Following John Titor

Re: WHERE IS JOHN TITOR EPISODE 6: The Habers

Actually I was on here quite some years back and am not a noobie. I just cannot for the life of me remember what user name I used.
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Ahh, OK, well welcome back then! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif The search function is pretty good. If you can recall some of the stuff you talked about, or some of the people you talked to, you ought to be able to figure it out in pretty short order.

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Re: WHERE IS JOHN TITOR EPISODE 6: The Habers

Well, let us all bang our heads against the wall after that interview with Larry Haber. NOT!
Where do people get their information when the 'posts' Titor made are still on the Internet????????????????????????

Something is perhaps taking brain grey matter away from people, the rest of us must have to do something about it - nah!
 
Re: WHERE IS JOHN TITOR EPISODE 6: The Habers

Ray,

Though they didn't bring out any new information in the interview at least one interesting fact did come out. A somewhat portly Larry Haber is enjoying a cigar at the Backroom Cigar Corp - just as Mr. Fat Fingers in the Bent Laser photo was enjoying his cigar and blowing smoke to highlight the laser for us.
 
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Though they didn't bring out any new information in the interview at least one interesting fact did come out. A somewhat portly Larry Haber is enjoying a cigar at the Backroom Cigar Corp - just as Mr. Fat Fingers in the Bent Laser photo was enjoying his cigar and blowing smoke to highlight the laser for us.
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Ah, yes, well.... of course, it must be just a coincidence, right? I mean lots of people like cigars, right? It's either that or there was some sort of timeline divergence that, errrrr, uhhhhh, yeah that explains it! Timeline divergence is such that Larry could not possibly be the guy in the laser photo. There...that fixes that!


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Re: WHERE IS JOHN TITOR EPISODE 6: The Habers

not to mention richard looks just like the guy in the pic...
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That one might be a bit of a reach. We don't see any details other than a general outline of the upper body and the Fat Fingers. It generally covers both Larry and Richard, at least as they now appear. We don't have any photos of Richard from 2000-2001. We do have photos of Larry and his body hasn't changed much since then. I don't believe that it's a valid interpretation of the evidence that we have that it's definitely Richard (or Larry) in the photo.

The other bit of evidence is that in the video from the cigar shop Larry is smoking a cigar. Richard isn't. He may or may not be a cigar smoker. The only evidence we have says Larry is the cigar smoker.
 
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Although its not impossible, the whole Titor thing is just a tad too professional --I'm talking about the pictures and props-- for pure amateurs. There has to be an ad agency at the center of this--they have knowledge of where to get props. And don't rule out governmental involvement--that in itself would make the Habers leery of being forthright. The whole thing might have been an experiment involving use of the internet for disinformation purposes.
 
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Although its not impossible, the whole Titor thing is just a tad too professional --I'm talking about the pictures and props-- for pure amateurs.
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There was an ad agency "at the center of this". The JTF's original address was 606 Front St, Celebration, FL. That was also Larry Haber's law office address as well as VISI Corp's address. Larry was Chief Counsel for VISI. VISI was a multi-media ad agency and had, on site, a sound studio, video production studio and print media studio. All hi-tech state-of-the-art. It would be a snap for the agency to produce the documents and props.

I don't buy the "disinformation" conspiracy weirdness. What I do buy is that the Titor Saga came on the heals of The Blair Witch Project, released in 1999. It was likely an indie attempt to use the Internet to match Blair Witch, the largest grossing indie film ever as a ratio of cost vs gross income (4000X expense, $35k vs $140m).
 
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Nevermind that. Whoever made the story liked The Terminator a lot. A soldier sent back in time after a nuclear war? John Connor. John Titor. Come on. Why would anyone fall for that?
 
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There's another issue that piqued my interest as I watched the interview with Larry Haber. It was his dress. T-shirt and shorts. He was being interviewed in film knowing that Eyesview would be releasing the video on the Internet and he decided to dress as informal as possible. The problem is, if we believe his story, he was representing the legal and business interests of his client. There is no Larry Haber interest involved in any of this, again assuming that he's being truthful about his involvement in the John Titor Foundation.

The lack of decorum while "representing his client" begs the question as to whether or not the Client was present at the interview.
 
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Whoever made the story liked The Terminator a lot.
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Not to mention Back To The Future. Time machine in a DeLorean sports car---time machine in a Corvette.

Did you know that Titor's time machine,including the apparatus that kept the mini black holes contained was battery powered? I believe that if the power failed there was said to be the possibility of a multiple kiloton explosion. Pimp that ride! :D
 
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Not to mention Back To The Future. Time machine in a DeLorean sports car---time machine in a Corvette.

