RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Re: The music and the net \"John Titor\" mentioned
Painthorse:
Well allow me to apologize too. What I said was not intended to be specifically aimed at you. I was merely saying it "in general". Sometimes people read emotion into words on the internet that are not there. I tend to state things very matter-of-factly. Please do not take my comments as personal to you or your beliefs.
I am in no way trying to silence you. As Kerr mentioned, I thought we were simply having a debate, and sharing our thoughts and beliefs.
Nothing. We are discussing, agreeing on some things, and disagreeing on others. That does not mean one person needs something from the other.
I'm sorry. I was not attempting to do so. I was only sharing what my experiences have brought me, and how I came to the conclusions that the Catholic Church has warped the meaning of many things with regard to our personal relationships with our Creator.
I have apologized, and I do so again. But now I think you also might want to look at yourself. Perhaps you might be getting a bit too emotional over nothing more than an internet debate? Again, my tone is very matter of fact. If that comes across as trying to "lord over you" or "shove it in your face", I apologize but I cannot control your feelings. I should also let you know that I have a condition known as Asperger's Syndrome. It means certain aspects of communication are not as they are with other people. Specifically, my means of communication are VERY matter-of-fact and not necessary "warm and fuzzy" or "politically correct". I try to prevent that, but my condition (if you know anything about it) makes it hard to realize when I am doing that while in the process of communicating.
I maintain clear compartments between any form of scientific discussion (a la time travel claims) and discussions of a spiritual nature. I am not trying to debunk you, and I respect the fact you have had different experiences and as such you have different beliefs.
See, now that is interesting. But at the same time there is an area we could disagree here. I do not see the Tree Of Life as being Satan's body, but rather it is ours, and we were literally made in the image and likeness of our Creator. Recall from Genesis that the Tree Of Life is the tree that God actually permitted Adam and Eve to partake of. IMO, that is an allegory to explain that we are, each of us, incarnations of the Tree Of Life, and that we are welcome to learn and understand ourselves (our personal Tree Of Life). It was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that was forbidden by God for Adam and Eve to partake. Why that is could have many explanations. And maybe that might be something worth discussing and debating.
Once again, I did not mean to do any of the things you mentioned. Sharing my beliefs does not mean I expect you to accept them. Only listen. And I believe the same would be true of your beliefs that you share with me.
We are separated from God in this life for the purpose of interacting with each other.
RMT
Painthorse:
I apologize, I did not realize I was trying to do that and had no intention to.
Well allow me to apologize too. What I said was not intended to be specifically aimed at you. I was merely saying it "in general". Sometimes people read emotion into words on the internet that are not there. I tend to state things very matter-of-factly. Please do not take my comments as personal to you or your beliefs.
I have a relationship with God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit, but it does not give me the right to silence anyone or anything.
I am in no way trying to silence you. As Kerr mentioned, I thought we were simply having a debate, and sharing our thoughts and beliefs.
I am really confused. I don't know what you want from me.
Nothing. We are discussing, agreeing on some things, and disagreeing on others. That does not mean one person needs something from the other.
and yet you treat me like we have some arguement over this. Do you just like to create friction where there is none?
I'm sorry. I was not attempting to do so. I was only sharing what my experiences have brought me, and how I came to the conclusions that the Catholic Church has warped the meaning of many things with regard to our personal relationships with our Creator.
It seems like we could agree on certain things, but you feel the need to silence me or at least lord over me that you are more intelligent and insightful than I could ever be. Perhaps you are right on both counts, but why would you want to shove it in my face that way? I'm not one of your students, a captive audience relying on your approval or pass/fail.
I have apologized, and I do so again. But now I think you also might want to look at yourself. Perhaps you might be getting a bit too emotional over nothing more than an internet debate? Again, my tone is very matter of fact. If that comes across as trying to "lord over you" or "shove it in your face", I apologize but I cannot control your feelings. I should also let you know that I have a condition known as Asperger's Syndrome. It means certain aspects of communication are not as they are with other people. Specifically, my means of communication are VERY matter-of-fact and not necessary "warm and fuzzy" or "politically correct". I try to prevent that, but my condition (if you know anything about it) makes it hard to realize when I am doing that while in the process of communicating.
I hope this board gives you many happy hours of fake time traveler de-bunking.
I maintain clear compartments between any form of scientific discussion (a la time travel claims) and discussions of a spiritual nature. I am not trying to debunk you, and I respect the fact you have had different experiences and as such you have different beliefs.
By the way, you got some of what I was getting at that the 'tree' was a body, and it was Satan's.
See, now that is interesting. But at the same time there is an area we could disagree here. I do not see the Tree Of Life as being Satan's body, but rather it is ours, and we were literally made in the image and likeness of our Creator. Recall from Genesis that the Tree Of Life is the tree that God actually permitted Adam and Eve to partake of. IMO, that is an allegory to explain that we are, each of us, incarnations of the Tree Of Life, and that we are welcome to learn and understand ourselves (our personal Tree Of Life). It was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that was forbidden by God for Adam and Eve to partake. Why that is could have many explanations. And maybe that might be something worth discussing and debating.
Once again, I did not mean to do any of the things you mentioned. Sharing my beliefs does not mean I expect you to accept them. Only listen. And I believe the same would be true of your beliefs that you share with me.
We are separated from God in this life for the purpose of interacting with each other.
RMT