The music and the net "John Titor" mentioned

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Hi Pamela,

The first one is Analogy to a wormhole.
Wormhole is a 'shortcut' through space and time.

The second is a Time travel hypothesis using wormholes.
It shows the relationship between 2 timelines during time travel.

The third is light, time travel and displacement involves teleportation, the information of matter is stored in a beam of light into a cloud of atoms. Quantum effects.

The fourth is a calculated travel time maps from National Geophysical Data Center for recent or significant tsunami events.

The fifth is The Hawking Hamiltonian equation which defines the vector angular momentum of the black hole.
The source of the mathematical equation is here: http://www.scifiscience.co.uk/themes/timetravel/maths.html

The last one is an artwork: Gravitational Light – Quantum Shift - by Randall Klopping 2009

The artwork was based on this: Dr. Ronald L. Mallett theorizes that the exterior gravitational field would contain closed time-like lines, which would indicate the possibility of time travel into the past.


Is this what you want to know, Pamela? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Servantx,
You seem to be a serious Christian and know a lot of scripture. Do you know of any that looks like time travel was involved, or the opposite, that God would speak against traversing time?

I have been looking and haven't found anything against it, but I also haven't found anything that speaks for it specifically either. The only possibility is after the crucifiction and before the resurrection, Jesus preached to all who had died til that time. It certainly points to another dimension, but not necessarily to time travel.

PaintHorse
 
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Hi PaintHorse,

I don't see anything against the bible as long as time travel does not change major history.

In other hand, time travel can prove the history written is correct as a time observer of the past.

Even photocopying an old manuscript of the bible in the past for modern translation.

I would love to take a photo with Jesus if timetravel back in those days, but over 2000 years may not be achievable.
 
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Something I was wondering... do you think a time traveling christian would be safe if he went back in time and entered the holy place to view the ark of the covenant?
 
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You seem to be a serious Christian and know a lot of scripture. Do you know of any that looks like time travel was involved, or the opposite, that God would speak against traversing time?
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Though not necessarily contained in every bible, there is 2 Esdras 4:1-5

Then the angel that had been sent to me, whose name was Uriel, answered
2 and said to me, ‘Your understanding has utterly failed regarding this world, and do you think you can comprehend the way of the Most High?’
3 Then I said, ‘Yes, my lord.’ And he replied to me, ‘I have been sent to show you three ways, and to put before you three problems.
4 If you can solve one of them for me, then I will show you the way you desire to see, and will teach you why the heart is evil.’
5 I said, ‘Speak, my lord.’
And he said to me, ‘Go, weigh for me the weight of fire, or measure for me a blast of wind, or call back for me the day that is past.’
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The first two problems are not insurmountable, so the third is probably not either. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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"Before Abraham was, I AM". This shows that God is Omnipresent. To Him, Time nor space exists contiguously as it does for us. He is then, as well as now, as well as when. This suggests that any attempt (passively or actively) in entering the (timestream?) would not bring us to past or future, but to the eternal NOW.

"When the gospel of the kingdom is preached to the whole world, then shall the end come." The scriptures have much to say about the end of time. The first few words "In the beginning" actually mean the beginning of time/space/matter--in the beginning (time), God created the earth (matter) and the heavens (space). It speaks of the speeding up of time before it reaches its demise (as recently suggested by the faster expansion of the universe with its resultant "loss of time" hypothesis which theorizes that time is seeping away from the universe.

Jesus, Himself, referred to time often. He said over and over again that the time was NOW. He wasn't just speaking in local terms. He was speaking in universal, heavenly terms. More importantly, He spoke of its nature (and our relation to it) as ATTAINABLE. The precise blueprint for it is contained within TORAH.
 
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he is perfectly in his right to talk about God related issues and how it relates to time travel.
If you don't like the topic simply don't participate in this thread but do not disrupt this thread
we are having a conversation here. Please respect others opinions on the forum.
 
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is that a trick question?!
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No, it is not a trick question. But it is one I have often wondered about. If I had an opportunity to time travel it is one of the items I would wish to see if possible.

But back then only priests could enter and his sins had to be forgiven through sacrifices and he had to perform certain rituals and only go in so many times a year....or he would die if he entered. But a christian has been forgiven through the shed blood of Christ and when Christ died the veil of the temple was torn in two signifying that people can come near to God now through Christ.

So what I wondered about is would a christian be able to time travel back in time and enter the holy place because he was forgiven as the priest was through Christ and not sacrifices and since God has all of time before him would the christian be allowed to enter and not die or would the old testament laws still be in place with him as well and he would die?

It is something I have wondered about but do not know the answer on and wished to get another christians opinion of it because I dont think there are very many christians who even talk about time travel. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Hi aerohead,

Then the angel that had been sent to me, whose name was Uriel, answered
2 and said to me, ‘Your understanding has utterly failed regarding this world, and do you think you can comprehend the way of the Most High?’
3 Then I said, ‘Yes, my lord.’ And he replied to me, ‘I have been sent to show you three ways, and to put before you three problems.
4 If you can solve one of them for me, then I will show you the way you desire to see, and will teach you why the heart is evil.’
5 I said, ‘Speak, my lord.’
And he said to me, ‘Go, weigh for me the weight of fire, or measure for me a blast of wind, or call back for me the day that is past.’
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The first 2 problem can be measured by the weight of particles/atoms and estimate the amount of substance measured.

