I remember writing that... November 2003 if I remember correctly. So only 13 months and 17 days later, the Sumatra earthquake and resultant tidal wave that killed over a quarter of a million people is not considered extreme to you?
Very well, Charlie. I am perfectly happy to let you select which aspects of your Swiss Cheese story that is exposed first. You wanna talk about this, that is fine. You state you don't care if people don't believe you. Let's see if you can resist responding to my tearing your "prediction" claim apart, being that you don't care and all...
Let's go back to read exactly what you said first:
<font color="blue"> timeline_39 @ 11/23/2003: [/COLOR]As for something that will happen in the near future to validate who I am....... There is going to be an extreme earthquake on the Ring of Fire very soon. And when I say extreme, I mean extreme.
Emphasis mine. Now let me point out several facts and things to consider about what you said vs. your claim of a prediction:
1) You said "earthquake." You mentioned nothing of the tsunami you want to take credit for. That is what we call a simple fact, for it cannot be denied at all from a literal reading of your words.
2) You said "Ring of Fire". You were not specific of any area of the Ring of Fire, like Sumatra or even the general area of Indonesia, even though that is where tsunamis are most likely...but then again, you did not predict a tsunami and you did not predict in Indonesia. Another simple fact.
3) Predicting an aspecific earthquake, even an extreme one, on the giant belt of major earth fault zones known as the Ring of Fire is equivalent to shooting fish in a barrel. Precisely equivalent. Especially since you did not localize where on the Ring of Fire it would occur nor when because you used the slippery term "very soon". Here is a list of major earthquakes in the past years. Look at how many of the large ones are around the Ring of Fire:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/world/historical.php
4) In fact, look at the ten largest earthquakes since 1901... and you will notice that all but one of them cannot possibly be argued to be anywhere other than on the Ring of Fire.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0763403.html
Only the ninth largest could possibly be argued, depending on which specific map you use to define the extent of the Ring of Fire. The Tibet/China border area where that quake occurred is actually north of the northernmost volcano on the java trench fault as shown in this figure:
http://www.geography-site.co.uk/pages/physical/earth/images/rof.gif
5) So then let's turn to your prediction of it happening "very soon". I am sure you wish people to believe that, while you were writing in November of 2003, by "very soon" you meant on the order of a year or more, not a matter of months, or even days. Of course you would want people to believe that was your intended context for "very soon" because that would support your claim to have predicted the earthquake 13 months later. But what would a person who was around back then reading it have thought you meant by "very soon"? Especially when you also wrote this:
<font color="blue"> timeline_39 @ 11/24/2003: [/COLOR] As for my earthquake statement, you can work out where the earthquake is going to be by looking at trend data for the last month from the Atlantic Rift and various parts of the Pacific Ring of Fire. There is a pattern if you examine the data and work toward a date in between December and January.
6) Obviously to a person at that time you meant December and January in 2003, the year you were writing. But given you only showed up on the forum days before you wrote this, and were talking about leaving soon after trying to contact Titor, "very soon" would be in the coming months. You will likely, in your reply to me, claim that you really meant the following year's Dec/Jan. Post-dictum, as it were. But we know you did not really mean that, now don't we? We know you were predicting Dec/Jan 2003.
7) And again you are not specific on the location. Because not only do you invoke the entire Ring of Fire, and not identify "various parts" of it, but you also now include the Atlantic Rift as well! Why not just say earthquakes were happening all around the world in the month prior to Nov 2003?
8) And to be complete you told people to look for a trend. Well here are all the larger earthquakes in the timeframe you mentioned (from the first link above in reverse date order):
<font color="red"> 2004 01 28 - Seram, Indonesia - M 6.7
2004 01 07 - Wyoming - M 5.0
2003 12 27 - Southeast of the Loyalty Islands - M 7.3
2003 12 26 - Southeastern Iran - M 6.6 Fatalities 31,000
2003 12 22 - San Simeon, California - M 6.6 Fatalities 2
2003 12 10 - Taiwan - M 6.8
2003 12 09 - Virginia - M 4.5
2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova, Russia Region - M 6.7
2003 11 18 - Samar, Philippines - M 6.5 Fatalities 1
2003 11 17 - Rat Islands, Aleutian Islands, Alaska - M 7.8
2003 11 06 - Vanuatu Islands - M 6.6
2003 10 31 - Off the East Coast of Honshu, Japan - M 7.0
2003 10 19 - near Orinda, California - M 3.5
2003 10 08 - Hokkaido, Japan Region - M 6.7
2003 10 07 - near Imperial Beach, California - M 3.6
2003 10 01 - Southwestern Siberia, Russia - M 6.7 [/COLOR]
We should all note that not a single earthquake in this list is on the Atlantic Rift. Only Virginia might come close, and that is not very close. I am sure you would now say something like "there is a pattern there if you can find it". And then you might even give some sort of explanation of how the above somehow "points to" the Java Trench. So entertain us and tell us what that pattern was! LOL.
9) We should look at another simple fact, and that is that you did not mention anything related to the number of people that may or may not die in your predicted extreme earthquake on the entire Ring of Fire.
