September 2024

I understand how you feel about would-be hoaxes, however <font color="red">I can assure you I am not a hoax. Of course, this is only my word,[/COLOR]
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Right there. Given there can be no argument that you have just contradicted yourself in the space of two sentences, directly adjacent to one another, there can only be one of two reasons why:

1) You are completely ignorant of having done so, in which case this adds to Darby's claim that you exhibit the intelligence of a civil servant (one with a self-inflated ego, which is saying something redundant).

2) You are so unbelievably arrogant in your hoax that you lie outright about being able to assure me, without ever thinking you will be called on it, as if no one would have the brain to notice.

If it is reason number (2) then my rudeness towards you and your arrogant hoax is more than well justified. If it is reason number (1) you are much more clueless than you think you are, and certainly too vapid for me to take seriously. Hence my ridicule of your ignorance would be at least in the ballpark of being correct, as would Darby's entertaining "gubmint goon" schtick.

Either way, you just can't win. And for all the huff and puff you state about OpSec, you still have not answered my questions a couple pages back. Why the continuous stalling and sidetracking?

I don't need a lesson in OpSec and InfoSec. In fact, that is what I am telling you that YOU need. You see I can prove who I am, and that I possess a security clearance of a specific level above Confidential. You cannot and have not done the same. And while you cannot and have not convinced anyone of your stated credentials, you have also exhibited to me (through your inability to answer my questions, and your actions on this board) that you really are clueless about these security topics. Your statement that you, as a single person, have all the authorization you need to release DoD information is blatantly false, as it violates a fundamental principle of both OpSec and InfoSec (no matter what year you live in). This is how &gt;I&lt; am the one who can assure &gt;YOU&lt; (and others) that you are, indeed, a hoax.

RMT
 
Lyndzee_Grummond new Questions

1. Have it in your future timelime been done any studies of the efect
time travel have on human body cells, can extended travel de-grade to some degree the human dna and celular structure?

2. Is it true the part we see in many Sci-fi moves that by moving very fast into a Sun can warp the ship into another timeline, yea i know is sci-fi but has there been any studies on that?

3. Have there in your future timeline been any answer to how big the universe is and what lay behind the border of the universe/s ?
my theory is that the universe/s is like huge bubbles inside a empty black room (that is much bigger than the tiny bubbles that make up each of the universe)

4. Has they by 2024 started to put obligatory Microchip skin-inplant on humans for security reasons
or is it still based upon free-will ?

5. Has Nasa landed astronauts on Mars by 2024 or are they still planning it?
did china land someone on moon on mars from now and to your timeline?

6. What is the Big event that will happen in 2012
I recall reading about some timetravellers that atempted to travell to 2011,2012 and 2013
It was not possible for them to set the time machine to 2012 some sort of Blocking wall stopped them (somekind of obstacle interfering making it not possible to travel to 2012)
but they travel to 2013 and they find nothing just Black empty space and nothing
If some of this are true , can you share some light on what realy will happens in 2012 that make an obstacle not to travel to 2012 using timetravell technology?
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DreamsComesTrue,

As of yet there have only been studies regarding the effect, or lack of effect, travel has on the brian functions of a traveler.

This concept is something I am not familiar with. I would have to assume it would be impossible due to the extreme heat.

The universe is always expanding as we all know, but there are regularly new discoveries in what is contained within our universe usch as new galaxies, etc.

No, there is absolutely no mandatory micro-chipping of civilians!

NASA by name is no longer in existence, however there has been a single landing on the moon consisting of two males and one female. China has landed on the moon, also a single time.

2012 was a standard year. There was no 'Big Event' during the year.

L. Grummond
 
And Lyndzee that is why I don't understand why you have a zero divergence.
Just the fact that you are here makes it different. And Darby is right
every small action makes a ripple of change.

Even if it is as small as I am posting on here right now instead of going to the store or something
my wait in line makes someone else slightly later and their slightly later
effects someone elses slightly later and on and on. It would take me an hour
to properly explain it in a post. Things change all along that path. But what about that??
If you interacted with no one at all just the fact that energy was brought here would change
some things. John claimed to be from a later time than you do you think you just have not
discovered this yet? Or is your idea of zero not completely zero?
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Pamela (and Darby),

Each travel would technically begin with a divergence of zero. Depending on what occurs during the span of the travel, a divergence may result. I believe I mentioned in a previous post that the outcome of the first two missions were zero divergence and that we theorize that the same will be said for this third mission. Although there may in fact be a minor divergence (we estimate &lt;.001) in the end, we find this to be negligible as far as the outcome of the time which we visit.

