Re: Yet another time traveling claim
Risata- There are millions of people living in the USA illegally: people with no real ID or copies of other people's. Most of them are Mexican immigrants but there are over a million others.
America is ultimately a country of 50 states governed by the federal government- any American is free to pick up and move to any other state and establish an identity. I can do all of that except for photo ID- I can't pass for a 24 year old!
I obtained copies of my birth certificate and Social Security cards to open accounts which in turn got me debit cards which in turn got me credit cards which in turn gets me club memberships and assigned parking spaces. As long as the bills are paid, they really don't care who is charging.
I only run into problems on the Federal level- like if I wanted to buy a house: the bank gets involved, they run a credit check on me and I'm busted. Even if I paid cash, that amount of money would set off alarms. $10,000 is the transaction limit before the feds get involved so I make a lot of little purchases which is why stocks are the perfect thing to invest in.
Now if I got run over by a bus tomorrow, they'd look in my wallet and see my ID, my SS#, by club memberships, credit cards, debit cards, cash and my emergency contact info for my private doctor- at no point would I be a John Doe; in no case is it neccesary to take my DNA.
And even if they did, there is no "federal DNA database"... they don't put your DNA in and a name pops out- even in 2044 that technology does not exist... if for no other reason than it's Big Brother you're talking about... in 2044 there are many more Federal Privacy Laws than there are now.
Regardless, even if they still took my DNA (and somehow had my younger self's DNA "on file" somewhere and made the link somehow)- there's no way to get a 100% match from a DNA test from an identical 24 and 62 year old- my DNA is much more mutated than my younger self's- at best they'd conclude we were some sorta "distant relative" or something. DNA tests look at less than 1% of a person's actual DNA strands, you know...
The only DNA that is identical regardless of age is spinal and cerebral DNA, and to a lesser degree fingernails and hair, and even mitrochondrial DNA ages with time.
>>Furthermore, if they did happen to call your younger self, and he became aware of you period, wouldn't that cause a "butterfly effect?"<<
This is a good question- it also answers many of Pamela's and Darby's. I cannot directly affect my other, younger self. If I do, I will instantly pop out of existence. If I sent my other self an email (which I am currently able to do), the moment he opened it, I would pop out of existence. Why? Because I cannot directly affect myself. This is why the older soccer ball never reached the younger soccer ball- because B cannot come before A. This opens the door to wackyness, but this is what C=ME2 is all about... it's first person physics.
Ignore the universe around you. It exists; it's a given... it unquantifiable and only concentrate on one object. The goal is to control this one object above a Heisenberg threshold, not the universe at large. This means two things: control everything OUTSIDE this space and everything INSIDE this space. In other words, build a wall.
What's this wall made of? Acceleration. What is acceleration? It's everything around you. Everything that exists complies with the Cosmic Background Radiation caused by the Big Bang. In other words, the Big Bang happened and everything in the universe is a result of the Big Bang.
"Everything" is little packets of acceleration. They break down into two general classes: "mass" and "energy".
Within mass are different states- (solid, liquid, gas), different densities and different atomic weights. Within energy is the Electromagnetic Spectrum, from radio to gamma. All told, the universe is E=MC2: it's matter and energy interacting to give us the tangable universe we exist in. The only thing classical physics cannot do is unify the four fundamental forces (and you've had 102 years to do it) and that is due to "the wrong perspective" (which is why math never proves anything- it only makes more math). But underlying this is the fact that everything, everywhere is made of acceleration (which is why there is no "absolute state" in the universe).
Now the universe is E=MC2 but everything within the universe is C=ME2... everything in the universe is "a universe onto itself". Everything in the universe is a THING, which means it's possible to quantify any one THING in the universe- provided you use "the rest of the universe" as a resource to quantify "that THING"... beyond a Hensenberg threshold for a Planck Unit... this is why A bombs go off.
