I've Gone back 2000 YEARS

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Ollie,

Agreed: we both have different opinions, so we'll agree to disagree.

And Demsys, I have studied Biblical Greek, some Latin and some modern Hebrew. I know what Aramaic sounds like (The Passion of Christ film by Mel Gibson was in this language) and I'd have to say that Jesus was probably speaking Hebrew or Aramaic.

Knowing Jesus, I'd probably say Hebrew, because much of what Jesus said on the Cross was actual quotes from the Book of Psalms.

His voice was unique: a deep, strong voice, yet it had a softeness about it because it was filled with love. Immense love.

Whats comforting I guess is that everyone will one day have that encounter with Jesus. As it is written, "At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Phil.2:9-11.)

Everyone will have to give Jesus His due oneday and how glorious it will be for those who sought Him and followed Him.
 
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Whats that folks? *buzzer* ooh, sorry, wrong answer.

Jesus spoke in Aramaic, not only that, but the hebrew spoken then is pretty much nothing like the hebrew people speak today, I know, I'm fluent in both (and I can read Aramaic pretty darn well too). Ancient Hebrew, aka Lashon HaKodesh, was a language written by god and transcribed in the holy bible that is the old testament, so much so in fact that there are words that have no meaning outside the realm of the old testament, god just made words up, but it's ok, he's god.

I'm not gonna get into why I don't like jesus, that's for another time and place (you can PM me if you want), but suffice to say, a couple of nice words written hundreds of years after a guy died isn't convincing enough for me. Suffice to say, in his last moments... in this reality, the power of speech had left jesus as far as the aramaic texts I could find depicted of him (if you're ever in the the land of israel I'll show AND translate where it says that, all for one low low price) apparently, stories like to be told, and people like to worship heroes.

Suffice to say, there is no way you could have seen anything you say you did simply because it wasn't the way it happened. Unless several books that are a lot older than you are, and have been discussed for the last 2000 years or longer, are wrong. Might I add, one of these books would have had to be written by GOD HIMSELF. Just a note, if you say you saw the crucifiction as you say you did, then god does not exist and therefore there would have been no crucifiction... Ooh, sorry about that. Looks like you should look elsewhere to peddle your BS.

P.S. For the record, I can tell you offhand the last words jesus spoke when he died, just in case you'd wanna know...
 
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Actually,

I was there, you weren't...I've time travelled, you haven't. I'd know, you wouldn't.

And, everything about the life of Jesus was written in the Old Testament: the incarnation of God, His crucifixtion, everything. You can PM me if you want and I'll quote it chapter and verse.
 
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I think the thing you are missing is that your 'story' has had many holes picked in it. You fell for my trap regards hebrew etc, and funnily enough, it was someone else who sprung the trap before me.
Also your name suggests the character Thomas Covenant, from the same novels.

Anyways, as an afterthought, do you believe in evolution?
 
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Haha, the OLD TESTAMENT says the following in ancient hebrew:

Jesus's mother was not a virgin.

Jesus, if anything, was to be nothing more than the marker that a war didn't happen.

Jesus was a fool and a heretic (in the truest biblical forms of the word) (though that is from the talmud actually, aramaic)

There is NO mention of the crucifiction ANYWHERE in the old testament as it was written about..... the old testament doesn't waste its time with heretics and fools.

Go read your own holy doctrine, the new testament, oooh ressurection, you got two different people speaking of it about 200 years apart, who each have different accounts. Sounds pretty divine to me.

Your 'time travel' experience is nothing more than a pretty joke, with the information I've researched in and out of the old testament I could better recreate the crucifiction than Mel Gibson. You've just provided a nice thought as to what you would think it was like.

Don't speak unless you have your facts straight. I could say I was at the beaches of Normandy during WWII and there were no german soldiers, just monkeys in uniform throwing bullets at us. That wouldn't make a lot of people happy, it also would be going against pretty much everything we know about the battle at Normandy or... well, about life in general... But I can say 'I was there, where were you?' ... that doesn't quite justify it, now does it?

And why don't you quote your all holy sources right here so that everyone can see? why just show me? why am I any more worthy than the next? ... please, post your sources, see what I make of them.
 
