Yer another time traveling claim
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Re: Is this a bee prediction?
>First off, with the general acceptance and practicality of alternate energy sources, the world will slowly put less and less CO2 in the air. There are dozens of global projects to deal with warming- the largest of them all is a plan to somehow put an atmosphere in the moon. I know it sounds impossible- the moon is as big as all the land on Earth- but if the moon had an atmosphere, it would affect the Earth's seas less which would slowly start freezing the icecaps again... less of the moon's energy would reach the Earth. It's a permanent solution to global warming but it's almost impossible to pull off and would cost trillions of dollars, but then again it would double the livable space in this area of the solar system. People go to the moon in 2044 just as people buy tickets to space today and if it had an atmosphere, millions would move to the moon.
Parts of Panama have been terraformed to level off the seas to a small degree to slow the rising sea level and many shorelined cities simply built barriers to reduce tidal spilloff on land. In 2044, Polar Bears only live in zoos but by 2075 they should be placed back in their habitation- many other species are simply gone- far less birds and bees and bears... more weeds in general- this abnormally warm winter of 2007 is the first of many more. New Orleans will get a boost around 2015 and by 2040 be a major city. There's talk of filling in the Gulf of Mexico but again this is a huge undertaking. <
I don't know the date he posted this, but this was one of his last posts from the Time Travel Portal, and his first post here was 1/15/07, so he wrote this before 1/15/07.
>First off, with the general acceptance and practicality of alternate energy sources, the world will slowly put less and less CO2 in the air. There are dozens of global projects to deal with warming- the largest of them all is a plan to somehow put an atmosphere in the moon. I know it sounds impossible- the moon is as big as all the land on Earth- but if the moon had an atmosphere, it would affect the Earth's seas less which would slowly start freezing the icecaps again... less of the moon's energy would reach the Earth. It's a permanent solution to global warming but it's almost impossible to pull off and would cost trillions of dollars, but then again it would double the livable space in this area of the solar system. People go to the moon in 2044 just as people buy tickets to space today and if it had an atmosphere, millions would move to the moon.
Parts of Panama have been terraformed to level off the seas to a small degree to slow the rising sea level and many shorelined cities simply built barriers to reduce tidal spilloff on land. In 2044, Polar Bears only live in zoos but by 2075 they should be placed back in their habitation- many other species are simply gone- far less birds and bees and bears... more weeds in general- this abnormally warm winter of 2007 is the first of many more. New Orleans will get a boost around 2015 and by 2040 be a major city. There's talk of filling in the Gulf of Mexico but again this is a huge undertaking. <
I don't know the date he posted this, but this was one of his last posts from the Time Travel Portal, and his first post here was 1/15/07, so he wrote this before 1/15/07.
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
Daily pill to beat genetic diseases
A pill that can correct a wide range of faulty genes which cause crippling illnesses should be available within three years, promising a revolution in the treatment of thousands of conditions.
The drug, known as PTC124, has already had encouraging results in patients with Duchenne muscular dystrophy and cystic fibrosis. The final phase of clinical trials is to begin this year, and it could be licensed as early as 2009.
As well as offering hope of a first effective treatment for two conditions that are at present incurable, the drug has excited scientists because research suggests it should also work against more than 1,800 other genetic illnesses.
PTC124 targets a particular type of mutation that can cause very different symptoms according to the gene that is disrupted. This makes it potentially useful against a range of inherited disorders.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1690544.ece
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Three quotes by Titorian:
>The largest medical advance is genetic, specifically inoculations against specific diseases. This mutates people but it works. No artificial blood in the future yet. When science links nuclear testing to cancer, the world pretty much realizes why we're all so sick.<
>On the scientific front, genetic sequencing goes a long way towards preventing diseases, but people still rock climb and drive without seat belts. How much money is being spent to prevent the avian flu or mad cow disease and how many people are actually dying from it?<
>Immunizology makes cancer what it should be: a rare malady- either you get it and you're screwed or you might and it's preventable. I did not pay for my time traveling trip- my attorney did in exchange for information. The gold was mostly 10 oz. bars which are the size of an Ipod- the lump sum could fit in your pocket although it would pull your pants down. In 2044 they prevent cancer, they don't deal with it. The roots of this inevitability already exist, by 2015 it will be a reality. Ask a Canadian.<
and this one:
>I am genetically predisposed to have cancer. The only thing I can do is prolong it by detecting it sooner, like a few years from now.<
Daily pill to beat genetic diseases
A pill that can correct a wide range of faulty genes which cause crippling illnesses should be available within three years, promising a revolution in the treatment of thousands of conditions.
