General Conspiracies

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I Just thought that maybe it was worth setting up a new thread for general Conspiracies to continue
from the "Hello Again" thread which is now been locked..

Appologies if it was my recent posts that created this..It was no intentional....I didnt realise or forgot that it was just a PX thread....


Alex Jones videos have been taking my interest lately..with his theories aboutthe New World Order
and How a New Hiltler Nazi Type of regieme may be developing which the majoroity of us are unaware of..

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TheAlexJonesChannel&view=videos
 
As this thread is entitled General Conspiracies, here is one for you. The Space ships in Star Wars ; The Movie are actually real spacecraft.

The following are video's are my proof, as a "real "Star Destroyer is caught on film hovering over Moscow, and another StarDestroyer captured on film elewhere.

Star Destoyer over Moscow

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Alex Jones videos have been taking my interest lately..with his theories aboutthe New World Order
and How a New Hiltler Nazi Type of regieme may be developing which the majoroity of us are unaware of..
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Hello there!

i found these ones:

Jay Rockefeller: Internet should have never existed (and soon it won't)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY&feature=player_embedded

Illuminati logo and double Eagle logo:

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JFK told us the TRUTH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj6bk66SuMc

Bilderbergers Want Global Currency
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderbergers_want_194.html


The MJ 12 List:


<font color="red"> J1: JMM
Adm. John M McConnell
a/k/a "Daddy-O"

J2: RBC
Richard B Cheney
Vice-Resident, USA

J3: PJG
Porter Goss
former DCI
a/k/a the CIA director
a/k/a "Snotface"

J4: BRI
Adm. Bobby Ray Inman
former NSA director
a/k/a "The Cryptkeeper". However
in his defense, his Wikipedia entry contains the following: "In 2006, Inman criticized the Bush administration's use of warrantless domestic wiretaps, making him one of the highest-ranking former intelligence officials to criticize the program in public

J5: HAK
Henry (Heinz) Alfred Kissinger
former Sec'y of State under Tricky Dick Nixon as well as his National Security Advisor

J6: ZB
Zbigniew Brzezinski
another former National Security Advisor, but the Democratic answer to J5. Highly critical of the Bush administration's Iraq policy

J7: RBM
Richard B Myers
a/k/a "CJCS"
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Resident Bush until his recent retirement in Sept. 2005

J8: KT
Kevin Tebbit
Permanent Under Secretary for the British Ministry of Defence
alleged to be the "K" who provided or arranged for some of the 'leaked' information given to Burisch

J9: CT
Carol Thatcher
daughter to former Prime Minister Maggie Thatcher of Great Britain and a school chum to Dan while he was 'schooling' in the British Isles, appointed by Dan to succeed him as J9, Dan having succeeded Romano Prodi, an alleged Illuminist who was Prime Minister of Italy before Berlusconi

J10: AG
Alan Greenspan
former chairman of the Federal Reserve
a/k/a "Xxxx Xxxx"
deleted out of deference to Andrea Mitchell, his wife and a current leading broadcast journalist for NBC News

J11: HEV
Harold E Varmus
former Director of the National Institutes of Health and "an American Nobel prize winning scientist. He was a co-recipient (along with J. Michael Bishop) of the 1989 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for discovery of the cellular origin of retroviral oncogenes."

J12: (previously EM Kelly) [/COLOR]

Prince Philip Implies World Needs 95% Population Reduction


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/090930/world/lifestyle_britain_royal_environment_people

and Quoting my friend Softkiller:
"
George Ure, from thw Web Bots fame, said today there is one thread in another forum about some planetoid coming our way, which he thinks is credible.
I think it's worth to give some credit to it.
Link:

<a href="http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:DTEy49TO_1kJ:www.whenshtf.com/showthread.php?p=190234++22h37m35.92s+++28%2740.07"&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us" target="_blank">http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:DTEy49TO_1kJ:www.whenshtf.com/showthread.php?p=190234++22h37m35.92s+++28%2740.07"&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us[/url]</a>


Peace.
Luis
_________________
Quid Veritas est?

end quoted...


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<font color="blue">Interesting Isn't it? (Maybe it's just me)
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The following are video's are my proof, as a "real "Star Destroyer is caught on film hovering over Moscow, and another StarDestroyer captured on film elewhere.
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What this looks like to me is a video, or film, of a real submarine moving on water, with the cityscape in front of it. It seems to me you can see the sub's bow waves. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif

I like the "Imperial Attack Cruiser," though. Wouldn't want to mess with that thing.
 
What this looks like to me is a video, or film, of a real submarine moving on water, with the cityscape in front of it. It seems to me you can see the sub's bow waves.

I like the "Imperial Attack Cruiser," though. Wouldn't want to mess with that thing.
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Good call. Looked at that first video a few times. Thought they may have used wires to "float" the model of the StarDestroyer across the camera's field of view. Couldn't really see any signs of any wires or strings. I did notice that the area around the model becomes extremely pixelated at times.

The 2nd Video was a much better job.

