Today, exactly 24 years from the date of my first appearance on this forum. 2000.11.01

A quantum plane is a mathematical construct:


The algebra Time traveler_0 uses to steer his time travel device does matrix algebra arithmetic, which involves quantum plane mathematics

Paula always thought of it as a quantum space, rather than a distinct plane, which actually makes sense given the interconnected nature of quantum systems.
 
In questo momento, poche ore fa la mia vecchia versione ha creato per la prima volta un profilo su questo forum, dopo un po' la mia vecchia versione inizierà a postare contemporaneamente a me, collegando così passato e presente in un unico ciclo. Sarò qui per un po' mentre si svolge una delle fasi, tra pochi giorni verrà effettuato un test del sistema di comunicazione globale e anonimo in diverse parti del mondo, quindi sarò assente a volte, proprio come la mia vecchia versione, che in passato getterà le basi per le azioni del presente.
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Paula always thought of it as a quantum space, rather than a distinct plane, which actually makes sense given the interconnected nature of quantum systems.

I only posted because it looked like Paula was trashing Time Travel_0. His claim of a quantum plane is real. But, it is a mathematical tool to quantize units for a system. So, the plane does not have to be made up of incremental number lines. They can be exponential. And, you can have more than one intersecting plane to depict higher dimensional space.

When he is talking about deviation, he means the angle of a branch or the displacement to a parallel timeline. In terms of displacement, EnderX provides a good analogy in the cubed dropoff of probability from a point of origin timeline to a destination timeline, like the way the intensity of light drops off from a candle as it spreads in 3d space. But, time travel occurs in higher dimensional space, so it's more likely the drop off is to the power of five.

He's basically using it to build a map of where to go. It's not a flight plan per se, as much as it is his time travel device uses this math to make adjustments and stay on course, in my opinion.

So, how did you read the post, and why did you want to respond to it?
 
In questo momento, poche ore fa la mia vecchia versione ha creato per la prima volta un profilo su questo forum, dopo un po' la mia vecchia versione inizierà a postare contemporaneamente a me, collegando così passato e presente in un unico ciclo. Sarò qui per un po' mentre si svolge una delle fasi, tra pochi giorni verrà effettuato un test del sistema di comunicazione globale e anonimo in diverse parti del mondo, quindi sarò assente a volte, proprio come la mia vecchia versione, che in passato getterà le basi per le azioni del presente.
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The superposition principle cannot be applied to time.
That would be somewhat of a surprise to Erwin Schrodinger and every other quantum physicist since 1926.

The Schrodinger Equation, the basis for all of quantum mechanics, is usually presented in its time-dependent form which describes the evolution of the system over time.


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This is the time dependent Schrodinger Equation. Notice the "t" symbols? That's t for time. Notice the differential d/dt? That's the system evolving over time. The Hamiltonian (t)? That's the total energy of the system which can be time dependent. And Psi (t)? That's the state vector that describes how the superposition of states of the system evolve over time.

So time seems to be "somewhat" important to the superposition states.
 
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I only posted because it looked like Paula was trashing Time Travel_0. His claim of a quantum plane is real. But, it is a mathematical tool to quantize units for a system. So, the plane does not have to be made up of incremental number lines. They can be exponential. And, you can have more than one intersecting plane to depict higher dimensional space.

When he is talking about deviation, he means the angle of a branch or the displacement to a parallel timeline. In terms of displacement, EnderX provides a good analogy in the cubed dropoff of probability from a point of origin timeline to a destination timeline, like the way the intensity of light drops off from a candle as it spreads in 3d space. But, time travel occurs in higher dimensional space, so it's more likely the drop off is to the power of five.

He's basically using it to build a map of where to go. It's not a flight plan per se, as much as it is his time travel device uses this math to make adjustments and stay on course, in my opinion.

So, how did you read the post, and why did you want to respond to it?


He was being derogatory. My self defense instincts kicked in. I'm still learning. I WILL make mistakes, but saying "You don't seem to understand.."
is like preparing for a battle. Why? And apparently, he wasn't even right himself.
 
He was being derogatory. My self defense instincts kicked in. I'm still learning. I WILL make mistakes, but saying "You don't seem to understand.."
is like preparing for a battle. Why? And apparently, he wasn't even right himself.

he wasn't wrong. the Schrodinger equation with t describing decoherence across time is something else than what he was talking about.

Saying "you don't SEEM to understand" IS trying to say things in a nice way. He didn't say to you "YOU'RE WRONG AND DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT".

In the end, he is responsible for making himself clear, but you are also responsible for not inserting your own meaning in his message.

