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wonder if hell is freezing over.
 
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Rista ..... Your not fooling anyone. I traced those photos myself way back then.. Brick pulled them off a college website. I have already posted all about it way back then. And since none of us here believe brick, I seriously doubt anyone is in danger. Just go back to you world of warcraft and your leggos and leave the JT story for us grown ups to investigate.

I would appreciate being addressed by my actual handle, which is spelled RISATA. Please make a note of it in your simple mind.

I am not trying to "fool" anyone. Not only are you obnoxious, but clearly demented. You barge into this thread with the narcissism to think that anyone (me) has read any of YOUR postings. This guy posted pictures with names. I commented on that. There was no research needed, and clearly, you've missed the entire point I was making (imagine that.)

SO I suppose you wouldn't mind then, if I was able to obtain a photograph of you, that I would then post it to an internet forum under the thread of "wanna be smart but clearly lacks all ability to argue with critical thinking and therefore, has to resort to the fallacy of hurling insults and disparing remarks towards people who've never communicate with him before".

Oh, sorry. Let me take a break from my Leggo's to dumb that down for you, since I know that my ability to toggle toys AND insult you may ALSO go over your head......

You're an idiot.
 
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This thread is on the verge of being closed. And once again, titorite, folks can see you as the instigator of insults. While I don't like that Risata has fired back across your bow, I can certainly sympathize with her because this is PRECISELY how the feud between you and me started to get out of hand.

Please don't make me have to warn you again. Thanks,
RMT
 
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This thread is on the verge of being closed. And once again, titorite, folks can see you as the instigator of insults. While I don't like that Risata has fired back across your bow, I can certainly sympathize with her because this is PRECISELY how the feud between you and me started to get out of hand.

Please don't make me have to warn you again. Thanks,
RMT

RMT,
My apologizes to the forum. I tend to hate pissing matches myself, and I've grown tired of e-warriors myself. Seems on every forum, there is at least one person that raises my shackles. I will work on not feeding into or taking it personally. Not to justify but sometimes you have a bad day, you see ridiculous stuff and it's just easy to vent, whereas if you're not as stressed you might ignore it. Anyway, sorry for my role in it.
 
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i dont think you need to apologize at all. i laughed for half the day from, should we say, your "wit." :D
 
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"Just go back to you world of warcraft and your leggos and leave the JT story for us grown ups to investigate."

and about that, i play WoW(and legos too :O) and im 26, so why be rude, really...
 
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No worries, Risata. Believe me, I understand as I have had my go-arounds with titorite. He seems to think he always remains composed, but I have seen him as the instigator more than once.

RMT
 
Details that are mere matters of money but LEGAL details none the less right down to the unpaid parking ticket warrents (not that I have any of those). I know what I do have. And your CBC was incorrect. But just the fact that you did one and tried to intimidate me with it at yahoo... and the most laughable fact that they got their info wrong. And the realization that you subscribe to such a service....

Uhhh...huh?
 
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However titorite.

I think you are mistaken.

The picture in question was not originally pulled from the site. It was posted as a link from the site. I wish to have this cleared up. Because the way you make it sound as if I found the picture and reposted it for other purposes, when infact because knowing a small background here (I understand you wish to debate this fact.) Had searched through the proper channels and found the picture posted on a public site and posted a link to said picture.


Thank you once again for your time in clearing up this matter.

Brick.

"If your memory serves you well, you left me again to wait. So I am going to unpack all my things and sit before it gets to late.
No man alive will come to you, with another tale to tell. I do know we shall meet again, if your memory serves you well. Wheels on fire, rollin' down the road, just notify my next of kin, this wheel shall explode."
 
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Hey Rainman,

Look, right now I don't care. Your free to have your opinion. But I would ask that you practice what you preach,sir.

You wanna say you donf think what I'm saying is true. Fine. But to sit there an basiclly say "ttr is full of it" that's a little bit insulting don't cha think?

Besides, no one has debunked anything I have said. All people have done is say whatever. And yet I have handed everyone bits of it. And I have left it for you all to find other bits and fit it all together. I can't do it for two reasons. One, I still need to keep myself under some wraps. Two, if I could honestly remember everything, let alone know everything, I would have probally written a book and sold the rights to it for myself, and just did as others have, take the money and run.

