Time Particle

Re: Time Particle-chronotons and parsufims

Friend Rainman Time of EarthTR125.0121

Absolutely interesting. However consider the following have you thought about how those sets of three's relate to each other? Also how are those sets of 3's suspended in the medium. Are they surrounded by an even more ominous force, structure, or energy construct?

When I was a little boy we had a game where we made a TOL. This TOL, every sephira was triangular instead of round. Each triangle then was linked to the other triangles by a soft and bendable coil. It was a puzzle. But when properly done you wouold end up with a beautiful figure.

I know I am making very little sense here, but try and imagine what would happen when KThR meets MLKVTh. And Daath is simply a circle representing your mind. Capable of making the size of that TOL bigger or smaller at will. Think abbout what you will find inside, think about the paths, how will they be organized. Then extrapolate it and see as it blossoms into the four realms becoming a sixteenth dimensional figure as the sword of IHVH.

Until later becomes now.
 
Difference Between Time and Tense

Hi Roel:

In an effort to continue to expound on my theory, and help you see how I am trying to move from physical to non-physical in an effort to explain consciousness, allow me to draw the distiction between what I refer to as "Time" and the similar (but different) form of time that I refer to as "Tense".

As I have explained ad-nauseum, it is my belief that Time is a fully vectorized 3-D field, that integrates with the other 3-D vectorized fields we call Mass and Space. The integration of these 3 fields is pure, raw Energy...which we cannot fully perceive. The limitations of our bodies and senses "forces" us to split-up this raw energy into the Massive SpaceTime Matrix.

The concept of "Tense" is where the idea of the human perception of linear Time comes into play. Since our senses are restricted in what we can perceive (typically limited in their frequency response), this is what sets the stage for a limited mental representation of Time within our conscious minds. This is what I call Tense. I have also described it as a relationship drawn within in our mind for how Mass relates to Space. This is a fallout of the fact that our mind determines Tense by observing Matter in Motion. The fact that we "sample" objects (Matter) as it moves (Motion) through space means we are only getting a limited look at the big picture. Our minds create Tense out of this limited view as a means to apply order to the Motions exhibited by Matter. Cause and Effect (the linear nature of Time that I call Tense) is nothing more than a result of placing an ordered structure to the Motions of Matter we observe around us.

The interesting part comes in when you look at how I have described one potential means to "measure" our mind's relationship called Tense. I said the concept of Mass Density is the means by which we determine and quantify Tense. How did I get there? Well, recall that I described the relationship of Matter as being Mass/Time, and I likewise described the relationship of Motion as being Space/Time. If you then form the ratio of Matter/Motion and do the math, you will see that "Time" cancels out of the equation, and you are left with Mass/Space...which is the scientific definition of Mass Density.

Thus, what we are saying here is that the Mass Density of an object can (and does) affect our PERCEPTION of Time...or, in other words, it affects how we perceive the relationship that I call Tense. This relates to something Creedo said in one of his more lucid posts (yes, I have always maintained that Creedo is intelligent, and has some good ideas and thoughts!). Creedo made the claim that density affects Time. I would only slightly alter that idea by saying density affects Tense (our limited perception of Time). And....doesn't this also sound a lot like Einstein's General Theory of Relativity, where he describes that the more massive an object is, the more is warps SpaceTime? What I think it is really warping is our perception of Time...and I think this all speaks directly to the concept of "frame dragging" that the new NASA probes are being launched to investigate.

Now....can anyone see a potential link between "Tense" as a relationship of our conscious minds, which is affected by Mass Density, and my comment in my other response about the possibility that the universe we live in could be trapped in the "throat" of a black hole? Assuming for the moment this is true, is it possible that the tight integration of Mass/Space/Time here inside our black hole might set-up the PERFECT conditions for an embodied consciousness to be able to perceive the relationship we call Tense? And if so, would this mean that if we "escape" out of the mouth of the black hole we live in, would we finally be able to "see" Time in its full 3-D glory?

Something worth thinking about!

RainmanTIme
 
What’s up guys?

As I've stated before, I'm with you on the massivespacetime matrix, I like several aspects of the model and "all things come in threes." does seem to be the way things are structured but What if a time particle existed but was not the "smallest" element of anything. Instead it is made up of a "Active, Neutral, and Passive" or "Past, Present, Future".. that fits in to what you are saying. What I've been thinking is, what if a time particle could be separated? If it were introduced to dark matter, what would the outcome be?
Or what if, and this may possibly be going into the realm of absurdity, but what if there is a life particle? made up of mind, body and soul\spirit? Those elements are then broken down smaller and smaller… like, Time, life and ? are the three “king” elements of them all.

This is my dream : A time particle is discovered and we can manipulate it like we do space and mass. We manage to harness a microscopic black hole. I have read that experiments are being done where by the outcome of particle smashing will result in microscopic black holes that exist for a fraction of a second. We harness this microscopic black hole and shoot a time particle into it... the outcome... who the hell knows but I'm sure interested in finding out

I dunno,

1stBorn
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And if so, would this mean that if we "escape" out of the mouth of the black hole we live in, would we finally be able to "see" Time in its full 3-D glory?

what a woderfull idea!!
 