This is where the mechanics of C=ME2 come into play- if you can quantify (or control) one field (meaning, put up a wall between this field and the rest of the universe), you can manipulate acceleration and in the process travel time and that is how the Branson time machine works: it's a ratio of electromagnetism (energy) and centrifigul forces (mass).
When the correct ratio is reached (the "Coca-Cola recipe"), it's possible to send THINGS (like me) through time, provided the time you're sent to must be "more logical" than the place you're sent from- this is where the "landing base" come in... you "land in a place you're expected to land in".
And also provided you have enough energy to actually send this information (The Branson Foundation is the largest energy conglomerate in the USA). This is why Branson won the "contest"- because they had the money and they had the energy.
I exist in a time I shouldn't now simply because there is no logical explanation for my being here now. If you wrote out my lifetime on a timetable, it would have to "loop back" at some point for it to make sense. This is because of E=MC2- because since I exist WITHIN the universe interacting as a part of the universe that "my life's story" has to make sequential sense.
But it does not because of C=ME2: because it's possible to create shells that can exist seperate from acceleration and move within them... that can travel through time with enough energy. I hope this makes sense to you all because that's how it works- you can't control the universe but you can control a part of it to the point of where it seperates from the universe only to rejoin the universe at an earlier point in time.
The only drawback to this is causality. My body is made of atoms and all of those atoms currently exist somewhere else on the planet right now... my being here adds extra atoms to this planet. In the largest sense, this throws equilibrium off. So whenever one of my atoms meets its other younger, idential atom, my atom cancels itself out. Why? Because I don't belong here now.
As such, to continue existing within this E=MC2 universe, none of my atoms can interact with any of their identical counterparts.
Now most of the atoms in my body are renewable- as Pamela pointed out, "you're a new you" every few years apart from the spinal column and nervous system. This is why I cannot touch my other, younger self: because if I tried to do that, my atoms would cancel themselves out, I'd decorporealize like a ghost.
As such, "my atoms are along for the ride" in a time they shouldn't exist in. My atoms don't mind being here- they're millions of years old- this 38 year leap is a hiccup in their life as an atom. They only run into a problem if they encounter their duplicate- in that case, that atom cancels itself out... it simply "stops existing" because in the larger sense the universe is a living thing and we're all parts of it (E=MC2), and the other atom simply goes on existing, unaltered. Sure this is entropic, but this is a very big universe we're in.
I am made of seven trillion trillion trillion atoms. So everytime one of them meets its counterpart, it pops out of existence... I am made of swiss cheese. This is why I am in Disney and not anywhere near where my other self is- because America is 50 states and each state has its own city and each city has its own logistics... because it's possible to exist in the past as I am provided I am sufficiently distanced from my other self.
Sure I am in some grandiose way interacting with my other self... sure the o2 in the co2 I exhale will eventually be inhaled by my other self but in actuality, this would take thousands of years which makes it impossible... provided I stay far enough away from "me". This is how I still exist regardless of the fact I don't belong here.
My coming here is my retirement. I don't have many years left and I decided to spend those last days and years preventing it from ever getting to this point... I'd rather life comfortably in the past with the possibility of altering my own life than in my present where I simply wither and die- I'd like a chance to remake myself and that's why I am here.
You guys are the gravy. You guys are the back story for when my other self logs on to TTF and follows this thead here- then it'll all make sense to him/me... then I'll be complete.
I did memorize the Powerball numbers for Florida on a specific date in 2010- that will be my gift to you all for your participation in the end. That was an historic drawing- the first drawing for one billion dollars. There was one winning ticket holder and no winner ever claimed the prize- a crop of conspiracy circles popped up over this event- "the time it made more sense to kill a man than hand over a billion dollars". I will happily post these numbers before the drawing to see whether it's a conspiracy or not.
I originally wrote:
>when you seperate a pair of atoms then reverse the charge of one of them and the other changes regardless of distance... that's that called?<
To which Pamela asked:
>>I was hoping you knew being from 2044. I don't believe the answer is known yet in our time.<<
This is a well known concept today, I just don't remember what it's called. A physicist would definetly know which is why I asked Darby for the name of it.
