The Time Traveler's wife.

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What if the time-traveler happens upon a dimension where the version of himself is abusive towards the wife ? IF he witnesses his other self inflicting physical injury to her...would he step in and stop it ? or ignore the situation entirely ?
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I think it would be very painful to observe. I also think you would develop anger toward your other self. Wether you would step in or not would be up to how much you can stand watching it, whether you were observing it going on inside a house or outside were you could be reached easily.
Perhaps you would just intervene and call the cops instead.
If you were Twighlight I suppose you could close your eyes and put your hands over your ears
and say "Its not her! Its not her! Its not her!" /ttiforum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif In that case would you do anything at all
now if you saw ANY woman being beat up by her husband? Because I think Twighlites decision would be
based on that alone. There is nothing wrong with that because that is how he would feel toward the situation.
 
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Because I think Twighlites decision would be based on that alone.
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The thing is, Pamela, in reading your interpretations of what you think time travel would be like, it certainly does appear that all of your decisions are based solely on emotion, and that alone. Which is more "dangerous" then, reacting sheerly out of emotion or using only logic? I think it would be hard for even you to deny that you get awfully wrapped-up in the romantic aspect of time travel... in some cases, literally.

RMT
 
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According to John (or his story) He must have felt each person in each timeline was somehow a part of you or connected to you. He asked me what he could do for me in the next timeline he went to.
If this was not his feelings then the question would have never been asked. If you really never get back to the same exact person then the best you can do is be kind to the next one you see.

I guess some think the divergence would be so high it would be like a whole other person.
But what if there IS some kind of connection to the other you's?

Would you really leave your wife with no other you? If he was a time traveler also and each one stepped next door to the other timeline and you could never get back to the original?
Or would you be ok with your wife having another version of you to comfort her as she would
only see another you? As she would probably not understand the complication of such a thing.

I guess there is more complication because on SOME timelines you would not be a timetraveler and there WOULD be another you with your wife. In that situation I think you should leave the man to the wife. But what if you were also a timetraveler in the other line? Ahha but how would you know
the man currently there was a timetraveler stepping in from another line also or one that was always there? LOL
 
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The thing is, Pamela, in reading your interpretations of what you think time travel would be like, it certainly does appear that all of your decisions are based solely on emotion, and that alone. Which is more "dangerous" then, reacting sheerly out of emotion or using only logic? I think it would be hard for even you to deny that you get awfully wrapped-up in the romantic aspect of time travel... in some cases, literally.
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Well I am a woman. Emotions are our speciality!

Thats why I think I am really going to like the movie.
 
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Rainman,

But if you get to another timeline would you just consider them all copies or maybe not even real
people or significant in your eyes at all?

If you could NEVER return to the same timeline would this affect your perception of the people whose worldline you were currently on or would you just care about the final timeline that you ended up on?
 
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Pamela,

But if you get to another timeline would you just consider them all copies or maybe not even real people or significant in your eyes at all?

If you could NEVER return to the same timeline would this affect your perception of the people whose worldline you were currently on or would you just care about the final timeline that you ended up on?
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I think your question serves to perfectly highlight the differences in how I was raised, and my mentality, against those of other types of people. So in this sense I am glad you asked.

One of the most powerful ways of being that was taught to me by my father, and was further reinforced by some of the mystical traditions I have studied, is the admonition to "live only in the present." That means I do not spend a lot of time thinking about "what if" when it comes to how I live my life. And even in those moments when I do think about the future, I try to make sure that I am considering future events that have a better than 50% chance of occurring. As such, "what if" considerations about time travlers and "timelines" are not things I spend my time thinking about how I would respond, because I clearly see those things as highly unlikely. So I could not tell you how I would act, until I actually saw those things come into being.

I would also hazard to guess that this distinction could well be a marker between those people who will believe unlikely stories and predictions of the future, and those people who remain rooted in the present, and only care to deal with the reality that is presented to them in each moment.

There is great power in remaining fixed in your personal present, and dealing with things as they come. Others may think there is greater power in considering things that may come to be. In my experience that is more a waste of energy and intellectual power than it is a benefit. But that is just me.

RMT
 
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I think your question serves to perfectly highlight the differences in how I was raised, and my mentality, against those of other types of people. So in this sense I am glad you asked.