The third can be done by time travel.

The lord had showed me the only way to eternity and had granted me eternal life through the death and ressuraction of his Son Jesus Christ, in his grace and mercy my sin is forgiven.

The heart is evil because we humans, Adam's race had disobeyed God and had eaten the fruit of Knowledge of Good and Evil in God's garden Eden. As we know what is good, we also know what is evil and hence tempt by evil. Those who is weak in faith and without God, they cannot self control hence hearts of men are evil.
 
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"When the gospel of the kingdom is preached to the whole world, then shall the end come." The scriptures have much to say about the end of time. The first few words "In the beginning" actually mean the beginning of time/space/matter--in the beginning (time), God created the earth (matter) and the heavens (space). It speaks of the speeding up of time before it reaches its demise (as recently suggested by the faster expansion of the universe with its resultant "loss of time" hypothesis which theorizes that time is seeping away from the universe.

Jesus, Himself, referred to time often. He said over and over again that the time was NOW. He wasn't just speaking in local terms. He was speaking in universal, heavenly terms. More importantly, He spoke of its nature (and our relation to it) as ATTAINABLE. The precise blueprint for it is contained within TORAH.
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Thank you very much for your teaching, brother Eliakim. Yes the kingdom of God shall be declared and preached to all nations so that many will be saved in the end. The time is NOW.
 
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This is by far the strangest thread I've seen on this forum. :oops: And that includes things posted by creedo.
 
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I hope my question did not offend or was too hard because I see he did not respond to it. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I wonder about alot of things actually.
 
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Well maybe I can try to answer. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif Forgive me if my drunken state banishes logic.

If I remember correctly, the urim and thummim were required (embedded in a breastplate) to enter the holy of holies. Along with all of the ritual and other things.

Based on the time requirements (only being allowed to enter a certain number of times per year) and social restriction, I think it was based on radiation. The ark could have contained something radioactive, and the breastplate and other ceremonial things could have acted as a radiation shield to protect vital organs. Also remember that "God" appeared on Mount Sanai as a cloud of thunder. That means a lot of electrons, which could be a hugely active beta emitter. And the burning bush? A desert would be a perfect place to mask the heat of a nuclear machine.

Whatever. I'm drunk. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Hi Pamela,

No we shall not enter the holy and holies even we are Christians. The Lord never give permission to anyone to see the Ark even to these days after the curtain of holy of holies was torn into 2 when Christ breathed his last on the cross. Don't even think of going near it. The angels are guarding it.

When the curtain was torned it symbolised the relationship of mankind and God was repaired by the sacrificial death of Christ, but he still didn't give permissions for us to view it.

Even the high priests in the Old Testament time need to carry a bell on their waist with a rope tired on their body, in case they die in the Holy of Holies, someone outside can be notified with the bell sound and drag the high priest's body out.

If anyone travel back to Old Teastment time and they will die as well because Christ didn't pay the penalty of sin yet.

No need to see it as you will see Christ in person soon when the time come. It is like you don't need to access the laptop for skype if you can see someone in person.

I heard that it was hidden long time ago so that the coming anti-christ can't obtain it. Please don't ask much about it anymore. It is safer to be hidden. What is on earth will not last, it is just a shadow of the real one in heaven. And Jesus is the high priest forever in heaven as written in the book of Hebrew in New Testament. He has conquered death and risen 3 days later. Put your faith in him and you will see him in person one day. In the end seeing Christ is better than seeing the ark.
 
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Eliakim,

"When the gospel of the kingdom is preached to the whole world, then shall the end come."
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This doesn't actually refer to the end of the earth or time, but to the end of this earth age. (The second of three) This is at the 7th trump when Christ returns and the Millenium begins. (Book of Peter)

Pamela,
I don't know about going back and entering the Holy of Holy's, so I would err on the safe side I think because as a time traveler you should "do as the Romans do". You might not die, but God is the final judge so I might want some divine advice before I tried it! Jesus suggested not to offend when traveling to nations to preach the gospel. Call no man common because of his food or customs. I think a time traveler should abide by laws of the time they travel to just to be on the safe side.

Hearing Christ speak would be enough for me.

PaintHorse
 
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That book is part of the Apocrypha, which I don't believe are part of true Christianity. The first clue is that they are 'secret' and that goes against all other Christian teaching which is about God's people having access to Him and knowing Him. I don't doubt the people who wrote these books considered themselves followers of Christ, they just really twisted things. I will admit I haven't read them yet, and I'm going on others descriptions and assesments in what I have read about them. I would love for this verse to be genuinely biblical because it is just what I am looking for, but I'm not going to buy into it that easy. I may have to read the Apocrypha now though.

For now I am sticking with what I consider to be the Divinely inspired books contained in the King James translation, and that is mostly because there are concordances that have ciphered out all the mis-translations, inconsistencies, and explain word meanings that were different in the time the book was written compared to today. (Like a camel going through the eye of a needle. They actually did that in Christ's time.)
 
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