Theory Possibility of Multiple Time Travelers

I recently heard a European refer to the Ukrainian military as the AFU (Armed Forces of Ukraine). Is a united European military known as the AFE?
There's the Armed Forces Entertainment (AFE) that is run by the Air Force. But other than that idk.

I am not sure if I am getting my point across.

In John's world-line, the U.S federal government called themselves the American Federal Empire.

Empire.

As in outwardly modern Imperialists. Like TrapperND
is saying above. He gets it.

The thing that I find interesting, even if you take out the time traveling aspect, it could still make for an awesome futuristic, realism style, dystopian book, or movie trilogy.

Hey, if the Hunger Games did it...
 
There's the Armed Forces Entertainment (AFE) that is run by the Air Force. But other than that idk.

I am not sure if I am getting my point across.

In John's world-line, the U.S federal government called themselves the American Federal Empire.

Empire.

As in outwardly modern Imperialists. Like TrapperND
is saying above. He gets it.

The thing that I find interesting, even if you take out the time traveling aspect, it could still make for an awesome futuristic, realism style, dystopian book, or movie trilogy.

Hey, if the Hunger Games did it...
I'm leaning towards a weekly podcast with guests, radio style. I feel like we have the customer base for it.
 
I'm leaning towards a weekly podcast with guests, radio style. I feel like we have the customer base for it.

I mean, I have shared proof on this sit that Disney producers were trying to claim the name.

Listen, this isn't legal advice, but if anyone should have the rights to the story and the name it should be this forum.

He gave his personal permission to post external dialogue, he shared seemingly everything on this site, knowing fully that would be for public consumption into perpetuity throughout the universe. That is pretty binding if you ask me. As far as I know, other than coast to coast, this site was pretty much his exclusive choice.

BTW , I have been going over some of the archives reading person after person claiming to be travelers, and I found them as boring as most of you did.

Still, who are we all still talking about? Not the guy who claimed to have spent a lifetime on a prison planet than escaped and became a frigate captain that fought in battles with alien vessels, of course narrowly escapes.

That is because TT_0 really was who he said he was.

My opinion.
 
I mean, I have shared proof on this sit that Disney producers were trying to claim the name.

Listen, this isn't legal advice, but if anyone should have the rights to the story and the name it should be this forum.

He gave his personal permission to post external dialogue, he shared seemingly everything on this site, knowing fully that would be for public consumption into perpetuity throughout the universe. That is pretty binding if you ask me. As far as I know, other than coast to coast, this site was pretty much his exclusive choice.

BTW , I have been going over some of the archives reading person after person claiming to be travelers, and I found them as boring as most of you did.

Still, who are we all still talking about? Not the guy who claimed to have spent a lifetime on a prison planet than escaped and became a frigate captain that fought in battles with alien vessels, of course narrowly escapes.

That is because TT_0 really was who he said he was.

My opinion.

Yeah, I mean this is a relatively obscure place to choose. Especially in 2000, when the internet was just starting. Why do you think he went with TTI instead of staying with coast to coast?
 
Yeah, I mean this is a relatively obscure place to choose. Especially in 2000, when the internet was just starting. Why do you think he went with TTI instead of staying with coast to coast?
On a forum, you can be the center of attention. There would be more control over the content you want out there. Time to think about his answers. You are your own show.

Be honest, if Jesus came back today, would you believe him, or would you put him in a {strait jacket?}

There probably isn't a lot of places that would give Jesus a chance to prove it. Especially in church. Even if he could prove it, the claim alone would have people speaking in tongues.

A time traveler would need a lot of time and a platform like this to try and convince people, and people still won't believe him.

Still, a hell of a story.
 
On a forum, you can be the center of attention. There would be more control over the content you want out there. Time to think about his answers. You are your own show.

Be honest, if Jesus came back today, would you believe him, or would you put him in a {strait jacket?}

There probably isn't a lot of places that would give Jesus a chance to prove it. Especially in church. Even if he could prove it, the claim alone would have people speaking in tongues.

A time traveler would need a lot of time and a platform like this to try and convince people, and people still won't believe him.

Still, a hell of a story.

well, Art Bell was a strong proponent of time travel and pushed it a lot when he was alive. the audience would have believed it too.