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Nitescott sets up his deckchair and cracks open a Tooheys Larger.

"Quick everyone!" - He yells. "IgnorantSentient is gonna have a beat-up with a nutbag!"

"Who wants a cornchip?"
 
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IgnorantSentient,

How fitting your name is, for truly you are ignorant of the Scriptures! For thousands of years the truth has been staring Jews in the face, and yet the Scriptures remained closed to them.

There are over 300 prophesies of the first coming of the Messiah and 500 of His return, but I will just quote a few.

The Birth Place Prophesy: 7- Born in Bethlehem:

"But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from ancient times." (Mic.5:2)

Fulfillment:

"Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem. (Mt.2:1)

That the Messiah would be God Incarnate:

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, MIGHTY GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of [his] government and peace [there shall be] no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this."(Is. 9:6-7)

Fulfillment: "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (Jhn 1:14)

That the Messiah would be betrayed:

"Even my close friend, whom I trusted, he who shared my bread, has lifted up his heel against me." (Ps.41:9)

" I told them, "If you think it best, give me my pay; but if not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver." (Zec.11:12)

Fulfillment: -

"Then Judas Iscariot, one of the Twelve, went to the chief priests to betray Jesus to them. (Mk.14:10)

-
"Judas asked "What are you willing to give me if I hand him over to you?" So they counted out for him thirty silver coins. (Mt 26:15

That God would be crucified:

" They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son." (Zec.12:10)

Fulfillment:

"One of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water."(Jn 19:34)

And many many more. Psalm 22 and Isaiah 53 stand out so clearly, anyone reading them would think that they were reading the New Testament. I quote these two in full, and remember readers, these prophesies were written hundreds of years prior to the Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ.


Psalm 22
For the director of music. To the tune of "The Doe of the Morning." A psalm of David.

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.

3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel. [a]

4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.

5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.

6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.

7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:

8 "He trusts in the LORD;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."

9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.

10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.

11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.

12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.

13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.

14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.

15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.

16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced [c] my hands and my feet.

17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.

18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.

19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.

20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.

21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save [d] me from the horns of the wild oxen.

22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.

23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!

24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.

25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you [e] will I fulfill my vows.

26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him—
may your hearts live forever!

27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,

28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.

29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him—
those who cannot keep themselves alive.

30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.

31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn—
for he has done it.

Isaiah 53

Isaiah 53
1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.

3 He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.

5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.

6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.

8 By oppression [a] and judgment he was taken away.
And who can speak of his descendants?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was stricken.

9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes [c] his life a guilt offering,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.

11 After the suffering of his soul,
he will see the light of life [d] and be satisfied [e] ;
by his knowledge [f] my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, [g]
and he will divide the spoils with the strong, [h]
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.

May Our Lord Jesus Christ open the Scriptures to you: its all there, black and white! 3000 years after King David, and the Jews are still waiting for the Messiah. Read the Bible: HE ALREADY CAME! I hope that you will understand this...because only in Christ can salvation be received.
 
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First off, as I have already said, the new testament is just ridiculous as most of what was written in there was written years, if not hundred of years, after Jesus's death. how can you trust anything there? I could write something as accurate.

second, if you look at the psalm of david you quoted, in ancient hebrew every time you write 'our LORD' in nice capital letters you neglect that it says 'our god, and the god of our forefathers' i doubt jesus was the god of those who came before them. nice try though.

the stuff in Isaiah 53 is another post in its own, one where i need a bible in front of me... i'll be back later with that.
 
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Maybe you should forget it mate!

This guy is just gonna go on and on quoting the bible. You can’t argue with a brainwashed, bible bashing, happy clapping wantabe preacher!

They love any opportunity to say “Halleluiah! Prayzzzz De Lord!” and any argument that differs to their own point of view is the trigger for their preaching dribble to start.

Corkhead just wants to make a religious point.

Next he will be saying that “We was all created and therefore any mention of evolution is redundant - Halleluiah! Prayzzzz De Lord”.