To Firstborn:Time is expressed as something with respects to locality, in relationship to gravity mass density and flow.

This is expressed in more than one dimension additionally.

The further away that you are from a massive object, the more you change the nature and character of the flow of mass time.
 
Re: Time Particle-chronotons and parsufims

Greetings Transient!

However consider the following have you thought about how those sets of three's relate to each other? Also how are those sets of 3's suspended in the medium. Are they surrounded by an even more ominous force, structure, or energy construct?
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Yes, indeed, I have thought about this. I believe (and science seems to back this up) that the "medium" is energy itself. As to the structure, I do believe Stan Tenen has got it right with his 3,10 Torus Knot. Like I have pointed out in this thread, I think the 3 "ribbons" of the Knot represent the Massive SpaceTime Matrix. The central "axis" of the Knot, where the 3 "ribbons" intertwine in 10 distinct turns, is what I believe describes the Massive SpaceTime Matrix that we live in. In other words, the "fabric" of Mass, Space, and Time is very thickly woven in the universe we exist in. Outside the "axis" we see that Mass, Space, and Time not only become much less dense, but they "define" a sphere that encompasses the "axis" that they define. I would hazard to guess that this sphere represents the sea of eternal Energy.

I know I am making very little sense here, but try and imagine what would happen when KThR meets MLKVTh. And Daath is simply a circle representing your mind. Capable of making the size of that TOL bigger or smaller at will. Think abbout what you will find inside, think about the paths, how will they be organized. Then extrapolate it and see as it blossoms into the four realms becoming a sixteenth dimensional figure as the sword of IHVH.
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Interesting! Yes, since Kether and Malkuth obviously form the two polar elements of the central axis of Being, I have often thought about what happens when they "merge". You paint an interesting picture, but I am limited by my "engineering" approach...which means I try to think in terms of diagrams, and picturing what you are saying is a bit difficult. Got any pictures you can share or refer to? That would certainly help! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
Howdy 1stborn!

but What if a time particle existed but was not the "smallest" element of anything. Instead it is made up of a "Active, Neutral, and Passive" or "Past, Present, Future".. that fits in to what you are saying.
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Now we're getting somewhere! Yes, this is how I envision how the "Active, Neutral, Passive" elements of Time integrate to create "Past, Present, Future". In this case, what you (and maybe Roel? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif ) are doing is essentially creating the Time equivalent of an atom, right? All atoms (with the exception of Hydrogen) contain various mixtures of Electrons, Protons, and Neutrons.

This is my dream : A time particle is discovered and we can manipulate it like we do space and mass.
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I would think, just by the way we observe how Mass, Space, and Time integrate in our physical world, that if we did "discover" a time particle, we would find that it is directly relateable (i.e. in an equation format) to specific configurations of Mass Density (i.e. Mass per Volume).

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
but What if a time particle existed but was not the "smallest" element of anything. Instead it is made up of a "Active, Neutral, and Passive" or "Past, Present, Future".. that fits in to what you are saying.
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Yes, brilliant! I wonder if perhaps it's better to think of it as a "state" rather than a "part" of the timeparticle, but that's just the eyeopener I needed to continue this conversation.


In this case, what you (and maybe Roel?) are doing is essentially creating the Time equivalent of an atom, right?
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Yes and no. Calling it the Time equivalent of an atom sounds so definite. I don't want to confine myself to the model of an atom. Like I said, perhaps we have to think of it as 3 states instead of 3 seperate parts.


directly relateable
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Yes, undoubtedly. Which reminds me of a question. Ray, how would you define Space in your model. What is Space? Not in a scientific context, but more like a description of how you think we would perceive Space.

Mmmh, I feel like I'm ready for another round. Lets write some history here...



Greetings,

Roel

Oh, btw, thanks 1stBorn for opening my eyes
 
Hi Roel...just now getting around to this one...

Which reminds me of a question. Ray, how would you define Space in your model. What is Space? Not in a scientific context, but more like a description of how you think we would perceive Space.
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Well, this question would be equivalent to how would I define Mass or Time in my model. What is Mass? What is Time? What is Space?They are all equivalent questions, you see. Because they are all decomposed (described or defined) in equivalent ways. They are all 3-dimensional things.

So to answer your question of how Space is defined, it should directly equate to how we human perceive Space, right? And that is as 3-dimensional DISTANCE. We perceive discrete distances in space between ourselves and any other thing in Space. And we perceive these things in the 3 dimensions of Length, Breadth, and Depth.

The 3-D thing we call Space is the palette for a universal Creation of the 3-D thing we call Mass.

Time is the 3-D domain of this Creation of Mass-per-Space (Density).

Does that help at all, or just confuse things more? It really is all very clear when you have a good working knowledge of vectors and tensors. It is why I would only expect someone with a science or engineering background to understand what I am getting at. But you have done quite well in grasping the basics of the 3x3 Matrix model.