I don't know if titor was trying to be the center of attention. he certainly was trying to make himself accessible. he also was posting just enough information to identify himself, but not enough to reproduce the technology.

do you think he was waiting to meet a bunch of people? why here?

like, what are the odds they would come across TTI yet alone choose to participate in it. They may never have shown up at all. Then, there was the 24 year pause between when titor left and came back again. Almost like he knew the people he was waiting for wouldn't show up in all that time, until now.

I suppose from his point of view, it all would have been history and documented by 2037. but, who would document this place? the Wayback machine? even then, it doesn't archive databases.

About being honest, I gave him some technical questions to answer which he did. I went into more depth privately. If Jesus came, I would do the same, just like I did with johnechoflux to confirm "he" was an AI. If Jesus got them correct, it still wouldn't prove anything. but, it would open up that it could be a possibility, and warrent further investigation.

Its the same issue as how do you know the world you are seeing out there actually exists? For all you know, everything is just fields and gravity waves and nothing else. Our minds just make it look like something is out there.

Would I put Jesus in a straight jacket? I dunno, probably if he was trying to harm himself or others. Otherwise, I would interact with him in the context he was giving, in an effort to expand it and arrive at the "truth".

What would I ask as test questions?

1) explain the holy trilogy, where and how its components interact with each other.

Answer: the son is the physical projection, the father is the prime, the holy Spirit is the entire system (ethereal singularity)

2) does life exist elsewhere in the universe, and what is its density? Then, account how if he was made in God's image, he doesn't look like any of the other life forms

Answer: he was biologically engineered to interact with humans by another race who did gods work and created us

3) Why does God need to have a gender?

Answer: God is genderless and is a universe that had achieved sentience. It reproduces itself through fission/duplication.
 
Perché hai detto che eri bloccato negli anni '80?
I mean, I have shared proof on this sit that Disney producers were trying to claim the name.

Listen, this isn't legal advice, but if anyone should have the rights to the story and the name it should be this forum.

He gave his personal permission to post external dialogue, he shared seemingly everything on this site, knowing fully that would be for public consumption into perpetuity throughout the universe. That is pretty binding if you ask me. As far as I know, other than coast to coast, this site was pretty much his exclusive choice.

BTW , I have been going over some of the archives reading person after person claiming to be travelers, and I found them as boring as most of you did.

Still, who are we all still talking about? Not the guy who claimed to have spent a lifetime on a prison planet than escaped and became a frigate captain that fought in battles with alien vessels, of course narrowly escapes.

That is because TT_0 really was who he said he was.

My opinio
I mean, I have shared proof on this sit that Disney producers were trying to claim the name.

Listen, this isn't legal advice, but if anyone should have the rights to the story and the name it should be this forum.

He gave his personal permission to post external dialogue, he shared seemingly everything on this site, knowing fully that would be for public consumption into perpetuity throughout the universe. That is pretty binding if you ask me. As far as I know, other than coast to coast, this site was pretty much his exclusive choice.

BTW , I have been going over some of the archives reading person after person claiming to be travelers, and I found them as boring as most of you did.

Still, who are we all still talking about? Not the guy who claimed to have spent a lifetime on a prison planet than escaped and became a frigate captain that fought in battles with alien vessels, of course narrowly escapes.

That is because TT_0 really was who he said he was.

My opinion
I mean, I have shared proof on this sit that Disney producers were trying to claim the name.

Listen, this isn't legal advice, but if anyone should have the rights to the story and the name it should be this forum.

He gave his personal permission to post external dialogue, he shared seemingly everything on this site, knowing fully that would be for public consumption into perpetuity throughout the universe. That is pretty binding if you ask me. As far as I know, other than coast to coast, this site was pretty much his exclusive choice.

BTW , I have been going over some of the archives reading person after person claiming to be travelers, and I found them as boring as most of you did.

Still, who are we all still talking about? Not the guy who claimed to have spent a lifetime on a prison planet than escaped and became a frigate captain that fought in battles with alien vessels, of course narrowly escapes.

That is because TT_0 really was who he said he was.

My opinion.
Well Judas Titor have you found one person that claims to be a traveler on this site interesting and/or real?
 