Did you know that Titor's time machine,including the apparatus that kept the mini black holes contained was battery powered? I believe that if the power failed there was said to be the possibility of a multiple kiloton explosion. Pimp that ride!
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You know what would be funny? If the titor story was a hoax by a real time traveler. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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You know what would be funny? If the titor story was a hoax by a real time traveler.

That would be a perfect cover. :D

Like the guilty person pretending to be guilty but making the story wrong to throw off the police.
 
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I don't buy the "disinformation" conspiracy weirdness. What I do buy is that the Titor Saga came on the heals of The Blair Witch Project, released in 1999.
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It seems hard to believe that "The Blair Witch Project" was that long ago. I keep forgetting that the Titor saga was unfolding while I was a few miles away in New Port Richey. :D
 
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You know what would be funny? If the titor story was a hoax by a real time traveler.
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Or, a real time traveler journeys to the year 2000 and looks for evidence of John Titor's hoax or credibility. While waiting around for Titor to show up, she anonymously interacts with people online and accidentally alters the future. Once she realizes her mistake, she travels back to a time just before her faux pas. Jumping too close to her original 4D position, she accidentally vaporizes her younger self, causing a paradox in every possible worldline within countless generations of dimensional bubbles. Other time travelers are forced to enter the same time line to stop massive time quakes from leveling the future. Multiple aberrant variations include Jesus having returned in 144,000 worldlines, but no more. Hell on Earth is about 30 million times more frequent. With thousands of micro-singularity powered devices arriving in the same coordinates of spacetime, the Earth frequently drops into an amalgamated macro-singularity at least 500,000 times across the multi-verse - causing an offshoot problem of corrective missions skipping much further into the past and inducing cataclysmic changes to every former historical event. It is eventually realized by a large team in the distant past that the entire universe at the center of all paradox must be "rebooted" to have any hope of returning to the original time lines for billions of other universes. The team travels to one picosecond after the big bang and capture the entire mass of the paradox universe in the accretion disk of their now transformed super energized microsingularity, thus preventing the "paradox from hell" universe from being born. Best laid plans and all, the universe "big banged" all the same - right on the accretion disk of the now limitlessly energized black hole. 15 billion years hence, here I sit recounting it all for you.

As far as I know, this story is completely fictional - an invention of my world weary mind. However, if it was all true and I got to witness every single moment of it with my own two eyes, I don't think I'd ever be as surprised as I was when - after asking a guy from 2036 to forward an email to my past self - eleven year old buildings popped into existence on what were empty lots just a few hours before. Truth really is stranger than fiction.

(Ok, maybe that whole Second Coming thing would frak with me a bit, but still...)
 
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I always found it a bit amusing that Titor claimed that the time machine car took a sizeable chunk of the ground under it along for the ride....and that 'this was unavoidable'.

I mean.....they go to all the bother of getting microsingularities, timeline detecting computers, etc etc......yet nobody on the research team thinks of simply placing the car on some simple raised device ??
 
Re: WHERE IS JOHN TITOR EPISODE 6: The Habers

One should not wear a dress with t-shirt and shorts.
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Not if one is the attorney for a business client and general manager of the client's business and is being interviewed on film by the media.

Now if the client was present and didn't object to the informal dress or if the client has otherwise told his/her attorney that representing the company in front of the mdia dressed in t-shirt and shorts is appropriate representation of the company, no problem.

But I've seen Larry representing the JTF and other clients like VISI Corp, Disney and Universal Studios. Very attorney-like business attire.

Remember, Larry Haber isn't some second rate barely-got-through-law-school hack. Hofstra University Law graduate, Vice President and Entertainment Law Specialist for the Florida Motion Picture & Television Association, previously Director of Legal Admisistration for Universal Studios followed by a similar position for Disney managing the legal affairs for TV programmig for Walt Disney Attractions. If he has a real client that client isn't paying minimum wage for his services.
 
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I always found it a bit amusing that Titor claimed that the time machine car took a sizeable chunk of the ground under it along for the ride....and that 'this was unavoidable'

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You know how astronauts scoop up part of foreign soil when they visit a new planet and bring it back so they can study it?.....same thing. Kind of a "combo" thing.



****************ATTENTION TIME TRAVEL CLAIMANTS:*****************
If you interest me I may ask you questions.
This does not mean I necessarily believe what you are saying but only
that I am interested and curious about what you have to say.
I like to gather all the information first and save judgement till the end.
I am here to have fun, interesting and thought provoking conversation.
If you have a sense of humor, are highly intelligent and creative I may end up liking you!
However, This does not mean I will have interdimensional babies with you. LOL /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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