blix1ms0ns
Temporal Novice
Why do you have trouble replying to some of the private message I sent you?
You messaged me about my time machine, and then tried to steal (something? Tachyons from this board??) from me and failed according to the notifications I got. I just hadn't felt like replying after that.Why do you have trouble replying to some of the private message I sent you?
Greetings,Hello _Oz!
If this timeline doesn't matter because these conversations will be irrelevant in 8 years , then why wont you send evidence? Have you sent any photos? Also, what type of time travel do you claim to be using? What year are you theoretically from? (I've probably missed this) Do you believe in fate? One last thing, is Robert Malett someone you know? (not personally).
PS: How is a random person allowed to time travel? The only reasons I could see are A: Time Machines or Devices or whatever they are called are common, B: You are illegally here, Or C: You are allowed to be here (with some restriction) The reason I think this is because if anyone came here, all sorts of paradoxes are destined to arise.
How did vesselshare get the growing equipment back in time?Greetings,
Even if it's just a game, no good or great chess player should ever telegraph their moves in advance unless it was intentional. Time Travel (which I use that term loosely) becomes more common the farther into the future you go. I don't mind sharing more details, but I also wouldn't want to get into the nitty gritty for the same reasons. In an exponentially divergent multiverse only a couple clicks away, the common associations of time travel is literally a tourist attraction. The way this is accomplished with minimal divergence, is through a nifty service called VesselShare
VesselShare brands themselves as service used to visit periods or places in time of significance. The elevator pitch is that you can send your conscious mind back in time to one of VS's home grown vessels--which enables you to experience the events of that era, while at the same time minimizing divergence. It was found to be significantly easier to send a consciousness backwards (primarily using advanced waves) AND less risky--since the death of the vessel means the trip ends early & your mind goes back to its proper time. As it happens, the death of a vessel is also a flexible point (not quite a fixed event, but guaranteed to occur) which means visitations between fixed points will have almost no impact on the worldline at large.
While they SAY there is minimal divergence, I would argue otherwise. In fact, I've been riding in one of their vessels since 1989. Some fixed events remain the same as I remember them from history, while others (like Trump being President) are totally uncalculated for. Hopefully you're not uncomfortable with paradoxes, because they're super common. Most of them go completely unnoticed, which only occasionally causes some people to recall events with different accounts. It's usually chalked up to shoddy memory or the Mandela effect.
Anyways, this timeline is a major mess & I originally only came back to this era to grow into an old man out in the mountains in peace. Over time the divergence became more and more noticeable, until 2016....at that point I stopped being just a passive observer & started to pay more attention. By 2018 I realized I probably was going to need to do something, and this year I've been more brazen than ever. I still don't think it'll matter much within 8-10 years, but I'm also not trying to hasten things any faster than they seem to be.
-Oz
I mentioned to Paula that I'm very much not familiar with the intricates of how VS is able to do what they've been doing. From what I do know, some time (many many years) after traveling became more common, a corporation saw fit to "grow" bodies at specific periods / places in time. The vessel is able to be used by any number of travelers until it expires. Planting "seeds" (the term for a vessel that is not yet ready for transference) is not very difficult. The challenge is not injecting something back in time, since there's hundreds or more functioning machines hidden across the planet all the time. The challenge is the transference of consciousness, which also requires phlashing / preparing the vessel in between uses.How did vesselshare get the growing equipment back in time?
No worries! There ARE laws, regulations, and rules of thumbs....but they're more like guidelines than actual rules. There's more than a few laws & regulations I've broken, and I'm certain that I'll probably get at least a slap on the hand in the future....but the consequences that people talk about, usually arise from their own actions. I've come to accept divergence as a part of life, which is why I don't stress much about things.@_Oz I still need to collect all these questions I ask you for that project I mentioned. lol. How is posting on a forum allowed? Why wouldn't a time traveler be 100% private unless their goal is to make a change in the time line? Any tiny interaction can change things drastically.
that said - what change brings about the greatest potential for an individuals foot print on their and others timelines?“Time travel” sounds like a lot of fun for people, until they’ve experienced serious deviations or loss. We are in an unfortunate deviation currently, and it takes a lot of work to rectify if at all. My squad of 7 had become separated, and forgot how to find each other again. Low tech is always best.
If I could go further and impart a little knowledge to someone—I would have them understand that grandiose ambitions lead only to tragedy, and that it’s never too late to change for the better.
-Oz
Ok, but is it fair for you to change another person's time line, or does the divergence only apply to your own consciousness?No worries! There ARE laws, regulations, and rules of thumbs....but they're more like guidelines than actual rules. There's more than a few laws & regulations I've broken, and I'm certain that I'll probably get at least a slap on the hand in the future....but the consequences that people talk about, usually arise from their own actions. I've come to accept divergence as a part of life, which is why I don't stress much about things.
-Oz
'Calc]Unless you have "Reading Steiner" Jokes aside said:Somebody posted this about Future Trunks the other day:
Everything went bad when Trunks went back in time.
Had he not done so Goku would have died. Yeah the Androids would have killed everyone.
No Cell. He came from the future after Trunks destroyed the androids after...going back in time.
No Majin Buu. He was not awakened in Trunks timeline.
No Beerus because there is no Super Saiyan God to challenge him.
No Zamasu. If Goku was dead, he would have never fought him and pissed him off.
No Universal Survival tournament because Goku was dead.
Frieza would still be alive tho. Earth would have been destroyed because Goku was on Yardrat or maybe Vegeta would have been a Super Saiyan by then and killed him and King Cold.
But I digress, EVERYTHING is Trunks fault
I replied with my own thoughts:
By that same logic, if Trunks doesn't go back in time, he's never born because Frieza would of destroyed Earth, killing Bulma. Bulma would of never met Vegeta, and they wouldn't of had Trunks.
Trunks has to go back in time, or he ceases to exist.
Timelines are complicated XD
Go back, and save the Earth, but cause every event that follows (Good and Bad) - Or Don't go back and cease to exist.
Tough choice XD
'_Oz]It's because divergence is an inherent byproduct of traveling. No matter how small the changes or duration of a stay said:I see, so.. i'm thinking like Steins;Gate with this one tbh, but it seems even going back and reversing any changes you make wouldn't completely push the world line to 0 divergence. (and i wasn't meaning full corporeal travel, more messages from the future like in Steins;Gate when they sent just the numbers back.
As for AI.. i completely agree with your moral view on it, i feel though, it would have to be raised right, to value life... I can see it being abused, even if it has free will of its own.
It gives me hope, but it scares the shit out of me to think what could go wrong - the last thing we want is for it to harvest human bodies for its own uses...