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Oh my god RMT. Their is no call to be so rude. I think you are in a habit of being this rude online. Anyways it was what you posted. Their isn't anything indirect about it. By your own words you asked for a cut by half and got it. But never mind. I had no idea you had such strong feelings about it. Please forgive my working you up.

Just as I thought. You have nothing. Pathetic all that drama you cast.

Rude? I see. Calling for you to put up or shut up is now rude, is it? You and your relative morality.
RMT
 
You can think that all you want. The crash will be total as I stated before. The market now is being inflated with all the money being printed. They are printing more money then they have ever done before. The true Stock Market is only around 6500 or so.
Quoted and bumped hatsune.This was on page 13. Qronos said the stock market would pass 12,000 and it did. Then we have his quote here and here is the wikipedia page on the crash of 07/08/09 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_bear_market_of_2007–09

The DJIA hit a market low of 6,443.27 on March 6, 2009, having lost over 54% of its value since the October 9, 2007 high
I'd say qronos called it.
Another wiki link on it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_market_crash

By March 6, 2009 the DJIA had dropped 54% to 6,469 (before beginning to recover) from its peak of 14,164 on October 9, 2007, over a span of 17 months
So as we can see different wiki pages have different numbers but it is all around the same spot of 6500...
And when it comes to predicting economic models precisely... This kind of accuracy people is implausible.[DOUBLEPOST=1410415669,1410414877][/DOUBLEPOST]

What exactly did he get "right" about the stock market "so far"? Given the past history of the stock market to go up over the long haul, anyone could have predicted 12,000.And let me point out that he never quantified WHEN this crash would happen... and you know I will be looking out to make sure no one calls a 1-2% correction as him being "right".
He said TOTAL crash. By anyone's barometer that has to mean at LEAST 50% (and I am being generous there).

Ain't gonna happen. But you can spin all you want.

RMT
And this is the quote RMT asked me for.. I did not want to give it previously because he was in a position of power and looking for an excuse to use it on me because of our history. STILL in October of 2006 RMT said at least 50%. In one year the market would begin to crash, by 09 it had dropped by more than 50% to the valuation somewhere around 6500 according to the various wiki articles and their various referenced sources.
Qronos hit a bullseye.

 
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Regardless of opinion on the matter, I am glad that titiorite returned to post a thoughtful response to what did seem to come across as rather hostile treatment. Even as a skeptic, this is interesting info.

 
Warning

I know there are quite a few of you who believe John Titor was a hoax perpetrated by a few conspirators possibly looking for attention and/or in it to profit monetarily. I can’t speak for the motives of some individuals but I can possibly speak to John’s.

First, let me state that I believe without any doubt or reservation that John was exactly what he claimed to be: “A Time Traveler/World Line Traveler”. I witnessed a time travel event in progress back in late 2005. In 2006, I asked Qronos 16 to post a copy of a document I had originally posted on Conspiracy Café. This was my very first post, which describes what I had observed in the very early morning hours back in July 2005. It’s from this observation, coupled with additional experiences, that I can unequivocally state John Titor was the real deal!

Second, that his objectives in posting on this site was both to inform and warn. It is his warning that I now speak. Even with John’s stopover, he did not believe it was enough to change our future. It appears he may be right. In 2008, I was given the year 2014 and told it would be the beginning of what’s to come. You need to pay close attention to current events taking place in the world NOW! It’s coming and you will need to prepare!!

Gnostic

Don’t forget your gas can!!

 
To believe in something without reservation or doubt is usually just reserved for religious purposes exclusively. If you do cross that line, you are in danger of losing your sanity.

 
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First, let me state that I believe without any doubt or reservation that John was exactly what he claimed to be: “A Time Traveler/World Line Traveler”. I witnessed a time travel event in progress back in late 2005. In 2006, I asked Qronos 16 to post a copy of a document I had originally posted on Conspiracy Café. This was my very first post, which describes what I had observed in the very early morning hours back in July 2005. It’s from this observation, coupled with additional experiences, that I can unequivocally state John Titor was the real deal!
I have reasons to believe Titor is real as well. There is always this little nagging in the corner of my mind that tells me to be careful, though. I can't honestly say I have no doubts whatsoever, but I have never experienced a time travel event. Could you please tells us more about it?
It sounds like it warrants it's own thread. I'm sure Cosmo would love a new post so we can find it easier. Otherwise, it's going to be buried in here. :) IMHO.