The drug, known as PTC124, has already had encouraging results in patients with Duchenne muscular dystrophy and cystic fibrosis. The final phase of clinical trials is to begin this year, and it could be licensed as early as 2009.
As well as offering hope of a first effective treatment for two conditions that are at present incurable, the drug has excited scientists because research suggests it should also work against more than 1,800 other genetic illnesses.
PTC124 targets a particular type of mutation that can cause very different symptoms according to the gene that is disrupted. This makes it potentially useful against a range of inherited disorders.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article1690544.ece
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Three quotes by Titorian:
>The largest medical advance is genetic, specifically inoculations against specific diseases. This mutates people but it works. No artificial blood in the future yet. When science links nuclear testing to cancer, the world pretty much realizes why we're all so sick.<
>On the scientific front, genetic sequencing goes a long way towards preventing diseases, but people still rock climb and drive without seat belts. How much money is being spent to prevent the avian flu or mad cow disease and how many people are actually dying from it?<
>Immunizology makes cancer what it should be: a rare malady- either you get it and you're screwed or you might and it's preventable. I did not pay for my time traveling trip- my attorney did in exchange for information. The gold was mostly 10 oz. bars which are the size of an Ipod- the lump sum could fit in your pocket although it would pull your pants down. In 2044 they prevent cancer, they don't deal with it. The roots of this inevitability already exist, by 2015 it will be a reality. Ask a Canadian.<
and this one:
>I am genetically predisposed to have cancer. The only thing I can do is prolong it by detecting it sooner, like a few years from now.<
Titorian45
Temporal Novice
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
I am only here to moderate this forum. There are guidelines time travellers agree to before they go back to the past and among them is not posting on this forum.
I am only here to moderate this forum. There are guidelines time travellers agree to before they go back to the past and among them is not posting on this forum.
Titorian45
Temporal Novice
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
>Seriously though, why would anybody in the future have a guideline specific to this forum?<
Because Titorian was a real time traveller. I am here to ensure there is a one way exchange of information on this subject- from the present forward. The warning is for other time travellers who agreed not to post here before they came. There is a reason you were all implanted.
>Seriously though, why would anybody in the future have a guideline specific to this forum?<
Because Titorian was a real time traveller. I am here to ensure there is a one way exchange of information on this subject- from the present forward. The warning is for other time travellers who agreed not to post here before they came. There is a reason you were all implanted.
recall15
Dimensional Traveler
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
Quoted from the future:
"on 2012 the common timeline splits in two:
-Terra Prima "Vox populi, vox Dei"
-Terra Formare "homo nebula"
"
end quoted...
Ok, Titorian 45, if you chipped all, that means that using an Anki star-Ship, we will harvested, and send to one of the two emerging timelines? Are We alredy know too much?
Please Elaborate...
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Best Regards
Harvest for the world 11:11
:D
Quoted from the future:
"on 2012 the common timeline splits in two:
-Terra Prima "Vox populi, vox Dei"
-Terra Formare "homo nebula"
"
end quoted...
Ok, Titorian 45, if you chipped all, that means that using an Anki star-Ship, we will harvested, and send to one of the two emerging timelines? Are We alredy know too much?
Please Elaborate...
--
Best Regards
Harvest for the world 11:11
:D
Titorian45
Temporal Novice
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
Within spacetime and within a logical context, information must flow in one definitive direction- either forwards or retroactively backwards. Time travellers are the wildcards in spacetime- they have the ability to rewrite history by their actions- and indirectly through their actions- define spacetime itself.
My purpose here is to ensure that the information within this board flows in one direction: logically from the present forward.
Within spacetime and within a logical context, information must flow in one definitive direction- either forwards or retroactively backwards. Time travellers are the wildcards in spacetime- they have the ability to rewrite history by their actions- and indirectly through their actions- define spacetime itself.
My purpose here is to ensure that the information within this board flows in one direction: logically from the present forward.
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
I really doubt that. For one thing, time travel isn't 21st tech. His story regarding the Branson Foundation simply doesn't jive with known history. For another thing, his fumble with the 2010 Powerball numbers is strong evidence that he isn't who he claims he is.
