John Titor returning October or November?
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Or he was told in advance.
Not every aspect of his story was true.
We like to discuss it. It seems to upset you that people want to talk about it, but you're going to have to sit back and deal with it because these forums are where it all began. I'm not going to stop discussing Titor because you do not believe. Sorry.[DOUBLEPOST=1412594629,1412592551][/DOUBLEPOST]
You won't read the book Conviction of a Time Traveler, either. You may just discover that there is much that he got right. Non-believers won't read the book. They're afraid they could be wrong. I find it very amusing.
Yes, he did. He's not out for fame and fortune and the book is a thorough analysis of the Titor story, so there is nothing to to be "sketchy" about. I just feel if people read it, we could have a more intelligent debate about Titor. It's not about convincing people, but many people refuse to read about the possibility that Titor is real. People don't have to agree with the book, but at least give the ideas a chance before making an on the fly opinion with no facts. That's all I'm trying to say. Also, debates don't have to become subjective with insults, you know? I see posts from people who don't believe in Titor that I think are very well written up until they say things like "Do you really believe this crap?" and "You are crazy if....". I personally feel that shows weakness and lack of self confidence. (FYI, I'm not directing this at you, Ronnie). If you are confident with what you are saying, you don't have to "attack" in an effort to throw the final punch.
There are also many other sides of the story that aren't discussed much. I rarely bring them up because of ridicule, but some patterns have been found, there are links to other literature, and there are reasons to believe that the posts aren't what they seem. I have not seen anyone able to "copy" this much information, although so many impostors have tried.
Anyway, not trying to convince. As I've said, I'm just asking that people debate with kindness and respect and not instantly put people down that disagree.
P.S. Yes, I became defensive in my previous post to you about spoon feeding info. I apologize.
RainmanTime
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That is rhetoric that is not quite true. If he were not out for "fortune" then why does he not post the book on a website, for free? Anyone who is really serious and, as you claim, not out for "fortune" would be more interested in putting his ideas out there for ALL to see and debate, and not worried about making a buck.
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SkeptiSaurus1
Temporal Novice
Hi Darby, Rainman and Co!
It's been almost seven years since I posted on this site on the subject of Titor. The last time I started a thread thread here it was titled, 'Pamela's Top Ten Most Leading Titor Questions' in which I queried the logic and veracity of Pamela's involvement in the the Titor hoax.
Having lost interest in this internet myth for a while, I just thought I'd pop in to see the latest 'developments' and was not in the slightest surprised to to learn that Scampboy still has his misguided defenders. Nor was I in the least bit amazed to discover that...GASP!...he's on his way BACK!
And, I'm guessing..this time it's PERSONAL!!!
Aaaahhhhh........................................................................................................................................Yawn.....(!)
Exactly like any number of fantasy movies that don't require (or even rule out) the possibility of a sequel, it seems that the Titor legend (commercially - or otherwise -) simply DEMANDS a return!
What form will it take I wonder?
We can but speculate...
Will it be... Highlander 2? (There can be only One! ...or, perhaps, two sequels?)
Will it be...Grease 2? (Like many a terrible sequel, this one falls down on simple maths, as it tries to rehash the original without the talent, energy or essential ingredients that made the first one a hit. )
Will it be BENEATH The Planet of the Apes? (In which there's a proper END to the idea of any more sequels built into the story - as indeed there was to the original story! ...until we can think up a time-twisting, commercially-lead solution to the problem of no more sequels...i.e: ESCAPE from the Planet of the Apes, CONQUEST of the Planet Of the Apes and BATTLE for the Planet of the Apes)
Will it be the odious Sex in the City 2? Where the commercial necessity of a sequel DESTROYS not only any vague artistic credibility but also any moral credibility (Not, to be fair, that there was much of that to begin with)
Will it be Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest? (Unnecessarily complication of the plot puts the brakes on any real fun.)
Will it be Beethoven's 2nd? (Silly shaggy dog story gets shaggier and sillier?)
Will it be Escape from LA? (Cool, low budget original idea scuppered by poor low budget and shitty sequel idea)
Will it be Highlander II: The Quickening? (This oddity just complicates things further, frequently contradicting its predecessor in a derivative future setting. )
Will it be The Lost Boys: The Tribe? (Just about everything gets a downgrade in quality)
Will it be Blues Brothers 2000? (None of the goofy charm that made the original such fun, and the big set pieces feel forgettably shallow)
Will it be Speed 2? (Unable to summon any of the tension, thrills or wow factor of the earlier high-concept hit)
Will it be American Psycho II? (Gone is any satire, tension and black humour. What we're left with is a reputation-tarnishing stinker attached to the original by only a tacked-on intro)
Just saying
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
No, I am pointing out that your claim about him is not backed up by any facts. Hence, it is merely your opinion...or, a commercial for him.
