Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil War)

Nostradamus and World War III

I was surfing the 'net, researching the Illuminati, when I came across this. If anything, this is interesting, considering the cover of this book says "2006-2012," close to what Titor says but not quite. (I think Titor said 2005-2012)

Does anyone feel like checking out this book and its connections with John Titor?
 
Another link (this one is "AMAZINGLY" paralleled with John's "prophecies"):

Nostradamus and World War III (Link 2)

This is amazingly, strikingly similar to John Titor's prophecies and current events. I will attempt to highlight the parallels.

NOTE: Italicized sentences are my comments.

Those studying the Prophecies of Nostradamus say that he has indicated the possibility of a Third World War. Indeed, in some of his quatrains he mentions terrifying battles and events occurring in and around Europe, Asia and Africa which do not seem to have happened till date. There is, however, a difference of opinion among the experts about the overall sequence of these events and most of all, their timing.

My approach to deciphering the quatrains is based on the assumption that if a world wide war of this magnitude indeed takes place, it must have been mentioned in prophecies written in various religious texts and prophecies of non-religious nature which are part of the folklore of different cultures. I believe that a comparative study of all such prophecies vis-à-vis those of Nostradamus, along with insights into the local culture, tradition, history etc. may enable us to construct a more detailed picture of the prophesized events than what is possible by studying an individual prophecy in isolation. Most of these prophecies concentrate on the local perspective of a global war. But by finding out the similarities with other prophecies, we can find the global connection of the local events.

Contrary to what many of us think, prophesized events are neither inevitable nor are their time of occurrence fixed. A prophesized event is the one which is most likely to happen. It is merely one of the several possibilities. Similarly, even if an event takes place, its timing is not fixed. The deciding factor is the human free will. Collective human free will can alter an event, change its timing or even stop it entirely. Some events are hard to change for it requires a collective decision moving away entirely from the "logical" course. Sometimes, even an individual's decision may alter an event having wide implications. Most affected by human free will is the timing of an event. While collective human behavior is hard to change, the time of the event taking place changes according to collective or individual decisions. Some prophecies do indicate a timing of the war, not in terms of the exact date but by mentioning the appearance of certain signs like a specific astrological conjunction or an event preceding the war.

Broadly speaking, the various prophecies indicate that the Third World War will be preceded by an unprecedented increase in large-scale natural calamities all over the world like big earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, famines etc. Localized wars, revolutions, political disturbances and large scale terrorist attacks will increase. Assassinations of high profile leaders will take place and tensions between various countries will rise. The economies of various countries will be severely affected, leading to unemployment or inflation. The actual war would be of a short duration but is said to be several times more destructive in terms of the cost of human lives and property than all the previous world wars taken together.

To summarize what I have analyzed in this site, based on various prophecies, the Third World War would start when Russia suddenly attacks Europe in coalition with certain Middle Eastern countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Libya and probably China (Note that it says "probably;" John completely went against this idea). Prior to the World War III, USA would be severely crippled by terrorist attacks, assassinations, a civil war and an economic collapse. Prior to that, there would be a civil war in Italy, during which the Vatican would be overrun by the mob. The Pope would escape but many of his cardinals would die. The palace and the chapels would be burnt down. While on the run, the Pope would be captured and killed. There would be a schism in the Vatican and three Popes would reign at the same time (Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Catholics believe that the Pope after this one will be the last one?), propped up by competing powers. Supported by US and other catholic countries, the Papacy would be shifted elsewhere and a "true" Pope would be elected there. Europe would be almost overrun by the Russian and eastern forces and many of its cities and also those of USA would be destroyed by conventional weapons as well as weapons of mass destruction like nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Russia would attack from the North as well as from the East of Europe. An Arab / Iranian army would attack from the south. The Pope, and later the British Prime Minister would be forced to flee to the US. Paris would be destroyed by "revolutionaries" within France. The attack on the US would stop the Civil War there. New types of weapons, like Chemical Weapons and particularly what appears to be portable Laser weapons, would be used in the war. At the same time an unprecedented disaster would take place. A comet would suddenly appear over the earth in the peak of the war, would break into several pieces and fall to the earth. Smaller pieces would rain fire on cities and forests all over the world, burning them down. A large piece would fall into the sea creating a Tsunami of Biblical proportions, flooding parts of Europe (including Britain), USA and Africa. One medium sized chunk would fall on land, creating a huge crater, resulting in earthquake and volcano activities all over the world. This event would loosen the grip of the invading army over Europe. A joint coalition of US and European forces under the leadership of a charismatic leader "Chiren" would organize a counter-attack against the invading forces in Europe and elsewhere. The Russian forces in Europe would be almost destroyed by the counter-attack and this would lead to a revolution in Russia and the Russian leader who started the war would be assassinated. Russia, under a new leader would then join the western coalition and fight against its former allies, who would eventually be defeated. The Pope would return to Europe and Chiren would be crowned the Monarch. Peace would return to the world after a loss of almost two-thirds of its population (John says that three billion die from the World War, but I think more will die from other events and the wealth of nations accumulated over millennia. But this would surely not be the end of the world.

