John Titor FAKE

You know how you always talk about that tree of life thing. I noticed people who talk about that also bring up lotus flowers. I was reading this science article today on lotus leaves and how they scanned them under the electron microscope. The lotus leaves waxy surface is superhydrophobic (repelling water really well). Even though they are often in muddy areas the leaves tiny bumps makes water bead up into droplets that also pick up dirt and roll off of the leaves. This keeps the Lotus leaves always clean.

Then it showed how they were developing wet proof self cleaning products like food containers , stay dry bathing suits and self cleaning shoes. The best things are found in nature Rainman. The best inventions also come from imitating nature.

Did you know that If you dont have a thermometer handy you can count the number of chirps a cricket makes in 14 seconds and add 40 to get the temperature in degrees fahrenheit?

There are still amazing things to be discovered but I think the most amazing is already in nature.
A lot of answers are found there. They are just waiting to be discovered.
 
Hi Pamela,

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!! That John sure was smart.
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I agree. Hollywood writers (or someone destined to do that type of work) usually are! At least the good ones. But they often make technical errors that trucks can drive through. But in the entertainment biz, that doesn't matter too much.

I think he did it on purpose just to get a rise out of Rainman time later on.
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Well I'm not so gullible to think Titor's hoaxer didn't know just how silly this "prediction" of his was. I'm sure he was laughing when he wrote it, but probably gets bigger laughs from the people who would try to interpret it anyway they can just to believe. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

RMT
 
"I was not using this handle at the time Titor was here, but I assure you there are posts to him that were from me. If you are really clever (I am not holding out hope) you may be able to analyze the other posters and ID which one was me. So far, no one else has guessed correctly."

daviper?
 
LOL, I had only thrown that in there because of a comeback that RMT had said to titorite.

It sounded close to the argument that Javier and John were having.

Wanna see for the fun of it? Why sure...

Titorite: From our former super thread we both already know you manipulate truth to serve the points you desire to make regardlessly of the facts of the matter.

Rainmantime I could easily contest that with facts to prove I do not. But what would be more important would be for you to answer the question: Are you telling us that YOU do NOT do this thing you accuse me of? Ruthless has, indeed, pointed out that you do. "Hello kettle, this is the pot. You are black!"

<font color="blue"> Now for Javier and John:
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Javier: he does a maneuver that focuses the question back to the receiver, as to have him think it's been answered, and to shut him up. (Which in fact, he just avoided answering it, by doing what he did). He does this very often, and I'd just wanted to point that out before he did it again.

John: Hmmm….I am forced to admit I must rethink what I know about Mobius loops.


Not exact but funny:
To a goofball outsider like me, of course I see patterns, I bet this argument has been replayed over and over in a thousand threads.

Don't worry though, RMT crazy people don't know they are crazy.The conservation of energy would save them from the paradox, studies show.
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Recall has it also:
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Muhahahaha GOTCHA again recall.
 
I bet this argument has been replayed over and over in a thousand threads.
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You are correct it has been replayed but only over a few threads and way too much for my taste. It had been so long since RMT grew the courage to talk to me that I had forgotten why I do not talk to him and began to re-engage the cycle of futility. He is not here for intellectual enrichment or in hopes of maybe discovering and/or aiding the dream of time travel.

No RMT is here to argue plain and simple. It fills a void in his life somewhere that he does not explain and may not even be aware of.

But I am not here to argue. Sometimes I get swallowed into that trap but then I remember the classic saying: arguing online is like competing in the special olymipcs, no matter who wins at the end of the event you're still retarded.
 
Re: The end of Theory was:

am i?


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<font color="blue"> "All models are wrong, but some are useful."

So proclaimed statistician George Box 30 years ago, and he was right. But what choice did we have? Only models, from cosmological equations to theories of human behavior, seemed to be able to consistently, if imperfectly, explain the world around us. Until now. Today companies like Google, which have grown up in an era of massively abundant data, don't have to settle for wrong models. Indeed, they don't have to settle for models at all.

Sixty years ago, digital computers made information readable. Twenty years ago, the Internet made it reachable. Ten years ago, the first search engine crawlers made it a single database. Now Google and like-minded companies are sifting through the most measured age in history, treating this massive corpus as a laboratory of the human condition. They are the children of the Petabyte Age.

The Petabyte Age is different because more is different. Kilobytes were stored on floppy disks. Megabytes were stored on hard disks. Terabytes were stored in disk arrays. Petabytes are stored in the cloud. As we moved along that progression, we went from the folder analogy to the file cabinet analogy to the library analogy to — well, at petabytes we ran out of organizational analogies.

