"Time Travel" impossible, no, and, but's, or if's about it

RE: Charm

well tta says the numbers are time travelers. How do we know its not us in the future. if they did come back to change things and they succeeded would that not erase their existance in the future. Maybe the men in black are that existance and they don't want to be erased. Would they not follow the time travelers to try to stop them just like in terminator. Maybe thats why they are keeping the alien thing under wraps .
clara
 
RE: Charm

Charm,
The Time Travel rule of thumb is this, “the ends justify the means” okay, that means by which ever means necessary we will be manipulated accordingly. But you forgot to bring up the fact you stated in a few posts back. How can they if they don’t know what we are thinking be able to control us? Then I said that’s right, they can’t. Unless we are “synchronized.”

I take it no body has the double-digit sensitivity that I do. I get visions before I get the numbers. Perhaps 80% of the times. Other times, I’m just like most of you who get them, just a feeling to look at the clock.

If a Time Traveler were to change the past, would we be completely unaware of the change?

Are we that primitive as to not have any insight subconsciously as to not know what is happening? To sense a change in environment and weather, are we that dull as to not notice the obvious?

The answer is, No! We aren’t dull at all; in fact we are incredibly sensitive humans. And it is that, which we use as our antenna to pick up on all the imbalances that go on. Including Temporal Manipulation.

When I see the double digits, I also see the change that took place. Not a Déjà vu, but a sense of what was to come. I guess you can call it a vision of the future, but it’s of what the future was altered to become. I hope I am making sense to you.

<<since you said that we are actors carried out to do a certain task. well then if this task is meant for us. fate has taken its role in our life. and time traveling? how can we do that when were merely actors doing our duty? double-digits? great plan?>>

Not necessarily, we are capable of altering our fates to some degree. But it would require a lot more noise and racket that I have been causing my self, to at the very least disturb the perfect harmony that the Time Travelers have established.

That is why I am attempting to educate others before it’s unanimous and to late for they’re to ever be any change. We must embrace our human independence, and never sell out. Doing so, will only increase the double digits manifestation and its strength to invoke its will upon us.

<<if this GOD is calling us to do a certain job. then who has the power to break his great plan? time travelers? no i doubt it because if someone decides to go back in time, the first date should be the first date of GOD existence.>>

The Time Travel Agenda is just that, Charm. The elaborate form of all that man is and was, was started and is being monitored by individuals who appointed them selves as Gods. There is no reason to go back before God ever existed, because that’s the whole point. I thought you been researching my past posts, or else you would know this? I make this very clear, that it is because of our lack of spiritual enlightenment that fuels our future selves to allow Time Travelers to alter the past in the first place. To gain something more meaningful then violence, land, money, sex, & politics can never fulfill.

However all being utilized to eventually achieve this end result. Ever present and knowing of the beginning and the end, regulating what needs to be done.

<<by the way lets break it down a bit. double digits. are numbers. us humans use numbers. we creat numbers. 123456789 and so on. how can you expect a number to be a destiny you are controlled by? tell me that? if you happen to see this in your visions or dreams or elsewhere? does it matter? i see numbers daily.>>

Yes, we created the numbers. They are man made. But we did not create the order of things in this universe. And the movements of atoms and particles. They are basic, and unchangeable. They are foundations in which we based numerical values to, to represent their existence to us in our 3rd dimensional frame of reference. They are thus real, and the formula we applied to them is real too, i.e. Numbers.

So how are we to not know, that if these basic non-made man structures cannot be exploited to see it’s secrets and use them, hold no significance or control to us?
We are made of everything that exists. And if our own creation of what we used to measure the activity of their condition or mood, tells us that it’s a double digit, what significance does it possess when it’s repetitive?

When we see them in perfect synchronization, spells it out for us. Is it not then obvious that it is control?

Or is it Coincidence?

Okay, but when does a coincidence, stop being a coincidence?

I’ll tell you when it stops being a coincidence. When millions of people sense them and are aware of something going on. Then it becomes and epidemic. What’s causing it? Why are so many being controlled?

To reach a common goal, and that is to be unified completely and eternally. Hence we come full circle, back to why Time Travel and Man is created in the first place. Or am I missing something?
Any questions?

-TTA
 
RE: Closerure on the Pleiadean Cosmonaut Semjase

Please be informed of the following that Cosmonaut Semjase, had never gotten over the loss of her husband. This was an accident, where his ship had malfunctioned and was pulled into a sun the Pleiadeans were exploring.