At the same time, I understand completely what you and others have stated regarding scenarios where someone may, for example, spend an extra few seconds reading something in this very thread I have created (rather than, say, continuing on with their day) and therefore cause 'ripples' from that point, however could not the very same thing occur if one day you simply decided to stop and count to 10 before you walked out your front door rather than just walking right out without the pause and heading to work? Using the same understanding, you may have just changed the course of your day and life and that of the world, no? This is the reason we believe that the smallest possible divergence would in fact be negligible in the end. I hope this answers your question.

L. Grummond
 
Hello Lyndzee, I would like to ask you some questions about your country:

-Has been added any new amendment to the U.S. Constitution between now and 2024? Has any of the current (2008) amendments been modified or repealed? Is the Constitution in your time the same one, word by word, than in 2008?

-What is the total population of the U.S. in 2024? What's the racial make-up of the country in %?

-How many states compose the U.S. in your time? Besides Puerto Rico which you mentioned, anyone else? By the way, What year did PR acquired statehood?

-Is the English the official language of the U.S. in 2024?

-Is the same-sex marriage legal at federal level in 2024? If not, how many states do have legal same-sex marriage? (In 2008, two states: Massachusetts and California)

-Did the government finally build a fence along the US/Mexican border?

-Is the gun debate/2nd amendment thing still a big issue in the US?

-Which ex-presidents have died between 2008 and 2024? Tell us the year of demise if you remember, please.

Thanks in advance for your kindly answers, Lyndzee.
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BR_Holden,

No, there have been no additional Amendments passed, however a handful of laws have been passed that pertain to some of the Amendments such as gun laws.

The population of the US is somewhere around 370 million. I am not exactly sure on the demographics, so trying to give you percentages is a bit difficult.

There are only 51 states, Puerto Rico was in 2019.

There is still no official language designated for the US.

Same-sex marriage is not legal, although many support it. A number of states do allow it, however I am not sure exactly how many of them do. I know that Arizona, Florida, and Illinois do for example.

There is a fence along the southern border. Some sections are fences that were built decades ago, but some sections use virtual fences.

I touched on gun isssues a bit earlier in this post. There have been tighter restrictions on gun ownership and therefore the tension on the subject has somewhat died down, although those who still root their beliefs to the extremes of both sides of the issue still disagree.

President George H.W. Bush did pass away a number of years ago and President Carter is in poor health.

L. Grummond
 
however there has been a single landing on the moon consisting of two males and one female. China has landed on the moon, also a single time.
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Why no space tra-vel? Spacetime travel = time travel and space travel. You ro-tate Min-kow-ski-an co-or-din-ate frame. ds^2 = -c(t2 - t1)t^2 + (x2 - x1)^2 + (y2-y1)^2 +(z2-z1)^2. You can sol-ve for space or time in-ter-val.

Bad, sad Bureaucrat-scientist not know im-pli-ca-tion of co-or-din-ate frame ro-ta-ti-on. Please explain lack of know-ledge.
 
As of yet there have only been studies regarding the effect, or lack of effect, travel has on the brian functions of a traveler.

This concept is something I am not familiar with. I would have to assume it would be impossible due to the extreme heat.
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Bureaucrat Big DARPA Hon-cho. Is re-spon-sible for all pro-gram and per-son-nel safe-ty. Big no-no not know. Con-gress over-sight co-mit-tee very un-hap-py when learn Hon-cho not know.
 
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"I understand how you feel about would-be hoaxes, however I can assure you I am not a hoax. Of course, this is only my word,"

Right there. Given there can be no argument that you have just contradicted yourself in the space of two sentences, directly adjacent to one another, there can only be one of two reasons why:

1) You are completely ignorant of having done so, in which case this adds to Darby's claim that you exhibit the intelligence of a civil servant (one with a self-inflated ego, which is saying something redundant).

2) You are so unbelievably arrogant in your hoax that you lie outright about being able to assure me, without ever thinking you will be called on it, as if no one would have the brain to notice.

If it is reason number (2) then my rudeness towards you and your arrogant hoax is more than well justified. If it is reason number (1) you are much more clueless than you think you are, and certainly too vapid for me to take seriously. Hence my ridicule of your ignorance would be at least in the ballpark of being correct, as would Darby's entertaining "gubmint goon" schtick.

RMT
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RainManTime,

How can you create an arguement from half a sentence? Perhaps you should find a place in politics as well...The remainder of my sentence was:

Of course, this is only my word, and you will not be sure of this until the various events and outcomes I have mentioned come to pass...

Basically what I was saying was, I am giving you my word, but you do not know me and therefore my word more than likely means nothing to you. Therefore, as the rest of my statement read, you would see the events and outcomes I mentioned come to pass before you would more than likely believe me.

