ussfletcher
Chrono Cadet
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
I felt this thread needed a bump.
I felt this thread needed a bump.
1st Annual "Titor Was BS" Party- 1 Jan 2006
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RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
Interesting how silent Titor was on anything GOOD that may happen in his future as a result of US actions. It's all about the "bad". And his few, highly vague references to Iraq (which could be taken either way) also seemed to be steeped in the view that the US is "bad" for getting involved. Yet nowhere does Titor even imply that previously oppressed people somewhere in the world (Iraq) might be given the chance to determine their own government under free and fair elections. You see, Boomer (the person/persons behind Titor) did not write about the GOOD things that America makes happen in the world, because it would not support the agenda he/they had in telling his/their story, and crafting the John Titor Experiment.
Yes, bash GW Bush all you want. But Bush bashing will NOT change the reality of what we are seeing in Iraq today, namely, the success of a blooming democracy... the ability of Iraqi people to freely express who and what they want their country to become, without the fear of a dictator coming to haul them away, torture them, and possibly kill them for not supporting his dictatorial regieme.
The biggest reason we know The John Titor Experiment was a farce is because it is biased and unbalanced about America and our democractically elected government. We are not a fascist country, yet we are not perfect. While people may argue with the following statement, I think it is clear that the US does more good in the world than it does bad. And to those who would disagree with this statement, all we would need to do is stop the flow of US dollars out of our country to other places around the world... and then you would see the vaccuum created by all the good the US does.
We're really gonna have a great party this coming January 1st! The beginning of the end for the myth of The John Titor Experiment. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Thanks, fletch. I agree, as I think there are more things to be said now that Iraqis are again free to determine their own political future.
Interesting how silent Titor was on anything GOOD that may happen in his future as a result of US actions. It's all about the "bad". And his few, highly vague references to Iraq (which could be taken either way) also seemed to be steeped in the view that the US is "bad" for getting involved. Yet nowhere does Titor even imply that previously oppressed people somewhere in the world (Iraq) might be given the chance to determine their own government under free and fair elections. You see, Boomer (the person/persons behind Titor) did not write about the GOOD things that America makes happen in the world, because it would not support the agenda he/they had in telling his/their story, and crafting the John Titor Experiment.
Yes, bash GW Bush all you want. But Bush bashing will NOT change the reality of what we are seeing in Iraq today, namely, the success of a blooming democracy... the ability of Iraqi people to freely express who and what they want their country to become, without the fear of a dictator coming to haul them away, torture them, and possibly kill them for not supporting his dictatorial regieme.
The biggest reason we know The John Titor Experiment was a farce is because it is biased and unbalanced about America and our democractically elected government. We are not a fascist country, yet we are not perfect. While people may argue with the following statement, I think it is clear that the US does more good in the world than it does bad. And to those who would disagree with this statement, all we would need to do is stop the flow of US dollars out of our country to other places around the world... and then you would see the vaccuum created by all the good the US does.
We're really gonna have a great party this coming January 1st! The beginning of the end for the myth of The John Titor Experiment. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
RMT
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
The Sunni's will get a desert, the Kurds their long-deserved autonomy and some oil fields in the north, and the Shia will take control of most of the oil, that found in the southern oil fields, and align themselves with Iran.
The closest thing we will see to a democracy will be found in the Kurdish territory. The Shia will not look anything like a democracy.
These events, by the way, would have happened if we had just gone in a arrested/killed Saddam and then left. Only we would have saved billions of dollars, save countless USA service men lives, and not strengthen our real enemies, Al Queada, who will reap the benefits of our presence in Iraq for years to come.
I have to disagree with this statement. The only reason Iraq is holding elections is because we are there with guns making the election happen. Once we scale back our forces the country will split into it's natural borders - Sunni, Shia, and Kurdish.
The Sunni's will get a desert, the Kurds their long-deserved autonomy and some oil fields in the north, and the Shia will take control of most of the oil, that found in the southern oil fields, and align themselves with Iran.
The closest thing we will see to a democracy will be found in the Kurdish territory. The Shia will not look anything like a democracy.
These events, by the way, would have happened if we had just gone in a arrested/killed Saddam and then left. Only we would have saved billions of dollars, save countless USA service men lives, and not strengthen our real enemies, Al Queada, who will reap the benefits of our presence in Iraq for years to come.
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
I knew I could count on you to jump in MEM! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Of course, I don't agree with your assessment. But the best part about it is: TIME will tell which of us is right! With the pressure on Syria right now, and the moronic statements being spewed by the president of Iran, we are at a watershed moment in the Middle East.