Second, that his objectives in posting on this site was both to inform and warn. It is his warning that I now speak. Even with John’s stopover, he did not believe it was enough to change our future. It appears he may be right. In 2008, I was given the year 2014 and told it would be the beginning of what’s to come. You need to pay close attention to current events taking place in the world NOW! It’s coming and you will need to prepare!!
I agree that something major is going to happen. It may not be a nuclear war per se, but more of a status quo change. At any rate, I'm not so sure Titor's purpose was to make changes. I personally believe he had something to do or retrieve from this timeline and also placed some messages and timeline markers that weren't meant for any of us.

Don’t forget your gas can!!
Mine is only partially full. I need to step up my efforts a little. It never hurts to have emergency supplies and a plan in place for ANY type of disaster.

 
In 2008, I was given the year 2014 and told it would be the beginning of what’s to come. You need to pay close attention to current events taking place in the world NOW! It’s coming and you will need to prepare!!Gnostic
Don’t forget your gas can!!
Can you elaborate please (what's coming? and who told you in 2008 to keep an eye on events in 2014?)

 
To believe in something without reservation or doubt is usually just reserved for religious purposes exclusively. If you do cross that line, you are in danger of losing your sanity.
wait wait wait, am I reading this right: are you saying that everyone who is religious is insane?
I hope not but if so you have to realize that insanity is not reserved for the faithful and faith is not reserved for the religious. How long has the Higgs Boson been hunted with absolutely NO proof of its existence? One might refer to it as the holy grail of science written about long ago in the math that makes up sciences bible AKA physics books. All theoretical sciences are based in faith: faith that someday there will be a grand event- a kind of revelation, one might say- or discovery that proves all the theories as fact. A rapture of science, if you will.

And you cannot be the true atheist arch skeptic you portray yourself to be because you are here on a time travel website. You're a seeker like any other religious person only you seek a different end result, a different "revelation". If you didn't believe just a tiny little bit in the back of your mind that time travel was possible you wouldn't be here, you would waste your lunch breaks elsewhere of more sensible pursuits.

Case in point I doubt you're spending too much time researching the Chupacabra but I could be wrong.

Now Im not the most religious person in the world, as a matter of fact Im not technically religious at all but I am adamant to defending people of faith just because its their right to do so. Calling the faithful insane is, well, retarded. Even your own namesake Einstein labeled himself an agnostic as opposed to an atheist. Even Einstein in his vast (and more vast than you and I combined, I'd imagine) said it would be irresponsible to rule out the existence of god without proof equally as it would be to believe the same under identical parameters.

just my .02.

 
wait wait wait, am I reading this right: are you saying that everyone who is religious is insane?I hope not but if so you have to realize that insanity is not reserved for the faithful and faith is not reserved for the religious. How long has the Higgs Boson been hunted with absolutely NO proof of its existence? One might refer to it as the holy grail of science written about long ago in the math that makes up sciences bible AKA physics books. All theoretical sciences are based in faith: faith that someday there will be a grand event- a kind of revelation, one might say- or discovery that proves all the theories as fact. A rapture of science, if you will.
And you cannot be the true atheist arch skeptic you portray yourself to be because you are here on a time travel website. You're a seeker like any other religious person only you seek a different end result, a different "revelation". If you didn't believe just a tiny little bit in the back of your mind that time travel was possible you wouldn't be here, you would waste your lunch breaks elsewhere of more sensible pursuits.

Case in point I doubt you're spending too much time researching the Chupacabra but I could be wrong.