When she came here in 1975, she was disatvantaged and was not ready for duty, in the emotional sence as a Pleiadean Officer.Not fit for duty.

I feel that the upper Pleiadean heiarchy had set her up for this and she had walked into both an adjustment as well as a political and emotional storm.

Besides having her husband die in such a horrible weay, "which I have seen", she had to bear the fact that Earthlings were both hostile and unappriciative of her.

I wrote and wrote the Billy Meier group, in order to gain a place where her and I could sit togeather so that we could finish resyncing as fraternal twins.

This request had been ignored and the emotional damage still carries on.

Only by sitting next to each other, can our hormonal signitures, as we relate to one another as brother and sister fraternal tweins, would commence.

This is why she is emotionally unstable leading to pschosis, due to the view that Earthlings are dumb; so therefor an emotional distance as well as a physical one must be maintained at all times.

For this reason, as shown in the Meier films housed at the Universe People's web site, you see the Pleiadean holding the ray-run, is spastic and nonconformal to Earth's sociology.

This is a distance based within the context of denial, not of any device a supposedly stuipid, primative and illequipped Earthling, could ever inflict upon a ten thousand years in advacment Pleiadean.

Yes Semjase, my sister' you will not only never extinguish this bond with me, but your high technology over Earth is accompaied with a terrible terrible price.

In order to maintain this distance, the Pleiadean collective must stay isolatly insane.

Is it worth it?..Well is it babe?

Don't ever pander to me again as if we meet I will slap you.

You need this and it was never done.

With all your supposed advancement, didn't you ever develope at least one iota of compassion towards Earth based man?

Doesn't show in what you've posted, at least not towards me?

The only trait that shows, is your attempted dominance.

In this attempt, which is laffable by the Pleiadean heiarchy, there is a stranger.This is the sung note of self pity.

Your loving brother and twin, "yes that's part of you", Daniel
 
RE: Charm

“synchronized” that word makes my head hurt. just because saying that if someone controlled us. they would be inside us. when? only a few have felt this? i wonder why? not me? not the world as it is? for the whole world to feel this coincedence? i think people eventually die out one by one. so in that case. our children will be the next to feel this coincedence. and so on. this world doesnt have the capability to feel such a vision. its like saying the whole world is crazy.

let me get this straight here TTA. if you feel this 80% of the time. then everything or almost everything you do concerns the future or the past... how do you live apon? eh? just a weird question. by the way what is your vision? care to tell us what it is? yes i have render back to some old post but not all. of course i have a life of my own to catch on to. this vision you have. does it concerns the eye? what you see? that is my difinite question for you. does it concerns the eye?

well who said there was a GOD? what kind of GOD are we speaking of here? christian? oh wait. your speaking of a different religion? i wouldnt know would i. well if you said ago in your post. you meant that GOD was always here right? okie lets time travel in our head for a moment. i want to go back to the farthest time possible. set date: infinite to the past. whoa where are we? do we ever stop. since GOD is always here, we have to travel all the way back there? so there has to be a start. in order for things on this "time sphere" to connect and everything to attract to. i hope you got my point there.

okie double-digits again. numbers that represent categorizes on our life. yes that is right. but now numbers that represent time travelers? i never knew that the world created such a category. its like a in the future a teacher saying " okie class todays subject is time traveling numbers, if you see a double-digit giving you a vison then it might happen to be a time traveler inside of you" how freaky is that? i doubt it very much. and why does it have to be double-digits? why couldnt it be a painting, a pencil? why just plainly numbers? anything else can represent something right?

since you said it is “synchronized”. it automatically means that we arent in control of ourself at all times. errr that statment there is kinda pushy eh? so 80% of you isnt controlled by you? are you oke TTA? because thats what im getting in my head from you. i dont know my percentage, i wouldnt even bother trying to find out

"I take it no body has the double-digit sensitivity that I do. I get visions before I get the numbers. Perhaps 80% of the times. Other times, I’m just like most of you who get them, just a feeling to look at the clock." TTA

a feeling to look at a clock eh? TTA i am not trying to debate here but, its hard for me to actually a connection between a clock and you. what clock time clock? humans 24 hr schedule? i have feelings myself. i feel that in my heart ima die at around 25 is that a double-digit? well i wouldnt know would i? i just feel it, but that number has no connection to me. its a time like 25 years old in human terms. were all using human terms for everything, weighing, seeing, counting. all of that. why not try to see it logically. like for instance what we have is what we get. what we add on to is what we will get.

