John Titor ______________ AKA "JT" EXPOSED..
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Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
Creedo,
The more I read of your posts, the more I read into them. At first I thought that you where crazy, but then I realised that you are hiding a lot of intelligence in the 'I sound crazy' way that you write.
I am sure that you are telling us something, I am just not sure what, and I am also sure that if I take the time to re-read your posts I may be able to figure it all out.
Some of what you say is ringing alarm bells for me, some of what you say makes me laugh, over bits I do not understand at all.
Hetrz,
You are obviously on a mission, and I would love to know what it is you have found, sadly I am sure that the evidence is staring us in the face, just that we are not able to see it, because we are blind to it, for one reason or another.
I am not sure of your motives - other than fame as the person that finally debunked it - and I am not sure of your methods, they seem a little sensationalist to me, but I would guess that you have your reasons, and I would guess that you have a personal involvement somewhere along the line that is leading to bitterness, and hence a desire to 'out' JT.
Please present your findings so far, so that we can at least discuss them, and at minimum help you to verify your thoughts ?
Creedo,
The more I read of your posts, the more I read into them. At first I thought that you where crazy, but then I realised that you are hiding a lot of intelligence in the 'I sound crazy' way that you write.
I am sure that you are telling us something, I am just not sure what, and I am also sure that if I take the time to re-read your posts I may be able to figure it all out.
Some of what you say is ringing alarm bells for me, some of what you say makes me laugh, over bits I do not understand at all.
Hetrz,
You are obviously on a mission, and I would love to know what it is you have found, sadly I am sure that the evidence is staring us in the face, just that we are not able to see it, because we are blind to it, for one reason or another.
I am not sure of your motives - other than fame as the person that finally debunked it - and I am not sure of your methods, they seem a little sensationalist to me, but I would guess that you have your reasons, and I would guess that you have a personal involvement somewhere along the line that is leading to bitterness, and hence a desire to 'out' JT.
Please present your findings so far, so that we can at least discuss them, and at minimum help you to verify your thoughts ?
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
Lets say i wasted a lot of "TIME" making phony time machines that did not work.
and to see someone "PROFIT" from a fake story kills me!
There are many way's to "PROFIT" from a false claim.
creedo299 has been an eye opener, his post's are very thought out as he knows what is going on.
Lets say i wasted a lot of "TIME" making phony time machines that did not work.
and to see someone "PROFIT" from a fake story kills me!
There are many way's to "PROFIT" from a false claim.
creedo299 has been an eye opener, his post's are very thought out as he knows what is going on.
green_slash
Temporal Novice
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
Enough drum rolls please. Well suppossedly you PM Pamela questions about John Titor. lol. When is your planned date to prove this story false. When will the drummer shut up? Thank you. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Enough drum rolls please. Well suppossedly you PM Pamela questions about John Titor. lol. When is your planned date to prove this story false. When will the drummer shut up? Thank you. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Roel van Houten
Quantum Scribe
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
Yeah, Hertz... spit it out. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Yeah, Hertz... spit it out. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
creedo299
Epochal Historian
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
He will in time.
Please understand Rick Donaldson over at Anomalies, is very quickly coming forth that this said time displacement unit, is infact something else.
So it seems what Hertz is doing, is letting the proof of this being a possible hoax, in the hands of Donaldson himself?
He will in time.
Please understand Rick Donaldson over at Anomalies, is very quickly coming forth that this said time displacement unit, is infact something else.
So it seems what Hertz is doing, is letting the proof of this being a possible hoax, in the hands of Donaldson himself?
creedo299
Epochal Historian
Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz
You kind-of wanted the truth and why things are as they are today?
All I can do here is give this to you.
According to proof offered by <a href="http://www.damenhur.org" target="_blank">www.damenhur.org</a>, which I don't know if it's in business anymore, the western metropolis city of Atlantis, was almost as big as New York.
This city was built on concentric circles, was modern.Had plumbing and self contained power sources.
The had immense statues of warriors, that were as tall as skyscrapers and if you went up in this statures, you could see for fifty miles, depending on weather.
There were also flying vehicles, of every description held in the air.Some from Atlantis itself, some, from other planetary systems.
How things got bad and how we relate to this follows.
Atlantis was supposed have had a war with the nearby planet known as Maldeck.
Atlantis had won, however a comet had struck the western part of Atlantis, so puncturing the giant gas filled caverns that Atlantis was built on.
This continent sunk in one days time.
Other things that Atlantis had done, was to war with the Raman Empire in India, which it had nuked.