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read more:

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Re: The end of Theory was:

Oh, I read part of that also, but only part. The lines near the end of the speel, spell it all out. If you think Google is going to do science or that science should be done by consulting Google, good luck.

It still is the calculus. They are not going into detail with it only scratching the surface. And if funding is going to help prove anything like doing experiments, only probably part way. Until things are less determined by the use of money and the whims, I still think there were earlier times in the Past where determined people made more of an effort to delve deeply into the subject matters and of science. It was still put off by the ones who seek more politics than actually proof and proving the subject of science with real-in-depth thinking.

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The ruling of the Supreme Court is still BS. I can see limiting the use if someone has been a felon or something similiar. But the ruling of the Supreme Court is still BS, and of their own interpretation and that seems to be conservative where it is flatly determined that most citizens still do not have a brain in this Country, and they are just plain wrong. It is they who do not have a brain after all those years of college. College dropouts still continue to make more sense than some full college graduates, and that is fact.

Now, Supreme Court what the heck is Microsoft? Com'on Congress, suppressors of real religion along with only yours interpretations?

The rulings are usually bias, prejudice, and not even close to actually being anything religious or lawful still in this Country. But their own whims, and only their whims.

The Country (the USA) needs Statespersons, not all liberal off the wall opinionated, uncompassionate people running this Nation.

They still do not believe that only a few in this Nation are allowed to give Orders, and that needs the paperwork. They still run around thinking that any of them give Orders, and they do not. And that is the U.S. Constitution.

Get rid of the phonies running this Nation.

Now, you see how the Devil does his work in this world.

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That is the ruling of the Supreme Court on ownership of guns concerning the Second Amendment today and my own personal triade.

Simply put, the training sure is different, and most people are not trained to be deputized, but who then thought that most people would not want to be in the first place. That still may not mean that most people (in those States that have gun-carry laws) still may not ever think that self-defense still means gun-carry laws in this Nation. Like stated, there are something like 37 States that do allow gun-carry laws, while it was also stated that only 38 States are needed to make it into Federal Law that all States would have to submit to, if held-up to be permitted later.

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Now go drag yourself through time being frame-dragged along with an engine that really is not all the way in this world, or any worldline-but can access many more worldlines perhaps, and frame-drag you along not through space (even though translation of 4-vectors is still translation - it is also used in computer programming) for Space And Time are still distinct and different, yet can be combined, but dragging yourself more through Time is also allowed, (and also slowly in Space) as well as in SpaceTime.

It is nothing unusual, it happens everyday that you are in this inertial frame of reference right here on Planet Earth. The space around this Planet is frame-dragged along and has been for a very long time.

Now, grant it, all of that will have to be proved to be anything useful in the future, and it will rely on only science and assorted other tools used in the Trade of getting from here to there in any useful sense of the word, or act, or life.
 
Re: The end of Theory was:

Oh, and of course, the people in the Govmit, still think that they are doing more meaningful wisdom with the way that they think --- but really are they?

Or, who is really afraid of the Big Bad Wolf mostly in this Nation?

Maybe is not really 'Is' is what it ends up. No, I do not submit that I have the answers either, but still, those people are getting paid for it, and you think they would fear foreign Nations more then it seems that they Fear the people in this Nation. (most people). I just in my opinion do not think that they are actually thinking deeply enough, although thinking too deeply about anything may not be useful to have enough time for, but still..............................either you spend the time thinking sometimes that way, or you end up with a shallow unuseful end perhaps.

And then some of these people bring up safety and security -- about what? -- their own personal personifications.

Somewhere along the way, science is not suppose to ever be that way, perhaps it still is not, perhaps it is -- politics a little too much.

Yes, they run this Nation, but still...............................Everyone has to Grow a Brain, perhaps?
Perhaps not.

Well, off I go, I really should be working harder at some things I want to consider. Yes, it will strain my brain, but then, remember there are other people who will not strain their brain ever and never have in their life. Only partly, so perhaps that is all I can do also.

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Poster: ruthless
Subject: Re: John Titor FAKE

im guessing thats wrong, but the guy sure acts alot like you. maybe time0212?

c'mon man, just tell us!!!
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I noticed he is still avoiding you.

He is playing hard to get. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/loveit.gif
 
Poster: TimeNot_0
Subject: Re: John Titor FAKE

I am not saying much, I guess they are though.
I am sure that I read this one before, but must of forgot that it was tied in to those quasi-particles.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19325954.200
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Your not too far off TimeNot:


Take a look at what these guys are doing with quantum computing: Rememeber me saying that is if this process was carried out in a gas, but if it is bumped makes it unstable?
These guys cracked that!

