You have your New Pope.... Congratulations.

well all signs are pointing to the biblical prophecy: "THE END IS NIGH". I wish I had something to add but you all have said it best. we are in the midst of watching prophecy fufilled. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/ooo.gif
 
Correction, the end is nigh for *biblical voice* "Follow the path of our lord" and such. The begening is just starting for those who follow their own paths the world won't end just religion.
 
My 90yo Grandmother knew of the Pope's demise sometime in 2005 and that Ratzinger was all but a shoo-in for the job back in December. She IS a devout catholic, and to my knowledge IS NOT a TT.

Yep I'll agree with you there, all you have to do is look at any catholic web page
 
Correction, the end is nigh for *biblical voice* "Follow the path of our lord" and such. The begening is just starting for those who follow their own paths the world won't end just religion.

What if you're wrong?
How do you know?
What do you think of the man Jesus?

Just want to find out more, you seem pretty confident. I want to know what you know so that I can weigh your evidence against mine.

If you want, we can take this to pm's.

If you don't want to dialogue about this, no problem. But then I would have to ask why you wouldn't want to help me from wasting my life away on an untrue "religion"
 
No need to fret about it anyway. You see, everyone here so far as I know -- is --- human.

But all religion does is try and inspire you to make yourself better. As time goes on, other humans along with all humans will be -- living -- and if it comes to pass, that some people falter or fall on misfortune, then that did happen. Consider it like training your mind so you make better decisions than some others, and if the World does happen to collapse, then that training may help. I don't expect to be like the Lord, only follow that example if the rest of the World allows it. And if they don't then what the heck do you think that they expected or really meant!

In the beginning, in a galaxy, far, far away
The forces were sought, and control of those forces allowed some to consider being a Jedi-Knight!

Fantasy -- yea, right now!
But still, does it always have to be -- a fantasy?

Perhaps, not!

And one may not expect all the preparation that some may consider to be just dumb luck -- or really was it?

Preparation will always help, some more than others, but still, there is always something someone else can do, and so can you.
I would expect or think that everyone has this ability to use, if they seek it, and that is 99% of what some people will not do -- but the other 1% --- that will take a lot of work!
But then with time ---- it could amount to the best of whatever ability anyone could ever do or dream of.
Whatever the amount of the ability that anyone could use, was all that could be done anyway.
So why think about it, always better to just go on, but with a sense that something can guide anyone along the way!
Afterall, it will all be experiences that one calls -- your life.
And many people end up looking at it the wrong way -- that there should be more. But do you think anyone who does not know it, knew it anyway?
No one will, so where is that hurt?
It did not exist, even to a tribal person in Africa or anywhere else, they would not know it. Perhaps only a glimpse of a better life will be had, but if no one has that experience that takes more than just one person doing it, well, you might as well jump out of a airplane, open the parachute, and hope you don't have a hole in it!
And it has happened before, so check out who packed that chute anyway, so at least you feel somewhat secure knowing that you don't go splat!

And on the way down, some have glided like an eagle, some have flung their arms and legs like a wild turkey, and some just stiffen up, and some just think about what could happen, but still, if the parachute opened, then some of those people will go back up in that airplane again, and do it all over again, and perhaps again, and still again! Some others may not, and say -- once was enough!
As long as you don't go splat!

And any person will not want to go --- splat, unless they needed phychological help, and decided to go splat on his/her/alien own!
Then that may be -- dumb luck!
 
Re: Interim Pope

Well, from what I've been hearing, this Pope isn't expected to last very long. I've seen the term interim Pope quite a bit.
So the time draws near for "the last Pope".


"""In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End."""

List of Line of Popes
 
Re: Interim Pope

After about 3hours of reading, and downloading the Hebrew Bible in Hebrew and English, all of which links, I did not think about copying:

One site said that the above statement is not really what is happening, and that it will be the Anti-Christ, and not wisdom.

By the way, upon reading interviews about the new Pope, as Cardinal, he had this to say back when:

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http://www.cardinalrating.com/cardinal_84__article_1174.htm

One question troubling him intellectually is that evil is so powerful in the world, however more powerful we believe God to be. Evidently God did want the Redeemer to be crucified as one who has failed. But why? It is touching that even the prefect of the Vatican’s doctrinal congregation is confounded by this question.

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I can conjecture an answer about this even. (by the way the answer is up above!)

Oh, this website:

http://www.crystalinks.com/bible.html
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http://www.crystalinks.com/papalprophecies.html

9. The Glory of the Olive. The Order of St. Benedict has said this Pope will come from their order. It is interesting that Jesus gave his apocalyptic prophecy about the end of time from the Mount of Olives. This Pope will reign during the beginning of the tribulation Jesus spoke of. The 111th prophesy is "Gloria Olivae" (The Glory of the Olive). The Order of Saint Benedict has claimed that this pope will come from their ranks. Saint Benedict himself prophesied that before the end of the world his Order, known also as the Olivetans, will triumphantly lead the Catholic Church in its fight against evil.