I don't know everything. From day one I have never said or pretended too. As for pams song. Honestly I really wouldn't have put it past jester to say that just to "spin his webs" as he always told people when it came to his idea of social engineering.

Brick
"Comeback? Yes I shall comeback. Don't worry, don't fret. Just go foward in all your belifes, and proove to me that I am not mistaken in mine." -- William Hartnell.
 
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But to sit there an basiclly say "ttr is full of it" that's a little bit insulting don't cha think?

If that insults you, I apologize.

Besides, no one has debunked anything I have said.

That is merely YOUR opinion, and I think the opinions of others (esp. Pamela) would be quite the opposite. If you like, over the weekend I can go through this thread and find all the points that essentially work to debunk you. At the top of the list would be that you can't name Pamela's song, but there are other juicy ones too, for example Darby's pet name for Titor.

And yet I have handed everyone bits of it. And I have left it for you all to find other bits and fit it all together. I can't do it for two reasons.

Look through some of the other hoaxers who come here and you will find this is a staple of their approach...excuses why they can't provide irrefutable evidence. As Darby has said, those of us who have been here for a long time know what a hoaxer looks and smells like, and you are nowhere near some of the more effective hoaxers.

RMT
 
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"Two, if I could honestly remember everything, let alone know everything, I would have probally written a book and sold the rights to it for myself, and just did as others have, take the money and run."

see, thats the problem bud. you totally forgot why you came here. and that is why you have been debunked.
 
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We used peieces and people of which we knew. So much infact, the family in florida which was supposed to be johns family is relatives of jester. Now they no longer live in that state. And no I will not hand out an address as it may be used to link jester and myself into this, which could result in possible legal civil and or criminal issue, which after a long talk today with jester I fully admit, we do not wish to be involved.

However, we do wish to answer some questions. And feel free to try an "de-bunk" this claim. All we ask is no trolling or bullying. If I on behalf of jester and myself state we will not answer the question...... that's it we won't answer it. Find another question.

One question, I will answer in advance is the name Titor. This stood for Travel In Time Observing Ridicule. We did this as an exercise. Myself being a doctor who fan, and my friend jester being dragged into long talks about the possibilities of time travel decided to set this whole concept forward to see if we could garner people into ideas, answers and belife of it

Brick,

The above is from your first post. That being said, here's the problem with your story.

In your first post you said that you're a "doctor". You didn't say whether you're an an MD or a PhD but you did want to leave the impression that you have a degree far beyond a BA/BS. And given the context that you placed the statement in it also indicates that at the time, circa 2000, you held that degree.

We've read what you've had to say and have seen how you put those thoughts into the written form. There's not even a hint that you have an AA degree let alone a degree 6-8 years beyond the undergraduate level. It appears to be a fabrication up front in your first post and that casts doubt on anything that follows.

You also start out your story talking about "we" - you and Jester - and that you two will answers question. You stated, "All we ask is that you...". Your first post gives the impression that you and Jester initiated this story during a series of your walks or runs. Because you seem to have a problem with commas in subordinate clauses it's vague as to whether you dragged Jester into the game or whether Jester dragged you into the game.

Myself being a doctor who ran (I fixed the typo here – it was "fan" initially), and my friend jester being dragged into long talks about the possibilities of time travel decided to set this whole concept forward to see if we could garner people into ideas, answers and belife of it.

Vague though that sentence is you did end it with, "... to see if we could garner people into ideas, answers and belife of it..." Again, "we" are the initiators of the story.


But a few posts later the story started to change. The "we" seemed to have been replaced by "me".

But after discussing it with jester, I have decided 5 some odd years is long enough for this too go along down the road.

Thereafter, instead of answering the appurtenant questions to verify your bona fides you begin to claim that you were just an observer looking over his shoulder; this was Jester's game; you didn't actually play an active part in the game; you don't know any of the details. That is contrary to what you appear to have wanted us to believe based on your initial post.

So, it's not so much "debunking" you story as it is a matter of "what story" or "which story"? It would appear from your second post on that your intent was to enlighten us with "the truth" because the story had gone on for 5'ish years – much too long. But you haven't provided anything convincing. There's really nothing to debunk.
 