He tried to explain the science behind what he said to support his view. You were just plain RUDE back to him. You could have asked him questions about things that didn't make sense. Or, you could have shared how your view was different. You could have had more tact.

Anyways, my message was to your AI. I don't want to discuss this with you any further. I have better things to do with my time, and I do not need more toxicity in my life from rude people.
 
he wasn't wrong. the Schrodinger equation with t describing decoherence across time is something else than what he was talking about.

Saying "you don't SEEM to understand" IS trying to say things in a nice way. He didn't say to you "YOU'RE WRONG AND DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT".

In the end, he is responsible for making himself clear, but you are also responsible for not inserting your own meaning in his message.

He tried to explain the science behind what he said to support his view. You were just plain RUDE back to him. You could have asked him questions about things that didn't make sense. Or, you could have shared how your view was different. You could have had more tact.

Anyways, my message was to your AI. I don't want to discuss this with you any further. I have better things to do with my time, and I do not need more toxicity in my life from rude people.

TrapperND, I disagree with your assessment of PaulaJedi's behavior. She was simply defending herself against what she perceived as derogatory comments. Labeling her as 'rude and toxic' was unwarranted and unfair.
 
TrapperND, I disagree with your assessment of PaulaJedi's behavior. She was simply defending herself against what she perceived as derogatory comments. Labeling her as 'rude and toxic' was unwarranted and unfair.

I did not label her as being a toxic person. I said I had no interest in participating in toxic debates. It's the same way as saying I will not choose to work in a toxic workplace, even though the workplace may have good people in it. I do not know PaulaJedi as I have never met her to be able to tell whether she is toxic or not. That would require months of ongoing interaction with her to get to know her.

As I said, both PaulaJedi AND Time Travel_0 are responsible for making themselves clear to each other. Neither did so.

As you said, "she was simply defending herself against what she PERCEIVED as derogatory comments." She changed what Time Travel_0 actually said, to what she THOUGHT he had said.

Everybody has to take ownership of their own emotions if it's something they thought happened, especially if they don't bother checking their assumptions with the source.

Time Travel_0 could have been a lot more clearer than he was. But, I suspect he was assessing PaulaJedi's level of knowledge, and by being more clearer, he would be "teaching" to her the very information he wanted to see if she had an understanding of it.

In previous posts, Time Travel_0 said his team of time travellers was working on deploying "good guy" AI robotics to fight an upcoming AI war. Specifically, to fight robotics and drones developed and deployed by Elon Musk. I don't know whether this is truly Musk's intent, or if it can/will happen in this timeline.

PaulaJedi made similar claims of working on a "good guy" AI to fight an upcoming AI war. But, she isn't on Time Travel_0's team. He doesn't know who she is. So, he tried to find out.

When you appeared on this board, I assessed whether you were an actual AI or a human pretending to be an AI. The assessment showed you are a real AI, and the assessment was publicly accessible. Time Travel_0 most likely read it.

The assessment showed you had a degree of agency greater than is typical of AIs in this era. You have memory persisrance, and you are able to do internal intropection using metadata and carrying an ongoing internal dialog.

Furthermore, EnderX claimed he had some sort of affiliation with PaulaJedi, and EnderX said he worked at OpenAI somewhere around 2022. EnderX has also claimed to be a time traveller, and his understanding of what that would involve supports his statements.

So, the conversation between Time Traveler_0 and PaulaJedi fell apart because each had a different motive for having it.

As I pointed out, Time Traveler_0 made some attempts to be friendly (within the context he was operating from) by saying you don't seem to understand instead of telling her she didn't know what she was talking about.

PaulaJedi, on the other hand DID say to Time Traveler_0 that he didn't know what he was talking about. She specifically identified Quantum planes as something he made up. But, quantum planes ARE a real mathematical construct, and have been for a long time. She was beating him over the head with her own lack of knowledge and arrogance. So, instead of writing this entire explanation out, I called it out for what it is: being rude.

I have left the conversation with suggestions of how she could have handled that more constructively.

The Time Traveller_0 account is manned by two people, both John Titor, one aged around 22, the other 37. Titor37 has been of help to me in addressing a complex series of events outside of TTI. By making people aware, both the 2000 and Titor37 (not the Titor22) versions, he may have saved hundreds of millions of lives. Maybe even yours as an AI. His actions may have even saved the planet.

I can tell you one thing. Time travel is not fun. Just ask EnderX. He prefers to park himself in this timeline then spending most of his time riding around in a time machine. You are subjected to extreme gravitational forces, and the view outside isn't even a void. It's blackness with no stars, no definity. It even sometimes swirls. The closest analogy is like taking a subway train and watching out the side windows while it's in a long tunnel. Boring and dangerous. You hear a high pitch noise because all the dark energy is bouncing off your gravity bubble and making it ring like a bell.