Of course, the purpose of posting these videos was to demonstrate that good skepticism is needed for any material found on U-Tube. That there are videos that may contain some "real" mysteries is possible, but with the gaggle of fakes, takes away from the videos that might have "some" merit.

And that goes for the plethera of conspiracy theories that appear in these forums, as well. One or two might hold some merit, but are hidden within the fake's.

I've heard tell that Area 51 is merely a distraction, and while all eyes focus on that location, the "real" work is being carried out elsewhere.
 
Hi Recall,


Some good points...The Police states that have or are now developing worldwide and the controllers
being the likes of the bilderbergers that I have heard about before.

Heres another Alex Jones set of videos of how we have been or are being trained as slaves...

Very Disturbing...!

I think Alex Jones does a good job in trying to explain what is going on...

but even then, no doubt there will be other things beyond that..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-FGYmKY4BM&amp;feature=channel_page
 
So that;s how it is Rainman? You get the last word and then lock the thread huh? Sounds very DHS.

So a Titan V maybe not what was the actual launch vehicle to kevlar habitats to the moon, but my point still stands, they used a one-way rocket. In your quest for "debunking", you need to be careful not to miss the point of the big picture. Have you ever heard of a SeaLaunch mission in the news? Do you really think the DOD would spend nearly a billion 1998 dollars to build a mobile rocket launcher and not use it? And this is not a "rocket launcher" in the terms of a missile. I am talking about rockets...big ones, like Titans (I, II, V...who cares...the point is big ass rockets capable of launching a payload to the moon. They launched men to moon 40 yrs ago... don't you think technology has advanced a little to be able to land items on moon w/out intermediate stops?

And NASA is a front. It is a public, entity. It is in the public eye. DOE projects are. NASA projects are. DOD projects are not. DIA projects are not. DOD and DIA spends more money each year on space programs than NASA does. But you've never heard of any of them... Do some research on that.

Furthermore, and more important, before you decided to play King and freeze the previous thread, the above information seems relevant if what Charlie is saying has any merit. Charlie is saying that A) government knows the Earth is about to get a shak'n, and B) fortified underground bunkers won't help a bit. So....wouldn't a lunar colony on the south pole of the moon be just dandy... and to be able to get there from the DOD's personal space port..AKA SeaLaunch?

ps - I've always hated the star treck movies and tv shows. I have always had better things to do then play fantasy.
 
So that;s how it is Rainman? You get the last word and then lock the thread huh?
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I am a Mod. So yes, that is how it is. In fact, I did not even have to give you the courtesy of a warning.

So a Titan V maybe not what was the actual launch vehicle to kevlar habitats to the moon, but my point still stands, they used a one-way rocket. In your quest for "debunking", you need to be careful not to miss the point of the big picture.
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Cocky. You were the one who clearly showed a lack of launch vehicle specifics, and you are telling me to "be careful"? I think it is you who needs to be careful...for example:

Have you ever heard of a SeaLaunch mission in the news? Do you really think the DOD would spend nearly a billion 1998 dollars to build a mobile rocket launcher and not use it?
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1) I live in Huntington Beach (right near the Long Beach home of SeaLaunch) and used to work for Boeing. So yes, I have heard about them...and I know them much better than you do.
2) DOD has never spent a single dime on SeaLaunch. And now I am going to ask you to back-up the falsehood you have stated above by proving DOD spent any money on it. Good luck with that.

They launched men to moon 40 yrs ago... don't you think technology has advanced a little to be able to land items on moon w/out intermediate stops?
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You know as much about rockets as you do about predicting earthquakes...and oh yes, I remember that story...one of the first you spun upon arriving here.

And NASA is a front. It is a public, entity. It is in the public eye. DOE projects are. NASA projects are. DOD projects are not. DIA projects are not. DOD and DIA spends more money each year on space programs than NASA does. But you've never heard of any of them... Do some research on that.
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You are telling me to "do research" when it is apparant you did not even bother to "do research" that there is not even a TITAN V launch vehicle. See, this is where your cockyness shows itself to be outright rudeness. I have often been told by my partner Mod (KerrTexas) that I am TOO NICE with idiots like you, and that if it were he, people spewing crap like you would be bounced immediately. Maybe I should take his advice to heart, eh paladius? Or maybe I will just let him respond to you? Or maybe I will do nothing but continue to point out how flimsy your "facts" are and how clueless you are about things you claim to be an expert on?

Furthermore, and more important, before you decided to play King and freeze the previous thread,
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Henceforth, you shall address me as "your highness"...

ps - I've always hated the star treck movies and tv shows. I have always had better things to do then play fantasy.
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I see. So playing conspiracy theory is more your bag then? Understood. Have fun with that.
RMT
 
Ok RMT, i think we are getting off track and I am not here to start petty fight on the internet. SO, if you live in Long Beach, then yes, you must have heard about SeaLaunch. But the majority of Americans have not.

In regards to DOD money spent at sealaunch, no I can not prove and nor would I if I could. That information is not public knowledge and i am not going to be a leak.
 
Hi Recall,

Interesting link....

Listening to A.J is starting to really make me paronoid and question everything...