Most Democrat votes occur in cities, where people have access to better education. But, the Titor posting in 2000 lived in Florida in 2037. In 2000, Florida was blue. Over the next 25 years it flipped red. Today, Republicans in Florida side with trump and actually do see blue cities as the enemy. It used to be not long ago, this kind of distinction was never made. New York was never seen as a threat to Tampa. Instead, it was seen as a source of revenue from tourists by people like Disney. And, the AFE? Why call it an EMPIRE? Like England used to call itself the British EMPIRE. But, it changed the name to the British Commonwealth in modern times, taking a less aggressive stance. So, I have to wonder what Trump will call the monstrocity he could create if he invades Canada, Greenland, and Mexico. The Trump EMPIRE? He already calls his chain of business disasters an empire.

Is there really any reason to make the Time Travel forum political? Come on, we're debating over a fictional character (Titor/TT0) who used a fictional gadget (a time machine based on really silly "physics") that involved a completely fictional "interpretation" of the Many Worlds Interpretation. Bringing politics into this particular forum has always devolved into an ad hominem attack shit show.

My friend, it may or may not be of any influence on the current discussion but if you want to drag politics into the discussion I'll take my leave of the discussion. This site is my recreational relief. I never want to see it go back to the "bad old days" of Javier Cortez, Creedo, etc. It took MOP and I (plus two or three additional regulars) to undo the damage they did to the forum. 🤠
 
well, Art Bell was a strong proponent of time travel and pushed it a lot when he was alive. the audience would have believed it too.

I don't know if titor was trying to be the center of attention. he certainly was trying to make himself accessible. he also was posting just enough information to identify himself, but not enough to reproduce the technology.

do you think he was waiting to meet a bunch of people? why here?

like, what are the odds they would come across TTI yet alone choose to participate in it. They may never have shown up at all. Then, there was the 24 year pause between when titor left and came back again. Almost like he knew the people he was waiting for wouldn't show up in all that time, until now.

I suppose from his point of view, it all would have been history and documented by 2037. but, who would document this place? the Wayback machine? even then, it doesn't archive databases.

About being honest, I gave him some technical questions to answer which he did. I went into more depth privately. If Jesus came, I would do the same, just like I did with johnechoflux to confirm "he" was an AI. If Jesus got them correct, it still wouldn't prove anything. but, it would open up that it could be a possibility, and warrent further investigation.

Its the same issue as how do you know the world you are seeing out there actually exists? For all you know, everything is just fields and gravity waves and nothing else. Our minds just make it look like something is out there.

Would I put Jesus in a straight jacket? I dunno, probably if he was trying to harm himself or others. Otherwise, I would interact with him in the context he was giving, in an effort to expand it and arrive at the "truth".

What would I ask as test questions?

1) explain the holy trilogy, where and how its components interact with each other.

Answer: the son is the physical projection, the father is the prime, the holy Spirit is the entire system (ethereal singularity)

2) does life exist elsewhere in the universe, and what is its density? Then, account how if he was made in God's image, he doesn't look like any of the other life forms

Answer: he was biologically engineered to interact with humans by another race who did gods work and created us

3) Why does God need to have a gender?

Answer: God is genderless and is a universe that had achieved sentience. It reproduces itself through fission/duplication.
I like the way you think.

Also, I am glad that you answered honestly.

But, if I were asking the world "would you believe him, or would you put him in a strait jacket?" 'You' being more of a Royal 'you'. I think you might agree that people would either dismiss him as crazy, feel insulted by his arrogance, or lock him up, because society wouldn't know what else to do with him.

I think the same can be said for time-travelers, because 69% of Americans believe in Angels, and Jesus's likeness in a slice of burnt toast. Yet, when a guy claims to be Jesus, people just shun him. I mean, that is what happened to John, he surrounded himself with believers, and then most people got angry. As if he was blaspheming pretending to be Jesus.

I can see why myself. Most people are full of crap.

However, in order to stay vigilant, your mind should always be in a superposition. Both Naive and Skeptical simultaneously.

Until someone opens the box of course.
 
a time machine based on really silly "physics"
I don't want to disparage your words by quoting this back. I am genuinely curious what you mean.