Given the incredible amount of alleged information about the future on this thread, you haven't been very successful, heh?
You mean, not only are we stranded in this primitive era, we are also prohibited to have fun? You gotta be kidding.
I really doubt that. For one thing, time travel isn't 21st tech. His story regarding the Branson Foundation simply doesn't jive with known history. For another thing, his fumble with the 2010 Powerball numbers is strong evidence that he isn't who he claims he is.
Given the incredible amount of alleged information about the future on this thread, you haven't been very successful, heh?
You mean, not only are we stranded in this primitive era, we are also prohibited to have fun? You gotta be kidding.
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
>I really doubt that. For one thing, time travel isn't 21st tech.
>His story regarding the Branson Foundation simply doesn't jive with known history.
>For another thing, his fumble with the 2010 Powerball numbers is strong evidence that he isn't who he claims he is.
Sigo2507- can you elaborate these three statements? I have the Time Travel Portal log of Titorian's posts, which is 2-3 times as much information as on this site and 99% of it jives, or is at least non-contradictory.
I am not saying Titorian was a time traveller but I have not seen convincing enough evidence that he was not- like Watcher, who is about to debunk himself by his own words any day now. Or Jimmy Earth who fell apart under close scrutiny.
I'd also like someone to comment on A=(E=MC2).
Lastly, who's to say Titorian45 is not really Titorian?!!! Because either they're both time travellers or they're both the same hoaxter.
>I really doubt that. For one thing, time travel isn't 21st tech.
>His story regarding the Branson Foundation simply doesn't jive with known history.
>For another thing, his fumble with the 2010 Powerball numbers is strong evidence that he isn't who he claims he is.
Sigo2507- can you elaborate these three statements? I have the Time Travel Portal log of Titorian's posts, which is 2-3 times as much information as on this site and 99% of it jives, or is at least non-contradictory.
I am not saying Titorian was a time traveller but I have not seen convincing enough evidence that he was not- like Watcher, who is about to debunk himself by his own words any day now. Or Jimmy Earth who fell apart under close scrutiny.
I'd also like someone to comment on A=(E=MC2).
Lastly, who's to say Titorian45 is not really Titorian?!!! Because either they're both time travellers or they're both the same hoaxter.
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
Gladly.
1. Time travel doesn't belong to the 21st. I'm not talking about the scenario Titorian is claiming, but about REAL 21st century history. Of-course, I don't know everything. There might have been sporadic attempts (and successes) in time travel during the 21st. But something as organized and mainstream as the so-called Branson foundation existing in the 21st, is completely out of the question.
2. The thing with the powerball lottery is a clear self-contradiction. In the beginning, Titorian claimed that he cannot forecast random results such as lottery numbers. Later, he seemed to have forgotten this assertion, when claiming to have the numbers for a specific 2010 drawing. Oops!
And no, Titorian's attempt in patching up the contradiction wasn't convincing.
3. As for A=E=MC2, there is a grain of truth in it. That is, if you choose your units such that C=1 and hbar=1, acceleration units and mass units are the same.
This is, really, nothing new to 21st physics. If I am not mistaken, the custom of picking C=hbar=1 is commonplace since the late 20th.
On the other hand, the equation C=ME^2 is sheer nonesense. Since mass and energy are clearly proportional to one another, ME^2 should behave like M^3 rather then remain constant (remember C is a constant).
That's only because you are focusing on the guy's ability to tell a good consistent story, rather then the scientific plausability of his story. His scenario has tons of scientific errors - something which may be understandable if the guy was inventing things up, but not if they happened for real.
Gladly.
1. Time travel doesn't belong to the 21st. I'm not talking about the scenario Titorian is claiming, but about REAL 21st century history. Of-course, I don't know everything. There might have been sporadic attempts (and successes) in time travel during the 21st. But something as organized and mainstream as the so-called Branson foundation existing in the 21st, is completely out of the question.
2. The thing with the powerball lottery is a clear self-contradiction. In the beginning, Titorian claimed that he cannot forecast random results such as lottery numbers. Later, he seemed to have forgotten this assertion, when claiming to have the numbers for a specific 2010 drawing. Oops!
And no, Titorian's attempt in patching up the contradiction wasn't convincing.
3. As for A=E=MC2, there is a grain of truth in it. That is, if you choose your units such that C=1 and hbar=1, acceleration units and mass units are the same.