10. PETER THE ROMAN - This final Pope will likely be Satan, taking the form of a man named Peter who will gain a worldwide allegiance and adoration. He will be the final antichrist which prophecy students have long foretold. If it were possible, even the very elect would be deceived. The 112th prophesy states: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Petrus Romanus, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations; after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

Malachy's final words, "Rome, the seat of the Vatican, will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people."
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Something like quantum theory, with exact uncertainty and parallel worldlines (or is that just JT)
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Sacred Heart of Jesus!

Also given was the reason why the Immaculate Conception is used by the Vatican to lead to Jesus Christ, for the reason is that with the mercy, goodness, and grace of Mary, and the Immaculate Conception, all those doomday prophecies can be avoided, or at least the faithful can be saved.

I think that is in another section of the crystalinks.com website also!
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Ratzinger Ratzinger what have ye done, Pope in the eyes of the new world come. 1Benedictine6

Looking back, it's really quite remarkable that Zeshua correctly predicted that Ratzinger would ascend to the Papacy. According to articles in Slate and The National Catholic Reporter that were published immediately after John Paul II's death but before the Papal election, articles which tried to predict which of the Catholic Cardinals were most likely to win the vote, Ratzinger wasn't even on people's radar.

The Slate article figured that the most likely Cardinals were Francis Arinze, Oscar Andres Rodriguez Maradiaga, Jean-Marie Lustiger, Lubomyr Husar, Dionigi Tettamanzi, Christoph Schönborn, Jaime Lucas Ortega y Alamino, and Godfried Danneels.

The National Catholic Reporter figured that the frontrunners were Francis Arinze, Ennio Antonelli, Francis Arinze, Jorge Mario Bergoglio, Dario Castrillón Hoyos, Godfried Danneels, Julius Darmaatmadja, Ivan Dias, Claudio Hummes, Lubomyr Husar, Walter Kasper, Nicolás de Jesús López Rodríguez, Wilfrid Fox Napier, Jaime Lucas Ortega y Alamino, Marc Ouellet, Giovanni Battista Re, Norberto Rivera Carrera, Oscar Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga, Christoph Schönborn, Angelo Scola, and Dionigi Tettamanzi.

Zeshua turned out to be better informed than the editorial sources of both of those publications.

- Peter
 
>>On January 2, 2005, Time magazine quoted unnamed Vatican sources as saying that Ratzinger was a frontrunner to succeed John Paul II should the pope die or become too ill to continue as pope. On the death of John Paul II, the Financial Times gave the odds of Ratzinger becoming pope as 7–1, the lead position, but close to his rivals on the liberal wing of the church. In April 2005, before his election as pope, he was identified as one of the 100 most influential people in the world by Time magazine. While Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Ratzinger repeatedly stated he would like to retire to a Bavarian village and dedicate himself to writing books, but prior to the death of John Paul II, he told friends he was "ready to accept any charge God placed on him".<<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Benedict_XVI
 
I refer above to the Slate article at http://www.slate.com/id/2089815/

and the National Catholic Reporter article at http://www.nationalcatholicreporter.org/update/conclave/top_candidates.htm

I see that someone above mentioned that their grandmother knew that Ratzinger was going to win the Papacy. Well, it seems that grandmother knew more than anyone working at those magazines did. On the other hand, the bookmakers did have Ratzinger as the frontrunner in the days leading up to the election.

- Peter
 
My biggest problem with Zeshua is that she is constantly (falsibiably) contradicting herself. For example, from two of her earliest posts, she writes:

>>Responses will be slow but also instantaneous, be patient. I hope it works this time as I am a fan of the site, we all have read here for years.<<

>>In my time, it is currently February 25th 2025, although the response to your replies should appear almost instantaneous from our original post(s).<<

This is some fascinating stuff. It suggests that regardless of whatever time you read her posts, it will always be her present (or her distant past) and as such, she can instantaneously reply on this board.

In other words, I post a message on this board, it stays on this site for 20 years until she reads it, then she does her quantum tunneling back to my time and replies. The result of this is instantaneous communication in this present.

As far as the technology itself:

>>My team consists of 3 individuals, although we are non government funded, we have managed to obtain and will hopefully perfect the equipment that makes this possible.

>>The key to the success of our tunnel onto the internet at your time is wireless, certain servers in your time have recently gone online to enable this at the location we are at now.