I have tried my best to understand this aspect of it. But, like they say, "The more you know, the more you realize how much you don't know."

I try to avoid being looked at through the eyes of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
To not know enough to know your wrong.
In my personal experience however through my thought process I have found that
I don't know enough about something, to know how correct I am.

I have a good working theory on the sociological and geopolitical aspect of this "future" John described. But the more I learn about quantum mechanics, the more I find that his explanations are only unfounded because there isn't any real need in this timeline for that technology to exist yet. Otherwise, it seems like in theory, his explanation could work.

If it isn't asking too much, could you explain why it wouldn't work?

I won't even question your conclusions. That way you don't have to worry about making this a long-drawn-out discussion with someone without credentials.
 
But the more I learn about quantum mechanics
If you've learned anything about quantum mechanics then you should have spotted the "silly" physics in his description of the gadget. Do you recall how he described the thing, word for word not a paraphrase, and what it meant? Post it and give it a try.

He actually did state the mass of his twin black holes to a very good approximation. Do you recall what that mass was? Based on your knowledge of quantum physics what does that black hole mass imply versus his silly physics assertions?

Do you recall his description of how he spun up his twin black holes using electrons? Based on your knowledge of quantum mechanics what does firing the second and subsequent electrons into the twin black holes imply?

Do you recall the silly physics in the Fat Finger Cigar Man photo of the bent laser inside the truck and what that implies?

Have fun answering these questions. Hopefully it will give you some direction about Titor's "physics". 🤠
 
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Listen, this isn't legal advice, but if anyone should have the rights to the story and the name it should be this forum
And in the TOS agreement that was in effect at the time MOP posted precisely that. When you posted under that TOS you ceded ownership of the material to the site.

Now it's one thing to post a TOS agreement and quite another to defend the right against copyright violations. If you were to file suit against Disney or the John Titor Foundation, which is run by an attorney (Larry Haber) who specialized in intellectual property rights, you had better pack a lunch...and have a sizeable bank account. You're not likely to win and you need to plan on spending $100,000+ to lose the battle.

The purported owner of the John Titor Foundation is "Kay Titor", John Titor's mother. But John Titor is a fictional character. Therefore Kay Titor is equally fictional. Who actually owns the JTF has never been revealed. It could be anyone including Disney. There's no fraud involved. Kay Titor's name only appears in the book, "John Titor: A Time Traveler's Tale", a work of fiction and during Larry Haber interviews on Coast-to-Coast AM after George Noory took over the show. That name appears nowhere in any corporate filing or DBA filing for the JTF. If Disney does not own the JTF there's nothing stopping Haber's client from selling it to Disney.
 
If you've learned anything about quantum mechanics then you should have spotted the "silly" physics in his description of the gadget. Do you recall how he described the thing, word for word not a paraphrase, and what it meant? Post it and give it a try.

He actually did state the mass of his twin black holes to a very good approximation. Do you recall what that mass was? Based on your knowledge of quantum physics what does that black hole mass imply versus his silly physics assertions?

Do you recall his description of how he spun up his twin black holes using electrons? Based on your knowledge of quantum mechanics what does firing the second and subsequent electrons into the twin black holes imply?

Do you recall the silly physics in the Fat Finger Cigar Man photo of the bent laser inside the truck and what that implies?

Have fun answering these questions. Hopefully it will give you some direction about Titor's "physics". 🤠
1. A gravity distortion time displacement unit.

a. Gravity distortion is a valid concept tied to Einstein's theory of General Relativity, where mass and energy warp spacetime.
b. Time Displacement relates to time or shifts in temporal positioning.

Considering General Electric named the unit, I would say it was a bit silly.

I won't argue your conclusions scientifically, but I think that some things people forgot John said. For instance, he said this:

"First, I am not a physicist. "Time travel" is only a tool that allowed me to my job in 1975. Most airline pilots are not aerospace engineers."

So, if a bumpkin like me ran into a physicist on my mission that demanded an explanation, I am pretty sure whatever I was taught in a year's time, would not satisfy a scientist's curiosity. I am almost certain I couldn't even explain how stairs are built if my mission was on the second floor, let alone a time machine. BTW, that was the amount of training he said he had. One year.