This is, really, nothing new to 21st physics. If I am not mistaken, the custom of picking C=hbar=1 is commonplace since the late 20th.
On the other hand, the equation C=ME^2 is sheer nonesense. Since mass and energy are clearly proportional to one another, ME^2 should behave like M^3 rather then remain constant (remember C is a constant).
That's only because you are focusing on the guy's ability to tell a good consistent story, rather then the scientific plausability of his story. His scenario has tons of scientific errors - something which may be understandable if the guy was inventing things up, but not if they happened for real.
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
I agree- I like a good story over a good scientific explanation which is why I am interested in Titorian. But you have to see it from my perspective- I know very little about scientific theory. However, just today I read this:
"The RHIC data also provide the first empirical support for a theory so enthralling it once had physicists dancing at a major conference. Moreover, the accelerator's results hint that string theory- the much ballyhooed 'theory of everything', which has lately come under attack as being little more than a fanciful, if elegant, set of equasions- may have something to say about how the universe works after all."
"The Big Bang Machine" by Tim Folger; page 34.
Discover Magazine, Febuary 2007
And I just found the article online:
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/feb/cover
Titorian wrote this almost four months ago:
"Science abandons string theory when they realize it's nothing but numbers on paper- that it's nothing more than a sufficiently elaborate math formula that's equal because it's large enough to be equal but has no practical application apart from a good reason to learn Latin- it's junk math." Titorian, 1/26/07
Now maybe he got the Febuary issue in late January, read it and posted on 1/26, but this is not the first time he has said something before it happened- like the bees- he wrote that in January- the time of year the bees are all sealed up in their hives.
Once again, maybe he read an article from the prior year (as this bee problem seems to have first been identified in 2005) but then there's his statements on genetic medicine... you see what I mean?
He talked about terraforming the land in 2044- turning oceans into land to combat global warming. He also mentioned them filling in the Gulf of Mexico- these sounded absurd until I saw this:
"The Palm islands ( Coordinates: 25°06&#8242;28&#8243;N, 55°08&#8242;15&#8243;E ) in Dubai are the three largest artificial islands in the world...The first two islands will comprise approximately 100 million cubic meters of rock and sand. Palm Deira will be composed of approximately 1 billion cubic meters of rock and sand. All materials will be quarried in the UAE. Between the three islands there will be over 100 luxury hotels, exclusive residential beach side villas and apartments, marinas, water theme parks, restaurants, shopping malls, sports facilities and health spas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Palm_Islands
Stuff like this is hard to ignore. Then I think of John Titor- I thought he was real until I learned enough to realize he was not for real (sorry everyone). But regardless, there was a lot of good information John Titor gave us- time traveller or not.
>1. Time travel doesn't belong to the 21st. I'm not talking about the scenario Titorian is claiming, but about REAL 21st century history. Of-course, I don't know everything. There might have been sporadic attempts (and successes) in time travel during the 21st. But something as organized and mainstream as the so-called Branson foundation existing in the 21st, is completely out of the question.<
Well...
>The experiment of Lijun Wang might also give the appearance of causality violation since it made it possible to send packages of waves through a bulb of cesium gas in such a way that the package appeared to exit the bulb 62 nanoseconds before its entry. But a wave package is not a single well-defined object but rather a sum of multiple waves of different frequencies (see Fourier analysis), and the package can appear to move faster than light or even backwards in time even if none of the pure waves in the sum do so. This effect cannot be used to send any matter, energy, or information backwards in time, so this experiment is understood not to violate causality either.<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel
And I'm pretty sure Lijun Wang is not the only phycisist working on this.
>That's only because you are focusing on the guy's ability to tell a good consistent story, rather then the scientific plausability of his story. His scenario has tons of scientific errors - something which may be understandable if the guy was inventing things up, but not if they happened for real.<
But it does not appear as though he was making stuff up- here's some of his C=ME2 explanations:
- - - - - - - -
C=ME2 is larger and more encompassing than the opposite; E=MC2 is part of C=ME2. E=MC2 is one way of looking at the universe, C=ME2 is another larger, simpler way.
- - - - - - - -
This is why E=MC2 cannot unify the fundamental forces after 102 years, tens of thousands of physicists and trillions of dollars- it falls short from a lack of perspective.