I have my own beliefs also and I believe that …

“Dis man be a brainwashed fool who believes that he has SEEN DE LIGHT and gone back in time to meet ... CHEEZUS ... YES THAT’S RIGHT CHEEZUS! ... AND I MEAN SWISS CHEEZUZ! ... CAUSE IT’S HOLY!!! ... - Halleluiah! Prayzzzz De Lord”.

Here, have another corn chip!

-“Burp!”-

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Oh Ignorant one,

My quotes were from the Hebrew Bible, Our Old Testament, and they mentioned: God incarate, a Child called 'Mighty God', 'Everlasting Father'. Funny, you didn't comment on that.

Also from the Old Testament, God saying "They will look on Me whom they have PIERCED." Again, funny you didn't comment on that.

And in terms of the dating of the New Testament: even the most out there dates place the entire NT within the 1st century AD, not centuries after.

Truly you are the Ignorant ONE!

And nitescott, I only wish you knew what it was like to have a personal relationship with the God of heaven and earth. I can't feel anger for you: only pity.
 
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Haha, first, I should put what you have is the english translation of a 3000 year old document. Any linguist will tell you that you lose about 40% in any translation with languages TODAY. In japanese, there is no real future or past tense as we would see it, in french you have the male and female infinitive, in ancient hebrew you have a set of rules that just are... you lose so much. Such as : 'A child called mighty god,' I looked it up, in lashon hakodesh its "Oh mighty god of my children, the (people of) Israel" ... same goes with the rest of the quotes, I'm not gonna waste my time anymore. Nike's right.

and I should point out, 'OUR old testament?' haha. I don't quite think so. god never gave the old testament to the christians, he held a mountain over the heads of his chosen people who, well, accepted the bible for more reasons than being crushed. You on the other hand were given no such thing. Moreso I would look around the time of the great flood in the bible, you should look up a specific part talking about the 'Sheva Mitzvos B'nei Noach' ... basically, you're not jewish, you have 7 laws to follow, get out of our hair. There are people who follow this law, but then again I guess you're better than god.

Check again on the dating of when the NT was written in its entirety... I wouldn't be too sure on what you say.

One last point before I just throw my computer into the wall, lets just say for arguments sake, Jesus woke from the dead and just did come back to life, say he was the messiah. The first thing he'd do is put on his skullcap and walk into synogauge. He'd be sitting next to me in prayer, not giving sermons in a church. I also would like to think that if you walk into a building and see depictions of the way you died and people saying 'oh please let us worship you' then even you would get a bit spooked. Especially if, before you die, one of your last wishes would be NOT to have a religion made of your teachings.... but hey... maybe that's just me.
 
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Oh Ignorant One,

As Our Lord Jesus Christ said to the Jews,

"You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life." (John 5:39-40)

The Scriptures only have life insofar that they lead us to Jesus, because He is the Life of the World.

Jesus was a Jew, the Apostles were Jewish, and they knew the Scriptures. The quotes I have given were also quoted by the Apostles-so, its not like its an English mistranslation. Its not.

In terms of Jesus and Judaism, listen to what He Himself said,

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." (Mt 5: 17-18)

A great Jewish Rabbi of the 20th century knew this. His name was Israel Zolli, Chief Rabbi of Rome. He began to read the New Testament and gradually came to recognize Jesus as his Friend, as his Messiah. In 1945, while presiding over a Yom Kippor ceremony in Rome, he had a vision of Jesus. His entire family then converted to Christianity, and he took the name 'Eugenio', in honor of Pope Pius XII, whose real name was Eugenio Pacelli.

You can read Rabbi Zolli's story in 'Before the Dawn' his autobiography.

I reccomend that you read it: every Jew should.


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I cannot believe that you would post something to further your own idocy... I am just struck with awe here.

A rabbi that converted in 1945.... do you know what was going on in 1945.... are you the dumbest person on the planet? I have the urge to use so many expletives that I would no doubt be banned from the internet as we know it. You are just an idiot. Anything said by any 'rabbi' who converted in that time period is a sham. I have been to Rome myself, I can tell you after visiting the Jewish ghetto and seeing the Jewish community as it is today, and studying its past. The last of the even semi-credible jews that lived there were there sometime between 1914-1924. After that the community was lost, even before that it was a shell of what it was, since around 1100.

