Experiment with Time, your assistance is requested

Sol Invictus: the Roman Empire’s Sun God, the object of worship during the Roman Empire’s Sun Worship phase. Sol Invictus was the state-supported Sun God. His cult festival day was on December 25th.

Sol Invictus was originally Syrian Sun God, and when Syrian Elagabalus became Roman Emperor in 222, he brought his Sol Invictus with him to Rome. Upon Elagabalus’ death, Sol Invictus reverted to being just a Syrian god again, until 270, when Emperor Aurelian reintroduced Sol Invictus to Rome, making the sun-god the premier divinity of the empire and wearing his rayed crown himself. The worship of Sol Invictus was continued by Constantine.

In 273 AD Aurelian brought the worship of Baal, from Syria, back to Rome, and combined the worship of all the pagan sun gods into one "Sol Invictus." The popular cults of Apollo and Mithras started to merge into the syncretic cult of Sol Invictus, and in 274 CE the emperor Aurelian made worship of Sol Invictus official.

The cult of Sol Invictus grew stronger and stronger, overshadowing and absorbing other gods. Constantine even seemed to attempt to blend and merge Sol Invictus with Christ. Constantine was not, contrary to popular belief and tradition, converted to Christianity prior to the Battle of Milvian Bridge in AD 312. Historical evidence indicates, instead, that Constantin was initiated into the cult of Sol Invictus just prior to this battle. His vision was not of a Christian cross, but of the sun god Sol Invictus, according to a witness accompanying his army at the time. This vision occurred in the area of a pagan temple to Apollo. About the time of the issuing of the first Sunday law, AD 321, Constantine had some coins made; and according to Stanley's " History of the Eastern Church," " his coins bore on the one side the letters of the name of Christ, on the other the figure of the sun- god and the inscription, 'Sol invictus' [the unconquerable sun], as if he could not bear to relinquish the patronage of the bright luminary.


Sol Invictus / Sun God / Ada Sunstorm

http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=18898&pid=110773&st=36&#entry110773
 
Yeah, but we're not talking about "taking out" one or more American cities. We are talking about a massive invasion and occupation of American cities. I can't think of any foreign power that has the strength to accomplish that. I mean, we may be in a new Great Depression, but we still possess the same military strength. No group or nation can go head-to-head against America, and I can't see that any Depression is going to change that fact much.
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Well here is a likely way an invasion could happen in America. If the climate changes and crops fail that would lead to starvation. Transporation would fail. Then the economy would fail. The the goverment of the USA that relys on taxes would fail. Then a stronger country who still had food and resources could invade.

If Energy stocks failed then that would lead to a failer in transporation. Then mass starvation. Then the economy would fail. Then the goverment that relies on that economy for revenue would fail Then a stronger country that still had energy and food could invade. This is extremely likely if America ever faces this situation though the goverment would lie about it.

Another thing. People think technology is going to save us. Not true. Technology may save a few people or groups of people here and there but most everyone else would be sol.
 
Well here is a likely way an invasion could happen in America. If the climate changes and crops fail that would lead to starvation. Transporation would fail. Then the economy would fail. The the goverment of the USA that relys on taxes would fail. Then a stronger country who still had food and resources could invade.
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Can you name a country that has the resorces to not only invade a continent the size of North America but also has the resources to feed an army via a multi-thousand mile supply chain in a country that no longer has any indigineous food supply?

What is the daily food, water, fuel and other consumable supply needs for a single brigade of mechanized infantry? What are the same requirements for an armored brigade? What are the same requirements for an aviation brigade? How many transport ships are required to transport and support such an invasion? What are the supply requirements for the naval elements per day? To successfully invade, occupy and pacify a country the size of the USA how many combat and civil affairs brigades are required?

Just some questions based on your scenario.
 
Just some questions based on your scenario.
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I have just read a good example that shows one reason why Darby is here. Bringing real-world facts to bear on an issue or idea stated by others is valuable. For we can often convince ourselves of something within our own little world, based on our own idealistic views. But when one begins to consider the facts of reality, suddenly things change (or they should).

RMT
 
Can you name a country that has the resorces to not only invade a continent the size of North America but also has the resources to feed an army via a multi-thousand mile supply chain in a country that no longer has any indigineous food supply?

