Hello, This is an interesting worldline.

Bruse,

One question:

You seem to be posting from Washington but you say that you're staying with your great-uncle in West Virginia. Is this actually Jenny, aka HDRKid?

Darby,

I assure you I am in West Virginia. Perhaps the ISP I am using is rerouting through Washington.

You would think cloaked IP's would be known to them?
Can you help us identify this plant?

wa1ex,

I have no desire to cloak my IP. I really could care less who can see my IP.

The image you have posted apears to be a work of art and not an image used for identification purposes. An image used for identification is detailed and and indicates the relative size of the plant to the drawing (IE: 2/3, 1/2, etc...)

If there is no reply after Darbys comment,

Then old 'bruce' - might have really landed himself in it.

OllyB,

I see that patientce is NOT a virtue in this worldline. Does it ever occur to you that I'm not sitting hear reading this forum all the time. If you must know I was catologing some of what I have collected. I will be replying to Darby's questions shortly.
 
The picture posted is way older than you think. (not photoshoped)

Im surprised you havent seen it, since it is a mystery in the Botanics field.....relative to this worldline in 2006.
 
Darby,

Yes, I know that seeds have several modes of transport. You should recognize that a large number of species do infact disperse their seeds near themselves. I do know that all the seeds I am collecting will not grow up into a tree elseware because none of what I am collecting are trees. Trees are not herbs and forbs which I indicated earlier as what I am collecting. You are right that I can not know exactly which seeds I have collected would actually sprout. However, since the areas I am collecting from are areas where the earth is going to be disturbed by construction and strip mining there is a high probability that none of the seeds I have collected would actually sprout. I don't ever recall a seed of the Spring Avens sprouting through concrete. Most of the seeds I am collecting are typically dispersed within a few meters from the parent plant and there are no nearby sources of water to carry any of the seeds.

I do understand what things can be used to calculate divergence. And you are correct I can not describe this area nor my own completly by 'metric description' anymore than you can, but I do make a note of the geographic co-ordinates where I collect seeds from. An initial level of divergence was calculated by the processors on my device upon arival. There are obviously things that will raise the divergence such as, my being here and the actions I take while I am here. Would you rather I collect seeds from areas slated for strip mining and construction where there is a reasonable expetation that most of the seeds would not survive or would you rather I take them from a National Forest where it is expected that most of the seeds would sprout?

I do know somewhat more of how to describe the area I am in and where I was from "metricly." Some of the items I brought with me were maps. I have even used the map I was given by our archives of 2006 to compare with one my great-uncle has of 2006. I can tell you that right now that I am 392 meters above mean sea level. I could also tell you my exact location to the nearest milisecond, but I am not going to post my co-ordinates because I don't want hordes of people showing up here (provided they can read a map and find co-ordinates).


I have told you previously that divergence is the amount of difference between two worldlines. In this case this 2006 worldline and the 2006 from my worldline. I have also told you how my actions would minimize further divergence. An initial level of divergence was calculated by the processors on my device upon arival. There are obviously things that will raise the divergence between two worlds such as, my being here and the actions I take while I am here. If I were to murder an important person who was not murdered in 2006 in my worldline it is rather obvious that my action would create more divergence between the two worldlines. Let me ask you a question. Would you rather I collect seeds from areas slated for strip mining and construction where there is a reasonable expetation that most of the seeds would not survive or would you rather I take them from a National Forest where it is expected that most of the seeds would sprout? If I were to take seeds from an area where it is expected they would sprout, such as a National Forest, then by taking them I will raise the divergence between the two worldlines. I can not help it if you fail to understand the concept.

In regard to your question about genealogy. We are not talking about just a few years, if a generation occurs every 35 years then 3 generations would be 105 years. 105 years from 2047 is 1942. As I indicated earlier, most do know their genealogy upto 3 generations (their great-grandparents). Do you know who your great-great grandparednts were? Do you have a record of your family tree back to say 1600? I have previously explained that most genealogical data is stored on internet servers and computer databases. Since most internet servers, mainframes, databases, etc... were destroyed then so were the genealogy records. I am currently retreiving data from Rootsweb which I will take back with me. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand. Re-read the 6th post of this thread! If people can't bother to actually read the posts, which I am begining to think people in this worldline can't do, I'm not going to endlessly repeat myself.
 