One of the most powerful ways of being that was taught to me by my father, and was further reinforced by some of the mystical traditions I have studied, is the admonition to "live only in the present." That means I do not spend a lot of time thinking about "what if" when it comes to how I live my life. And even in those moments when I do think about the future, I try to make sure that I am considering future events that have a better than 50% chance of occurring. As such, "what if" considerations about time travlers and "timelines" are not things I spend my time thinking about how I would respond, because I clearly see those things as highly unlikely. So I could not tell you how I would act, until I actually saw those things come into being.

I would also hazard to guess that this distinction could well be a marker between those people who will believe unlikely stories and predictions of the future, and those people who remain rooted in the present, and only care to deal with the reality that is presented to them in each moment.

There is great power in remaining fixed in your personal present, and dealing with things as they come. Others may think there is greater power in considering things that may come to be. In my experience that is more a waste of energy and intellectual power than it is a benefit. But that is just me.

RMT
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I see you did not answer the question. It takes imagination to answer it. To place yourself in the situation and consider what you would do. It is also a brain exercise. All the great athletes use it. All the great inventors as well. Einstein himself was quoted once as saying "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
 
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I think it would be very painful to observe. I also think you would develop anger toward your other self. Wether you would step in or not would be up to how much you can stand watching it, whether you were observing it going on inside a house or outside were you could be reached easily.
Perhaps you would just intervene and call the cops instead.
If you were Twighlight I suppose you could close your eyes and put your hands over your ears
and say "Its not her! Its not her! Its not her!" In that case would you do anything at all
now if you saw ANY woman being beat up by her husband? Because I think Twighlites decision would be
based on that alone. There is nothing wrong with that because that is how he would feel toward the situation.
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That is such a load of emotionalist nonsense !

I do not even remotely concern myself with what some alter-me might be doing in some other timeline.....because as yet I have yet to see even the slightest evidence that timelines actually exist, let alone time travel. I do not worry..any more than I worry whether leprechauns are abusing faries at the bottom of my garden.
 
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I see you did not answer the question. It takes imagination to answer it. To place yourself in the situation and consider what you would do. It is also a brain exercise. All the great athletes use it. All the great inventors as well. Einstein himself was quoted once as saying "Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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There is a difference between imagination and fantasy, Pamela. I believe Twighlight's recent response also adequately expresses my response to your baiting. I will not answer your question because it is fantasy, and has little to no chance of happening to me in real life. When/if time travel becomes even remotely viable, then I may, perhaps, begin to consider what I might do in such situations. Until then, imagining my reaction to your fantasy situation would be equivalent to me imagining what I might do if confronted by Wile E. Coyote on the highways of the southwestern deserts.

RMT
 
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Well the movie isn't real either Rainman. However that's what this thread was about.
If you don't want to talk about it fine it doesn't matter to me.
 
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Well the movie isn't real either Rainman. However that's what this thread was about.
If you don't want to talk about it fine it doesn't matter to me.
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Well there is always that 1 or 2 people that want to ruin it for everyone else. I want to say for the record that this thread was thoughtfully created has tast and was very well done. I enjoyed the subject matter and the brain exercise. I can,t wait to see the movie. I did not even know about the movie until this thread came along.

We would not have the science and understanding of our universe today had it not being for brain exercises. There is just so much a super computer and advance math can do. The magic of being human is that the human mind can grasp so much more than what a super computer and advance math can tell us.
 
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A good fictional twist may have been if in the event he did leave - her mind then would tap into the superconscious out of the adrenaline produced when she 'panics' and looks for him frantically.
Once tapping into the superconscious her subconscious (most likely in the fictional sense performing the entire process) uses 'super energy' in conjunction to her perception of the world and the synapses firing off in her mind would then communicate via the superconscious and he would then subtly according to a process of the subconscious reappear in that sense.

However the very 'ironic twist' would be that over time 'if' the original person where to reappear or disappear back into the time travelling sense - the wife (or direct participant to the events) would be maintaining on some low communication heartbeat - the entire process once initiated, making for not only interesting events when the person arrives - but as well when the manifestation is simply that of the 'superconscious', her feelings and subconscious would bias and dictate some of the actions of the 'materialized' version.

(After re-reading that odd idea, I did realize it sounded a bit like Carl Jung meets the Holodeck, but I still thought it was interesting fiction nonetheless ^^)
 
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Well I went to see this movie at 7:10 pm and I was kind of surprised that the theater was packed full. I liked it but it was kind of sad. Very similiar to the book.
 
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