And once again I cannot believe you are going by a book written by your own admittance up to a century after jesus's death (i still contest that it is more though). I bet you couldnt tell me what you had for breakfast a month ago today, let alone what a dead guy said a hundred years ago. OK, lets say you believe in what you wrote, you do know the old testament specificially prohibits eating pork and shellfish, it says it right in there that you shouldnt. Do you?? Do you follow all 613 commandments given to the jews listed throughout the old testament? or do you just ignore those and listen to the pretty stories and morals, and ignore the law that god gave down.
 
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I remember what someone once told me, namely that the vast majority of Jews are completely ignorant of Jesus Christ and of the history of Christianity. After reading your posts, I believe it.

I can't enter into dialogue with someone who doesn't even have the basic knowledge through which to argue with. So, I'm gonna end it here.

Come back when you've

a) Read the New Testament and

B) Read some of the history of Christianity.

If you don't do that, its like talking to a brick wall.

All I can say is that I've heard God the Father's voice, I've seen Jesus Christ crucified and yes, I have seen the great prophet Moses. All of which confirms 100% the truth of the Christian faith and error of the Jews who continue in their perfidity.

I am a time traveller and what I'm talking about is so far above your understanding. All I can do is hope you read the New Testament yourself and be open to the power of the Holy Spirit.

Go with God.
 
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What was the scene?
Were there a lot of people around?
Where was Mary?
Were there Roman guards?
Was it outside the town walls or inside?
Was it on a hill?
Did you see the two criminals also on crosses?
What did it smell like?

Were you afraid the Roman guards would grab you? You think they would after seeing a guy in jeans and a T-Shirt in 33ad, right?

Were the nails through his palms or wrists?
Were his feet nailed together; were there three nails or four?
Was he a bloody mess?
Was he naked?

Most importantly- what did Jesus look like- the tall white man with a beard?
Did Jesus look at you? You'd think He would have known you were a time traveller.

As to everyone who is trying to debunk this guy, you won't succeed, you'll only push him away. I believe it was a vision; you weren't physically there. That is, unless you remember the specific details. For example, no one knows the exact spot where Jesus was crucified- can you solve this for us? Also- did you see the temple of Mecca there as well, it was a block or two away from Golgolitha (sp?), the spot where you were. How about King Solomon's Temple- was that there?
 
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Hahahaha. Let me clarify something: I have a copy of the NT by my bed, I go through it every now and then. I should add though, as I have tried to make clear in my voice, I do not believe it is a historically acurate document, nor does it have any sort of 'divine aura' unlike the old testament, given to gods chosen people. There are nice stories in the NT, but other than that it's pretty ridiculous.

I like your post though. Essentially this is what I got out of it: I'm a time traveller so therefore I know the truth about religion and because I know the truth about religion, that validates my idea of time travel. I'm right, you're wrong, and I'm better than you.

You're like a two year old, you keep misquoting things because you dont know the language. Then you quote things that were written by human hands instead of by god. I have no problem with any religion and I am completely open and understanding to them, but when people get basics wrong and then go ahead and blame the other guy, that's just stupidity.
 
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Hi and thankyou for your support. It was indeed a 'vision of the night' but the Holy Spirit made clear that I had indeed travelled in time and was present.

For most of your questions I can't provide the details because when I was present it was in the final moments of Jesus' life, and as the Bible said, darkness was over the entire land. You could only see the outline of Christ when the lightning was striking.

From the outline, I would say that the cross was about 2.5 meters in length. You could see that He had a beard, and his features correspond with the image on the Shroud of Turin: he had a crown of thorns and a typical Jewish nose.

He was not naked, and from the way that His right knee stuck out, I would say that His right foot was nailed to His left foot.

I'm sure Jesus was aware of my presence at the Cross, because He willed it. But I'm also sure that He was aware of every single human being who ever was or was to be. He was dying for every person that we might have salvation.

I didn't see anyone but Jesus: He was the focus. So I can't say what the people looked like, but I can say that there was no 'Temple of Mecca', as in 33AD the Temple of Solomon was still present and Islam didn't arrive for 600 more years.