- - - - - - - -
Now the universe is E=MC2 but everything within the universe is C=ME2... everything in the universe is "a universe onto itself". Everything in the universe is a THING, which means it's possible to quantify any one THING in the universe- provided you use "the rest of the universe" as a resource to quantify "that THING"... beyond a Hensenberg threshold for a Planck Unit... this is why A bombs go off.
This is where the mechanics of C=ME2 come into play- if you can quantify (or control) one field (meaning, put up a wall between this field and the rest of the universe), you can manipulate acceleration and in the process travel time and that is how the Branson time machine works: it's a ratio of electromagnetism (energy) and centrifigul forces (mass).
- - - - - - - -
... it's possible to create shells that can exist seperate from acceleration and move within them... that can travel through time with enough energy. I hope this makes sense to you all because that's how it works- you can't control the universe but you can control a part of it to the point of where it seperates from the universe only to rejoin the universe at an earlier point in time.
- - - - - - - -
Well... what would happen if you built Titorian's time machine- a centrifuge of two supermagnets and spun it really fast?
I agree- I like a good story over a good scientific explanation which is why I am interested in Titorian. But you have to see it from my perspective- I know very little about scientific theory. However, just today I read this:
"The RHIC data also provide
"The Big Bang Machine" by Tim Folger; page 34.
Discover Magazine, Febuary 2007
And I just found the article online:
http://discovermagazine.com/2007/feb/cover
Titorian wrote this almost four months ago:
"Science abandons string theory when they realize it's nothing but numbers on paper- that it's nothing more than a sufficiently elaborate math formula that's equal because it's large enough to be equal but has no practical application apart from a good reason to learn Latin- it's junk math." Titorian, 1/26/07
Now maybe he got the Febuary issue in late January, read it and posted on 1/26, but this is not the first time he has said something before it happened- like the bees- he wrote that in January- the time of year the bees are all sealed up in their hives.
Once again, maybe he read an article from the prior year (as this bee problem seems to have first been identified in 2005) but then there's his statements on genetic medicine... you see what I mean?
He talked about terraforming the land in 2044- turning oceans into land to combat global warming. He also mentioned them filling in the Gulf of Mexico- these sounded absurd until I saw this:
"The Palm islands ( Coordinates: 25°06&#8242;28&#8243;N, 55°08&#8242;15&#8243;E ) in Dubai are the three largest artificial islands in the world...The first two islands will comprise approximately 100 million cubic meters of rock and sand. Palm Deira will be composed of approximately 1 billion cubic meters of rock and sand. All materials will be quarried in the UAE. Between the three islands there will be over 100 luxury hotels, exclusive residential beach side villas and apartments, marinas, water theme parks, restaurants, shopping malls, sports facilities and health spas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Palm_Islands
Stuff like this is hard to ignore. Then I think of John Titor- I thought he was real until I learned enough to realize he was not for real (sorry everyone). But regardless, there was a lot of good information John Titor gave us- time traveller or not.
>1. Time travel doesn't belong to the 21st. I'm not talking about the scenario Titorian is claiming, but about REAL 21st century history. Of-course, I don't know everything. There might have been sporadic attempts (and successes) in time travel during the 21st. But something as organized and mainstream as the so-called Branson foundation existing in the 21st, is completely out of the question.<
Well...
>The experiment of Lijun Wang might also give the appearance of causality violation since it made it possible to send packages of waves through a bulb of cesium gas in such a way that the package appeared to exit the bulb 62 nanoseconds before its entry. But a wave package is not a single well-defined object but rather a sum of multiple waves of different frequencies (see Fourier analysis), and the package can appear to move faster than light or even backwards in time even if none of the pure waves in the sum do so. This effect cannot be used to send any matter, energy, or information backwards in time, so this experiment is understood not to violate causality either.<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_travel
And I'm pretty sure Lijun Wang is not the only phycisist working on this.
>That's only because you are focusing on the guy's ability to tell a good consistent story, rather then the scientific plausability of his story. His scenario has tons of scientific errors - something which may be understandable if the guy was inventing things up, but not if they happened for real.<
But it does not appear as though he was making stuff up- here's some of his C=ME2 explanations:
- - - - - - - -
C=ME2 is larger and more encompassing than the opposite; E=MC2 is part of C=ME2. E=MC2 is one way of looking at the universe, C=ME2 is another larger, simpler way.
