding to comprehend this which you can not learn in school.

When person W states that X,Y, Z will happen at/by a certain date, they may be telling the truth, but that truth may be invisible to your/our reality. This fundamental truth is what makes time travel so hard to comprehend and even harder to prove. And those that do understand, can not explain it fully.

Not only can those who sense time travel and reality shifts not communicate this sense well, they are stuck with, and mentally persecuted by, alternate realities. It's not easy living with multiple sets of memories that overlap vector oriented time. That being said, I wish people on this site would take into consideration the feelings and emotions of a true time traveler before blasting them for predictions not coming true. They are simply doing the best they can to communicate what they know, yet at the same time, the system of universal physics and psychological human perception is working against them. All I ask is that everyone pauses for a bit before assuming someone a fake.

They don't understand time travel. John didn't predict anything he simply told us what happened on his timeline. He even said this timeline was different because he was on it now. He was concerned we may be headed in the same direction but he was not sure of the total outcome. Its all in his posts they just choose to ignore it.
He even said we could change it. They know this they just delite in posting the same dribble over and over and over again. Its like they are afraid of him or something or afraid of what people will believe because of him or something. I don't understand them.
I read this thread and it is actually kind of funny to me. What the heck are they proving? nothing. lol

If what happened on John's timeline does not happen exactly that way here how in the heck does that prove he is not a timetraveler? He knew it was possibilities and probabilities only.
 
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They don't understand time travel.

And you do? Excuse me while I bust a gut! :D

John didn't predict anything he simply told us what happened on his timeline.

Which he claimed was within "about 2% divergence" from ours. And then made up mumbo jumbo about "divergence" which is unfalsifiable science.

He even said this timeline was different because he was on it now. He was concerned we may be headed in the same direction but he was not sure of the total outcome. Its all in his posts they just choose to ignore it.

It has not been ignored, but I can see that after all these years you are choosing to ignore explanations of how decidely unscientific it is to present a completely unfalsifiable story as "proof".

I read this thread and it is actually kind of funny to me. What the heck are they proving? nothing. lol

And that is exactly the point, Pamela. Those of us who truly understand how science works know we cannot prove a negative. But where you show your own scientific ignorance is that you choose to believe a story from someone that is unfalsfiable, and one for which he offered no proof. That is what makes me laugh about you when you are "in character" with posts like these.

If what happened on John's timeline does not happen exactly that way here how in the heck does that prove he is not a timetraveler? He knew it was possibilities and probabilities only.

And once again, referring to "possibilities and probabilities" is not the same as quantifying them. I could use the exact same ruse in any of the many "predictions" I have made on these forums. Any of them. But I choose not to because I know it is not only bad science, it would be lying to people. You often like to play your part as the "high and mighty" person who always takes the high road. But the fact that you prop up what has become clear is a hoax means you violate your very own ethics you use to judge others.

The simple fact is that for John's alleged timeline to have had the types of events he described (i.e. US civil war, and end to the Olympics, Mad Cow gone mad, etc.) would mean it becomes more and more unlikely that his timeline was only "about 2% divergence" from ours. To be a little less technical: Each OFFICIAL Olympics that is held from 2006 onward means his timeline and ours are that much more divergent. There are other consequences to John's story resulting from this fact, and I don't think you or the person who played John thought about them in the past or have yet figured them out as of today. It makes for a clear paradox, and you have yet to identify it for if you had you would have stuck your finger in the dyke to keep it from bursting! LOL.

RMT
 
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Ray,

Here's the real kicker. China has invested over $42 billion in construction costs alone to put on the Olympics. Does anyone actually believe that the IOC, China or any potential future host country/Olympic participating country will just walk away from that sort of investment a few days before the event is scheduled to begin? That's not exactly chump change.

The Olympics will go off as scheduled just as the 1976 Olympics went off as scheduled even though Black September infiltrated the Olympic Village and murdered 11 Israeli Olympic athletes in Munich during the 1972 Games.

And as we've stated several times over the past few years, the Winter Olympics constitute the "official Olympics".

From the Olympic Charter, Chapter 33:

33 Celebration of the Olympic Games

1. The Games of the Olympiad are celebrated during the first year of an Olympiad, and the Olympic Winter Games during its third year.

Chapter 33 taken in toto completely answers the question in detail as to what constitutes the official Olympic games.
 
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He even said this timeline was different because he was on it now. He was concerned we may be headed in the same direction but he was not sure of the total outcome. Its all in his posts they just choose to ignore it.

He said the same thing concerning the "email experiment". In fact he went even further by stating that the email experiment would have no effect on anyone "here" who participated.

Granted, this will not affect you on your worldline now but you make take some comfort that another “you” on another worldline has the advantage of knowing something you wish you knew three years ago. Based on the earlier questions I’ve seen, I’ve decided a day-to-day record of the Dow a day in advance should convince you that the messages are real in 1998.

Yet several of the people who participated chose to ignore that caveat as well. Moreover they also ignore Titor's offer to violate Rule #1

1. I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or sports tips.
Of course a day-to-day record of the DOW closing a day in advance isn't a stock tip and it couldn't possibly assist anyone to personally gain by that knowledge. No way. Err...way! What happened to the Eagle Eyed criticism on that one?

They even failed to catch the reference to "you" in the Daily DOW gambit. "You", according to the first part of the paragraph, wouldn't receive the emails with the Daily DOW in it. But in the second half of the paragraph he offers to convince the "yous" that the emails are real in 1998. By this time in the story, which is very near the end, Boomer has his eye teeth and tongue so tangled up that even he can't keep the story straight in his head...and it's his story. He can't write a logically consistent paragraph, has somehow forgotten about Rule #1 and suddenly appears to care afterall that only one or two people seem to believe him.

Yeah, yeah, I know. There I go - once again twisting his words by directly quoting his posts.
 
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