Your statement that you, as a single person, have all the authorization you need to release DoD information is blatantly false, as it violates a fundamental principle of both OpSec and InfoSec (no matter what year you live in). This is how &gt;I&lt; am the one who can assure &gt;YOU&lt; (and others) that you are, indeed, a hoax.
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Furthermore, I directly answered your concerns regarding DoD guidelines and my abililty to do what I am doing here and the only fault you could find is one you created. You either twisted my words or misread because I never said that I, as a single person, had the authorization to release information. What I said was:

"...as the Head of an Agency within the DoD, I have clearance authority on the subject. Anything I have mentioned here is not sensitive to military matters or national security issues and therefore does not fall under the policies which you have stated. Furthermore, you must remember that DARPA is in fact involved directly in this technology, however only as part of the ITI. Anyone involved in the project does have operational security guidelines set before them by the ITI..."

If, in fact, you do have knowledge of DoD guidelines (which I do not doubt you - as hundreds of thousands of government employees and civilian workers who deal with the Department everyday do), then you know what I say about being a Head of Agency is true. I in fact do have clearance authority on the subject and am involved in what, if any, information is released regarding a certain project. Once again, I never said that I, solely, have the authority. Additionally, I followed that comment by saying that within this time travel project I am under the directives of the ITI, not DARPA, as the ITI is the organization who is running the project.

Either way, you just can't win. And for all the huff and puff you state about OpSec, you still have not answered my questions a couple pages back. Why the continuous stalling and sidetracking?
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Finally, you acknowledge I have answered your questions regarding OpSec/InfoSec, etc (which you cannot deny I have), but say I am stalling and sidetracking by not answering your previous questions. First of all, in what way is doing what you asked me to do (answer your questions and concerns) sidetracking or stalling? What am I sidetracking or stalling? Answering your questions? That's what I am doing! How can I be stalling answering your questions by, well, answering your questions? Furthermore, in the post to which you just replied with the above quote about "you still have not answered my questions...stop stalling", I clearly stated:

"If I have not answered some of your questions it may simply be because you have had a few 'junk' posts after which I simply skipped over a majority of. As I said before, I will be happy to answer any of your questions if you would not mind making a simple list and placing them in a post for me to respond to."

It's right there. Very clear in my previous post. I asked you to simply compile a list of your questions for me to respond to. So, I await your response and your questions! And I hope that if I answer all of your questions and concerns (as I just did in my previous post) you will give it a second or third read so that this type of confusion does not occur again. Let's keep things organized and easy to navigate.

L. Grummond
 
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As of yet there have only been studies regarding the effect, or lack of effect, travel has on the brian functions of a traveler.

This concept is something I am not familiar with. I would have to assume it would be impossible due to the extreme heat.



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Bureaucrat Big DARPA Hon-cho. Is re-spon-sible for all pro-gram and per-son-nel safe-ty. Big no-no not know. Con-gress over-sight co-mit-tee very un-hap-py when learn Hon-cho not know.
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Wow I wish some of us could carry on a normal conversation, but looks like that isn't the case. Looks like talking like that has effected your reading skills. If you read that again, you should be able to deduce that those sentences don't go together, but instead are responses to two different questions.

Go ahead. Go read! Good boy!

Keep in mind, I am a woman and can most likely play that game better than you can.

Why can't you simply conduct a normal conversation? You know, like an adult.
 
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however there has been a single landing on the moon consisting of two males and one female. China has landed on the moon, also a single time.



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Why no space tra-vel? Spacetime travel = time travel and space travel. You ro-tate Min-kow-ski-an co-or-din-ate frame. ds^2 = -c(t2 - t1)t^2 + (x2 - x1)^2 + (y2-y1)^2 +(z2-z1)^2. You can sol-ve for space or time in-ter-val.

Bad, sad Bureaucrat-scientist not know im-pli-ca-tion of co-or-din-ate frame ro-ta-ti-on. Please explain lack of know-ledge.
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Contrary to your belief Darby, you don't need one to get the other.

And thank you for pointing out this sentence as I mispoke...I meant to say there has been one landing on Mars by two men and a woman.

L. Grummond
 
Poster: Darby
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President Carter is in poor health.



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Big un-der-state-ment. Jimmy 104 years old.
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Darby,

You might want to do your research before you reply to any postings in the future...I believe President Carter is in his late 90s. I'm not sure of the exact age, but I can guarantee he is not 104.

L. Grummond
 
and can most likely play that game better than you can.
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i looked into a five year olds reponse-- (i Have three of them running around the house-- so It made it easy to do.


Again , I woke them up to see what they thought of your response----


None of them agree wih you -- The best response i heard was" where is my dinner?"

They do not care.


Kinda blows that out of the water..