- - - - - - - -
This is why E=MC2 cannot unify the fundamental forces after 102 years, tens of thousands of physicists and trillions of dollars- it falls short from a lack of perspective.
- - - - - - - -
Now the universe is E=MC2 but everything within the universe is C=ME2... everything in the universe is "a universe onto itself". Everything in the universe is a THING, which means it's possible to quantify any one THING in the universe- provided you use "the rest of the universe" as a resource to quantify "that THING"... beyond a Hensenberg threshold for a Planck Unit... this is why A bombs go off.
This is where the mechanics of C=ME2 come into play- if you can quantify (or control) one field (meaning, put up a wall between this field and the rest of the universe), you can manipulate acceleration and in the process travel time and that is how the Branson time machine works: it's a ratio of electromagnetism (energy) and centrifigul forces (mass).
- - - - - - - -
... it's possible to create shells that can exist seperate from acceleration and move within them... that can travel through time with enough energy. I hope this makes sense to you all because that's how it works- you can't control the universe but you can control a part of it to the point of where it seperates from the universe only to rejoin the universe at an earlier point in time.
- - - - - - - -
Well... what would happen if you built Titorian's time machine- a centrifuge of two supermagnets and spun it really fast?
Re: Is this a bee prediction?
I can see your point.
Indeed, there is nothing wrong with providing no scientific explanation at all. And Titorian himself *did* say that physics wasn't his strong point. But if that's the case, why describe it in such detail?
But there is a more subtle point here. Since we already know that Titorian isn't science saavy, there is a very simple way to check whether he is for real:
If Titorian is a real TTer, then his STORY should make scientific sense, since he is merely telling what happened in the real world. It wouldn't necessarily concur with the science known in 2007, but it *would* paint a consistent picture how the world works in 2044.
Think about it this way: If YOU went back to 1950 and told a bunch of scientists about the marvels of 2007 tech, you would be teaching them - albiet unknowingly - a lot of things about modern scientific advances. At first, your story would seem odd, because it wouldn't exactly jive with 1950 science. But the more details you supply, the gaps will begin to fill, and your story will begin to make sense. The astute listener will start making connections between tidbits in your story and what HE knows about science. And this is an effect which is simply impossible to fake.
He didn't predict anything here.
Superstring theory has been attacked in this way for decades. And it is in decline of several years now.
So the article in Discover doesn't say anything new about this. Well, nothing new except that the RHIC found new evidence in favour of string theory - which is pretty much the exact opposite of what Titorian said.
So once again, this isn't a "prediction", is it?
Also, doesn't it strike you odd, that a time traveller from 2044 is predicting stuff about bees, but cannot tell us of any major historical event before it happens?
Why didn't Titorian tell us about the Massacre in Virginia Tech, for example?
Genetic medicine has been around since 1989. You don't need a time traveller to predict that further improvements in this field will occur in the future.
Well, what makes you think that he didn't read a similar article?
The idea isn't new. It has been around for decades, in hard science fiction books.
There is a HUGE difference between what Lijun Wang is doing and time travel in the usual sense. The Wang setup (boy, that sounds bad, doesn't it /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif) does not violate causality. As far as the fundamental physics are concerned, it is nothing more then a fancy form of quantum teleportation. A really cool piece of technology, no doubt. But it isn't genuine time travel.
Bear in mind that "time travel" of this kind happens all the time in the microscopic world. It is part of the very nature of the quantum world, that time (as well as space) becomes blurry at extremely small scales.
His explanations seem okay for the layman, but the math is wrong. As many people explained here before, C=ME2 can't be right because the units are wrong. And if Titorian was really a TTer from the future, wouldn't you expect him to correctly cite the popular equation of his days? Titorian's statement that he isn't a physicist doesn't save him here. If the equation came from a future popular science book, it should have been correct, regardless of Titorian's own level of understanding.
Think what would happen, if YOU were a time-traveller, and you tried to explain the idea of the atomic bomb to someone from (say) 1900. You don't need to understand the physics, in order to recite E=MC2 correctly. And any physicist from 1900 will be able to confirm that E=MC2 has, at the very least, the correct mathematical form to be plausable. On the other hand, as a non-physicist, you will have a pretty hard time trying to explain what E=MC2 means in your own words.
Notice how Titorian's case is the exact reverse of this: He goes into a great deal of detail in his verbal explanations, yet gets the simplest of equations wrong. This is clear evidence that he invented the equation himself, rather than quoted some well-known fact from the future.