Wa1ex,

When I saw it I thought it had to be several hundred years old. The tubers apear like nothing I have ever seen on a plant. Actually they look like staph bacteria under high magnification. The flowers resemble a sunflower, but oblong. The palmate leaves are strange, I can't remember the name of the plant they resemble.
 
Bruce do you have a picture of the Time Machine?? a blueprint of it...why not put them in putfile.com or if you can look it up I await to see if you are truely telling the truth so write back.
 
Warrior381,

Thanks, I'm working on getting images up. I just signed up for a free website. Actually it will be interesting to see if it is still up when I get back. http://www.freewebs.com/bruce2047/ There isn't anything there right now except the couple images below.

I have with me from my worldline topographical maps from 2006, a world atlas from 2047, an instruction manuel for the "time machine" and a few personal photos.

Here are my first two images:

map01b-1.JPG


This first image is a portion of a 2006 topographical map which was copied from our National Archive for use on my trip. The Quad name is blacked out for my protection.

map01a-1.JPG


The second image is the same portion of a 2006 topographical from this worldline that my great-uncle is letting me use (I'm trying to coax him into letting me take it with me).
 
Hmm.. I think this would be a time traveling job *I* would be interested in.
Go to other worldlines to collect seeds. It would also be interesting if you
were able to observe some plants that did not exist on your own worldline.
I think the collection of new and interesting aquatic life and animal life
would be interesting as well. Especially if they differed slightly between
worldlines. I am sure you would find different microscopic life as well.
You could spend your whole life hopping between worlds and studying the never
before seen different life forms and plants as well as repopulating ones that
went extinct with war or other disasters.
If he is not a real time traveler it is an interesting concept and very creative
different approach. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

The down side would be you might bring back something that would cause strange
cross breeding, unexpected genetic errors or disease in your new worldline that was not expected.

But if you were just going to a low divergance line ..hey..I think it would be fun and interesting
and a pretty easy job to boot. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Bruce,
As an old gold prospector who used topographic maps quite a bit, the one you say is from your world-line has some interesting features. Having seen hundreds of topographic maps...I can tell that the one you claim to be from a different world line has been altered from the way it was first printed.

How come the ink in the "different" road lines is different than the ink quality of the ones printed as they appear on the rest of the map. Ink them in yourself?

Connect the dots...?

And if one really studies the topography, one would notice there were reasons why some portions roadway(s) were NOT built where you placed them.

For proof of what you claim, you need to do better than using an altered topo map.

As I have told others that have made the claim as you have...I dont want to be mean, or considered rude...however, since YOU made the claim...the burden of proof is on YOU.

And as I also mentioned before...I DO want to believe you, but won't do so just because you make the claim.

You do seem to have quite a bit of knowledge regarding botany, but as far as being from a different world...well...an altered topo map doesnt really support THAT claim.
 
OllyB,

I see that patientce is NOT a virtue in this worldline

'Patientce'? regarding the subject matter that you play around with...perhaps you confuse Directness with impatience?

Does it ever occur to you that I'm not sitting hear reading this forum all the time

yes, but you replied within a few days....which was my point. No reply after extended periods, usually means you've 'quit'. Congrats! you havent...yet.

If you must know I was catologing some of what I have collected. I will be replying to Darby's questions shortly

No i did not need/want to know this. Its unfortunate that you have nothing i need to learn from you. My main goal is to make sure that you play fair (evidence-wise), and not fool others on here that are desparate to believe and who WILL fall into the 'trap'. People are free to make up their own minds. But you should give them evidence to do so in an informed manner.

Seeing as you are yet ANOTHER time traveler that just so happens to be on a private mission and 'ironically' yet ANOTHER one that has limited understanding of how he got here. Your current status - is You are yet ANOTHER to add to the collective junk pile! Do you see how it works?