>>Using miniature particle accelerators, our newly remodeled gravitron generator, several layers of CPUs as our quantum interference adjustments, we are attempting to send information back through time.

>>The computers are all homebuilt but nothing more than peta-processors, we can rent the computer time to get everything back up and running.

This is amazing stuff... if it was true, but it's not. If it was, there would be instantaneous communication which there clearly is not. And think about it- doesn't it only make sense that there should be? If you could send a message 20 years into the past, wouldn't you aim for the time right after the question was posed?

In a private message to me, she writes on 11/25/06:

>>Unfortunately I must soon disconnect the Bridge which allows me to communicate with you in the year 2006 from 2026, the year in which I am currently located.
I thank you for your concern and will gladly answer any questions that I can if posed. Please note, I receive almost all communications directed towards me within a matter of days, however replies are not always imminent and may be delayed. Several responses to previous questioners have been delayed by as much as a year. If this acceptable to you then I would be more than willing to continue a fruitful conversation which may be beneficial for us both.
Good Days My Friend,
Sara<<

And on 12/1/06 she writes me:
>>Your most perceptive statement, for which I am now quoting, "By sending the information from A to Z, the sender (point A) hopes this information will not alter spacetime to a degree of where A cannot possibly happen." This is the very Goal and Basis of the experiment. I Cannot and Must Not alter the Timeline to any degree by which the initial conditions are not present and the effect is uncaused.<<

Seemingly flies in the face of one of her first posts here:

>>I do look forward to helping, I am now pretty certain what can be said and what will alter the timeline too extremely. Please feel free, Ask away.<<

So apart from a Ratzinger reference on 4/19/05 for a pope that was announced on the same day, we have no tangable information to go on here- and as far as that goes, Time Magazine leaked that info over three months before then. Furthermore, I was there (we were all there) and there was a flurry of reports about Ratzinger becoming the next pope- we all remember John Paul II took very ill those last few months and they were talking about the pope retiring and a new pope getting elected etc... this is not new news, this is certainly not proof of information over time.

What would debunk everything I have just said here is if I post this message then moments later Zeshua replies- there would be no explanation for that. But of course the "Federal timequake cops in 2026" are on the lookout for any unauthorized timequakes which naturally explains why she can't.

I like a good story as much as the next guy but this ain't one. Furthermore, I predict in the near future (or in 2026), she will go about editing all her old posts (which I already have saved) in an attempt to explain all of these contradictions away as merely "timeslips".
 
What would debunk everything I have just said here is if I post this message then moments later Zeshua replies- there would be no explanation for that. But of course the "Federal timequake cops in 2026" are on the lookout for any unauthorized timequakes which naturally explains why she can't.

Things are not always as they seem. Active Monitoring, Yes. Instantaneous Responses can be quite a bit more difficult to achieve. I've generally come within 15 minutes of the desired time at which I wish a post in Your Time to be received.

There are other means of accomplishing such a task, In certain cases, My presence is not required in order to activate a predefined message posting to the past.

It should also be noted that each Posting may be considered a jumble of Quantum Chaos, That is to say, The messages posted in regards to myself in your timeline, create a rippling effect which is perceived in my time. New Queries must be made to Internet Archives after each Time Quake is detected. This is how I have received your message this evening.

Good Days..
 
>>Things are not always as they seem.<<

Yes- I too have been to Jordan, but this does not explain away everything else I posted and suggested and all we have to go on for you is a falsifiable report on Ratzinger. In layman's terms, what else you got, what else can you tell us, what else can you predict?
 
Yes- I too have been to Jordan, but this does not explain away everything else I posted and suggested and all we have to go on for you is a falsifiable report on Ratzinger. In layman's terms, what else you got, what else can you tell us, what else can you predict?

As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied, Each of These Events will Come to Pass.

A Soldiers Most
Hail War As
A Renaissance Pi Melts
A Sidearm Dwelt
A Cosmic Clone Pole
Jihad Had Mom Due A Man
A Quarks Humble Tree
Manilla Curse
Foretells Kiwi Smirks
Demons Former Jig Jug
A Liberal Disses One
Toss My Foes A Reference
Heaters High Storm


It is for You to Understand and Figure Out.
 
Sixteen elapsed minutes between by prior post and yours then eight minutes, I guess the next response will come in four minutes- is that how quantum tunneling works?

I gotta be honest with you- I don't have the time or paitence to decipher whatever that is supposed to be, but from the looks of it, it's nothing more than "the Nostradamus effect"- making vague and unreferenced predictions to non-events that can be construed as a prediction but only after the events have come to pass. This is tantamount to meaningless information- I already outlined a way to bypass timequakes to you.