its like experimenting with a human brain, still capable to be active. the brain is in its regular form? well first off we dont know what a regular form is. it could be small particles long ago and became what it is today. so in other words. us humans have no say so to what we can do in "TIME". we are like a mold on a bread. we grow and spread in any direction we please but if we leave the bread our existence die. get it? thats like time traveling. okie if you guys are saying dimensions. then if we leave ours, we have no place on the other. this whole life is perfect. yes it is perfect. it is set to so many possiblities that can happen but if we add another possibility, like changing the past. uh uh. that just wont work.

the government hiding something from us Clara? naw... what are they hiding? black men? why not black women? a black dog? be specific. cuz i ask farely out of the subject questions. no i doubt that this number actually represent time travlers. it might involve that person coicedence to see it quite a while. its like saying "man every time i go to the store and pick up an apple i see this weird numbers thats always around me" or i can do the same thing "everythime i go outside the sign says such and such number" as a matter of fact its not a coincedence its just there and you happen to see it there. end of story. yes they might be hiding many things from us but... eventually it will leak out....

Charm
 
RE: Charm

I have only posted on this board a couple times. Rarely do I feel compelled to interact, although I do admittedly keep up with the posts. But something you said really caught my interest, Charm.

I hope you don't mind if I ask you a question.

Why do you ask him if he's had visions concerning the eye?
 
RE: Charm

Charm, you said:
<<let me get this straight here TTA. if you feel this 80% of the time. then everything or almost everything you do concerns the future or the past... how do you live apon? eh?>>

I believe you misunderstood what I said Charm. I said that 80% of the times when I get the double digits I get a vision. Not that I get it 80% of the time in whatever I do. Come on, be serious.

<<by the way what is your vision? care to tell us what it is? yes i have render back to some old post but not all. of course i have a life of my own to catch on to. this vision you have. does it concerns the eye? what you see? that is my difinite question for you. does it concerns the eye?>>

What is my vision?

What do you mean? If you mean what I foresee for this Nation, it doesn’t quite work that way with me. Well rarely.

My visions are of future events that pertain to my life and others close to me. You have to remember that visions are just glimpses, not full-length movies you can sit through and critique them later. No, you have to make do on what precious moments you have with them. Well I do anyways… Further more, that goes along more with New Age doctrines. Something I do not follow, other then what I just know about my own psychic sense, and abilities.

What about the eye? I don’t quite know what you’re talking about. Please be more specific.

<< well who said there was a GOD? what kind of GOD are we speaking of here? christian? oh wait. your speaking of a different religion? i wouldnt know would i. well if you said ago in your post. you meant that GOD was always here right? okie lets time travel in our head for a moment. i want to go back to the farthest time possible. set date: infinite to the past. whoa where are we? do we ever stop. since GOD is always here, we have to travel all the way back there? so there has to be a start. in order for things on this "time sphere" to connect and everything to attract to. i hope you got my point there.>>

Nope
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. I don’t think anyone did. But hey that’s okay.

I can see that I have perhaps over loaded your thinking, and are just throwing things together that make no sense, but to a 16 year old.

Everything you need to know is in the last post, just read it carefully this time. I rather not have to repeat my self tonight, I got other things pending.

<< so 80% of you isnt controlled by you? are you oke TTA? because thats what im getting in my head from you. i dont know my percentage, i wouldnt even bother trying to find out>>

So I was right, your thinking is overloading… You might want to quit sucking so hard on those 7-11 Slushies, it’s giving you head rushes.

Your just making things up as you go… Not 80% in control of my life, where did you get that. Misquoting me, and asking if I am okay. Please son, look at your misinterpretations first, before you speak something you will regret.

<<why not try to see it logically.>>

By all means, show the way.

<<no i doubt that this number actually represent time travlers. it might involve that person coicedence to see it quite a while.>>

One must experience it them selves to truly comprehend what control is.

And you must have it in the first place, to know you lost it.

Stick around; you may learn something. And perhaps mature at the same time.

-TTA
 
RE: DOUBLE DIGITS...

Hi Charm,

TTA, Clara, and Shadow are correct about the double digits because I too have them!

Infact I have had several lesson with them already.

And if you want your ultimate proof check out what TTA said about the double digits claiming the new first time people posting to the forum. You will begin to see a pattern.