Can you see enough evidence for how all things can be broken down into sets of 3's at all sorts of different systemic levels?

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
"Can you see enough evidence for how all things can be broken down
into sets of 3's at all sorts of different systemic levels?"

you mean three as 3 spatial dimensions,
if so we will still need the 4 dimension (the fourth coordinate)
to determinate the physical phenomenon
 
Hi Temporel:
you mean three as 3 spatial dimensions,
if so we will still need the 4 dimension (the fourth coordinate)
to determinate the physical phenomenon
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Yes. Exactly. That is the position of self from which we all perceive. We are all singular beings that exist and perceive in 3 spatial dimensions of Space. But do you also recognize the 3 massive dimensions of Mass? And do you also recognize the 3 temporal dimensions of Time?

What if we really exist in 9 dimensions, described by a 3x3 matrix of Massive SpaceTime? If we do live in this type of structured matrix, then that would make each of us the 10th element in this 3x3 matrix of Mass+Space+Time reference field.

Would you care to share more of your thoughts from your point in Massive SpaceTime?

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
Hello RainmanTime

"Would you care to share more of your thoughts from your
point in Massive SpaceTime?"

well every one know that the mass (bending) the spacetime,
we take a three dimensional space then we curve making a trough
inside and we bring it into a 4 dimension, we can then feel, weigh,
touch this regular mass. so far for us it is real and the existence of a mass
creating a spacetime curve.

if it was the inverse, that a whatsoever mass/energy, gravity was the consequence
of a spacetime curve?

a temporel
 
I find also something interesting about the "Sephirotique tree"
in the Cabbale.
at the start of the creation there is 3 pole (source) of fundamental energy,
a sphere called "kether" including 2 others "bina" space and "hochma" time
so if time and space preexist at the creation, and theirs undulation (vibration)
may creating the curves, the curves could had created the matter...

a temporel
 
Hello Temporel:

well every one know that the mass (bending) the spacetime,
we take a three dimensional space then we curve making a trough
inside and we bring it into a 4 dimension, we can then feel, weigh,
touch this regular mass. so far for us it is real and the existence of a mass
creating a spacetime curve.
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Yes, I understand that this is the way it is commonly described. We think of Space as being 3-D and the current thought about Time is that it is the 4th warped dimension of Space. But what if the 4th dimension is one dimension above the 3 dimensions we know as Mass, Space, and Time. And what if Mass and Time were also 3-dimensional, just like you and I know that Space is 3-dimensional? Divisions of 3 integrate very well with each other.

I would propose that when we talk about "SpaceTime" we are actually talking about a 6 dimensional manifold. 3 dimensions of Space, and 3 dimensions of Time. When you link these up with 3 dimensions of Mass, you have a 9-dimensional Matrix. In this view, the 10th dimension would correspond to the single Being that integrates all 9 dimensions below it.

The 10 fingers of our human body architecture is a reminder that we are the 10th element at the center of the 3x3=9 dimensional Matrix.

Do you think that such a view of Mass/Space/Time can "fit" within how we perceive and interact with our universe?

Kind Regards,
RainmanTime
 
Yes I like the idea of a 9 dimensional matrix, then following your analyze as the 10th element ,
we have to find a way to integrates it , with out any extra mass, what if we were only allowed
to interact using a representation of our self with a (spiritual, or astral) approach in mater to
keep the balancing of the forces. If we can't we will need machine and computer help, let's
presume that we know how to recreate a 9 dimensional matrix, the 3 Dimensions of mass (perhaps the dark matter) will be only there as the consequence of the 2 others forces right?, (space n time), then we will need a anti-gravity system into a sphere to be the 10th and central element.

a temporel
 
The Big Bang began time moving as it is now, while the universe was expanding. Is it possible that during the contraction leading up to the Big Crunch that time will run backward, or at least slow down?
 
Read the Andreasson Affair and The Watchers by Betty Luca?

Everything is in there about what God really is.

This was a mobile production plan, that once man was devised, then the God production unit, might have moved on.

This is why for people on this globe, that the key production areas, of space exploration were so very very important from years 1986 on.

Were going into social collapse now, so what are our collective chances for survival, if we don't divest as a civilization and get into space?

I would say not good.

The future must be so miserable for Chronohistorian, that he had to come back here in order to find what even proper semi-civilzation was like.

It's all in the Greening of American and Alvin Toffelair's book, Future Shock.

We are in an era where abnormal is starting to become normal?
 
Zen' you don't know that?

There might have been some moral effect placed on Earth, say if God were in residence here.

It might be that the width and breadth of society gets too complex for the Angelic heiarchies to officate over and the God complex, moves entirly off this planet in the future?

In this case, there would be no rebuilding.

>I point to Pamela Moore as she had dreams or some kind of expiernece of time traveling with superbeings...?

Don't know, drop her a note, in her PM, here or visit Anomalies.net in TT.

What if Chrono is from a neighboring timeline and not this one????
 
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