What is the daily food, water, fuel and other consumable supply needs for a single brigade of mechanized infantry? What are the same requirements for an armored brigade? What are the same requirements for an aviation brigade? How many transport ships are required to transport and support such an invasion? What are the supply requirements for the naval elements per day? To successfully invade, occupy and pacify a country the size of the USA how many combat and civil affairs brigades are required?
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Please keep in mind Darby that countries can combine there resources to invade another country. If we go to military troops only and lets say because of Global warming Russia and America can get to each other by way of land then that opens up a lot of possibilities. China, Japan, Russia and other countries could send troops by way of Alaska to not only America but to Canada as well. Canada or Mexico may have to take out a loan or request assistance from another country but they could invade as well. If South America and Canada along with Russia or China got together and our goverment was weak it would be all but over for us. To answer your question that would most probably be China or Russia. China would be the most likely country to invade by way of Alaska. Anyone who knows how China thinks knows all to well they keep a battle plan ready for attacking and invading America. Russia also keeps battle plans ready for attacking and invading America. Mexico and Canada would have to have help maybe each other but Mexico is still too poor at this time to do anything and Canada is still a close friend of America. But in the future who knows. It is my belief that America will be invaded some day. It is just a matter of time. If America ever goes to nuclear war with another country when the dust and radiation have settled there also may well be another countries troops on our soil and they won,t be here to help us rebuild as America has done in the past for other countries. History will repeat itself.
 
Ada Sunstorm Prophecy Comes True!

see http://www.prophecies.us/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=571:ii&catid=1:predictions&Itemid=9#yvComment

On July 16th, 2008, Ada Sunstorm posted:

"that on the first of August's craft,
in Luna's shadow will come to pass,
they'll find his lies in photograph,
and scandalize his righteous path."

Three short weeks later, the US politician John Edwards was forced by published photographs into admitting his affair with Rielle Hunter, which he had previously lied about. His admission occurred on August 8, 2008, during the first quarter of the Moon (the Moon's shadow), and this date was the first day of the Summer Olympics (the first of August's craft).
 
"on the first of August's craft..."
on the first day of the August 2008 Olympic Games...

"in Luna's shadow will come to pass..."
in the darkness of the New Moon will come to pass...

"they'll find his lies in photograph..."
the media publishes photographs proving that John Edwards had been lying about not having an affair with Rielle Hunter...

"and scandalize his righteous path."
and then accuses him of also being the negligent father of the woman's baby, ruining his political career.

This prophecy was posted online just weeks before the Edwards photos appeared in the news.

The thing about this throwaway prediction coming true is that it gives credence to the other predictions Ada Sunstorm made.
 
You should care because this correct prediction gives credence to all the other predictions this Ada Sunstorm posted at prophecies.us

This is the second prediction she got right so far. She also correctly predicted in advance that 800 people would die in hurricanes last summer, which did occur in Haiti and was published as exactly that number : 800 people dead.

Song of the Lady
Written by Ada Sunstorm
Sunday, 22 June 2008 07:38

To you I write with dire haste,
To reveal to you what I foretaste,
The lady she did point to Three,
Whose meanings she evinced in me.

The circle storm is the first piece,
And Fourty score in it deceased,
For then the cycle shall begin,
And with it comes our great Chagrin.

And this is what she showed to me,
And this is how it will surely be,
The Lady’s dreadful prophecy,
She promises we'll certainly see.

And of the West there is a man, of wondrous faith and healing hand,
And when he saw his Eightieth year, the masses trumpeted wondrous cheers.
But on the day the Moon is new, I tell you the number shall be Two,
The faithful will begin to fray, and usher in the end of Days.

The song I sing will louder grow, when winds born of the South shall blow,
And bring with them a tide of death, for most there will be nothing left.
And in the wake He shall proclaim, to drink His words and ease the pain,
And all the while He hides his face; to show it once he wins His race.

And on this day was divided before, a city shall divide once more,
The star of the East will burn in spite, and fires will glow throughout the night.
And from this He will make his way, with words he spoke that dreaded day,
For three days from the people’s cry, the moon will eclipse in the sky.

After the change from Eight to Nine, I promise that there will be Three signs.
The first will appear from the heart of the West, in a time of great social unrest,
Where a man to be known as Americas Son, will rest on his faith and take up the Gun,
And one by one the children shall fall, all in the name of his false battle call.

The second shall rise from the East with wrath, moving in secret and growing so fast,
Then blood shall be spilled in holiest site, and the armies of Juda shall combat the fright,
And Americas Son will take up the torch, and the victory shall be swift and short,
But in the wake the houses shall shift, and in the Great West there shall be a rift.