Now Im not the most religious person in the world, as a matter of fact Im not technically religious at all but I am adamant to defending people of faith just because its their right to do so. Calling the faithful insane is, well, retarded. Even your own namesake Einstein labeled himself an agnostic as opposed to an atheist. Even Einstein in his vast (and more vast than you and I combined, I'd imagine) said it would be irresponsible to rule out the existence of god without proof equally as it would be to believe the same under identical parameters.

just my .02.
Of course I have beliefs. But I know which side of the line those beliefs are on. And calling religious people insane is a little harsh. Since I did point out that it is considered acceptable to have religious beliefs without verification.
But that type of belief system has no place in science. Who ever started the idea that we could turn fiction into fact? Must be witches, right? Incantations and spells are now called theories. Pay attention to what you are urged to believe. Some of it is just down right hilarious.

By the way, there are some pretty convincing Chupacabra videos on YouTube for your entertainment.

 
This is a simple and uncomplicated description of what I had witnessed:

Hello;

This is the first time I’ve ventured to post on any forum (although I am registered on a couple of others), so, please forgive me if I’m not completely clear in my expressed objective as I write this. I’m a person who has been dealing with the angst of coming forward and relating what I personally have witnessed and experienced, in regards to time travel and their travelers.

I do not reside in Florida and have never had the opportunity to travel there. I am located on the west coast and I’m a native Californian. I’m also a city dweller who lives in an area that is well populated. But even those things that are unexpected are allowed to occur in the city.

I first heard the story of John Titor (a little over a year and a half ago) while listening to Coast to Coast KFI 64.0 FM on the radio. It was from a brief guest, interviewed by George Norey, that I learned about the archived threads of this individual who had asserted to be a time traveler from the year 2036. Afterwards, for some uncharacteristic reason, I found myself curiously intrigued by what I had heard and, felt compelled to examine these archived threads for myself.

Up until that time, I hadn’t believed in the feasibility of time travel, nor had I considered it to be an achievement that would, if ever, evolve into something that was realistically viable. Since the exploration that is needed in acquiring the knowledge, as well as the technological means (that would undoubtedly be required for such an enterprising feat to reach fruition) appeared far removed from any truly significant research being conducted by the scientific communities at this time. Nor have they truly indorsed the idea of time travel as conceivably being possible in the future.

But, as I went through and perused the numerous archived postings of John Titor, I was amazed by just how cogent and lucid he was in the manner in which he articulated his thoughts, objectives, concerns and even his rationale for posting. His writings (in my opinion) did not portray him as an individual having an ignoble agenda nor did it render him as a person who was even possibly unstable mentally. On the contrary, he was very coherent with the limited information he had made available regarding how time travel is/was achieved. He even went as far as to post a number of photos so that we would have the opportunity to view the mechanism of time machine itself (along with a few pages from its operation manual as well).

What he had revealed about the technology that would essentially be responsible for advancing the achievability of time travel, actually sounded plausible. And as for the pictures of his time machine, it is indeed credible to believe that this device was designed and assembled from specs that were provided by the military. (I once worked for an aerospace company, which held several contractual obligations with the U.S. Air force).

However, it was three events, in particular, that had occurred during 2005, which had the greatest influence on changing my perspective about time travel. The first was what I had observed for myself on July 26, in the very early morning hours (somewhere between 2 and 3 AM).

It was through my living room window that I personally witnessed a small isolated region in the skyline to the west having an unusual cast to its appearance that seemed strangely and unusually distorted, as though it were shimmering or rippling and slightly illuminated within. I wasn’t sure if this was actually the case or if it was nothing more than the peculiar way in which the streetlights were being reflected onto the pane of the window. And in relationship to where I stood it appeared directly in line to my own position.

To confirm what I was actually witnessing I had decided to turn off all of the lights as a provisional means of avoiding any potential glare or unusual reflection. I then retrieved my binoculars so I would be better able to observe this anomaly more closely. And undeniably it was rippling. (I had also viewed this same strange distortion from a second west-facing window as well).