>>Isn't there anything you can give us about it that is not currently known?
I have given well over 50 predictions, some of which already passed- what else can I do? Start rambling off Super Bowls as proof? Real time travelers don't come back with dire, urgent information- they come back to relive the past and not alter it to the point of where they don't exist in it anymore.
I wrote:
>Considering there's only one tangable universe, where else could it go but nowhere? Another random part of the universe? Perhaps, but regardless that's somewhere I don't want to be.<
And Pamela replied:
>>What if your wrong?<<
How can I be- there is only one reality: this one. Sure infinite, alternate universe may/do exist but the energy required to "go from one universe to another" is as big as the universe itself... it's like trying to quantify pi.
Let's say for every action, a host of new universes pop up where it potentially does. Then the universe is full of an ininite number of alternate universe every second forever... at that point the question becomes "does reality really exist?" If this is the case, then all kinds of stuff would pop into our universe- aliens, time travelers, Jesus and whatever else you can imagine. At that point, if you looked out through a telescope the universe would not make sense. But the universe DOES make sense- all the way back to the Big Bang. E=MC2 removed the mystery from our universe... the whole universe makes sense. Why? Because this is tangable reality.
>>If you would disappear what would happen to all of us that knew you and talked to you here?<<
I don't belong here so whatever causality happens will affect me, not the universe around me.
>I assumed the name "Jon Titor" to be clever, but everyone here seems to call me Titorian which suits me fine. Thanks for asking.<
>>typical "Titor" smartassness<<
Sure thing, Ms. Moore.
anonymous_person- Cryogenics in 2044 is the same as cryogenics in 2007. What makes cryogenics sustainable is the simplicity in making liquid gasses through pressure. Once you're a popsicle, you're essentially inert. No major research was done on these poor souls- there's no money in it. Maybe in 2200 we'll figure out how to thaw someone out without turning them to mush in the process.
>>Does CERN discover micro-blackholes with their new accelerator in 2007/2008?<<
I gotta be honest- this is all old news to me. This is like me asking you the exact date the Vietnam War ended. Eyebrows are raised when they turn on the machine and extra energy appears and when they turn it off and it goes away- this is time travel. A few years after this happens, Kaku outlines his theory, then everyone starts building "magic machines" which are a direct application of his untested theory. Branson wins.
NKS_Man writes:
>>Titorian- Came across this today: Sheer Thickening Fluid<<
The capsule I was in was metallic, double walled and had a liquid in the middle. It may or may not have been this stuff, I just called it "super mercury". It absorbed energy and converted it to energy, it was a closed loop; an uber-lubricant.
jmpet writes:
>>Hey Titorian- how's your health?<<
The same it was when I left. Immunosuppression therapy rendered the cancer inert at the expense of my susceptibility to illness... a cold can kill me. I eat a healthy diet and exercise and continue living. I won't live past 2010- I am genetically predisposed to die at 65. But we'll see about that.
NKS_Man writes:
>>Oh boy, I get all analytical and *poof* causality.<<
Causality is not as causal as you'd think- the world is a big place. Considering I shed over a billion atoms a second, we're all somewhat causal-proof. We are nothing but atoms put together to form "us", after all. What does me in is information, which is what this here now is.
>>A full explanation isn't necessary. You posed the equation thus its yours to defend. Why don't you just give it your best shot?<<
>>Titorian, could you please state in as much detail as possible the mechanics of/and way your time machine works to the best of your knowledge?<<
I have carefully explained the principle above to the best of my ability- the "layman's version"; the high school version. This is as close as I want to get to actually explaining it- to the point of where an average person can see I'm not making this stuff up. Any more (which ,Darby, I am am unable to do) would create causality which would rewrite history even more.
And even though I am here to rewite history (my own), the more I detail, the less I will be able to further detail.