There is no doubt in my mind that these numbers are some form of a universal mathematical communication system. And highly dimensional intelligence. They are not good in the respect that they are about deception and control! There is some form of physic telekinesis energy being exhibited and transmitted.

I think they are personal messages for each one of us and especially to those of us who take notice.

I have been recently reading up on the Clyde Lewis web site referred to by Clara on the double digit stories. These are true and strangely out of the ordinary circumstances of the occurrences of double digits.

What exactly is happening when we see the double digits is the question? This is even actually happening to people that don't even take notice of it. So its a common everyday occurrence. But it is even more strangely odd when it claims a disaster like September 11th or other days and events in history as I have pointed out in some of my past posts.

Jesus tells Judas, the rooster will crow three times before you betray me!


CAT...

P.S. Songod56 its good to know your still around and monitoring the post.
 
RE: DOUBLE DIGITS...

CAT, if its not any trouble could you give me this Clyde Lewis web site? i want to hear these stories or subject about "DOUBLE-DIGIT" or email it to me at [email protected] its ok if thats not possible. i understand very well what you guys are trying to tell me saying.

im not hard headed, i accept any possibility that comes. no, it has not happen to me. so i cant seem to grab all of your points. maybe im not a specific being here. that does not matter though. what i sense is what i sense. thats all i can really say. there are many things that we dont know or i dont know and will never know, but i dont mind understanding a few even if i disagree to it.

my point of view on this universe, this time, the life we live, isnt counted as a day, a month or an hour. everything there is, is like a piece of paper, this world, we just draw many things to this paper, and change its appereance. such as growing up and dying, its just changes we cant avoid. we live it over and over on this piece of paper. we draw what we want. but we cant draw outside of this paper. soon each of us will run out of "lead" and unable to draw anymore. new "lead" such as our children will draw again. keeping this continuis untill it has filled this paper with nothing but "lead". then our useless world will end unless we move on to another "paper"(planets).

this means our life isnt the only thing that draws on this paper. plants, insects, anything and everything, draws its own path. because without humans this earth will still survive maybe even longer. the cycle will continue. but were here like a plague, using up what is nessecary and carry on to our own pleasure. so realize that your thoughts and mind, does not matter. because you are not at the peak of civilization. only time.

time travel is the best subject to bring this out. because you are saying you can become this eraser and redo what you drew awhile ago. like an eraser. it removes a bit of lead from the sheet. but that line that was created will always be there. for the rest of time. also seeing visions before it happen is like saying, your the "person drawing".

you see the IMAGE before you place it down on paper. that IMAGE is in our thoughts, we randomly place any pictures we seen in our life that matches what we want to draw. this is connect to our visions that we see. we randomly place everything in our life together and make a little "scene" in our head. which we believe that it is a vision to what could happen. we do this to ourselves. were using what we have sensed and predict what we might see. and count on it to work.

so we try very hard to make this vision come out true. some times it happens to be what you see. because you are waiting and counting on it to happen. like a poor man. seeing all these rich peoples. he imagines himself being rich, he gave himself a vision he wants to grab. and he works hard for it. but it doesnt all work out for poor people with this vision they want.

if you say those vision doesnt concern you at all and it just happen to pop in your mind and you see what is in the future or past. i have something to say about that. it does not concern you? you see it because you want it to happen. its like having a vision of a man dies and you never knew him. you are connected. why? your mind randomly gather all the possibility and you chose for that certain event to happen. a face? a year? its all in your mind. we have this ability to Imagine things that are out of our grasp. now for that to happen is a coincedence. there are around 5 billion people in this world. if turn by turn everyone one makes a prediction. how many is likely to happen? a few? why because its random conicedence takes place.

its like saying i think "this chic is hot, i want to have sex" you can already imagine what its like, how it will feel, where it will take place. we do this to ourselves which makes us humans creative.

have you guys and girls ever see something and touch it? once you touch it you remember what it feels like. for as long as you can and then it disappears. example touch your screen. right now just for the hell of it. you feel the screen right? pull your hand away. now "imagine" you placed your hand on the screen again. you can actually feel it again without even touching it. thats how our visions work. right then your brain just grabbed anything that involves the screens surface and your hands and all of it to one little feeling. try it again. right now touch your screen. and pull away and imagine what it might feel like. once you feel the screen in your head again, the process is the same, your brain randomly grabs everything to do with this subject.

i am just saying this because for humans we can actaully feel something before it has ever even reached our brain. just pick anything out of the room your in. stare at it and you will see you can actually feel the objects very far away. just imagine your hands was on it. thats how visions work. we grab everything in our life and reorganize to what we expect it to be. we want the screen to feel this way because it is meant this way. get it? this does not involves our eyes either. try closing it... or your hand too... its all what we want to vision. well if you guys dont understand then i am a crazy ass guy end of story!