Again the high priest became incensed at this action and conjured as told in Bullfinche's Occult And Mythical Creatures, both weirwolf and vampire plagues, to strike in Europe, in the middle ages and after that.
Believe it or not, things were equally as bad for the vampires, as not only socially were they under stress, but they began having children partially composed of humans, as this is how the vampire virus worked.
They wanted a better standard for their children and there is evidence of them recently genetically engineering.
They are the other group, that also wants to set things straight.
Please understand that the comet strike to Atlantis, may have been known ahead of time? So the highly placed Atlantians may have sought refuge from the destruction of this comet, in underwater buildings, that would not breach water in, as the rest of Atlantis had sunk.
What mounts on the Atlantians is one, the destruction of the peaceful Raman Empire and two, the destruction of their own society by a comet and probably not warning the population in time?
Time had passed and what seems to occur every so many hundreds of years, are both genocides to thin the population ans wars, which seem to be planned.
The last series of genocides started in Armenia around the first world war, then in Germany during the second to the Poles, Gypsies and Jews.
This was to thin population, over an insane ideal, that there was both genetically defective peoples as well as subversives.
These actions, as well as genetic inferiority in some segments of the population.
Mind you now, that the Atlantians never said they were sorry for the nuking of the Raman Empire.So there is a karmic deficit there.
The Atlantians married into outlying civilizations such as in South and middle Americas, Europe and other places.
So the Atlantian gene is very well established on this globe.
This stance now brings us to this modern time that we are in and some of those in power, carry the descendent Atlantian gene.
The problem is, that nobody ever made repartitions for the wrong doing of Atlantis.
I said that I was sorry, this may or may not have fallen on deaf ears.
In the U.S. if a plan is being made to once again euthanize its people; this, regardless if this is by subversive alien influce or not, because of the past karmic damage caused by the Atlantians, if they take such actions again, then they more than likely will be banished from trade in space.
This is the one major flaw in the planned euthanasia of part of the population, if the tale being spun by said John Titor is true.
Once this is done, then all of the sons and daughters of those who are now holding power here on Earth, will be forevermore banished from offworld acceptance and be sentenced to Earth, forever.
The only new contacts we have had outside of the American Natives, as a new Thanksgiving, are the Grays Hybrids of Mars.
There is only one set of these beings, who have visited here for two reason.
The first one, was to ask a Midwest farmer for a sack of manure, as they did not understand how to gow things on Mars.Ronald Story's Encyclopedia Of UFOs says this happenstance in record.
The other was to capture an Earth woman and to keep here in a large plastic bubble for a period of seven years then to return her back to Earth unharmed.
The translation from this is; "Yes we might want to get along with you, however we are not like the Indians you once had duped. So keep respect in any of your attempted dealings with us"?
If because of the need of projected euthanasia over being allowed to establish a worthy deepspace program is allowed, then the karmic principle of overlap will have occurred and those in power, expressly their offspring, will suffer from a wrath, that is ten fold over what other relations in others times have suffered.
You had wanted the truth Hertz?... Then this is the truth.
The Pleiadean Atlantians of the Billy Meier landings, would not come out with any of their past relations to Atlantis, in detail.
This was so, as the continent of Atlantis and those in power, are still registered as war criminals.
There have been exterminations of said German citizens after the war, by a highly placed American official, in order for our soldiers to get a taste for mass genocide,.
I would not equate accustoming, to success, if the price to be paid, was the freedom and spiritual welfare, of my own children.
Deloris Cannon and projected this horrible happenstance to come, in one of her future based books.
Decedents of the Atlantians by Charles Berlitz, the writer, are said to still inhabit one of these special a undweater areas, near the Biminni Islands off the coast of Florida.
:oops:
You kind-of wanted the truth and why things are as they are today?
All I can do here is give this to you.
According to proof offered by <a href="http://www.damenhur.org" target="_blank">www.damenhur.org</a>, which I don't know if it's in business anymore, the western metropolis city of Atlantis, was almost as big as New York.
This city was built on concentric circles, was modern.Had plumbing and self contained power sources.
The had immense statues of warriors, that were as tall as skyscrapers and if you went up in this statures, you could see for fifty miles, depending on weather.
There were also flying vehicles, of every description held in the air.Some from Atlantis itself, some, from other planetary systems.
How things got bad and how we relate to this follows.
Atlantis was supposed have had a war with the nearby planet known as Maldeck.
Atlantis had won, however a comet had struck the western part of Atlantis, so puncturing the giant gas filled caverns that Atlantis was built on.
This continent sunk in one days time.
Other things that Atlantis had done, was to war with the Raman Empire in India, which it had nuked.