Unless you actually thought harping on about your "WW3" was going to be enough to get you by /ttiforum/images/graemlins/yum.gif?

Kind regards,
Olly
 
Yo Bruce!, Welcome to timeline 39.
Still in your timeline a Ginko Biloba L. Salisburia Adiantifolia Smith?
The Ginkgo is a living fossil, with fossils recognisably related to modern Ginkgo from the Permian, dating back 270 million years. They diversified and spread throughout Laurasia during the middle Jurassic and Cretaceous, but became much rarer thereafter. By the Paleocene, Ginkgo adiantoides was the only Ginkgo species left in the Northern Hemisphere...
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kwanten/
Please add these medicinal Tree to your list.

And This:
Cannabis Sativa, It is a dioecious, annual herb. It has been used by humans throughout recorded history for its fiber, for its psychological and physiological potential as a source of drug material, and for the nourishment and oil of its seeds. Different parts of the herb have different uses and different varieties are cultivated in different ways, and harvested at different times, depending on the purpose for which the herb is grown.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_sativa...
 
OvLrdLegion,

I know you are not trying to be mean. The topo map in question was not altered. I think the problem is that the map was produced in 1984 and revised in 2006. When an edition like 1984 is produced subsequent revisions before a new edition is released are based on aerial photography. The information is then printed in a different ink (usually dark purple) to show that the information has not been verified by ground based observation. Due to the aging of the document, copying from the original, and then subsequently copying it again to post on-line has probably darkened the already dark purple to a dark black.

I had asked my uncle about the roads in the area when I saw a man on a tractor grading the road behind us and he has said that the state government only maintains state and county roads. He also said that all other roads are maintained by the people who live on them and that the person on the tractor was grading the road he lives on and that everyone who lived on it pays this individual to maintain it. In any event I am inclined to believe him when he says that most of the roads of the area were made by the original property owners themselves and are named after the first family to build a farm there. I can see where the state government wouldn't build a road, but I can see where property owners would build one.

I do want to remind everyone that my intention is not to convince anyone, but to engage those who wish in a cultural exchange. I will be posting some images from the operations manual of the GMD C206B VGL 2.6 shortly.
 
Recall15,

Thank you for the information and the welcome. Yes, we have Ginko Biloba in my worldline. I always liked the interesting fan shaped leaves and when I was a child I would brush them against my cheek. The male plants are typically grown in parks and other public areas as they don't stink like the female ones. It is rather sad that it is the only surviving specimen of the genus Ginko. There are some females growing in the wild, but they are usually found in conservetories for breeding. I usually don't use Ginko Biloba in the university clinic where I am an herbalist two days a week. I typically use native alternatives instead. Though there are several I know who use it.

Cannabis Sativa is in my worldline also. It is prescribed as an appetite stimulant and mild sedative for pain. Many people grow a couple plants in their family gardens. It is far less dangerous than most of the "medications" I see in this worldline.

Feel free to send me a private message about other plants you think I should take with me. There are probably some that have medicinal uses that we don't know about.
 
"I will be posting some images from the operations manual of the GMD C206B VGL 2.6 shortly."

Wait a minute....a VGL system and a C206?
Are you claiming to know John Titor?
 
Pamela,

No, I'm not. Actually I only just learned of him a couple days ago. It sounds like he is from a similar worldline but not the same one as I am. My worldline has several distinct differences. If a version of him does exist in my worldine I don't know him and he would be in a different country anyway.
 
No, beans and rice are staple foods on my worldline as is corn, wheat, rye, chickpeas, and soybean. The only difference between those of this wordline and mine is that the plants of food crops have no genetic engineering and are not hybrids (they are species). I am collecting seeds of plants that have become extinct. Some of those I am collecting have medicinal properties. None of them are foodstuffs.
 
so you are 100% sure in your worldline that genetically pure beans are non-existing in your world line?
(100% pure means no human intervention...)
 
But of course, the obligatory user manual. I see you don't have the same number of people working with you as the titor group did. At least far less imaginative.

I'd rather view the "trouble shooting" pages - then the nonsense that you show here.

please put these up.

Kind regards,
Olly
 
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