Charm
 
RE: DOUBLE DIGITS...

It is obvious that you are flying by the seat of your pants. It sounds like you are fairly young but that is to your credit rather than detriment. I have gleaned some of my most important knowledge from teenagers who are unfettered with adult complacency. Your idea of spheres which is also intuitive has a basis in reality. Recent discoveries of new forms of dark matter and energy imply that a black hole is not really a hole in space but an impenetrable sphere made up of some kind of matter that is possibly indestructible. They also theorize that our universe itself has as it’s outer boundary the same kind of impenetrable sphere. Recent experiments in particle physics have intimated the creation of atomic black holes that follow the same line of reasoning. If we use science alone to get beyond this conundrum, we are faced with relativity. If we use our subjective reality alone, it is not only relative to the observer—it approaches impossibility—which is your view. If we use religion alone, relativity does not enter into the equation because then we are using absolutism.with the concept of an absolute God totally wiping out this reality and making a new creation where relativity and subjective observer reality do not exist.since all space and all time are then accessible as it is to the concept of how religion sees God. When you take all three together—and this takes a leap of faith—then possibilities emerge which changes the world view. If you use only the first two, the possibilities are definitely limited by subjective and objective reality—this is Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle. Objectively look at a particle and you can project it’s course. Subjectively look at that particle and you can then locate it in space, but the process of looking at it affects it’s course and you can no longer predict where it will be in the next moment. This has become an absolute in physics. If you take the last two together you end up with a similar absolutism and thus no concrete answer to the paradoxes that time travel would produce. Let me give you one small example as to how to get beyond the paradox. Again, it takes a leap of faith.
In the Judeo/Christian tradition(which science gives a great deal of credit for it’s concept of a Grand Unified Theory), there is a concept of a High Priest tending to the Shekinah Glory(God). He wears a coat of blue. Strong’s concordance defines this coat as a covering or a lateral projection. Webster’s defines a projection as: a: a systematic presentation of intersecting coordinate lines on a flat surface upon which features from the curved surface of the earth or celestial sphere may be mapped. B. the process or technique of reproducing a spatial object upon a plane or curved surface by projecting. C. a transforming change. D. the act of throwing or shooting forward,--and there is more. Strong’s also adds that this coat is: a roaring through some obscure idea, perhaps that of peeling off by concussion of sound; a scale or shell. A shell is defined by Websters as “any of the spaces occupied by the orbits of a group of electrons of approximately equal energy surrounding the nucleus of an atom. There is much more but I’m limited by space. Thus, from the small example of blue coat(religion), our observation, and the science involved; we approach a much more balanced understanding of the possibilities. The complexities of the whole temple service are unimaginable but they are also can be comprehended. Try taking a leap. It may do you some good—both subjectively and objectively.
 
RE: DOUBLE DIGITS...

charm, I do not think you understand what we are saying. The double digets are always the same 22,33,55 etc. not doubles such as 25. I see triple digits 333,444,555. I have been waking up all week in the middle of the nite seeing them. Last nite it was 222. Haven't figured out what is up yet. If you tell people what is happening they never understand unless they are seeing them to. this can be very frustrating. At least I am lucky enough to have a spouse that sees them also. My daughter does to on occasion. One time I tried to tell my neighbor and I was eating a sandwich at the time and started coughing so bad I couldn't speak. I guess some people just aren't allowed to know. I do feel like I am a better person for having the experience. I watch now things that occur around me. it does allow me to make a better judgment about situations that are taking place. I have been watching the news and I have never in my life seen so much myhem. It is obvious to me that things are not normal. I do believe numbers helped me to make the choice not to be part of what is happening It doesn't seem like anything can be done about it the problem is to large so I moved to the moutains and do my gardening and let the world carry on. YOu may say I have given up as this is what tta believes but I don't see it that way I simply am using my free will to choose differently and the numbers gave me a little help. The hardest thing is to accept the fact that those people who you love may choose the negitive side that is thier choice and basically there is nothing you can do about it. You came into this world alone and your going out alone. If you fell peoples choices are making your life hell then get away from them and I don't care who they are mother father sister friend anybody with the exception of children. Children are bond to you until they are adults and it is your responsibility to take care of them no matter what.

