Greetings. I am a time traveller from the year 2064

For anybody else, the concept of spirituality is utter and complete ridiculousness. I respect people’s right to believe in this nonsense, but in no way is time travel spiritual. I’d appreciate it if questions could be kept to the proven scientific realm. Thank you.
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If you please, where is your scientific proof of space travel? If you want scientific proof of anything, you are in the wrong genre of forum. Though not "proof," a doctor speaking on astral travel should mean something to you.


View: https://youtu.be/VOty4bUPTPQ?feature=shared

Quoted directly: "Dr Susan Blackmore: A psychologist, lecturer and writer researching consciousness, memes, and anomalous experiences, and Visiting Professor at the University of Plymouth"

I don't know why you use spirituality to dismiss astral travel. I am not a person who would call themselves spiritual, but I do it. Not as easily as I'd like, but I can.

If you say I can't come on here and speak freely, that's an ism. You are exhibiting exclusion in being closed minded. Reminder, evolution moved beyond that a while back. We don't do that anymore. Sorry, but you are going to have to face the fact that if you are blocking this out you are simply covering for the fact that you know it's part of the bigger truth.

It is this kind of prejudice that causes the many performing astral travel to not speak of it. You cannot shut me up. When I see a call for it, I will speak out. Sorry if that busts your security bubble.

When quantum science is on the verge of knowing there are potential universes everywhere around us, that one dimension is the astral plane shouldn't seem a matter of curiosity to anyone. You don't pay attention to quantum physics, obviously, or do you just filter out the parts that are irrelevant to you? Confirmation bias?

No need to raise your voice to shut me down. Try something else, like answering questions as asked.
 
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I didn't explain one part well. Rather than saying "When quantum science is on the verge of knowing there are potential universes everywhere around us..."--I should have said, "When quantum science is fairly certain that there are dimensions everywhere around us, and they're potentially near to proving it, that the astral plane is one such alternate dimension shouldn't seem a matter of curiosity to anyone."
 
viator said:
I am here to tell my story, so there is a safe record on the very forum upon which a version of the time traveller you know as ( John Titor ) himself once came.
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John Titor never visited this forum. TimeTravel_0 (aka TT0) visited this forum. John Titor visited the Post-2-Post BBS. His name, BTW, was not John Titor. When he first came to this BBS we didn't have to register. It was the infancy of the World Wide Web - rules hadn't been established. The same was not the case for Post-2-Post. That was a BBS associated with Art Bell and his radio program Coast-2-Coast AM. It was owned by Premier Networks Radio, a large corporation, that absolutely required us to register. We had to use a "real" name and a "real" email account, meaning a paid email account. They didn't allow free email accounts. For example you could not register using a Hotmail account (now called Gmail). The SysAdmin Keith Rowland screened registrations before activating the account at his end. If he suspected a troll the account was never activated.

So TT0 made up the name "John Titor" on the spot and used the email account [email protected] that he borrowed from some woman. The XXXX is a filler because I'm not posting the complete email address - that is a TOS violation. How do I know about the email account? He told Pamela Moore that that's what he did and why. She passed that information along. Over 20 years ago I contacted the email account holder.

But as a time traveler who knows TT0/Titor you should have already known all of this. Why you would refer to him here as John Titor is a bit of a mystery. You know his real name, yes?

BTW: You are a defector? Who did you defect to? And was is the "MOS" code TK-028? The British Army doesn't use MOS codes the same way as the US Army.

Also can you explain something to us? Just before TT0/Titor stopped posting he promised two things. One, he promised that his parents would forward a viseo of his departure. That never happened. Why? Second, sais he was sending several photos to Art Bell to post on Post-2-Post because "Art's site is so stable." Everyone took that to mean Art's site remained active and well known right up to at least 2036. Titor then stopped posting. Art's "stable" BBS closed down a couple of months later. Why didn't TT0/Titor know that the site was unstable? And it was unstable. How do I know? I talked to Keith Rowland and he told me it was a pain in the ass to manage so he asked Premiere Networks to allow him to shut it down. They said OK. Art Bell agreed.
 
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Emit 0'Levart said:
I didn't explain one part well. Rather than saying "When quantum science is on the verge of knowing there are potential universes everywhere around us..."--I should have said, "When quantum science is fairly certain that there are dimensions everywhere around us, and they're potentially near to proving it, that the astral plane is one such alternate dimension shouldn't seem a matter of curiosity to anyone."
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It's not the dimensions.
Dimensions aren't other planes.
You still have to believe in some sort of mumbo jumbo for astral travel (even moreso for astral time travel.)
No amount of quantum advancement is going to get past that part of the problem.

But, like the poster you responded to, I'm not telling you what you can or cannot say or think.
Just pointing out reality.

Harte
 
Harte said:
It's not the dimensions.
Dimensions aren't other planes.
You still have to believe in some sort of mumbo jumbo for astral travel (even moreso for astral time travel.)
No amount of quantum advancement is going to get past that part of the problem.

But, like the poster you responded to, I'm not telling you what you can or cannot say or think.
Just pointing out reality.

Harte
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I could tell you more about dimensions than you now believe you are telling me. There are multiple perspectives on this. I don't wish to engage you. However, if you do, heads up--I know much about this, maybe more than you. If you are looking for a twit to engage with (your earlier post on the Greetings thread suggests that you are looking for a fight), it is not me.

Yes, you do need to believe in something to astral travel--out of body experiences!
 
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Emit 0'Levart said:
Yes, you do need to believe in something to astral travel--out of body experiences!
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That's what I said.
And QM won't save you there. In fact, there's no reason to bring quantum physics into it. There's nothing in quantum physics that's even related to OOBE's.

Harte
 
Harte said:
That's what I said.
And QM won't save you there. In fact, there's no reason to bring quantum physics into it. There's nothing in quantum physics that's even related to OOBE's.