In addition, it was within this undulating distortion, that I noted there was a detectable central point fixed to the earth. And it was from this focal point that this delineated movement of distortion was being generated and traversed outward in an arcing configuration.

It was from this subtle illuminated configuration that I observed an additional feature; the faint visage of arcing lines that were progressing in magnitude as they traveled in a corresponding manner within this rippled distortion. I remembered that John Titor had given a description of what you would witness during such an event. But he did not mention the arcing lines within this distortion.

I have never observed anything remotely close to what I had seen that morning, nor have I since. I’m not actually sure we even possess the knowledge to exploit this type of technology. And, if we did, for what intended purpose is it being used for, especially here in the city.

As for the location in which it took place, I think it would be better not to disclose it publicly.

I understand that there is videotape of Johns departure. And I understand it (or a copy of it) had been released to another individual(s). I personally have never seen the videotape and would be interested to know if there is a website were I could view it. It’s important to me to know if the distortion I witnessed reflects what is shown on the videotape.

There were additional events, and an encounter, that have taken place but this too I will keep to myself for now.

I don’t expect anyone to believe me, nor do I want anything from anybody, I just wanted to let someone know what I had personally witnessed.

P.S. First, I want to thank Qronos 16 for posting for me. I am unable to post for myself. Each attempt I make to post I receive an error message saying that I am using an invalid post.

Second, this is a copy of what I had posted to a different forum a couple of months ago in regards to a part of what I had witnessed and experienced. I have ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that time travel is occurring on our world line! And you really need to heed the warnings, because we are heading in that direction. If I were able to post I would gladly debate this issue. Since I am a member of this forum and capable of sending private messages, why are my posts not valid?

Once again, I wish to thank Qronos 16 for being considerate and helping me out.

Thank you,

June 22, 2006

Gnostic

Don't forget your gas can!

 
Who ever started the idea that we could turn fiction into fact? Must be witches, right? Incantations and spells are now called theories. Pay attention to what you are urged to believe. Some of it is just down right hilarious.
There has been a lot of "science" formed fact out of whole-cloth fiction. Time travel and Gray Aliens being the most obvious to me. Neither has been proven any more definitively than any story from the bible, Koran or (whatever tome the stories of the hindus are contained in etc) yet these two "sciences" exist in our modern day-to-day damn near as facts. We created both out of our imaginations, potentially not unlike religion, and either believed or wanted to believe in both so deeply they have become unto fact in our current lives.
Polar political and theological opposites Jimmy Carter and Ronald Regan both believed in UFOs, our astronauts almost all believe in UFOs with the exception of very few, that's gotta give it some kind of credence, right? NASA, SETI, the USAF, RAF and the Soviet fly-people, whatever their air force is called, all have dedicated organizations with the simple goal to study UFOs and none, so far as we know, has found any.

Me personally, not unlike Fox Mulder, I still want to believe but Im a scientific agnostic on the point: I cant just believe it on base faith.

Time travel as well has become a scientifically plausible yet completely impossible staple in our science fiction. Even science fiction grounded mainly in factual possibility - Star Trek - has both time travel and little green aliens in abundance and its accepted as the most realistically plausible of all science fictions.

So ponder this:

If there ever were aliens someone would have more than a fuzzy photo by now and if time travel is ever going to exist then it would have to exist right now because, after all, it IS time travel. If time travel will ever exist then it will have to have always existed and since it doesn't exist right now then it will never exist, get it?

And if time travel will ever exist then aliens have to exist as well because at some point humans will have gone far enough out to the universe to become the aliens, interact with the (time travel device?) and then come back to where it all started as the "aliens".

And in the entire, entire, ENTIRE existence of time (to which a true time traveler would have access) someone somewhere will accidentally or on purpose slip up and divulge the secret- that HAS to happen unless the Bush family is running the program. Since that has not yet happened then it will never happen. It cant because if it does then it will always have and since it doesn't then it never will.

Whats this got to do with religion, you ask? Not a damn thing because I digressed so dramatically off my original line of thought I forgot where I was taking this.

I said good day, sir.

 
My original name was iceblue on this forum.