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I knew I could count on you to jump in MEM! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Of course, I don't agree with your assessment. But the best part about it is: TIME will tell which of us is right! With the pressure on Syria right now, and the moronic statements being spewed by the president of Iran, we are at a watershed moment in the Middle East.
RMT
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
Did anyone ever explain away the fact that John Titor was using the phrase "weapons of mass destruction" before it was popularized in 2003? I know it existed before then, but it was really popularized afterwards, and will probably be a popular term regarding our decade and the US fear of terrorism. So why did he use that particular terminology?
Did anyone ever explain away the fact that John Titor was using the phrase "weapons of mass destruction" before it was popularized in 2003? I know it existed before then, but it was really popularized afterwards, and will probably be a popular term regarding our decade and the US fear of terrorism. So why did he use that particular terminology?
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
Is that "explained away" enough?
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Whether or not it was "popularized" is really more related to how much you paid attention to what the UN was doing since well before 1995. The WMD term was used quite often during the several times that Saddam kicked out the inspectors during the Clinton administration. That was their charter, to look for WMD. At least I was well aware of the term before 2000. I bet other "older" and internationally-aware folks like Darby were also quite aware of it.
Is that "explained away" enough?
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ussfletcher
Chrono Cadet
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
Didn't the Iranian president say the holocaust was fake?
Didn't the Iranian president say the holocaust was fake?
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
maybe ill wait till jan 10 all the end of the world dates seemed to go off the jewish calender,so ill just wait till chanukkah is over than celabrate.And yeah i belive the iranian president said the holacost was a fake but i think what he was refering to was that all the jews could have been taken out of germany before ww2 as arranged with the nazi party. however the zionist jews would not provid the money(2 million).they felt if not enuff jewish blood was spilled, there would be not enuff simpathy from the world when they would creat a state called isreal.this was one of the evil zionist fist steps to bringing there docteren of democracy to the middle east and setting up a permanet base of operations.this is why there is no way in hell the amarican troops in iraq will ever come home till they have estableshed democracy,and another new base of operations i can guarantee nucular wepons will be put in iraq after amaricas done rearangeing the counry. (just to make the new democratic iraq safe from its evil muslim neighbors).
maybe ill wait till jan 10 all the end of the world dates seemed to go off the jewish calender,so ill just wait till chanukkah is over than celabrate.And yeah i belive the iranian president said the holacost was a fake but i think what he was refering to was that all the jews could have been taken out of germany before ww2 as arranged with the nazi party. however the zionist jews would not provid the money(2 million).they felt if not enuff jewish blood was spilled, there would be not enuff simpathy from the world when they would creat a state called isreal.this was one of the evil zionist fist steps to bringing there docteren of democracy to the middle east and setting up a permanet base of operations.this is why there is no way in hell the amarican troops in iraq will ever come home till they have estableshed democracy,and another new base of operations i can guarantee nucular wepons will be put in iraq after amaricas done rearangeing the counry. (just to make the new democratic iraq safe from its evil muslim neighbors).
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
There is really no valid physics data concerning Titor one way or another. It Parallel Worlds are different, and differ, only guesses are being made. Oh, I grant you that they seem to be valid intelligent guesses, but in the end, only physics right now seem to indicate that Titor was a fake.
However, really in science, people end-up not guessing but collecting data to pour over, again and again!
Only Sith Lords deal in absolutes!
Obi-Wan!
There is really no valid physics data concerning Titor one way or another. It Parallel Worlds are different, and differ, only guesses are being made. Oh, I grant you that they seem to be valid intelligent guesses, but in the end, only physics right now seem to indicate that Titor was a fake.
However, really in science, people end-up not guessing but collecting data to pour over, again and again!
Only Sith Lords deal in absolutes!
Obi-Wan!
ussfletcher
Chrono Cadet
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
Someone should contact CNN and put our string of parties, one in each time zone on the news!
Someone should contact CNN and put our string of parties, one in each time zone on the news!
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
As far as I can count, there are 13 days left until Titor's (extended) US civil war prediction is technically put to rest. That will be a good enough reason to tie one on this New Years Eve. Then we can start gearing up for the next official (Winter) Olympics come February.
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Somehow, I fear, that the way the news agencies work, they would not be interested in our parties. They would only be interested in the story if the things Titor predicted really did come to pass.
As far as I can count, there are 13 days left until Titor's (extended) US civil war prediction is technically put to rest. That will be a good enough reason to tie one on this New Years Eve. Then we can start gearing up for the next official (Winter) Olympics come February.