10) We should also point out what you later "predicted" about this earthquake that was coming "very soon":
<font color="blue"> timeline_39 @ 12/14/2003: [/COLOR] When I say extreme, I mean extreme. The size of this earthquake is going to going to be the biggest earthquake seen in modern times. The destruction caused by this plus 9.5 Richter quake will be immense.
So you must admit you were wrong about the magnitude. You said 9.5 and the Sumatra quake you want to take credit for was a 9.0. Big yes, but you can see from the link I shared earlier that it is most definitely not the "biggest earthquake seen in modern times." The Chile earthquake in 1960 claims that title. But then you would wish to argue the nebulous term "modern times" here. You will not doubt wish to make this mean "post 2000"...right? LOL.
But then you also wrote this in the same post on 12/14/2003:
<font color="blue"> timeline_39 @ 12/14/2003: [/COLOR] Although I am still bound to mission protocols and therefore I cannot reveal the exact location, but I think I can get away with giving you this. Please goto
http://www.iris.edu/seismon and look at the locations for the quakes over the last two weeks. Now all I can tell you that it is not going to be near any of those locations.
Bwaaaaaahahahahahha. That's effin funny, dude. You tried to tell us where the earthquake would NOT happen based on a non-specific list of quakes over the 2 weeks prior to this post. And at the same time you did not give any specific magnitude level of cutoff for the past two weeks. Which could mean it is anywhere, and indeed nowhere. Here is the sublist of the one I shared above of large earthquakes in that timeframe:
<font color="red"> 2003 12 10 - Taiwan - M 6.8
2003 12 09 - Virginia - M 4.5
2003 12 05 - Komandorskiye Ostrova, Russia Region - M 6.7 [/COLOR]
Uhhhhh... yup! None of those happened in Sumatra! I've gotta give you THAT part of the "prediction". But a pretty mundane one, yes? Telling us where a big event was NOT going to happen??? BIGLOL.
11) Then you told us of your departure coming up on 12/17/2003. And this again reinforces (along with the other words from yourself quoted above) that by "very soon" you were certainly referring to December/January 2003/2004.
12) But that wasn't the end of you... you "returned from your time travels" to us again in May of 2004 with the following:
<font color="blue"> timeline_39 @ 5/21/2004: [/COLOR] Some of you are wondering why the earthquake I mentioned has not happened in your prespective when I used the word, soon, in relation to a timeframe. The information I had at the time was that an extreme large quake was a few months after an eclipse.
The only information we had on an eclipse before the end of 2004 was the one last year until further studies of the information I brought back to the future were analysed. We then realised that we had the wrong eclipse.
Seeing that it was me who volunteered this information in the first instance, we felt it relevant that a correction be issued thus authorisation for this incursion was given.
Well then, this clearly falsifies your claim that you were "predicting" the earthquake you are now taking claim for. Just like you are now trying to post-dictum "clarify what you meant" to make it fit Sumatra and the tsunami, back then in May 2004 you were also post-dictuming to cover your November 2003 "prediction". Hence, here in this May 2004 post you are indeed confirming that you actually did mean "December/January 2003/2004" when you used the words "very soon".
Busted, dude. Totally effing busted. Go ahead and reply to me and try to explain it away. That will only serve to counter your claim that you don't care if anyone believes you. GIGANTIC LOL! Feeling a little trapped now that you can't respond to cover your ass without showing you really do care if people believe your hoax?
13) I guess I had better tie a little bow around this debunking of your claimed prediction and leave no loose ends. You may also try to claim that you do not specify "solar or lunar eclipse" in your CYA immediately above. You may try to slyly take credit for an eclipse or two that came later in 2004 after your May post. In case you try to do that, let's look at the eclipses that took place in 2004:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OH2004.html
<font color="red"> During the year 2004, there will be two solar eclipses and two lunar eclipses:
2004 Apr 19: Partial Solar Eclipse
2004 May 04: Total Lunar Eclipse
2004 Oct 14: Partial Solar Eclipse
2004 Oct 28: Total Lunar Eclipse [/COLOR]
Now to make your claim/hoax "fit" you would need to claim that the partial solar or total lunar eclipses in Oct 2004 are what you were vaguely referring to in your May post. I mean those are the closest to meeting your adjustment that the earthquake occurred after "an eclipse". But that would be hard for you to claim (honestly) in another post-dictum because you were viewing a total solar eclipse back there in November 2003:
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/OH/OH2003.html
<font color="red"> 2003 Nov 23: Total Solar Eclipse [/COLOR]
So that avenue of trying to post-dicta cover your prediction just won't wash either. So you really should not even try to explain what you meant. Oh, you will wish to reply to this and try to minimize the damage I am doing to your claims that are part of your hoax. But that would show you do care if people believe you. What a sticky wicket you are in, eh?
Of course, you could also have the sock puppet poster within this thread who has been asking you softball questions (as if they did believe you) to respond to me, instead of you doing it directly. That would be a way for you to save face, be able to ignore me (like you don't care), but then have your sock puppet make the same post-dictum suggestions that I have already defeated above.
Your move, Dooku. :D
RMT