The third sign shall be the most terrible of all, and it will appear late in the fall,
The sky will burn for Thirty plus Eight, and the though the damage will not be great,
With this the prophecy shall be fulfilled, for He stood unhindered and forcefully willed,
You will not count but several years, to watch play out the world’s greatest fears.
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I promise from this day on, Four years of sorrow,
Of storms and of fires, and of dreadful desires.
And then on the last night, it shall be extinguished,
Out of the heavens shall come a new day.


II.
Written by Ada Sunstorm
Friday, 04 July 2008 17:30

Of the Great One mourn,
A nation's heart torn.


II ii
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:24
Ada Sunstorm

three headed bleuler serpent toils,
from fear, the blood within shall boil,
and thrown away from reach of hand,
the devils tongue will make demands,

and that of yours is not of ours,
the lady and the seer's powers,
but on to you she shall concede,
the prospect of one heinous deed,

that on the first of August's craft,
in Luna's shadow will come to pass,
they'll find his lies in photograph,
and scandalize his righteous path.


III: Of the Lady
Written by Ada Sunstorm
Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:51

They will discuss Her greatly and ridicule Her rhyme,
rename her false prophet, impostor and mime.
But the eyes of falsehood are blind to their plight,
For the Lady, you see, has already been right


III
Written by Ada Sunstorm
Wednesday, 11 February 2009 16:23

The East King holds strong,
While the mouth of the Beast is wanting.
Turmoil on their father's land,
As heaven's tears deluge the awning.
A shake and cloud emerge,
Downing even those who dug in low.
She holds to me the number Four,
And says it's time to go.



IV
Written by Ada Sunstorm
Sunday, 12 April 2009 22:36

To you at last the number four,
The mother's house alight.
The Seraphim will bring it forth,
The darkness to ignite.

This shall be the beaconing,
The lodestars born anew,
The reverent one will fade away,
Affliction shall pull through.

He will quench the thirst of man,
The shepherd at the altar,
Shall bear the name the Stone of Rome,
But lead you all to slaughter.

And in this time a great crusade,
Will march across all lands,
And acting in His holy name,
Shall burn you where you stand.

For his is not a lightened path,
Nor will his ways be clear,
As when the Stone shall lift his veil,
The end will be too near.

His legions are both East and West,
His reach both far and wide,
He shall not lift the sword himself,
For he is but the guide.

There will be four who pledge to him,
To each he feeds dark lies,
Till one by one they raise the call,
Of a hellish surmise.

Much suffering will come before,
The Sky and Earth is lorn,
Heed the signs, be wary,
The Lady does forewarn.

Why is all this important to this forum? Because the last line of "III: Of the Lady" implies that this is not prophecy at all, but some sort of time manipulation.
 
Peter,

#1 - You are engaging in thread hijacking. Please stop it.
#2 - So are you now about to claim that "Ada Sunstorm = Zeshua"? Or is Ada just your new sycophantic fetish?

RMT
 
Not at all. My comments here are relevant to the original post of Sol (as an aside, I would point out that a great many posts in this forum do not conform to that rule and yet are left unchallenged. To arbitrarily enforce rules is hardly just).

Do I claim that Ada Sunstorm is Zeshua? Hardly. I have no such knowledge. But do I hypothesize about it? Yes. I now suspect that both Ada and Sol are Zeshua. If they are not, the similarities between them must have been intentionally designed to raise that suspicion.
 
(as an aside, I would point out that a great many posts in this forum do not conform to that rule and yet are left unchallenged. To arbitrarily enforce rules is hardly just).
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It is not arbitrary where you are concerned. You are a broken record, Peter. All you EVER post about is gloom and doom for our future. That is just plain sick. You should really go out and find a girlfriend and learn to enjoy life...TODAY. Many here know that I am a dabbler and investigator of the esoteric arts. If there is one thing that I have absolutely verified is that you DRAW energy towards you that MATCHES the energy you have running around in your mind. And as such, YOU may not be having a very rosy future at all. Mine? I am ecstatic with where my future is going.

RMT
 
Come on Ray, focus. I know you’d like to make this about me, because I’m an easy target, but this isn’t about me. It isn’t the Peter Novak forum, it’s a Time Travel forum.

I’ve very happy for you, Ray. I’m glad everything is looking so positive for you right now. I presume you don’t live in Pakistan, then, right? Or give a damn about anyone else who does?