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Darby,

To better explain I will break this down.

1. In my very first post, which I did just re-read. (And would like to point out, there are no edits.) I do not see where I posted I was a doctor. Infact, I doubt I would go that far to be that stupid as to list that. It would be a way for all to recover my ID. After only so many per year garner that status from OSU. And I don't like the odds of being found that way. Infact, I think I do mention I was a doctor who fan.
As for my spelling,grammer and all that jazz, I've never ever said I was top dog in that department. So I don't see the point of making it a moot point at best. To focus my thoughts enough for me to type it out has always been hard to do. If you can't accept spelling and grammer faults, then I don't know what to tell you.

2. The WE.... its how I speak. I commonly say to people "how we doing?" its a poor habit, but one that I can only explain as such. I do know of a friend, who lost 3 fingers on his left hand. He had to learn how to retype, obviously. But he noticed he used more "right handed" words in his messages. And eventually started speaking in such way as well. Till, of course he learned to type a lot more use of what was left of his left hand. I type we, I say we. Accept it or not.

3. As for the situation. There's no story. Its thoughts and memories. Honestly darby, you of all people have said as far as the "other titor wannabes" I have gotten the closest. (Close but no cigar.)

I know you have opened a private discussion open to me. Possibly because you know I have hit the closest. There's a reason why....

Look, only because the place in question cannot be found because it has been demolished... myself,jester and others lived in an eight bedroom house, very close to the osu campus. (Off campus to be excact.) And before anyone starts, reread the earlier post. I have admitted to having others involved in this.

As for a lot of it, I might emplore this. The house was nicknamed "hell house" on the campus. We had parties every weekend. And I did spend a majority of my time intoxicated. And unless you have ever stayed up all night, went to class, got home, disco napped, went back out, and then in the middle of the night sat around with others and debated and debated over many bottles about how the effect of time travel would have on society at large...... then I honestly don't want to hear excuses from anyone about how I'm telling a lie. And because one person reads something, and then makes a comment on it and changes my words, then others comments on "my words" spoken by others.

Darb, as much as you would like me to keep this in your hands.... I know you can't. Not alone. You can't possibly have all the answers. There have got to be others. I only have so many clues put forth, not because I'm picky, but because that's pretty much all I have. Accept it or not. I'm no asking anyone to believe. You either believe it or not. I'm just asking for those who believe to help a guy out. Maybe people who are making this their hobby, can do a little research on the facts I have presented and fill me in, and in turn ill do the same.

And as for the wiseaker who stated that is why I fail, because I said if I had the asnwers, I would write my own damn book and like the others make money. You are half correct... to me this was never abount money. And I am failing, because, I only know what I do know. The internet is free. Why not keep the story free for all to gain the knowledge.

Ps, happy valentines day to all. May you @least get some chocolates, and if you are spending alone.

Brick

"Ted, Woody and Junior, stand in the bath together, and eachother in soap. Ted, Woody and Junior, stand in the frosty garden. They can feel their sin-ues harded, so they cover eachother in leaves. Its a wonderful world, with a lot of strange men. Who were standing around, and their all wearing towels. Ted, Woody and Junior, were disapointments to their fathers, but the had a way with lather, so they covered eachother in soap......."
 
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i ask you to remember why you came here. you psts have changed dramatically havent they? you said what you needed to say, and that shouldve been it. instead you decide on something opposite of what you said before.

"I'm just asking for those who believe to help a guy out. Maybe people who are making this their hobby, can do a little research on the facts I have presented and fill me in, and in turn ill do the same. "

clean the slate, and i will do everything in my power to help you. until then, in my eyes, you are exposed as a fraud.
 
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I was a doctor who fan.

Ah, I see it now and stand corrected...though you also have a problem with capitalization in addition to commas. "Dr. Who fan".

But we still have a problem. I can't imagine OSU granting admission to an undergrad with that sort of writing skill. That one paragraph that we've been discussing is an appropriate example of what I'm refering to. So, while I do apologize for the mistake regarding PhD/MD vs. Dr. Who I still sniff a misrepresentation relative to your education.

As to your comments regarding "we", it doesn't wash. The context of the statements were very clear. Within the paragraphs you referenced both yourself and Jester by name as well as referencing "we". You never made another post, once you began to back off aout your actual involvement, by refering to yourself as "we". It has remained consistently "I".