It is hard to understand at this stage why Russia would suddenly attack Europe. Yet, most of the prophecies seem to agree on this part. Logically too, it is only Russia which has the capability to take on the might of USA and Europe, even after the break up of its empire. It still has sufficient nuclear weapons, technology and manpower to do so. The overall picture of the events leading to the World War is not clear. What appears from some prophecies is that immediately preceding the war, Russia would have tensions with the west over some Middle Eastern affair. But the actual war would begin after the assassination of a political leader in the Balkan area, who could be the famous "Mabus" often discussed in the context of Nostradamus's prophecies. The Russian attack might be a result of its perception that the assassination, probably in one of its friendly countries, could be a prelude to an western invasion and the best way would be to pre-empt it. A major terrorist attack on the US, assassination of some world leaders and another war in the Middle East may precede the Third World War, apart from numerous natural disasters. Some prophecies say that before the 3rd World War, Israel would grant statehood to Palestine. Then oil would be discovered there and a war would start between Israel and Palestine. It is probable that it is this war that would generate tensions between USA and Russia, since US and Russian fleets are said to confront each other in a tense standoff in the Mediterranean before the war in yet another prophecy. The Bible and the Islamic texts also mention Iraq. It is said that the river Euphrates would dry up and something would be discovered in its dried up riverbed, which would cause much tension among nations. There are also prophecies on the destruction of the Al-Aqsa Mosque / Temple Mount in Jerusalem before the war and the death of Saddam Hussein in US custody even before his trial begins.

Amazing.
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

Yup thats damn interesting.

According to my calculation, everything will begin at the end of this year(2005) after Cristmas (with a major catastrophe).

Titor: I remember going to Disney World at Christmas and I remember going to the beach in Daytona.

I believe that book contains certain amazing pictures drawn by Nostradamus.
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

According to my calculation, everything will begin at the end of this year(2005) after Cristmas (with a major catastrophe).

As I have said before, anything can happen. I hope you're wrong, but part of me wants Titor to be telling the truth, just so I can stick my middle finger up to all the people who have seemingly made it their life to prove he was a fake.
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

I don't know whether I want the dark ages to dawn again or not, I think I would enjoy life all the same either way.

GS
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

According to my calculation, everything will begin at the end of this year(2005) after Cristmas (with a major catastrophe).
The question becomes: Will you finally admit it was BS when this doesn't happen? Or will you give some excuse why it didn't happen, and then continue to post about how Titor could still be right?

I'll be posting here on New Years Day, for certain. So I will resurrect this thread and ask you "what happened?"

RMT
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

The thing is, you are so set in the view that this is BS that NOTHING that happens is going to make you think otherwise.
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

The thing is, you are so set in the view that this is BS that NOTHING that happens is going to make you think otherwise.
That's the very point I have been trying to make. Another way of saying it is that I am taking creative control over the future that I will allow to come to pass in my local spacetime. Each of us has this power. Some choose to execute it. Others pretend it isn't there. When many humans execute this power in a coherent field, it can make amazing things come to pass.

There are other ways to describe it, but none of them relieve each of us of the responsibility for creating the future we wish to live in. Are you telling me you would really like to live in the world that Titor described?

RMT
 
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Are you telling me you would really like to live in the world that Titor described?

Not really, but I dont believe that I can directly affect the future by thought alone (at least not on this sort of scale, local 'random' events maybe), and also the very fact that this story has survived so long leads me to think that there must be something to it. As I have said before I don't really want it to happen, but it would almost validate the time people have spent on this.
 
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Not really, but I dont believe that I can directly affect the future by thought alone (at least not on this sort of scale, local 'random' events maybe), and also the very fact that this story has survived so long leads me to think that there must be something to it. As I have said before I don't really want it to happen, but it would almost validate the time people have spent on this.

Infowars.

See my other posts on the science of information surpassing the science of energy.
RMT
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

I am definately not a scholar, but I know that Titor talks about this cival war and all, but does he not also talk about how things are not exactly the same in each time line, could it be a different country with the war, say like France, seeing as how they are getting there pretty damn fast, which would more than likely also cancel the Olympics, right? just a question.
 
Re: Hurricane Katrina ties it all together (Civil

Ever74' because said John Titor came back with this information, from a probable similar to a degree off, like timeline, we may have mobised the timeline.

So this might be a set of double reflecting mirrors, where we are all looking at a timeline, that is looking like a timeline, that is looking like a timeline.

The entire timeline that we are in, due to contamination, might have skated completely over and not be the same timeline any more.

In otherwords, my good friend Rainman time, could be arguing that all men in this thread, wear wimens white special occasion lace dresses, as this argument having to do with altering the timeline, might be affecting the timeline as much as saying that the civil war should not have happened.