Harte
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Oopsy, backtracking? Belief in OBEs is good enough now. That's fine with me though.

It's not any concern of mine what you believe. Your beliefs have nothing to do with me and I absolutely do not care. Be my guest and choose the farthest beliefs from mine that your heart desires.

Caution--I am the last one you'd want to argue science with, but you keep evoking. This is the last caution you will be given. The next time I will wipe the floor with your butt. Your call which topic. Before I do, because I know you will evoke again--know this, the one you intend to argue with is a 62 year old female. I want that known before it happens. I will hit you so hard that they will probably close my account. I do not tolerate snivellers.
 
If I were you Harte I'd ignore Emit. There's nothing you'll be able to say to convince them that spiritual rubbish has zero connection to anything relating to science. I'll engage with all responses soon. Life has been rather busy in an attempt to acclimate to the 2024 climate. I appreciate everyone who has engaged with thoughtful discourse.
 
If I were you Harte I'd ignore Emit. There's nothing you'll be able to say to convince them that spiritual rubbish has zero connection to anything relating to science. I'll engage with all responses soon. Life has been rather busy in an attempt to acclimate to the 2024 climate. I appreciate everyone who has engaged with thoughtful discourse.
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Lovely. Thanks.

By the way, stop labeling astral travel as spiritual. At this point, that's shoving words down my throat. Astral travel has NOTHING to do with spirituality. I have no spiritual practices. I have said this before and will not say it again. Actually, with you proving that you intend to continue to badger, I'll block you, but it doesn't mean that I can't participate in your threads. You cannot choose beliefs for everyone. Tut tut.
 
Classicalfan626 said:
It seems that this thread is getting derailed. Everyone, please stop arguing over off-topic issues or I'm going to have to lock this thread.
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It's probably best to delete this thread all together admin. Emit is coming across as a very angry, aggressive person and I don't want to put other members at risk of their abuse over conflicting views. I was under the impression that healthy debate is welcomed, but Emit seems to not want the healthy part. It's rude. So - you can delete it for me if you would? I apologise for the discourse.
 
viator said:
It's probably best to delete this thread all together admin. Emit is coming across as a very angry, aggressive person and I don't want to put other members at risk of their abuse over conflicting views. I was under the impression that healthy debate is welcomed, but Emit seems to not want the healthy part. It's rude. So - you can delete it for me if you would? I apologise for the discourse.
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Emit won't be around to debate anymore. Her account was disabled per her own request. She decided she'd had enough.

Unfortunately, I don't think I can delete this thread since it has already generated a lot of posts. Would you like me to lock it?
 
Emit 0'Levart said:
Caution--I am the last one you'd want to argue science with, but you keep evoking. This is the last caution you will be given. The next time I will wipe the floor with your butt. Your call which topic. Before I do, because I know you will evoke again--know this, the one you intend to argue with is a 62 year old female. I want that known before it happens. I will hit you so hard that they will probably close my account. I do not tolerate snivellers.
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I doubt that very much. I hold a degree in mechanical engineering with a math minor and worked in that field for 20 years before becoming a high school mathematics and physics teacher until retirement.

Harte
 
Hell, back for two days after three years and already I've run someone off!

Who should be my next victim? :D

Harte
 
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Samriddhi - My goal is not to be believed, I don;t expect it in fact; I am here to leave an archived record, for future travellers to find, as not all of us manage to make it back to the specific line from which we originated (it helps guide them). And of course, to provide you with information regarding the future from which I once lived.

Num7 - Think of my unit as an evolution of John’s. The time he arrived from was a time when this technology was still very much in its infant stages. In 2064, we came a lot further in terms of our understanding of the science behind time travel’s infant baby brother from John’s era . . .
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Greetings, my name is Luke, I hail from the year 2064; a time where the world is recovering from a great many number of civil injustices, wars, and regretful realisation that in this time, now, we (the human race) allowed artificial intelligence to play a greater role in societies around the world than that of a mere deep learning program. I am ashamed to admit that I am a defector, a British soldier (TK-028) from a time unit tasked to maintain the integrity of each existing timeline. I am here to tell my story, so there is a safe record on the very forum upon which a version of the time traveller you know as ( John Titor ) himself once came.
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If you're here to guarantee the integrity of this timeline, that means you can't make any changes, right? Are you some kind of time police?
 
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curiosity.time.travel said:
Num7 - Think of my unit as an evolution of John’s. The time he arrived from was a time when this technology was still very much in its infant stages. In 2064, we came a lot further in terms of our understanding of the science behind time travel’s infant baby brother from John’s era . . .
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To a time travel enabled world that statement doesn't make any sense. You have time machines that can travel to the past. If you can time travel to the past there's no way for you or anyone else to confidently say this or that era marked the infancy or maturity of time travel.

From your perspective time travel is and always was and in its most advanced form. Paradoxically you can't even determine when or if it was invented. You have no perspective whereby you can look to an era and say they didn't have time machines. Given "all the time in the world" a time traveler will eventually visit that time period. Time travel is so common that it wouldn't occur to them to even try to keep it a secret. They would have no concept of a world where there are no time machines, therefore there's nothing for them to keep secret.
 
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Darby said:
They would have no concept of a world where there are no time machines, therefore there's nothing for them to keep secret.
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It timed out on me...

By this quote I mean that time travel technology, given that time travelers have "all the time in the world" to visit other eras, will leak into every era in the past and in its most advanced form. Did it happen instantly or did it take thousands of years? The question makes no sense. Who is going to even contemplate keeping time travel technology a secret? Keep it a secret from whom? Everyone already knows about it because its as common as sunshine or the air we breathe. No one would even have a hint that someone invented it or there was a time when it didn't exist.
 
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