In terms of the 'exact spot' where Jesus was crucified, I would say from my own investigations that the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jersualem is accurate. It also 'feels' like the place where I was.

I hope this answers some of your questions!
 
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Oh, now I understand. Re-reading your original post you write:

"I have time travelled back 2000 years. I was present for the crucifixtion of Jesus Christ."

then write:

"The reasons for the dream are no doubt purely theological and deal with my own destiney."

So it was a dream, you weren't actually there.

As to your most recent comments:

>I can't provide the details because when I was present it was in the final moments of Jesus' life, and as the Bible said, darkness was over the entire land.<

The Bible says it or you saw it? Are you quoting scripture or recalling your dream?

>You could only see the outline of Christ when the lightning was striking.<

And there was absolutely nothing else to see... AT ALL. You can't answer ANY of the dozen-plus questions I asked you, right? You can't tell me if ANYONE was around AT ALL.

>From the outline, I would say that the cross was about 2.5 meters in length. You could see that He had a beard, and his features correspond with the image on the Shroud of Turin: he had a crown of thorns and a typical Jewish nose.<

So he was the typical depiction of Christ, just like the Shroud of Turin. That does it for me- Jesus is really Michaelangelo, because that's whose face is on that Shroud, which is carbon dated at least a thousand years ad from the organic fiber of the shroud that it's made of.

>He was not naked, and from the way that His right knee stuck out, I would say that His right foot was nailed to His left foot.<

So glad you shared this with us all because it's physically impossible to nail two feet with one nail. Jesus' feet were on the opposing sides of the cross with a nail through each of his legs, crucification entails four nails, not three. If three were used, assuming the Roman guard had that level of physiological expertise, He would have fallen off the cross within 15 minutes. Finally, nails from the first century are simply too short to go through two ankles.

>there was no 'Temple of Mecca', as in 33AD the Temple of Solomon was still present and Islam didn't arrive for 600 more years.<

Mecca is the spot where God told Abraham to sacrifice his son, Mecca is the oldest "place" in all of the Bible, it was very much a shrine in 33ad. A big shrine too. 600 years later it became a Muslim shrine but at that time it was a HUGE Jewish temple. And for the record, that is why Jesus went to Jerusalem in the first place.

The "Temple of Solomon" is where the Arc of the Covenant is housed. It's a building there is no archeological evidence for. But if it did exist, it would be scores of miles away from there in Iraq somewhere, but most inherently, it clearly was not there at that time, we have road maps from 33ad that account for all the square footage inside town.

>In terms of the 'exact spot' where Jesus was crucified, I would say from my own investigations that the site of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jersualem is accurate. It also 'feels' like the place where I was.<

This is pretty simple- were you IN TOWN or OUTSIDE OF TOWN. If you were in town, you'd be standing on one of the main roads, there'd be houses and people everywhere around you. If you were outside town, you'd see a town surrounded by a wall and no people or roads around. It's pretty easy.

And finally, I am the closest thing you will come to a believer in your story and I find it extremely lacking. You don't even know what happened to you, whether it was a dream or an event, you have absolutely no details apart from the inaccurate details that are in the Bible and quite frankly, you're making no sense.
 
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No, I time traveled. Astral travel is an out of body experience that occurs while people are in an unconscious state we call 'dreaming'. My astral traveling was also through time. 2000 years through time to be exact.

The details of the crucifixion I gave are accurate. I saw what I saw, not what you wanted me to see.

And in terms of 'making no sense', I think that applies to YOU. Mecca is in Saudi Arabia, not Jerusalem. The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem is on the Temple Mount, where the Temple of Solomon stood and there is PLENTY of historical and archeological evidence to say it was there. Historically, we have the Bible's account of its construction, Roman records and the history of Josephus. Archeologically, we have part of the western wall of the temple still in Jerusalem, which is the most sacred site in Judaism.

Where are you getting all this 'Mecca' and 'Iraq' nonsense from? You are so inaccurate that I find you intellectually lacking. Pick up a history book and read it. Until then, I'm afraid that you make ZERO sense and I can't enter into dialogue with someone who makes no sense. Its like talking to a brick wall.
 
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