I can see your point.
Indeed, there is nothing wrong with providing no scientific explanation at all. And Titorian himself *did* say that physics wasn't his strong point. But if that's the case, why describe it in such detail?
But there is a more subtle point here. Since we already know that Titorian isn't science saavy, there is a very simple way to check whether he is for real:
If Titorian is a real TTer, then his STORY should make scientific sense, since he is merely telling what happened in the real world. It wouldn't necessarily concur with the science known in 2007, but it *would* paint a consistent picture how the world works in 2044.
Think about it this way: If YOU went back to 1950 and told a bunch of scientists about the marvels of 2007 tech, you would be teaching them - albiet unknowingly - a lot of things about modern scientific advances. At first, your story would seem odd, because it wouldn't exactly jive with 1950 science. But the more details you supply, the gaps will begin to fill, and your story will begin to make sense. The astute listener will start making connections between tidbits in your story and what HE knows about science. And this is an effect which is simply impossible to fake.
He didn't predict anything here.
Superstring theory has been attacked in this way for decades. And it is in decline of several years now.
So the article in Discover doesn't say anything new about this. Well, nothing new except that the RHIC found new evidence in favour of string theory - which is pretty much the exact opposite of what Titorian said.
So once again, this isn't a "prediction", is it?
Also, doesn't it strike you odd, that a time traveller from 2044 is predicting stuff about bees, but cannot tell us of any major historical event before it happens?
Why didn't Titorian tell us about the Massacre in Virginia Tech, for example?
Genetic medicine has been around since 1989. You don't need a time traveller to predict that further improvements in this field will occur in the future.
Well, what makes you think that he didn't read a similar article?
The idea isn't new. It has been around for decades, in hard science fiction books.
There is a HUGE difference between what Lijun Wang is doing and time travel in the usual sense. The Wang setup (boy, that sounds bad, doesn't it /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif) does not violate causality. As far as the fundamental physics are concerned, it is nothing more then a fancy form of quantum teleportation. A really cool piece of technology, no doubt. But it isn't genuine time travel.
Bear in mind that "time travel" of this kind happens all the time in the microscopic world. It is part of the very nature of the quantum world, that time (as well as space) becomes blurry at extremely small scales.
His explanations seem okay for the layman, but the math is wrong. As many people explained here before, C=ME2 can't be right because the units are wrong. And if Titorian was really a TTer from the future, wouldn't you expect him to correctly cite the popular equation of his days? Titorian's statement that he isn't a physicist doesn't save him here. If the equation came from a future popular science book, it should have been correct, regardless of Titorian's own level of understanding.
Think what would happen, if YOU were a time-traveller, and you tried to explain the idea of the atomic bomb to someone from (say) 1900. You don't need to understand the physics, in order to recite E=MC2 correctly. And any physicist from 1900 will be able to confirm that E=MC2 has, at the very least, the correct mathematical form to be plausable. On the other hand, as a non-physicist, you will have a pretty hard time trying to explain what E=MC2 means in your own words.
Notice how Titorian's case is the exact reverse of this: He goes into a great deal of detail in his verbal explanations, yet gets the simplest of equations wrong. This is clear evidence that he invented the equation himself, rather than quoted some well-known fact from the future.
C = ME^2 does not work.
Titorian equation can’t work if it is
in our dimension for the following
reasons.
(1) E = MC^2
(2) C = ME^2
C = 1 a constant forget about the speed
of light for now.
(3) M = E
(4) 1/M = E^2
Units don’t match and the definition
contradict each other. One of them
must be wrong.
The only thing you have left to say
to keep this equation alive is that
it belongs in another dimension which
is acceleration between dimensions.
If that is the case we can’t prove you
right or wrong since no one has the
expertise for that kind of stuff we need
a physicist.
Titorian equation can’t work if it is
in our dimension for the following
reasons.
(1) E = MC^2
(2) C = ME^2
C = 1 a constant forget about the speed
of light for now.
(3) M = E
(4) 1/M = E^2
Units don’t match and the definition
contradict each other. One of them
must be wrong.
The only thing you have left to say
to keep this equation alive is that
it belongs in another dimension which
is acceleration between dimensions.
If that is the case we can’t prove you
right or wrong since no one has the
expertise for that kind of stuff we need
a physicist.