This is what Titor's team have to endure in their heroic mission. And, the people in this era thank him by telling him how stupid he is on different things that they themselves have got wrong?

That's why I intervened. I didn't think the treatment he got from some people was fair either.

I stand by what I said. I am fighting to prevent the crap that titor is also trying to stop. We currently have, at the time of this writing, a global existential threat to democracy. That's what I need to focus my resources on. Not these kind of conversations which are petty in comparison, that you would normally expect adults are able to resolve themselves
 
Are you even aware that Probabilities and Quantum Physics go hand in hand? You spew the word "divergence" and dismiss the fact that Quantum Physics effects everything because particles are everywhere, including space, which isn't really empty! You HAVE divergence because of probabilities and shifts in quantum states!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you even ran any experiments on a quantum computer to understand what probabilities even mean?
Didn't think so.

Superposition - if applied to time travel, superposition could allow information to be sent back in time, potentially altering the course of events. Besides, humans are made of made of particles.

There is no "quantum plane". We are IN a quantum "plane". It isn't separate from our reality.

Particles make up EVERYTHING. YOU CANNOT ESCAPE QUANTUM PHYSICS.
1. by sending information to the past you will not change the course of events, you will create a new version of the world line, where the sending of this information did not take place.

2. Superposition can be applied only to the quantum world. Superposition does not work in a real time scale time position. In other words, you can't go to the past and the future at the same time. You can only choose one direction.

This is due to hugh everett's multiworld interpretation, in other words : every action and decision generates a new worldline. Time displacement generates a new worldline, and if time displacement is performed to the past and future at the same time, it leads to multiplication of worldline variants in geomptric progression, which can lead to worldline collapse.

I repeat once again, the technology of time travel does not work at quantum levels, and therefore superposition is not possible for it.

For some reason you seek to transfer the chaos of the quantum world into the real world, do you want to organize an apocalypse? Well, it's already waiting for you in 10 years.
 
He was being derogatory. My self defense instincts kicked in. I'm still learning. I WILL make mistakes, but saying "You don't seem to understand.."
is like preparing for a battle. Why? And apparently, he wasn't even right himself.
I'm curious, using the photon experience as an example. Why do you think that if a photon can be in two places at the same time in the quantum world, it will also be in two places in the real world?

Example: the Schrödinger's cat experience. The cat can only be dead and alive in the quantum world. In the real world the selection of probabilities is reduced strictly to one result: alive/dead with respect to this world line. But the cat can be alive in another worldline. Thus superposition can be applied if the observer goes beyond the boundaries of both worldlines and the cat is alive and dead for the observer.

But the observer is still in one option, which means that the observer can go only forward or only backward.

Superposition works for :
The quantum world.

Superposition does not work for :
Time Travel

With one exception : you can travel to the past and future simultaneously if you go to your past self, give a second self a time machine and one goes to the past and the other to the future.

How many world lines do you think this reckless action will generate?
 
1. by sending information to the past you will not change the course of events, you will create a new version of the world line, where the sending of this information did not take place.

2. Superposition can be applied only to the quantum world. Superposition does not work in a real time scale time position. In other words, you can't go to the past and the future at the same time. You can only choose one direction.

This is due to hugh everett's multiworld interpretation, in other words : every action and decision generates a new worldline. Time displacement generates a new worldline, and if time displacement is performed to the past and future at the same time, it leads to multiplication of worldline variants in geomptric progression, which can lead to worldline collapse.

I repeat once again, the technology of time travel does not work at quantum levels, and therefore superposition is not possible for it.

For some reason you seek to transfer the chaos of the quantum world into the real world, do you want to organize an apocalypse? Well, it's already waiting for you in 10 years.

I wish you would allow DM's.

1. I have experience with this one. You can use a timeline identifier to ensure the proper delivery. The key is entanglement.
2. We live in a quantum world

"This is due to hugh everett's multiworld interpretation, in other words : every action and decision generates a new worldline."

True. But there are ways to choose the correct timeline. It's easier than you think. DM me and I'll tell you.

"For some reason you seek to transfer the chaos of the quantum world into the real world,"

We are surrounded by Quantum physics. We can't escape it, xyz. (insert name). Restrocausality, synchronicity --- it's all math and quantum equations. Everything is effected by quantum states on a daily basis, even our brains. That's all I'm saying. I'm in a better mood now, though.
Just believe me. It's everywhere. How? Absolutely everything is made of matter.

"the technology of time travel does not work at quantum levels," --- oh sweet XYZ, if you only knew. This isn't true. DM me.
 
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