I will say I do not fear the numbers but they can be a challenge. and basically I don't know who is sending them.
I will say that I to have had contact with the group the universe people have been in contact with. although I'm not sure if they are the ones sending the numbers. the problem is I have also been in contact with the big eyed aliens and find them just as challenging. it seems the universe people think the big eyed aliens are evil Ican't agree at this point . I do believe the Zeta's and the greys may be related but do not have the same agenda. who can know until we have phsical contact on a massive scale. for all we know they could all be lying. If its up there like it is down here we are in serious trouble..........clara
 
RE: DOUBLE DIGITS...

Charm,

I like your eraser pencil theory. The fact still remains that you can erase the lines but there is still some shadow markings of its presents being there at one time.

Sonofbabylon, you are wise beyond your years! You are correct in bringing up the Blue Coat and the layers of sounds. I'm sure that blew over everyones head.

Clara, Charm requested the web site on Clyde Lewis, but for some reason I can't locate the web address on my computer at work. Can you repost it?

Thanks,


CAT...
 
RE: DOUBLE DIGITS...

Clara Clara Clara

My heart really goes out to you. No one on this planet should have to deal with all these lying spirits. Don’t you realize that by even listening to these demons in the 5th dimension(where they want to take YOU), you are placing yourself and your family in the worst peril possible. Do you think there is any connection to the fact that they are prepared(with their spirit ufos) to take 1/3 of mankind to the 5th dimension, and the fact that 1/3 of the angels/demons were cast out of heaven? Retreating to a mountaintop is not going to help you get away from them! Obviously, you needed some kind of confirmation that the supernatural exists and sought out these spirits. The fact that you stated that you have been in contact with the Universe People “spirit guides” shows that this is intentional on your part. You are not alone in this respect. Thousands(if not millions) are falling into this trap. You are not stupid because I can see you speak with intelligence. Make the logical deductions. I played with supernatural forces while younger and quickly decided that this was NOT a good thing. I also make a deduction. If these evil forces exist, then the other good forces exist too. If so, then God is not a figment of someone’s imagination. If He is real, then His word has instruction on how to deal with these evil forces. Now it’s easy to believe in a God, but not so easy to believe in a Jesus, because then we would have to believe that something has to occur to reconcile us to HIS teachings. This involves having to deal with SELF. Most people would rather deal with evil spirits, or science, or timetravel, or pleasures of this world to satisfy the need to gratify SELF. These “spirit guides” only ask one thing of you. Just put aside all your preconceived ideas about religion, science, medicine, human anatomy, and anything else pertaining to the 4th dimension, and they will teach you the truth about their wonderful 5th dimension with the myriad of “world civilizations” ready to welcome you with their radiating love even though some of these “species” radiate mistrust of each other. The fact that they are revealing themselves now should be a wake up call. They are desperate and are laying all their cards on the table because soon, they will be cast into the LAKE OF FIRE. Look into the past and see where you get this predisposition to spiritualism. The sins of the fathers extend to the third and fourth generation. Are you extending this to your child? Are you preparing the ground for your child to have to struggle with these lying spirits? Take this warning seriously! It may be the last you ever get.
 
RE:Please excuse me, if you will...

I must ask your kindness Charm, could you please excuse me from this forum?

If not, then I must abdicate from this chain of your's and not post here any longer.

To CAT and Clara my friends.I will not be here a while and may or may not even return to About.com to post at all.

If there are any messages for me, then please take them.

I must advise you once more, I got four alarm bells concerning the Charm post and even CAT had said, that his post must be from one of the two heavens.

This might mean one is the classical out of matter heaven, so secular to Earth, the other would be Hell?

The die, "again I say", is not cast upon our situation.

Did you notice in the second block post that was supposedly posted by the being Semjase, that when I had ,entioned CAT's name, there was a green face by the name of CAT, half the way down in the body of the post.

Even if you have the right to edit here, I did not know that it was possable to post a face mid body of paragraph coppy.

I can not even do this, if I press the insert key and try to enter the face.

Semjase hovers over me like any sister does and I do think that possably this could have been her posting.

Intresting possability, is it not?

You are big boys and girls, if you want to post and discuss issues with a nonmortal, and all the dangers this might impose upon you, then be my guest?