In this month's Physical Review Letters, a group of researchers from Israel report using EIT to store images, while in last week's Science Express, researchers from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) describe utilizing EIT to create spatially entangled images. These two reports are really two sides of the same coin, and coincidently, report on two important aspects of quantum computing—storing, retrieving, and processing large numbers of quantum bits.

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Source:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080626-three-dimensional-qubits-on-the-way.html


Here is the jist...

They had a cute trick, however, to overcome this problem. Light also has a phase property and, if two light beams of the wrong phase are overlapped, the result is complete darkness.

Should I have moved this to another thread instead? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Poster: Kanigo2
Subject: Re: John Titor FAKE

In reply to:
"they" (TPTB) are going to orchestrate the whole "die on the cross and resurrect after 3 days"?




As for Clinton and her Chances, Obama would more than likely be involved in a plane crash-he is a rock star, isn't he? That wouldn't be the first time people have mysteriously died in plane crashes around The Clinton's. It lays guilt squarely on unfortunate circumstances and If she waits possible the blame can be transferred to McCain and the neoconservative. That is the most likely scenario IMHO
I am still not sure if a scenario like that would allow her to "step up" completely. but...
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/30/campaign.wrap/index.html

Making a BIG DEAL about a plane here......

His campaign on Monday unveiled his new campaign airplane, a Boeing 737-400.
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The aircraft shares its name -- the "Straight Talk Express" with McCain's campaign bus, which has been a staple of the candidate's 2000 and 2008 campaigns.

The 95-seat plane -- with seats for the candidate, his staffers and the press -- has the "Straight Talk Express" logo emblazoned on its fuselage
 
a Boeing 737-400...

The aircraft shares its name -- the "Straight Talk Express" with McCain's campaign bus, which has been a staple of the candidate's 2000 and 2008 campaigns.
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Not to be morose but there's one huge difference between a 737-400 and an A4-E. When LCDR John McCain III was shot down he was able to punch out of his Skyhawk. I don't think (and I could be wrong) that there is a Martin-Baker system for Senators on a 737.


Ray...

Any thoughts here?
 
well Glad to see your not dead. Can't wait to see what you have to say in two months.
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Well let's see...


In two months I'll most likely say, "If I be alive what am I doing in this box and if I be dead why do I have to pee so bad?"

(I can't take credit for the quip. I believe that the line was delivered by Boris Karloff (Jonathan Brewster), as a (possibly) enebriated ad-lib during a performance of Arsenic &amp; Old Lace on Broadway circa 1941-42.)
 
Well I'm not so gullible to think Titor's hoaxer didn't know just how silly this "prediction" of his was. I'm sure he was laughing when he wrote it, but probably gets bigger laughs from the people who would try to interpret it anyway they can just to believe.

RMT
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But he was taken seriously at the time, right? He was kind of different. That's why he became so popular.

Looking at a few links clearly shows this.

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=time_travel&amp;Number=9086&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb=&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp;vc=1
 
Trex,

Looking at a few links clearly shows this.

http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&amp;Board=time_travel&amp;Number=9086&amp;page=&amp;view=&amp;sb=&amp;o=&amp;fpart=1&amp;vc=1
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It's funny that you chose the "other" thread as an example of how TTO was received and how he was "different". Few people ever refer to that thread.

Take note of "Trott" on the thread. That's Dr. David Trott, PhD Physics/Astronomy. Dave was a bit more than a "physics student" when he was posting. He was in the final stages of his PhD program.

Notice how TTO "answered" Dave's questions. In fact he didn't. Trott continued the questioning on "Limited to 11 Pages?" and TTO continued to dodge answering. After Trott posted the following to me:

Trott
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RE: Topics Limited to 11 Pages? [re: TimeTravel_0]
03/08/01 09:13 AM (000.000.000.000) Edit Reply



Darby,
I am a physics doctoral student at an american university. I do not have time to sit around and spin some elaborate web of a story of being a time traveller on multiple websites. I am much more interested in factual and experimental information than fictional story telling. I do occasional come to this site to see if anyone has the slightest glimmer as to what they are talking about. So far, I have not seen any indication of that. And for that reason, I have neglected to post the information I have concerning the subject.

As far as John Titor or TT_0 is concerned, I believe that I shined a light on a hole in his story awhile back. The fact that he added that he could not complete a 0 divergent trip meant that he could not return to his timeline and hence a mission into the past to help his people was logically flawed. In fact, since I posted that, his postings have been infrequent and sparse.
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TTO made one more non-response post to Trott, then posted some really bad physics in another post to Trott and then announced his good-bye.