I also found a quote about the size of the singularity. I could have sworn he said something about being the size of an electron. But at that size, it sure as hell wouldn't be mobile. Except, there are two things. One, the size of an electron can't be measured, it is known to be effectively point-like with no measurable dimensions. However, some observers limit the size to be less than 10−22 m. Quantum Mechanics describes its behavior and not the size, but by its wave function.

Oh, and the quote from John

"For those asking how come a microsingularity doesn't swallow the earth or want to know details about the size, stability, mass, temperature and resulting Hawking Radiation from such a thing, those are details I must keep to myself."

As for the third question, I am just going by what my chatbot can dig up. So, what I have to say about that would be irrelevant, due to ignorance. However, from what I can tell, the implications of injecting a second electron into an event horizon could have several effects, but all seem to be mostly speculative. If you could shine a light on that, I find it incredibly interesting.

As for the fat fingered cigar chomping laser bender. I never really understood that image. If I were to take a crack at what the photo implies, I would say that the person is demonstrating gravitational lensing. I am guessing that what makes it silly, is that if there was an object with enough mass to bend light, it wouldn't be possible to throw two of those objects in the back of pick-up truck, or an old muscle car he said he traveled to '75. Or whenever.

These are great points.

This is exactly why I love this story. What you're saying maybe completely accurate, and I am in no position to tell you that you are wrong about these revelations. (to me)

I have heard time travel stories before, and I know you guys have heard some whoppers. The thing that sets them apart is that it takes a physicist to figure out why he is fake. It takes sociologist to dispute his political implications. It would take a theoretical physicist to accurately depict John's story. (According to patent paperwork, Disney did just that.) A theologian to discuss his views on God and death. A Biologist to even be aware of the rat experiment done in the 80s that he brought, and so much more. Nothing comes close.

So, I ask you. With all of that being said. What does all of it imply?
 
On a personal note, I find that John saying Hydrogen fuel cells become a big deal in the future.
From what I have read, it takes more energy to produce fuel cells than what the fuel cell's output.
 
1. A gravity distortion time displacement unit.

a. Gravity distortion is a valid concept tied to Einstein's theory of General Relativity, where mass and energy warp spacetime.
b. Time Displacement relates to time or shifts in temporal positioning.

Considering General Electric named the unit, I would say it was a bit silly... <snip for brevity>
That's a nice post but it didn't address a single question that I asked. I assure you that in Titor's original description of his gadget he was very specific in the details - he didn't just say, "It's a gravity distortion time displacement unit." I asked for the entire quote. So I'll give it to you to analyze:

"Posted by John Titor on 01-27-2001 12:45 PM
'I am from 2036' - Post-2-Post BBS

My "time" machine is a stationary mass, temporal displacement unit
manufactured by General Electric. The unit is powered by two, top-spin,
dual-positive singularities that produce a standard, off-set Tipler
sinusoid."

Now I ask:

When he says his machine "is a stationary mass" what does that mean?
When he says it is "powered by two top-spin singularities" what does that mean?
When he says the singularities are "dual-positive" what does that mean?
And last, what is a "standard off-set Tipler sinusoid"?
Follow-up: What does he mean by "standard" Tipler sinusoid?

Sorry, my friend, but you questioned my assertion that his physics was silly. The above was his first post in which he made specific assertions about the underlying physics of his gadget. I'd appreciate a response that addresses the facts as presented by Titor. These are, after all, his words, not mine.
 
1. A gravity distortion time displacement unit.

a. Gravity distortion is a valid concept tied to Einstein's theory of General Relativity, where mass and energy warp spacetime.
b. Time Displacement relates to time or shifts in temporal positioning.

Considering General Electric named the unit, I would say it was a bit silly.

I won't argue your conclusions scientifically, but I think that some things people forgot John said. For instance, he said this:

"First, I am not a physicist. "Time travel" is only a tool that allowed me to my job in 1975. Most airline pilots are not aerospace engineers."

So, if a bumpkin like me ran into a physicist on my mission that demanded an explanation, I am pretty sure whatever I was taught in a year's time, would not satisfy a scientist's curiosity. I am almost certain I couldn't even explain how stairs are built if my mission was on the second floor, let alone a time machine. BTW, that was the amount of training he said he had. One year.