I know when to bow out and this is precisley what I'm doing now.

p.s.Did that security serch you ran on me CAT, tell you all that you had wanted to know about me?

It didn't tell you how I feel about the old country.

Wow babe' there is a lot of old mystic hostility placed back there between them and myself and your serch surly won't show you this.

You neither Pamela.
 
RE:Please excuse me, if you will...

Charm,
Visions and random thoughts are 2 different things. Visions are circumstancetional that require concentration and focus, and very briefly at times emerge to show us what they are. Random thoughts are just whatever you’re thinking about, right now before you decided to put attention to what I am saying. Just because I can anticipate an end result with my own consciousness, that doesn’t make them a vision.

You need to experience how a vision comes about you. It’s unlike anything you have ever left. It’s a sudden glimpse, an uncontrollable alignment in your soul where your tuned to pick something up, that you know aren’t random thoughts. And I only get them at double digit intervals, why only then…? That is the question that I am trying to find an answer to.


sonofbabylon you said to Clara this:
<<You are not stupid because I can see you speak with intelligence.>>

That’s because of me… Well it wasn’t easy getting her to think about things in a way other then New Age. It took months of criticism, but it’s an improvement nonetheless. Keep it up Clara
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I’m proud of you.


Creedo299,
What’s a matter, don’t like someone other then you being the center of attention?

Jealous?

<<To CAT and Clara my friends>>

Haha
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Silly Rabbit. I don’t think they ever were your friends Creedo, actually I don’t think they even liked you, EVER!

<<Even if you have the right to edit here, I did not know that it was possable to post a face mid body of paragraph coppy. I can not even do this, if I press the insert key and try to enter the face.>>

You mean to say, that you find cut and paste mysteriously attuned to some demonic forces in Charms posts
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?

Please man
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, I told you about the bull.

<<I know when to bow out and this is precisley what I'm doing now.>>

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, and don’t forget to clean up all the shit you left lying around too, remember
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-TTA
 
RE:Please excuse me, if you will...

sonofbabylon has a point Clara. these spirits you have right now puts you and your family in danger. who will you believe? if these spirits told you your son/daughter will do a major damage to this earth and maybe destroy it. what will you say? better yet what will you do? as an example please take it to heart. it leaves youw ith only two choices and you know what these two i am speaking of. they are desperate or you are desperate. i dont believe in this vision or spirits. in my point of view, a person can put themselves up to a certain point where they believe themselves. like being so into a movie and actually feel your inside and the 1st person. i hope you take this one example even if it does not occur. think of the possibilities of you an your family.

CAT, dont take credit for helping Clara. if somethign ever happens. will you take credit for pushing her towards that direction? i just want for you to know what you say and do reacts to people as it may react to you.

these visions are controlled. i dont know how to break this down. but you seem to think that a vision happens out of the ordinary, it occurs to a point where you can just take a glimpse of what may happen. well CAT, please understand that you are in control, you might seem like you cant get out or wake up or move but just watch. you put yoruself in that state of mind. i think you believe that someone has jumped inside your head and you are viewing what he viewed before. i doubt that. not likely. and these double digits. come on, think again. numbers. that happens so many times. you see it over and over. what does that mean? nothing. it means nothing at all. its what you do when you see those numbers. well lets say Clara sees this number so many times. and these numbers tell her to do a certain "act" whether it invloves death or a crime or whatsoever. is that wrong? for her to jump to conclusion. its just a point where you have felt that these coincedence mean something. it means too much to you that you pay attention to your surrounding and then. you see it again. adding numbers together all of that. it makes no sense. i beleive you feel as if your "the one" that has a special power of seeing digits which you can help solve others lives or yourself. thats not insane its just you say you see these numbers again. why not write it all down. every single one of them you see. wether you are walking sleeping. first of dont pay attention to what you seen before like clara said. because she sees it so much that she avoids other numbers around. what if i threw a card on the table. which number will you idnetify first? you will definitly observe the one you are familiar with. thats whats wrong here CAT. you guys are familiar with what you see and you dont tell your mind not to look otherwise. ok i think im not making any sense to you....