TimeTravel_0






RE: Topics Limited to 11 Pages? [re: TimeTravel_0]
03/08/01 04:37 PM (000.000.000.000) Edit Reply



((Your argument as to my point was not sufficient. You suggested that an alternate you would most likely return to your world line. It just does not seem logical for one to go back in time on a mission for their world line only to return to an alternate worldline where the mission goal may or may not have bearing if completed.
By the way, the Kerr ring singularity is a spacetime possessing CLOSED timelike curves. You would clearly need a naked singularity so that the chronology violating region would not be hidden behind the event horizon.))
As you are aware, approaching a rotating singularity can be done quite easily without experiencing the negative side effects of a massive gravitational field and it’s very possible to “pass” through the center of the ring. Besides, if you did need a naked singularity, all you would have to do is increase the rotation or electric charge so the inner even horizon equals the diameter of the outer event horizon.

I realize my posts here have become tiresome and my “story” is old so If I don’t post it’s not because I don’t enjoy the physics debate. If you’re interested, I will be posting more pages from the manual and a cut-a-way drawing of the distortion unit.
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The above is really bad physics. Avoiding the gravitational tidal forces of a ring singluarity is possible if you have a really, really huge ring to pass through. Huge as in tens of thousands of kilometers in radius. But tidal forces are only a small part of the problem. Electrodynamics doesn't disappear, for instance, simply because someone says the magic word "Kerr-Newmann Black Hole". A KNBH, which is what Titor described, is a ball of gravity, mass and electrical charge. It is a description of hell on Earth in the ring...except Earth can't make a thunder &amp; lightning storm to match a KNBH ring interior. Then you have compressive forces as light and any other form of mass-energy-field enters the ring and is almost infinitely blue shifted due to the relativistic effects of the gravitation. You might bump up against a Blue Sheet - a solid wall of photonic energy. And then there's the problem of stability. The ring is unstable. Any matter in-falling causes the ring to collapse. That's why Kip Thorne "invented" the idea of exotic matter for Carl Sagan so that Sagan's physics in "Contact" made sense. You have to line the interior of the ring with exotic matter - matter with a mass less than zero - to stabilize the ring. And last there's relativity. As you accelerate toward the ring it appears that it forever lies in your future light cone. You just can't quite reach it before it collapses even with exotic matter lining.

Yes, these are all theories that haven't been verified by experiment - and may never be verified by experiment. But Titor chose the wrong sort of physicist to quibble with over black holes. Black holes are central, not to physics per se but specifically to astronomy. And Dave is an astronomer.

And he must have realiuzed...Oops! I just posted that crap to a physicist because his very next post was:

TimeTravel_0






RE: Topics Limited to 11 Pages? [re: TimeTravel_0]
03/10/01 09:35 PM (000.000.000.000) Edit Reply

Dear Fellow Time Travelers:

In about 30 days, I will be leaving this worldline to return home to 2036. I first want to say thank you for the wonderful conversation and insight into your society. I have learned a great deal and my opinion on quite a few things has changed dramatically.

I will finish the questions that have been posted on this site up to this date. Unfortunately, I must now spend my spare time preparing to leave and I will not be on the computer very much. I do however want to repeat my offer and add a slight twist.

After going over my flight plan home, I have discovered my VGL holdover period is a bit longer than I expected. I will be spending at least three weeks in April of 1998 as I make my way back to 1975. Therefore, I not only offer you the chance to leave a message to yourself in 2036 but I offer you the chance to leave yourself a message in 1998. I will take any compiled messages and email addressees you provide and send them on the net when I get to 1998.

Granted, this will not affect you on your worldline now but you make take some comfort that another “you” on another worldline has the advantage of knowing something you wish you knew three years ago. Based on the earlier questions I’ve seen, I’ve decided a day-to-day record of the Dow a day in advance should convince you that the messages are real in 1998.

In addition, I am hopeful a series of photocopies and photographs will be available for you that may give you more insight into the technology of the distortion unit. I will let you know the address of the site when it is available. I also plan to have my parents videotape my departure. If they succeed, it will also be posted after I leave.

I look forward to these last few weeks with my family and I will check in periodically to check this site.

Live in Peace 2001,
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Oh, BTW,,,

There was no video and there was no day-to-day record of the Dow a day in advance should convince you that the messages are real in 1998.

What there was, however, was a sudden switch from his earlier "I'll never reveal gambling outcomes or financial outcomes" as well as a sudden switch from "I don't care if you believe me" to "[should] convince you that the messages are real in 1998".

TTO-Titor was a lot cooler than the rest. But "the rest" are wanna-bes who are attempting to copy Titor. But he was quite similar to "the rest" in the end. All of them, Titor included, tend to lose focus - as well as their grip - on the story once the Q&amp;A starts to seriously narrow the story down to an implausible hoax backed up with some sufficient documentation...generally supplied by the hoaxer him/herself.
 
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