I also found a quote about the size of the singularity. I could have sworn he said something about being the size of an electron. But at that size, it sure as hell wouldn't be mobile. Except, there are two things. One, the size of an electron can't be measured, it is known to be effectively point-like with no measurable dimensions. However, some observers limit the size to be less than 10−22 m. Quantum Mechanics describes its behavior and not the size, but by its wave function.

Oh, and the quote from John

"For those asking how come a microsingularity doesn't swallow the earth or want to know details about the size, stability, mass, temperature and resulting Hawking Radiation from such a thing, those are details I must keep to myself."

As for the third question, I am just going by what my chatbot can dig up. So, what I have to say about that would be irrelevant, due to ignorance. However, from what I can tell, the implications of injecting a second electron into an event horizon could have several effects, but all seem to be mostly speculative. If you could shine a light on that, I find it incredibly interesting.

As for the fat fingered cigar chomping laser bender. I never really understood that image. If I were to take a crack at what the photo implies, I would say that the person is demonstrating gravitational lensing. I am guessing that what makes it silly, is that if there was an object with enough mass to bend light, it wouldn't be possible to throw two of those objects in the back of pick-up truck, or an old muscle car he said he traveled to '75. Or whenever.

These are great points.

This is exactly why I love this story. What you're saying maybe completely accurate, and I am in no position to tell you that you are wrong about these revelations. (to me)

I have heard time travel stories before, and I know you guys have heard some whoppers. The thing that sets them apart is that it takes a physicist to figure out why he is fake. It takes sociologist to dispute his political implications. It would take a theoretical physicist to accurately depict John's story. (According to patent paperwork, Disney did just that.) A theologian to discuss his views on God and death. A Biologist to even be aware of the rat experiment done in the 80s that he brought, and so much more. Nothing comes close.

So, I ask you. With all of that being said. What does all of it imply?

Well, GE used to be an original equipment manufacturer. Meaning, you could go to GE with a design of some kind of device, and they will build it for you following your blueprints.

But, GE has also reinvented itself. It has sold off all its businesses, except one: Areospace. That last remaining unit is the new GE company. It specializes in manufacturing custom airplane engines for other companies.


It could be that in his time, GE was one of the few companies that still had the facilities to do custom manufacturing. And, given the time travel device traverses "sub space", it would be appropriate to engage a company that had areospace expertise
 
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Well, GE used to be an original equipment manufacturer. Meaning, you could go to GE with a design of some kind of device, and they will build it for you following your blueprints.

But, GE has also reinvented itself. It has sold off all its businesses, except one: Areospace. That last remaining unit is the new GE company. It specializes in manufacturing custom airplane engines for other companies.


It could be that in his time, GE was one of the few companies that still had the facilities to do custom manufacturing. And, given the time travel device traverses "sub space", it would be appropriate to engage a company that had areospace expertise
That's correct. GE spun off three independent corporations: GE Aerospace, GE HealthCare and GE Vernova. Both GE Aerospace and GE Vernova are manufacturers. Aerospace, of course, manufactures with partner Safran the CFM and LEAP series of hi-bypass turbofan jet engines and with Pratt & Whitney the GP series of turbofan jet engines. Vernova manufactures wind, solar, gas and steam generators. All the other 100 or so subsidiaries were sold off and are no longer a part of any of the three new corporations.

Why didn't Titor know this? General Electric (GE) ceased to exist on February 27, 2024 when it was dissolved and three completely independent corporations emerged. There is no holding company named GE that owns any part of these three corporations. In 2036 there will be no GE to build a time clock let alone a time machine. And remember, Titor didn't just say GE did this and that, he provided pages from his operating manual that are labelled to indicate the gadget was manufactured by "GE", not GE Aerospace or GE Vernova - just GE. 🤠
 
The thing that I find interesting, even if you take out the time traveling aspect, it could still make for an awesome futuristic, realism style, dystopian book, or movie trilogy.
Jay, outstanding! You're catching on to what the Titor Saga actually is.

As I've said before, if this was real, if Momma Kay Titor was a real person and was actually afraid that the Alphabet Soup federal law enforcement and intelligence community was after her and any secrets she held about her son John Titor...would she hire a Hollywood entertainment industry lawyer who specializes in intellectual property rights and movie deals to protect her from the "infernal revenuers"? Of course not.