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JohnQAnonTitor
Chrono Cadet
David Boomer.[DOUBLEPOST=1412735846,1412735114][/DOUBLEPOST]You smug naysayers think you have this John Titor mystery all figured out. Well that's all well and good. The only naysayers who have a lot figured out about who these "hoaxers" really are, are Darby and Razimus. Darby won't say it directly for fear of legal action and Razimus is a pal. I really want to take some more time to say thank you naysayers and believers again. You are really throwing the wrong people off the right trail.
Larry Haber was told that Titor himself and or an interview or more posts will appear around this time. He did not say specifically what would happen.
Larry Haber was told that Titor himself and or an interview or more posts will appear around this time. He did not say specifically what would happen.
I've been conversing with him for 2 years. I know him a bit better than you do. There is nothing shady or untrustworthy about him.
I'm defending a friend.[DOUBLEPOST=1412765698][/DOUBLEPOST]
It's ok. Weak people use insults and negativity as a defense mechanism because they feel the world must agree with them, even though they've done zero research for themselves. All we can do is sit back and watch the circus as the truth unfolds.[DOUBLEPOST=1412765771][/DOUBLEPOST]
Please provide direct proof of your claim. Thank you. FYI - self published books cost money to print
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
This is what is known as the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy. It is intended to try to combat my refutation of your rhetoric, but it is invalid.
I already did.However, you conveniently focused on "print" and ignored the other thing I wrote which does not incur costs. The direct evidence is that there are plenty of places to post material on the web for free. What you have done is called misdirection. You choose to ignore the direct evidence I already pointed to that dispels your rhetoric, and instead focus on something you think supports it.
I'd be happy to give it a chance. But I am not paying a red cent to read it because it is quite clear s/he wishes to profit from it. I don't feed those beasts. You are being a book salesman, that is all.
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RainmanTime
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Now your rhetoric is deepening. That is not a healthy place to go (calling me a liar). You made a dubious claim that was obviously not true by a fact of the situation. I showed where the fallacy was. That is hardly lying.
RMT[DOUBLEPOST=1412768978][/DOUBLEPOST]BTW, I should point out how claims work to you:
You were the one making the claim (that he is not out for "fortune"). Ergo, you are the one who needs to provide direct evidence. All I am required to do is exhibit a single falsifying piece of evidence that refutes your claim, which I have done. So in reality, I should be the one continuing to wait for you to provide direct evidence of your claim.
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I am not making the claim that Temporal Recon isn't an honest person. You are, and you don't know him. I'm simply defending a friend
and I will continue to do so as needed. I don't care if we agree on topics, but I will not tolerate people making false claims about a friend of mine.
So, this is going to be a long, circular discussion, it seems. I originally was recommending the book. You decided to make the conversation about the author. The book isn't about the author. It never has been. That's the whole point of his writing anonymously. I was simply asking you to show evidence that he is "shady", and you have none.
Please explain, then, how it is "logical" to judge someone you know NOTHING about? That is a precursor to hate and it's precisely what is wrong with this country.
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Absolutely incorrect. You are twisting things now. I never made any claim about his honesty. It is very simple: I challenged YOUR claim that he is not out for fortune. The fact is simple that he is charging for the book. Were he not charging for the book then your claim would be valid. These are the facts. Please stop bringing in issues which are not part of my challenge to YOUR claim (i.e. honesty).
I made exactly zero false claims. Again, the facts above show you made the claim. I challenged it with facts. As I mentioned above, your rhetoric is now going deep, and off course. I shall not be following you off course, and please do not accuse me of making false claims about your friend. I did no such thing. Once again I point out the fact: YOU made a claim about YOUR friend.
To make this not about the author, the author can do one, simple thing: Make his writing freely available. As I point out, if he so wants to get the story out there, and you so wish to have it discussed, then that is the amicable solution. Because, you see, I have principles as well. And my principle in this case is that I refuse to give a single penny of my money to read someone's theories about John Titor. Period. I am more than willing to discuss his ideas, but I shall not pay to read them. Simple.
Please cease with the rhetoric and false accusation. You are projecting that I am judging your friend. Again I point out I did nothing of this sort. This all began because I challenged your claim. I cast no aspersions on him. He wants to make a profit off his book, which is fine, but I won't pay for it. You were the one claiming something about him (he is not out for fortune). That is prima facie untrue by virtue of the fact he is charging for his book. This is a simple fact, and becoming emotional and insinuating I am being hateful does not help.
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RainmanTime
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BTW
RMT
Another false accusation against me. I never claimed your friend is "shady." Please stop your rhetoric.
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