Unless you have a time travel vehicle, or a probe, that has what is known as a timeline localizer indicator, which tells you what timeline this is, we have no idea what timeline this might be now?
 
Another link (this one is "AMAZINGLY" paralleled with John's "prophecies"):
This is amazingly, strikingly similar to John Titor's prophecies and current events. I will attempt to highlight the parallels.

I tend to be on the opposite side of this. Maybe JT, a hoaxer, read the Nostradamus prophecies and made his story revolve around the likes of that, which wouldn't be a hard thing to do. It also would give him a base for his story, he would just need to elaborate a little.. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/yum.gif
 
I haven't been here in a long time but I'm not surprised this debate is still going on. I can't understand some of you people, I read threads like this one how different events "prove Titor's story", by stretching and manipulating everything he posted so that current events sound vaguely like the stories he told, then it's "proof". My god, the Hurrican Katrina theory is barely grasping at straws, it's completely baseless, it's not proof of anything.

RMT then comes up with sound scientific logic as to why this makes no sense, and he's flamed. Some of you people want the Titor story to be true so badly that you grasp at anything as proof. When it comes down to it, let's look at Ockham's Razor - the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

What is more likely, John Titor came from the future to find an old model computer and save the world, but stopped by to tell his story on an internet forum so that a select few would know the horrible future, or, someone put together a clever (not overly clever mind you) hoax by telling partial stories that cannot be proven or disproven because of countless loopholes he gave himself.

The real problem that I see is that some of you will still grasp on to your beliefs 15 to 20 years from now, making excuses as to why it hasn't happened yet, but how the signs are still there. It is scary actually, it's like watching the birth of a new extreme fundamentalist religion, people basing arguments on blind faith. I wonder if the guy who started this mess is still reading these threads and laughing.

Is the Titor story true, or do you want it to be true?
 
Welcome back, Rhudey.

It's nice to know there are still people who think critically "out there". I was beginning to feel quite alone here with the way people are so loose with their "analysis" and unwillingness to adopt a strict scientific approach to this whole scenario. Every so often Darby drops by and lays a few gems on us, and that always gives me a glimmer of hope. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

You should check out Good_Scientist's new thread on "The Definitive Time Travel Investigation". IMHO this sort of thing is why we are REALLY here, not to endlessly debate Titor's reality. I think we should have a separate JT forum, so those of us who want to work REAL TT science would not have to be bothered with such folks that desperately want the JT story to be true.

RMT
 
Remember Ray, this Titror affair, might be a nine headed hydra sort of affair.


Saying, example:Rains did not look right as a Klingon, but had the inner nastiness to be one.Creedo stood there like a dumb-fu*k, while his mistress bared needle pointed teeth at him.

Creedo caught the look in Rain's eyes, "Hit her! Hit the bit*h without any due recourse"!

Rains made something fall from the table, which distracted his, so he could get in Creed's way and hit his.

There was no training for this, you just had to think like a Klingon
 
Here are two links the third not found, which intimates that big oil, had proprietary seatings, on a supposed energy making policy council meeting, at the White House in year 2001.

By law, they should not have had a seat at these proceedings, as this would be termed as oligarchism, or monopoly.

*The original article, which was paraphrased, Big Oil Sat at energy task force table.

Washington Post, Dana Milbank and Justin Blum

http://www.yuricareport.com/PoliticalAnalysis/FraudinWhiteHouse.htm

http://www.whitecloud.com/about_oil.htm
 
I couldn't agree more RMT and Rhudey. But I don't need scientific evidence to know that the Titor story is BS, it's all just what you believe in and how you believe it. And I believe you can give all the evidence in the world to these guys that Titor is BS, but they will never give up. They will continually twist his words around and try to prove that all of this is going to happen, even though the EVIDENCE suggests otherwise.

You have to look at both sides of this arguement that has been going on for god knows how long. Think about it this way, if the same type of person claiming to travel from the future came onto this board NOW, would any of you believe it? Or do you just believe Titor and no one else just because he was the first of his kind? I really believe that someone like Titor would not even get his story believed in this day and age. We were all gullible back in 2000 when he first posted but now we have learned that it was just all a bunch of BS being thrown at us, at least some of us have and that it is VERY easy to make things up over the internet. And some of us may have not believed Titor from the start, and it looks like those people (RMT) should have been believed in the first place.

Words are easy to manipulate but scientfic evidence is not, which has proved why titor is bs, from his fake pictures to the predictions that NEVER came true. You all just fail to recognize that and just hold on to hope that one day the world will NOT be a better place, and that's something I don't understand...
 
I never believed it or him, I just didn't get why he would bother trying to warn us.
If it happens, it happens. So let's see if it does, because when it doesn't all 'titorites' or 'titorians' should realise they will have a massively devalued and smaller voice on this board as punishment for all the [censored] that has been said about and because of him. If you are right, well we die anyway. I plan on getting really wasted this new year's eve and 2007 and 2008 and 2009 and so on till bout 2075 (hopefully, if my liver is still around).

GS
 
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