TTA, i have read too many post lately. from jokes to time travel to visions to so many things but the part about religion is mind bothering. i dont believe that there is a GOD. doesnt make me a devil becuase i dont believe in that either. its just how people say it. "if you dont follow his path then you will die suffering"
well what about those childrens who cant see or hear and lives on machines? do they suffer? because they cant even hear or read to think of GOD? think about that.just because we dont follow a certain path makes us a bad person or a person that will suffer. thats just BS you know? oh wait, you might say that GOD gives these ungifted childrens a fair deal a side chance because something has happen to them. well what about us? were not perfect? do we got to suffer? thats why GOD has nothing to do with us. we cannot put religion in our life. which one to believe? i rather for you guys to make your own religion. believe in what you believe and act on it correctly.

and CREEDO, man, i dont know what to say to you. i am not the devil here, my post does concern me at all. it does not matter if im 18 and goes by Charm. yeah i might seem to be a kid to most peoples. but in my view its not what you see, it what you say and how you act. you act young and speak of things you dont think of before you say it. what i say now i think it over at least 2 times before i type it. i hope you wouldnt leave if you say you are. where are you going? it does not matter here if you have friends. i can careless. as long as what is said and the point were trying to make. if you dont seem to feel what i am saying well then thats too bad man. not every human can walk...

sonofbabylon has understand a little of what im saying, or i hope he does. because this does not matter. what we do or say. this sphere has its own meaning to it all. youll wait and see even if you die. you will see what i mean. it might not be accurate as i say but somewhere connected...

Charm
 
RE: why the eye? son

i ask this question earlier and sorry for not paying attention to your post. this question i ask because when people tell me they see visions. ok first visions, break it down. vision is what we get from light entering our eyes and then an image occur. if this vision they say they are seeing, it involves the eye? what if we are sleeping? we do not see light. so these visions you think of are inside your mind. not actual face to face objects they see. now if you do see it during light. do you close your eyes? or you dont pay attention if your eyes are closed? thats why i asked earlier. because this is all in the mind. if you are washing your the dishes and looked out your window and you see a glimpse of the future. is your eyes open at that time. try rubbing it. it might make a big difference. but in humans we can control our eyes to a certain point in what we want to see and dont want to see. like seeing a ghost in a dark room a white shadow occurs. now lets get basic here. in order for us to see something light has to shine. so if that ghost is real and suddenly disappears isnt that weird? how an object such as the ghosts shirt glows white and BAM!!! its gone? its becuase our brain is so focused, thats my whole point here. when your brain is so focus on what you want to see it gives the eyes a fake image. whether it is closed or not....
 
RE:by the way TTA...

i am not overloading. i am just gathering information here. if you want this matter to to get personal, be my guest. no, i do not "talk shit on the sly" thats how i just felt when i reread one of your post to me. you disrespect in a respectful way. haha its true. i ask questions and you tell me to go "read my post". ha man, what you expect? every question i ask you send me towards another direction and keep it going. so what if im young? your talking like creedo back there. does that matter? i dont care how old you are TTA or what you do. just what you say!! i ask because i want to know. i feel that you cant answer some and send my "ass" somewhere eles. i get the point... no need for going further. dont reply back to this certain post. its just all not the point. unless you feel you want to get personal on this matter...

Charm
 
RE:by the way TTA...

charm I really don't need anyone telling me who I can communicate with and who I can't . I don't understand the part about my kids doing something to hurt somebody in the future where did you get that Idea. I guess you just dreamed it up . You have no clue who I am or what I'm about or who I might be talking to. Only the future will tell who has been listening to dark forces and who has been listening to the light. you see its not hard to do the right thing whats hard is knowing what the right thing is. and as for me living in the woods it sure beats living in those hell holes you call cities. At this point in time we will all make the choice of who to listen to or who to believe that is our free will and I still think that goes here on earth.

I agree creedo not that she or he's the devil but that she or he is defenitly in the dark.
 
RE:to son of babylon

The fact is you don't ever know who your talking to . its seems you could decern by the conversation or the events that are transpiring .YOu see I don't need to know what they are capable of . My best weapon is to know what I am capable of. then there is no problem. I can talk to who ever is out there or should I say in here. to know thyself is the best defense against anyone who may want to use you for their own slimmy deceitful purposes. It took many lessons before I got to this stage and many teachers stepped in my path. this life has certainly not ended and I'm sure there will be many more. Will I fail or pass? who knows and does it really matter? I think not. the circle will circle around and then around again never ending and me becoming more and more wise with every go around. So don't fret about me and the devil she's not all that they have claimed she is. We met and now are good friends. clara
 
RE:to charm

the site for clyde Lewis is simply www.clydelewis.com. You can call him if you like. I was on the show about a month back talking about the double digits. You see he sees them to. the phone number is at the top of the web site. clara
 
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