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RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
OK, so we already know you hate America. Now in this post we collect some more hate data on you:
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OK, so we already know you hate America. Now in this post we collect some more hate data on you:
Check. So you hate Israelis (at least the Jewish ones) and you hate Americans. Any other groups you wanna register your hate of?
Wow, now that says alot about you! If they are evil zionists, then one must assume that you think their doctrine of democracy is evil too, huh? I don't think I've ever had anyone explain to me how the concept of democracy is evil. Would you like to try to explain that one for me? Or even better, explain to me why democracy in the middle east is such a bad thing to have! Seems to have worked well in many other countries. Not only that, but the democracy in the US is one of the biggest reasons that so many people wish to emigrate here.
And well they should not. For us to leave them before their democracy has taken full hold would be irresponsible. Even many of the most prominent US Democrats know that!
I can guarantee exactly the opposite! There is absolutely no need to place nuclear weapons on the ground in Iraq. We can hit anywhere on the globe with nukes launched from submarines, surface ships, or our wonderful B-2 stealth bomber. Why would we be stupid enough to put nukes in Iraq? You really sell Americans (and our ability to think) short. That could be dangerous...
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RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
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Wow, what a comeback. So are you trying to change the subject because my characterizations of you above are correct, or because you would just rather not deal with how others see issues differently?
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creedo299
Epochal Historian
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
Ruh ruh Raaaay?! Creedo shivers
Di di did yo you check out her pro proxy?
Wher where sh she's fro from little Creedo shivers over by Rays bed, a little benificent being, who came over to Rays bedroom, to trade sports cards.
Ruh ruh Raaaay?! Creedo shivers
Di di did yo you check out her pro proxy?
Wher where sh she's fro from little Creedo shivers over by Rays bed, a little benificent being, who came over to Rays bedroom, to trade sports cards.
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: 1st Annual \"Titor Was BS\" Party- 1 Jan 2006
Gee folks,
I seem to have misplaced my civil war somewhere! Has anyone seen it? I need to use it before the New Year... otherwise Titor will be nothing but BS!
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Gee folks,
I seem to have misplaced my civil war somewhere! Has anyone seen it? I need to use it before the New Year... otherwise Titor will be nothing but BS!
RMT
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
TIME to collect RSVPs
Saturday, New Years Eve is fast approaching us folks.
I thought it would be appropriate to ask people who are watching this year's New Years festivities as a means to finally dispose of the John Titor Experiment to chime in with their RSVPs for the virtual party we will be having this coming Saturday night.
Of course, any of our forum folks who are in the Southern California geographical area this Saturday are more than welcome to come party at my place in Huntington Beach, CA. Just send an RSVP to me in this thread or via PM. And to those of you on the WWW who will also be partying virtually, it would be nice for you to chime in here, on this thread, and let us all know that you will be celebrating the beginning of the end of the John Titor Experiment legend.
:D Any reason to get drunk, huh?
RMT
Saturday, New Years Eve is fast approaching us folks.
I thought it would be appropriate to ask people who are watching this year's New Years festivities as a means to finally dispose of the John Titor Experiment to chime in with their RSVPs for the virtual party we will be having this coming Saturday night.
Of course, any of our forum folks who are in the Southern California geographical area this Saturday are more than welcome to come party at my place in Huntington Beach, CA. Just send an RSVP to me in this thread or via PM. And to those of you on the WWW who will also be partying virtually, it would be nice for you to chime in here, on this thread, and let us all know that you will be celebrating the beginning of the end of the John Titor Experiment legend.
:D Any reason to get drunk, huh?
RMT
Re: TIME to collect RSVPs
I'll be celebrating in meta-Huntington Beach, meta-CA using the "Second Life" software. You can get the software at http://secondlife.com and I think they provide a 7 day free trial. After you login search for "Titor" in the places directory and you can teleport directly to the spot.
secondlife://144/62/21
I'll be celebrating in meta-Huntington Beach, meta-CA using the "Second Life" software. You can get the software at http://secondlife.com and I think they provide a 7 day free trial. After you login search for "Titor" in the places directory and you can teleport directly to the spot.
secondlife://144/62/21
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Second Life Party
Hi newbie,
Help me get to the Titor spot you set up for the party! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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Hi newbie,
You can just call me Rainman Fasching... in SL that is!
I'm going to need your help... cuz I can't for the life of me (or second life of me!) find any kind of "search" option whatsoever after I login. Can you guide me from the navigation bar that shows up on the left side of the page (i.e. COMMUNITY, CONNECTIONS, MARKETPLACE, etc.)
Help me get to the Titor spot you set up for the party! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
RMT