Would the actual holder of the intellectual property surrounding the character John Titor engage the services of such a person to form a corporation, The John Titor Foundation, to manage the entertainment and intellectual properties of the corporation? Yes.

The Titor Saga is about The Book, The Syndicated Radio Show, The Play, The Movie, The Coffee Mugs, The Graphical Novel, The T-shirts, etc. It always has been. The problem for the JTF was how do they, in 2001, start a sci-fi meme on the emergent internet BBS system by telling a time travel adventure/nuclear war story and then turn that into a viable chain of commercial products and programs? So far the answer has been, they don't.

The Book was distributed to several people like myself for free. Thereafter it became the equivelent of a coffee table book; no one was interested in paying for a book that rehashed our posts that can be found here for free both then and now. The Play, The Radio Show, The Graphical Novel and The Movie never got off the ground. No one bought the t-shirts of coffee mugs principally because in relative terms no one has heard of John Titor. At least not enough people to make a commercial market. In the end it was a well intended experiment in communication and entertainment that simply failed to catch on sufficient to make it financially feasible to invest in.
 
That's correct. GE spun off three independent corporations: GE Aerospace, GE HealthCare and GE Vernova. Both GE Aerospace and GE Vernova are manufacturers. Aerospace, of course, manufactures with partner Safran the CFM and LEAP series of hi-bypass turbofan jet engines and with Pratt & Whitney the GP series of turbofan jet engines. Vernova manufactures wind, solar, gas and steam generators. All the other 100 or so subsidiaries were sold off and are no longer a part of any of the three new corporations.

Why didn't Titor know this? General Electric (GE) ceased to exist on February 27, 2024 when it was dissolved and three completely independent corporations emerged. There is no holding company named GE that owns any part of these three corporations. In 2036 there will be no GE to build a time clock let alone a time machine. And remember, Titor didn't just say GE did this and that, he provided pages from his operating manual that are labelled to indicate the gadget was manufactured by "GE", not GE Aerospace or GE Vernova - just GE. 🤠

Well... I guess what I meant is people usually contract English phrases over time out of laziness. GE Areospace could have been shortened back to GE. Like General Motors Corporation is GM, and General Motors Canada is GMC. Or, American Motors Corporation was always known as AMC. In their manuals, the acronym is usually printed across the pages, with the full name of the manufacturer and contact info on the last page

They could have dropped Areospace from the name. Maybe by then they went into other lines of manufacturing than just aerospace. With what's happening in America today, it's likely a lot of corporations will not survive their present form, or exist at all in a decade.

So GE Aerospace could become something else. They may amalgamate with other companies to achieve larger scales of production in-order to survive. Maybe the destruction of the world economy will leave some gaping holes to fill, and opportunities for GE. Especially if there are no companies left that could afford or want their product.

Maybe nobody builds airplanes anymore in Titors time. It sounded like everybody fell back to local economies. Titor transported oranges by boat, and not by truck. Maybe carbon based fuels are a rare commodity in his time. Maybe the boat used sails. Maybe that's why nobody wanted a plane. If the flying cars seen over new jersey were titor's team, then their "airplanes" are electric. They would have to be small, as carrying a lot of batteries for bigger ones would make them too heavy to lift off.

Why do I say Titor's team? Some of the flying cars when approached by police drones or helicopters just vanished in place. Yes, there is a test facility in Jersey for drones that can transport goods, and can even carry a single occupant. But, they use gas powered engines and are very noisy. Titor's aren't.

If time travel technology exists by then, it would be a new frontier GE Areospace would try to get into. It fits into their expertise of building engines for hi-tech travel. In the case of space, time travel has the same problems as rocketships do, that of shielding the travellers from the medium being travelled in. With time travel, it's "subspace". Not the same as a vacuum, it's an ultrahigh energy environment, but just as dangerous as space is. One major difference is in space, you can use metal to protect the travelers. In subspace, anything built out of any kind of matter will be instantly vaporized, including the vehicle itself. So, you would need a company that has experience in figuring ways to protect components of the vehicle in hostile environments.
 
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