Again the high priest became incensed at this action and conjured as told in Bullfinche's Occult And Mythical Creatures, both weirwolf and vampire plagues, to strike in Europe, in the middle ages and after that.
Believe it or not, things were equally as bad for the vampires, as not only socially were they under stress, but they began having children partially composed of humans, as this is how the vampire virus worked.
They wanted a better standard for their children and there is evidence of them recently genetically engineering.
They are the other group, that also wants to set things straight.
Please understand that the comet strike to Atlantis, may have been known ahead of time? So the highly placed Atlantians may have sought refuge from the destruction of this comet, in underwater buildings, that would not breach water in, as the rest of Atlantis had sunk.
What mounts on the Atlantians is one, the destruction of the peaceful Raman Empire and two, the destruction of their own society by a comet and probably not warning the population in time?
Time had passed and what seems to occur every so many hundreds of years, are both genocides to thin the population ans wars, which seem to be planned.
The last series of genocides started in Armenia around the first world war, then in Germany during the second to the Poles, Gypsies and Jews.
This was to thin population, over an insane ideal, that there was both genetically defective peoples as well as subversives.
These actions, as well as genetic inferiority in some segments of the population.
Mind you now, that the Atlantians never said they were sorry for the nuking of the Raman Empire.So there is a karmic deficit there.
The Atlantians married into outlying civilizations such as in South and middle Americas, Europe and other places.
So the Atlantian gene is very well established on this globe.
This stance now brings us to this modern time that we are in and some of those in power, carry the descendent Atlantian gene.
The problem is, that nobody ever made repartitions for the wrong doing of Atlantis.
I said that I was sorry, this may or may not have fallen on deaf ears.
In the U.S. if a plan is being made to once again euthanize its people; this, regardless if this is by subversive alien influce or not, because of the past karmic damage caused by the Atlantians, if they take such actions again, then they more than likely will be banished from trade in space.
This is the one major flaw in the planned euthanasia of part of the population, if the tale being spun by said John Titor is true.
Once this is done, then all of the sons and daughters of those who are now holding power here on Earth, will be forevermore banished from offworld acceptance and be sentenced to Earth, forever.
The only new contacts we have had outside of the American Natives, as a new Thanksgiving, are the Grays Hybrids of Mars.
There is only one set of these beings, who have visited here for two reason.
The first one, was to ask a Midwest farmer for a sack of manure, as they did not understand how to gow things on Mars.Ronald Story's Encyclopedia Of UFOs says this happenstance in record.
The other was to capture an Earth woman and to keep here in a large plastic bubble for a period of seven years then to return her back to Earth unharmed.
The translation from this is; "Yes we might want to get along with you, however we are not like the Indians you once had duped. So keep respect in any of your attempted dealings with us"?
If because of the need of projected euthanasia over being allowed to establish a worthy deepspace program is allowed, then the karmic principle of overlap will have occurred and those in power, expressly their offspring, will suffer from a wrath, that is ten fold over what other relations in others times have suffered.
You had wanted the truth Hertz?... Then this is the truth.
The Pleiadean Atlantians of the Billy Meier landings, would not come out with any of their past relations to Atlantis, in detail.
This was so, as the continent of Atlantis and those in power, are still registered as war criminals.
There have been exterminations of said German citizens after the war, by a highly placed American official, in order for our soldiers to get a taste for mass genocide,.
I would not equate accustoming, to success, if the price to be paid, was the freedom and spiritual welfare, of my own children.
Deloris Cannon and projected this horrible happenstance to come, in one of her future based books.
Decedents of the Atlantians by Charles Berlitz, the writer, are said to still inhabit one of these special a undweater areas, near the Biminni Islands off the coast of Florida.
:oops:
Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz
That was a lot to read.. interesting disection. the url was gone for www.damenhur.org
Think your post is correct.
That was a lot to read.. interesting disection. the url was gone for www.damenhur.org
Think your post is correct.
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz
I think I will take the "not" option with respect to your offer of belief. This is quite a long story you have spun here, Creedo. Do you have any sort of objective proof of these wild yarns? If not, then perhaps they belong under the new "Fan Fiction Forum".
So which part of your disjointed tale do you consider "truth"? And once again, the concept of "truth" traditionally requires some (usually more than one) form of objective proof. But maybe I am just thinking "old school"...
Mmmmmm....most interesting! Perhaps these Grays are the ones who sabotaged our latest NASA Spirit rover, eh? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif If so, they will soon have an "Opportunity" to really show us what they are made of! :eek:
Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
I think I will take the "not" option with respect to your offer of belief. This is quite a long story you have spun here, Creedo. Do you have any sort of objective proof of these wild yarns? If not, then perhaps they belong under the new "Fan Fiction Forum".