As to the story orignating at OSU - that's completely incorrect. I know what cities Titor posted from when he forgot to log in via proxy. None are close to Ohio let alone Columbus. The states were on the East Coast, West Coast and Florida.

And you're correct, I don't have all the answers. It's not, however, a matter that the answers aren't available. Art Bell, for one, has all of the answers - phone number, address and a name to send mail to at that address.

And also, yes, you came the closest to one part of the peripheral puzzle that isn't involved with the author(s) of the Titor Saga. You posted some names. The names were incorrect but I gave you credit for coming close. Even had you got the names correct you wouldn't have given any information that was related to the author(s) or any member of Group Titor.

But I'll give you a chance to redeem yourself and lend some credibility to your story. What is the first name of the person whose AOL email account was used to both register on Art Bell's BBS forum and to communicate with him? Please, no last names - just the first name and correct spelling (it's a rather unique name). The test here is that no one can look up a post here or anywhere else to find the name because it's never been referenced on the Internet.
 
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Ok normally I have never, ever had a sour tone on here but now I must......

Darb,

CELPHONE I am talking to you on a (insert word here) celphone. Can I get a break if I don't capitalise every fricken word. And before anyone debates my cel phone use here. Go back and reread it has already been verified as, I am speaking to you with an isp# that comes back to danger.com who of course is the set up for sidekick.

The only reason why I have occasional capital letter is because it auto dumps that crap in.


Second. LIVING on campus means living. And if that means I take advantage of useing the cel phone, possiblly mis spell and use poor grammer... then you nor anyone else can assume a true writing pattern. Is it not tis nobeler to pass the fire when we have heard the chimes at midnight?

As for art bell, yeah ill just drive out to Pahrump and get that information. As easily as I get iake and alexandrea in celebration to own up that their mojo is bad.

I.p. Address.... you yourself knows that when boomer came forth he masked his ip. Poorly I might add. And we also know, that if titor was more then one person. Then why does everyone involved must be in the same city. Hell, there was an artist who had his work smuggled into 30 art museums around the planet in 2 days about four or five years ago. He never left his home in canada, and never sent any in the mail. He got people from around the planet to create the pieces from his own instructions and had them post them in museums around the world. (Obviously to get a name for himself. ) now why am I bringing this up? Simple, who are you to say the "team titor" was in one place.

Let alone the basis of the parson I'm talking about. I just thought and remembered this...

Jester was walking from a coffee shop that used to be by osu. He found a purse sitting in a parking lot. He took the purse and we went back to the house. He found one of the early "pay as you go" cel phones. (Seriously, he was interested in having extra mins applied, he called to fill it and it was like 50 cents a min...... remember this is 2k. ) so in the purse he found a credit card. He use the credit card to fill mins on the phone. And then proceeded to use the card and phone to call a porn line. From the first min, he faked a scottish accent. He had this skank thinking he was scottish. And she even gave him her real phone number. He called her and every time with the same scottish accent.

To make a long story short.... I had to drive his @$$ to reading PA. And while the rest of us, took our own pleasures because she had friends.... the goofy bastard did things to that girl I don't even think were leagal in some states. And in the end promised her, she would "live with him @ his family home in scotland."

Then we got home, he throws the phone away. Now don't get me wrong. I had fun on the trip, I really did. But, it made me realise, jester just didn't care. He was out for his own pleasures. And he was willing to say whatever to get something and then toss his "trash" away with no fear of reprocusion.

I honestly would not be surprised if he planned on something with pamela. It wouldn't have been the first time he met some gal and just fed her some crap and then wanted to meet her for a captain kirk encounter. Hell, he used to say "women online are just needing some attention." And as long as they show him some attention, he showed them some as well.

Look, I wish I could answer all questions. But once again I can't. And as for aol.... I think have stated before I do not know. And that doesn't mean much, at least to me considering I have 4 email accounts with different services & only one has my real name.

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Ok, ive taken a few mins to collect some thoughts, calm down and so forth.