They (TT’s) have maintained a unique form of contact with me over the years. One method has been through my electric devices. When they use this method they always leave a signature indicating who sent it. They are extremely clever.

Gnostic

Don’t forget your gas can!

 
My original name was iceblue on this forum.They (TT’s) have maintained a unique form of contact with me over the years. One method has been through my electric devices. When they use this method they always leave a signature indicating who sent it. They are extremely clever.
So then there is "paper trail" where you have indisputable proof that can be photographed/screencapped/replicated in some way and posted here on this forum, right?
We're all waiting on baited breath...

 
There has been a lot of "science" formed fact out of whole-cloth fiction. Time travel and Gray Aliens being the most obvious to me. Neither has been proven any more definitively than any story from the bible, Koran or (whatever tome the stories of the hindus are contained in etc) yet these two "sciences" exist in our modern day-to-day damn near as facts. We created both out of our imaginations, potentially not unlike religion, and either believed or wanted to believe in both so deeply they have become unto fact in our current lives.Polar political and theological opposites Jimmy Carter and Ronald Regan both believed in UFOs, our astronauts almost all believe in UFOs with the exception of very few, that's gotta give it some kind of credence, right? NASA, SETI, the USAF, RAF and the Soviet fly-people, whatever their air force is called, all have dedicated organizations with the simple goal to study UFOs and none, so far as we know, has found any.
Me personally, not unlike Fox Mulder, I still want to believe but Im a scientific agnostic on the point: I cant just believe it on base faith.

Time travel as well has become a scientifically plausible yet completely impossible staple in our science fiction. Even science fiction grounded mainly in factual possibility - Star Trek - has both time travel and little green aliens in abundance and its accepted as the most realistically plausible of all science fictions.

So ponder this:

If there ever were aliens someone would have more than a fuzzy photo by now and if time travel is ever going to exist then it would have to exist right now because, after all, it IS time travel. If time travel will ever exist then it will have to have always existed and since it doesn't exist right now then it will never exist, get it?

And if time travel will ever exist then aliens have to exist as well because at some point humans will have gone far enough out to the universe to become the aliens, interact with the (time travel device?) and then come back to where it all started as the "aliens".

And in the entire, entire, ENTIRE existence of time (to which a true time traveler would have access) someone somewhere will accidentally or on purpose slip up and divulge the secret- that HAS to happen unless the Bush family is running the program. Since that has not yet happened then it will never happen. It cant because if it does then it will always have and since it doesn't then it never will.

Whats this got to do with religion, you ask? Not a damn thing because I digressed so dramatically off my original line of thought I forgot where I was taking this.

I said good day, sir.
If you want some hardcore proof that Aliens exist, then check out Roger Lear:


As for time travel? I've come across the Madman Marcum story that has me going. Much better that the John Titor story. Due to the fact that the John Titor story has a few elements in the story that have been shown to be hoaxed.

 
@Einstein I'd be interested in seeing you start a Madman Marcum thread ;) I haven't looked in to the guy for years and years - I was absolutely fascinated by it when I listened to Art Bell though.

 
So then there is "paper trail" where you have indisputable proof that can be photographed/screencapped/replicated in some way and posted here on this forum, right?We're all waiting on baited breath...
Actually, I do have one item of proof I'm willing to share. It's already in the public domain.
This appeared on my Earthquake app. in 2013. This date was on every single push pin. It appeared for only a day.

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This is only one photo.[DOUBLEPOST=1411671371][/DOUBLEPOST]It’s not my intention to prove to anyone that ‘Time Travelers’ exist. For me personally, I know without a shadow of a doubt that they do. But, let me remind all of you that this is my truth. I’m not here to convert anyone. I’m here to warn you and hopefully, wake you up. I’m the messenger!

Gnostic

Don’t forget your gas can![DOUBLEPOST=1411672434,1411671224][/DOUBLEPOST]One quick note, the date: Monday, January 18, 2038, is a signature telling me whom it’s from. You have to know how to interpret it.

 
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