Have we all been drugged deliberately since birth with vaccines flue jabs etc..?????

How much food and liquid /water that we absorb contains poisions... mercury etc..

Is this to give a big percentage of the masses early deaths from deceases..cancer etc...
instead of sending us all to war...?

Can one EVER let our Children be vacinated for anything... who can we really trust anymore...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvGLnL88HGY&amp;feature=channel_page
 
Ok RMT, i think we are getting off track and I am not here to start petty fight on the internet. SO, if you live in Long Beach, then yes, you must have heard about SeaLaunch.
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More than that. As I said, I used to work for Boeing. Furthermore, one of my best friends who I used to work with at Boeing left the Delta rocket program at Boeing, Huntington Beach to become the chief engineer at SeaLaunch several years ago. So I know the company very well. Better than you think you know it, that is for sure. That is why I am calling BS on your claims. It's not a "petty fight". You are simply incorrect.

In regards to DOD money spent at sealaunch, no I can not prove and nor would I if I could. That information is not public knowledge and i am not going to be a leak.
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The DoD has spent exactly zero dollars on SeaLaunch. In fact, DoD has not even contracted a single launch from them (why should they, when DoD completely funded the Atlas V and Delta IV rockets to ensure the DoD always had launch capability?). The large majority of launches by SeaLaunch have been commercial communications satellites (e.g. EchoStar, XM satellite radio, DirecTV, just to name the most famous users from the US markets).

So, there is nothing to leak.
RMT
 
very good then RMT, you know it all better than me and your friend must have all the information too, being that he was the chief there. And I can assume you are such good friends with him that he certainly would've told you about the classified launches, because you used to work at Boeing, so you're entitled. I must be getting my information wrong. My appologies, Sir.
 
And I can assume you are such good friends with him that he certainly would've told you about the classified launches, because you used to work at Boeing, so you're entitled.
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It is even much simpler than that. He doesn't have to tell me anything. His Boeing badge tells me all I need to know. If there were classified launches going on, as you suggest, then the Chief Engineer would have to possess a security clearance of (most likely) Secret or better. I can look at any Boeing badge and determine the level of security clearance they possess. Since he joined SeaLaunch in 1999, he has an unclassified badge that shows no DoD clearance.

Like I said...simple.
RMT
 
I already said you are right.

just out of curiosity though, how many launchpads do you think were made? I know how many the engineering company did construction administration on. That is all I will say on the subject. I'd be happy debate another topic..such as earthquake prediction.
 
Re: David Icke

Here is the Alex Jones conundrum. ... He preaches that a world government is taken over and that flu vaccines are really a mind controlling debilitating injection, food supplies are tainted by secret governments, and populations will fall for the benefit of a few. He tells of military control of citizens, FEMA concentration camps, and civil war. So here is the conundrum... he has many followers and what better way to tag anti government individuals and groups than to track the viewer-ship of their leader? No doubt DHS has a list of IPs that visit the alex jones website. It is reconnaissance under the patriot act.

So, is AJ a benefit to the individual or the government? That is the question.

David Icke, seems to be on the mark with the fall of the dollar, but alot of people see that coming. Buy gold, silver.
 
Re: David Icke

That is a fair point that Goverment could follow up on IP addresses..
its quite terrifying if you think along those lines... but do we just ignore it and bury our heads or try and take notice..... I am sure this is similar to what the Nazis would do..

There may be no doubt if the powers that be want to , they could do away with the likes of him and David Icke and I have questioned that myself...many times...

and at the same time yes they could well offer an advantage to the goverment... in fact for all we know A.J could be working for them.. acting as our savior...that makes one even more paronoid..of what do you believe...I have questioned that also..

I surpose the question is would we rather not see what hes saying and Not log onto his site or accept what comes along... or one would have to log on at a Internet cafe...

The thing is this could all happen very soon...like during when Hitler went about his business.

I just recieved an new passport that was hand delivered....and I could not believe or was not aware of what It now contains....A micro chip... that I assume can tell where you are on the planet...even though they may say
it only works in airports..


this is a terrifying thought that they could use the Flu vaccination excuse to ensure we wear RFID bracelets..

if you decide to log in... see....

http://www.davidicke.com/index.php/

R.F.I.D Bracelet Once You Have Had the Swine Flu Vaccination?
 
just out of curiosity though, how many launchpads do you think were made? I know how many the engineering company did construction administration on. That is all I will say on the subject.
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Do you really mean "made" or "refurbished"? Because the Odyssey was not a special-made launch platform. Rather, it was a refurbished oil drilling platform originally made in Japan. The Finnish Kvaerner Vyborg shipyard did the launch equipment installation to meet engineering specs developed by their parent Norwegian company which is now called Aker Solutions. So in that sense, there was only one platform that was refurbished. In the sense of how many original oil platforms were made by Sumitomo Heavy Industries of the same type as Odyssey, I do not know. But rarely are those things one-off designs. Customized, yes, but based on a common oil platform foundational design.

So what engineering company are you referring to? Aker Solutions?
RMT
 
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