So which part of your disjointed tale do you consider "truth"? And once again, the concept of "truth" traditionally requires some (usually more than one) form of objective proof. But maybe I am just thinking "old school"...
Mmmmmm....most interesting! Perhaps these Grays are the ones who sabotaged our latest NASA Spirit rover, eh? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif If so, they will soon have an "Opportunity" to really show us what they are made of! :eek:
Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: John Titor ,_________ Re; to Hertz
Hello Hertz:
Do you have any children? Perhaps named Mega and Giga? :D
Hmmmm. I'm not very good with cryptic messages, as I am a left-brainer. Perhaps you or Creedo could simply spell-out the message? I think this might help others on the board who are also trying to understand some of what Creedo goes on about.
Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
Hello Hertz:
Do you have any children? Perhaps named Mega and Giga? :D
Hmmmm. I'm not very good with cryptic messages, as I am a left-brainer. Perhaps you or Creedo could simply spell-out the message? I think this might help others on the board who are also trying to understand some of what Creedo goes on about.
Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
So i guess u know about Alexander, Hertz.
Ole' Alex is obviously a fake.
Tell us what you know about JT, I dont like imposters.
And one more thing, you and Creedo are not making any sense. Your writing is confusing (i am referring to the last posts).
Try to write a bit clearer, will ya?
So i guess u know about Alexander, Hertz.
Ole' Alex is obviously a fake.
Tell us what you know about JT, I dont like imposters.
And one more thing, you and Creedo are not making any sense. Your writing is confusing (i am referring to the last posts).
Try to write a bit clearer, will ya?
creedo299
Epochal Historian
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
No Imen, I'm making perfect sense.
The reports of vampires being socialized enough, in order to make a coordinated attack on the military, were documented by the German High Command in the 1930s.
This was a report smuggled out by a Czech worker, who made sure the reports got to the west.
What is known from reports on the clans of German vampires, is that they posses an I.Q. in the areas of 250 to 500.
This pars with most advanced aliens, good or bad.
So from the 30s on, you figure the rest.
They could procreate, so had children and parents want better for their children, so......?
Other aspects, are well mentioned in Earth The Pleiadean Keys by Barbara Marciniack, on Karmic debt and how any one civilization reaps what they do, with reference to later generations.
I don't care whether you like me or believe me, or what I have said suits with your beliefs system.
These factors do bear, so you might want to get your nose out of the air and pick up a book and read?
No Imen, I'm making perfect sense.
The reports of vampires being socialized enough, in order to make a coordinated attack on the military, were documented by the German High Command in the 1930s.
This was a report smuggled out by a Czech worker, who made sure the reports got to the west.
What is known from reports on the clans of German vampires, is that they posses an I.Q. in the areas of 250 to 500.
This pars with most advanced aliens, good or bad.
So from the 30s on, you figure the rest.
They could procreate, so had children and parents want better for their children, so......?
Other aspects, are well mentioned in Earth The Pleiadean Keys by Barbara Marciniack, on Karmic debt and how any one civilization reaps what they do, with reference to later generations.
I don't care whether you like me or believe me, or what I have said suits with your beliefs system.
These factors do bear, so you might want to get your nose out of the air and pick up a book and read?
Roel van Houten
Quantum Scribe
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
Creedo... really, what you write doesn't make any sense to errr.. leftbrainers as RainmanTime calls us. It's incoherent, cryptic and often incomprehensible. Perhaps there's a lot of truly interesting and relevant information in your posts, but unfortunately it's not getting through.
Creedo... really, what you write doesn't make any sense to errr.. leftbrainers as RainmanTime calls us. It's incoherent, cryptic and often incomprehensible. Perhaps there's a lot of truly interesting and relevant information in your posts, but unfortunately it's not getting through.
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
Creedo,
Maybe in some other reality, but not in the one commonly accepted by most of humanity. And besides that, I think your head it a bit too big.
Your writings, in the form of disconnected statements, seem to be trying to reach the level of this web page. Unfortunately, you have a long way to go before you reach this level of clarity and sophistication. I don't accept everything on the quoted Revelatorium site, but it does make some very salient points about accepted human belief systems, handed down thru the ages.
Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
Creedo,
Maybe in some other reality, but not in the one commonly accepted by most of humanity. And besides that, I think your head it a bit too big.
Your writings, in the form of disconnected statements, seem to be trying to reach the level of this web page. Unfortunately, you have a long way to go before you reach this level of clarity and sophistication. I don't accept everything on the quoted Revelatorium site, but it does make some very salient points about accepted human belief systems, handed down thru the ages.
Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
A lot of Creedo's post's that I've read seem to be based on new age spiritual belief's. It would help him get his point across if he didn't assume that everybody knows or understands what he is talking about.
And if he just refuses to try and explain himself in an easier to understand way, that just shows him to be extremely ignorant of other people and not as "enlightened" as he would have some believe....
A lot of Creedo's post's that I've read seem to be based on new age spiritual belief's. It would help him get his point across if he didn't assume that everybody knows or understands what he is talking about.
And if he just refuses to try and explain himself in an easier to understand way, that just shows him to be extremely ignorant of other people and not as "enlightened" as he would have some believe....
creedo299
Epochal Historian
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
In this thread what this group has shown, is limited intelligence.
In order to survive, you have to be educated of the variables, not combat them.
No' I'm not new age.
Hold precepts of Marciniack's book only, but not new age.
2.Pot shots at another poster, do not make the academic grade, with reference to understanding what is going on.
What is of importants here, is understanding any and or most of time travel technologies.
3.Why I had posted what I did you Hertz, was to demonstrate my honesty, not any belief systems.
Take the example of Holland and the Netherlands.I might say that it is preposterous that anyone could conceivably live below sea level and this is either a hoax, or a sign of low self esteem.
If people in Holland Brussels and this area respected themselves well of course they would send for loads of dirt, in order to rise their level, above the sea.
What are those people in Holland trying to prove, with a stunt saying they are below sea level?
See what I mean, just because you people in this thread can't sit down with a book, take the time and read what I have said, does not mean that this does not exist?
The point I was trying to make, is that in this time frame, over the period of twenty to fifty years ago, events have changed.
So all prospective groups now have a divvy in the pie, for other purposes.
Everything in my last post, was necessary to say.
If you want to berate me like a bunch of kindergartners, then do so. Make doubly sure you understand the content of what I'm saying, by your own research levels.
Most of you, probably did not follow the logic of the post I put down or even tried to use both web sources and or diagram what I had said?
Therefore any retort in the negative to berate me, only undercuts your own position, as your personal view, not research has come forward to the post.
I really don't care what you think of me?
New age to me, is about a rediculous a term, as the MOP here wearing a baby bonnet?!
It does not match.
I'm not going to explain myself further, if you can't use book source and web sources when they are offered; then sit in ignorance!?
In this thread what this group has shown, is limited intelligence.
In order to survive, you have to be educated of the variables, not combat them.
No' I'm not new age.
Hold precepts of Marciniack's book only, but not new age.
2.Pot shots at another poster, do not make the academic grade, with reference to understanding what is going on.
What is of importants here, is understanding any and or most of time travel technologies.
3.Why I had posted what I did you Hertz, was to demonstrate my honesty, not any belief systems.
Take the example of Holland and the Netherlands.I might say that it is preposterous that anyone could conceivably live below sea level and this is either a hoax, or a sign of low self esteem.
If people in Holland Brussels and this area respected themselves well of course they would send for loads of dirt, in order to rise their level, above the sea.
What are those people in Holland trying to prove, with a stunt saying they are below sea level?
See what I mean, just because you people in this thread can't sit down with a book, take the time and read what I have said, does not mean that this does not exist?
The point I was trying to make, is that in this time frame, over the period of twenty to fifty years ago, events have changed.
So all prospective groups now have a divvy in the pie, for other purposes.
Everything in my last post, was necessary to say.
If you want to berate me like a bunch of kindergartners, then do so. Make doubly sure you understand the content of what I'm saying, by your own research levels.
Most of you, probably did not follow the logic of the post I put down or even tried to use both web sources and or diagram what I had said?
Therefore any retort in the negative to berate me, only undercuts your own position, as your personal view, not research has come forward to the post.
I really don't care what you think of me?
New age to me, is about a rediculous a term, as the MOP here wearing a baby bonnet?!
It does not match.
I'm not going to explain myself further, if you can't use book source and web sources when they are offered; then sit in ignorance!?
Re: John Titor ______________ AKA \"JT\" EXPOSED..
I think the posts show better taste then other phony stories i have read.
creedo299 posts are possibly correct as they are very neat concepts.
Makes for good reading.
creedo299 you have to make them a bit less hard to understand as you do jump from topic to topic a bit, but it is all good. :D
I think the posts show better taste then other phony stories i have read.
creedo299 posts are possibly correct as they are very neat concepts.
Makes for good reading.
creedo299 you have to make them a bit less hard to understand as you do jump from topic to topic a bit, but it is all good. :D