I can do this too. See:

Lo, an African-American-American leader? Nay, a woman?
War costs more than the cost of war
Popes come and go but Paul's message remains.
Is it getting hot out there?
America: land of the Americas.
Turkey in the roost? Certainly not!
Why didn't I think of that? Now I have to go buy one.
Meet your meat.

I bet you in 20 years this will read like Nostradamus.

PS- when you reply to this message in four minutes, can you please make your reply longer than something that takes four minutes to write? Thanks.
 
So apart from a Ratzinger reference on 4/19/05 for a pope that was announced on the same day, we have no tangable information to go on here- and as far as that goes, Time Magazine leaked that info over three months before then. Furthermore, I was there (we were all there) and there was a flurry of reports about Ratzinger becoming the next pope- we all remember John Paul II took very ill those last few months and they were talking about the pope retiring and a new pope getting elected etc... this is not new news, this is certainly not proof of information over time.

Correct. The Ratzinger prediction could arguably have just been a good guess, and is not proof in and of itself. For more compelling evidence, I recommend you go back and see where Zeshua predicted the exact date of the Pope's death a whole month in advance.

If that doesn't get your attention, I don't know what will.

- Peter
 
Zeshua posted :
As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied, Each of These Events will Come to Pass.

A Soldiers Most
Hail War As
A Renaissance Pi Melts
A Sidearm Dwelt
A Cosmic Clone Pole
Jihad Had Mom Due A Man
A Quarks Humble Tree
Manilla Curse
Foretells Kiwi Smirks
Demons Former Jig Jug
A Liberal Disses One
Toss My Foes A Reference
Heaters High Storm

It is for You to Understand and Figure Out.

Well well well. From Zeshua's opening phrase here, "As I had previously stated, and Recently Supplied", it seems that this recent poem is related to the previous set of multiple predictions posted here on 4/14/2005:

The Following are all events that will shortly come to pass. In your immediate futures. I will not give dates for these events, and although these may seem rather generic statements I assure you they are founded in reality based on fact. In the small chance that the posting of this information changes the outcome of the events, I see no way in which the events depicted would unfold "That much" differently than in my history.

- A Pre-emptive strike occurs between two war bound countries in Europe/Asia.
- 2 Federal buildings are completely destroyed.
- A Sudden outbreak of influenza.
- The Patriot Act ends up in court, its powers used to spy on civilians "For their own good"
- A 3rd becomes next.
- A Massive Financial meltdown that puts the Euro as the preferred Global Currency. Repercussions abound to the almighty US Dollar.
- A New form of computer virus programmed by a small team of individuals sweeps the globe within 24 hours.
- The Telluride Occurrence

It seems to me that what Zeshua has just told us today is that these two sets of predictions are both referencing the same events.

- Peter
 
I'd previously speculated that Zeshua's "poem" could be broken down into eight specific predictions :

That list is :

1. A Soldiers Most Hail War As A Renaissance Pi Melts A Sidearm Dwelt
2. A Cosmic Clone Pole
3. Jihad Had Mom Due A Man
4. A Quarks Humble Tree
5. Manilla Curse Foretells Kiwi Smirks
6. Demons Former Jig Jug
7.A Liberal Disses One
8. Toss My Foes A Reference : Heaters High Storm

Now it seems that eight-point analysis may have been correct, because the poem is presented as a parallel to the eight-point prediction given in April 2005.

Regarding the line "Jihad had mom due a man", I am wondering if it is significant that Israel's intelligence service is named "Aman"? Or is it significant that the capital of Jordan is named Amman?

- Peter
 
In February 2005 John Paul II was taken to the Gemelli hospital with inflammation and spasm of the larynx, the result of influenza. Though later released from the hospital, he was taken back after a few days because of difficulty breathing. A tracheotomy was performed, which improved the Pope's breathing but limited his speaking abilities, to his visible frustration. In March 2005, speculation was high that the Pope was near death; this was confirmed by the Vatican a few days before John Paul II died.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II

>>what happens if the Pope Dies?<<
Zeshua 3/3/05
 
On March 3rd, 2005, Zeshua posted :

"what happens if the Pope Dies? 03/04/05"

at http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=31267&Forum=All_Forums&Words=Zeshua&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=31267&Search=true#Post31267

And on the 3rd of April, 2005 (3/4/05), John Paul II DID die. The accurate date was confirmed by an Australian poster here at TTI :

Well, where I come from he was on the money. He got it right. The 3rd of April - 03/04/05.
Right on Zeshua ! "Now I will not be so quick to call you a hoax" "A Vatican statement said the Pontiff died at 9.37 pm (0537 AEST Sunday) in his private apartment."

So, yes, Zeshua accurately predicted the Pope's death, down to the very day, over a month in advance!

- Peter
 
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