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But onto the fun....


I only respoted here to check and respond to what you say--as any intelligent human being would do.
And give you a response to your earlier posting.

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I was hoping that the response was something --- even on a karmic level was what I was asking.... It wasnt---- but I recorded the conversation for posterity....

Even if i did it for myself-- because maybe I am crazy....

i have the luxury of 5 year old's...running around-- they just made a lot of noise..as always---

Oh well I guess you dont get everything you want...



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I did notice though that you0got0Darby-to-speak-like -this.

I still have no concencous among the 5 year olds --- that make sense to me--

I will have to review it further... I guess.
 
Contrary to your belief Darby, you don't need one to get the other.

And thank you for pointing out this sentence as I mispoke...I meant to say there has been one landing on Mars by two men and a woman.
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Silly Bureaucrat. Make self-serve post facto correction but not say why no know Min-kow-ski co-or-din-ate ro-tat-ion. Me know not need one to get other. They same. No space and time. Is spacetime. All one. Get scrambled up on ro-tat-ion.

Example x' = x cos Theta + y sin Theta. X' is all scrambled up x &amp; y. Ro-tat-ion.
 
however could not the very same thing occur if one day you simply decided to stop and count to 10 before you walked out your front door rather than just walking right out without the pause and heading to work? Using the same understanding, you may have just changed the course of your day and life and that of the world, no?
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I am constantly changing my timeline as we all are with our decisions. But we are talking about divergence from the line YOU remember. The line you remember did not have you back here talking to us. These new decisions we make has you in it where before it didn't. You cannot change the line anymore than each of us can but it will be different than what you remember because you are here
of course if you can go back to your same line things will be the same for you but our line will be forever changed. even if ever so slightly...because your presence has set off different ripples.

You have the ability to change things now where you didn't before because you were not here.
These slight changes you make by being here may be ever so slight or they may be major changes
depending what happens with the ripples and what they effect.

If you currently do a google search for John Titor he has 208,000 hits. He was here in 2000-2001
so after all this time he still has this many hits.
Not only that but he had some people in government agencies interested in him at one time. His story spread around the world into different countries where major scientists, labs including CERN etc. were made known of him by questions.

If he was a real time traveler he made some real ripples. Your story will probably not get that big but you are posting on the internet which has the possibility for anyone in the world to read it.
You could not possibly know how this may effect this timeline from your own because you have no idea
who may read it.
Your predictions then come down to probabilities and possibilies as John said. Some things may change... and maybe a lot.

You have to consider all of this as a time traveler. Your predictions may not come true like you think. Then you will be considered a liar ..even if you are telling the truth from your point of view. John, real or not was aware of this and even said so.
 
Re: October 7

Ok Kid last than 9 days that T*HTF???

Anyway...
A guy who experienced Argentina's collapse: what the first few days will be like:

Quoted:

First, make sure you have enough supplies ( food and water) to last for a couple of weeks at least. If you don’t, rush to the supermarket and buy it using credit card if they still accept it.

If you have enough food, stay put at home and keep track through the TV of what’s going on. Don’t go out there just to fool around.

IN our case, martial law and curfew at 8 PM was established, people could not gather in group greater than 2 or 3 persons, so it was not safe anyway. None the less, few obeyed all this crap, but it was still established so you know what you were dealing with if cops caught you.

The greatest need when the lootings started was means to defend yourself. Maybe that’s why I encourage everyone to make weapons part of their basic preparedness kits, right along with food, water, money, and medicines. We watched daily as the lootings spread everywhere, and when the mobs of distressed people started looting homes along with the supermarkets and shops, things got really scary. I watched such a mob pass about 15-20 yards from my home. At first I only heard drums ( used during the protests) but these protesters were also looting along the way. The mass of looters was huge, covered the entire street and sidewalk, all across as far as I could see, a block long or more.
So, having means to defend yourself is very important during the first days as well as later on, after the veil of fear of “punishment per crime” is removed from the society.

People that seem normal during “normal” times, unleash the animals they keep at bay during law abiding times. The evil among normal people also surprised me. Average Joe takes advantage of the possibility to loot without getting punished for it if he sees the chance. Hell, nothing people do surprises me anymore.

Then there was the need to get cash, which disappeared within hours from ATMs after banks closed. The “NO credit card” signs showed up instantly. Only cash. And cash was getting very hard to find.

Many supermarkets closed their doors, fearing looters, and those that were opened quickly started to run out of basic supplies.

more at:
most-important-need-in-first-few-days.html

in case of Bio-agent you need 2 silver dollars...for Colloidal Silver...
GLP-link

and
<font color="red"> eginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks. [/COLOR]

More at:
http://www.armytimes.com

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