You do realize, don’t you, that today’s news of Pakistan’s civil war, and the advance of the Taliban to within just a few dozen miles of Islamibad, and all the news stories flooding the media about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons now being in imminent danger of coming under Taliban control – that all of that has pushed us one step closer to fulfilling Zeshua’s two predictions – of a new Middle East war, and a nuclear attack by an Islamic nation,. both by the end of this year – you do realize that today’s news has pushed us one step closer to that outcome than we were yesterday, don’t you?

But instead of dealing with any of that, Ray, you’d rather whine about your assessment of my character?

Let’s talk about character for a moment, then, shall we, Ray? You harassed me today by inaccurately accusing me of breaking the rules by trying to derail a thread, and when I pointed out that posters here often wander way off topic without being harassed about it, you then said that it was personal, that you did it because you don’t like me. So you didn’t harass me because of any rules as you claimed at all, but instead because of your personal feelings about me. That says something about a person’s character.

Can we leave your personal feelings out of this discussion, Ray? I know that you are feeling all warm and cozy while the world is disintegrating all around you and would rather not be reminded about the worldwide economic collapse, or the civil war in Pakistan, or any of the other stuff that has come true as predicted, but frankly, Ray, I don’t care about your feelings. So try to stay on topic and not get so emotional all the time, can you please?
 
Please keep in mind Darby that countries can combine there resources to invade another country.
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OK. Same questions relative to an alliance. What are the resource requirements for a brigade (mech, armor and aviation) plus the resource requirements for the naval forces to transport and support such an invasion regardless of whether it is a single country or an alliance?
 
OK. Same questions relative to an alliance. What are the resource requirements for a brigade (mech, armor and aviation) plus the resource requirements for the naval forces to transport and support such an invasion regardless of whether it is a single country or an alliance?
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Well first of all that would depend on what country is invading because the resource requirements would be different for each country and the requirements would be different per their invasion plan. For every mile away from home the cost of maintaining troops go up. Now, I focused on Alaska. It is a long way from Moscow to Alaska if my memory serves me correctly around 6000 miles and a long way from Alaska lets say to Florida. Now, coming from China up thru Russia into Alaska would be different and the resource requirements would be different. The resources requirements would depend on what country is invading and what their invasion plan is. Without that first hand knowledge getting into specifics would be difficult at best. Now, as I said Russia and China do keep plans on hand for attacking and invading America. In those plans are the specific information you are looking for. That would mean a phone call to their embassy and most likely a rejection or no response at all to getting that specific information from them. In world war II japan did send troops to Alaska and in any future war with Russia, China, or other nations depending on the location of that country troops will be landed in either Alaska, California, Texas, Lousina, Florida, and on up the east cost. They can also be flown in. If coming from Russia or Asia then that would come over canada or the west coast. If coming from Europe or South America then that would come over the east coast. I-40, I-80, I-10 and a host of other highways would be shutdown by the enemy. Major international airports would be disabled as well as major air bases. Trucking companies like JB hunt could expect to be bombed as well along with a lot of industry and power companies, phone companies, and the internet backbone. You don,t think Russia and China have any of this stuff in their plans. They do. Where I live is a major target in a nuclear war. We are expected to get at least 4 or 5 nuclear bombs here because of Pine Bluff, Jacksonville air force base, Camp Robinson, and the list goes on. Anyway I have said enough. What the public does not know or care about I guess does not hurt them.
 
Let's see if I got this right... First, you launch off with this soliloquy:

I’ve very happy for you, Ray. I’m glad everything is looking so positive for you right now. I presume you don’t live in Pakistan, then, right? Or give a damn about anyone else who does?

You do realize, don’t you, that today’s news of Pakistan’s civil war, and the advance of the Taliban to within just a few dozen miles of Islamibad, and all the news stories flooding the media about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons now being in imminent danger of coming under Taliban control – that all of that has pushed us one step closer to fulfilling Zeshua’s two predictions – of a new Middle East war, and a nuclear attack by an Islamic nation,. both by the end of this year – you do realize that today’s news has pushed us one step closer to that outcome than we were yesterday, don’t you?
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And then you turn around and accuse me of being emotional? Really? I can only assume you are using irony to try and be funny. Now, let's deal with a few more things:

You harassed me today by inaccurately accusing me of breaking the rules by trying to derail a thread
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Let's look at some facts about this accusation:

1) The OP started this post on Feb 23rd, and told us his "experiment" will be completed before March. It is now April. That means the original pretext of this thread is kaput.
2) The OP has not returned to answer your various questions, nor even explain him/herself further. In fact, the OP only made 3 posts, and this person's last post was on the same day as his/her first. IOW, it was another one of our famous "driveby" posts. (Unless you are connected with it and it is part of your game!)
3) As to your posts? You posted a crapload of questions. None that the OP answered. Those were on-topic. Then you did your usual act of wild conjecture about some of the things the OP said. You even had to remind us all that "March arrives in 36 hours." And then, finally, when March hits you remind Sol "Sol, it's March. Looks like your experiment failed." But was that the end?
4) Then you did one of your dramatic (and emotional) "farewells" with this:

I am holding out a smidgen of hope that we will still see some more responses from Sol, but that hope is fading. And with Zeshua scheduled to begone no later than next week as well, I doubt I will be bothering you folks here much anymore after that, as these were the only subjects of lasting interest to me at this site.
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Were you done after that? Sol sure was. But wait...

5) Nope. Peter keeps going. Nowhere do we see anything about time travel, or claims thereof. Just speculations and speculations on top of speculations about what Sol meant. By March 5th it is hard to argue that you had taken this thread way off topic...with your typical speculative analysis of things of doom (war/invasion of America).
6) Then you argued with me about Martial Law and Posse Comitatus.
7) And then you bring in the whole Ada Sunstorm "prophecies"...to make sure the Zeshua connection was firmly made. And that brings us up to the present time.

But how about this one?

I know you’d like to make this about me, because I’m an easy target, but this isn’t about me. It isn’t the Peter Novak forum, it’s a Time Travel forum.
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Well, how about I use some of your own words to discredit this false attempt at projection?

<font color="blue"> Peter Novak @2/25/09 [/COLOR] I am very interested in the answer to that, because I've been studying a pet project of mine that involves a new hypothetical astrological birthchart for the USA, and that chart also seems to describe something big and bad happening in September. And I posted comments about those suspicions at GLP, but those comments were not posted there until this January.

And now we have this possible tter calling himself Sol Invictus that does things in such a way as to be certain to attract my attention, and now I learn that another Sol Invictus made identical predictions to my September 2009 predictions, but made them three months before I posted my own.

So now what I am to think? Are these two both the same "Sol Invictus"? Or did this new one intentionally pick that name to draw my attention to those predictions by the earlier Sol Invictus?
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There is an awful lot of "I, I, I" and how someone is trying to attract your attention there. And imagine that... now you are claiming this thread is not all about you! Amazing. Or how about the simple fact that 33 of the posts in this thread are by you?

The branding of you as a gloom and doomer is something that cannot help but stick, Peter. My friend KerrTexas made a good post about all of this nonsense around here, and how it has little if nothing to do with time travel. And as we see from above, you are not very good at reviewing facts before you launch into an emotional tirade against me.

But I suppose all of this is part of working up to your next book, which I am sure you hope does better than your last. As always I point out: You have not been banned, and no one has tried to restrict your freedom of speech. You are free to use this forum for all your little PR ideas. But the one thing you will NOT get is sympathy from me, and you will also not get a "free ride", and I will not let up on pointing out your game. It is what I do. It is part of my reason for being... making people aware of the games that others play.

So, Peter, let me close with: "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law. Love is the Law. Love under Will."

RMT
 
so lemme get this straight. you are using a time travel website to promote the awareness of, lemme quote...

You do realize, don’t you, that today’s news of Pakistan’s civil war, and the advance of the Taliban to within just a few dozen miles of Islamibad, and all the news stories flooding the media about Pakistan’s nuclear weapons now being in imminent danger of coming under Taliban control – that all of that has pushed us one step closer to fulfilling Zeshua’s two predictions – of a new Middle East war, and a nuclear attack by an Islamic nation,. both by the end of this year – you do realize that today’s news has pushed us one step closer to that outcome than we were yesterday, don’t you?

But instead of dealing with any of that, Ray, you’d rather whine about your assessment of my character?
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so instead of doing anything about it, you prefer to cry about it on a message board? fuuuuuck me...
 
There was mention of a time travel experiment, however I gather this thread has gone a bit off topic. When it gets back on course please notify me.
 
Well first of all that would depend on what country is invading because the resource requirements would be different for each country and the requirements would be different per their invasion plan. For every mile away from home the cost of maintaining troops go up...
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Yada, yada, yada.

You posed a scenario where some foreign country invades the USA - a USA that is out of food and people are starving. Irrespective of where they come from, assnming they are human and not Martian, what is the daily resource cost for a mech, armor and aviation brigade assuming that there ain't no local food available. How many brigades are required to successfully invade, control and pacify the USA?

Come on - this is your scenario, not mine. Certainly you thought this through before making the statements, yes?
 
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