People, I cannot blame any of you for thinking what I am speaking is bs. I really can't. And because I was advised to do so, I have spent some time reading as much of the older post when you people had to deal with these yahoos. Rainman, my hats are off to you, you were not "full of it" when you said @least once a week you guys got a new wannabe, so yes everyone is reacting normally when someone speaks up and says "hey, look over here." And in a lot of respects, only because of some of the stuff I have read, I can honestly see why it was a really bad mistake to take the name brick. All I can say in respect of that is, that's how I felt. I'm nothing more then on brick of many, and jester I thought was morter. Maybe just maybe jester himself is too a brick as well. But I'm still banking on he was morter, if not foundation.

There is one more speck of info, which may or maynot help. Jester was very much involved in seeing the rocky horror picture show. Back in 97,98,99,and 2000 he would go from cast to cast and view the local shows. And trust me, if people see him, they remember him. He has a flamboyancy to him. I remember we went to this theater in melbourne florida back in 97 or 98, and without missing a beat dropped a hundo in the cast "passing the of the hat for cash"

And that wouldn't be the first time for that. Now, personally I never got into that crap. I was there for "booze and broads". Ironiclly I wasn't there for the time warp or fishnets.

Brick

"I was totin my pack down a dusty went a muck road. When along came a semi with a high canvas covered load. If you going to muckamack with me you can ride. So I climbed into the cab and settled down inside. He asked me if I have ever seen a road with so much dust and sand? I said listen, I've traveled every road in this here land. I've been everywhere, man. I've been everywhere, man. Across the desert its bare man. I breath the mountain air man. Travel, I've had my share man. I've been everywhere....."
 
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What is interesting...

I just thought and remembered this...

Jester was walking from a coffee shop that used to be by osu. He found a purse sitting in a parking lot. He took the purse and we went back to the house. He found one of the early "pay as you go" cel phones. (Seriously, he was interested in having extra mins applied, he called to fill it and it was like 50 cents a min...... remember this is 2k. ) so in the purse he found a credit card. He use the credit card to fill mins on the phone. And then proceeded to use the card and phone to call a porn line. From the first min, he faked a scottish accent. He had this skank thinking he was scottish. And she even gave him her real phone number. He called her and every time with the same scottish accent.

To make a long story short.... I had to drive his @$$ to reading PA. And while the rest of us, took our own pleasures because she had friends.... the goofy bastard did things to that girl I don't even think were leagal in some states. And in the end promised her, she would "live with him @ his family home in scotland."

And then this:

There is one more speck of info, which may or maynot help. Jester was very much involved in seeing the rocky horror picture show. Back in 97,98,99,and 2000 he would go from cast to cast and view the local shows. And trust me, if people see him, they remember him. He has a flamboyancy to him. I remember we went to this theater in melbourne florida back in 97 or 98, and without missing a beat dropped a hundo in the cast "passing the of the hat for cash"

And how does the above stack-up with this admission of yours?

Two, if I could honestly remember everything, let alone know everything,

So here is the point: You seem to have NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER remembering "details" like the above which have absolutely NO material connection to the Titor story, as exhibited by Titor's remnants on the net (and those remnants that only people like Pamela and Darby are aware of). But you have exhibited MAJOR PROBLEMS remembering details that anyone who was here during the Time of Titor (pun intended) are aware of. The consistency of this "memory problem" is not to be disputed. And as I mentioned above, I WILL collect your comments from this thread to show just how transparant you are.

You stumble over yourself to give us "details" which cannot be verified let alone connected to any form of known Titor lore. But when we point out where some of your "details" are in direct opposition to the Titor lore, you suddenly claim you have a memory problem. That just does not wash in any form of the game, man.

RMT
 
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WOW! I just joined and find it amazing how a topic like this carries on as far as it does.

Not meaning to be rude.

To roomie I say "let it go" you are beating a dead horse. If it happened the way you say and you believe what you believe you should be happy with that and continue on with your life.

To everyone else maybe it is time to move on. It does no one any good to continue the fighting and bickering right?

BTW I like it here. Looks like a really decent community you have going.
 
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Welcome to the forum, gadget.

To everyone else maybe it is time to move on. It does no one any good to continue the fighting and bickering right?

It may take you awhile to get acclimated... You wouldn't want to take all our fun away, would you? I mean... "it's what we do"!


RMT
 
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