Time travel_Ο
Temporal Navigator
Well, in this world line this technology won't be available until 5 years from now when Cern continues the experiment.
Theory My new John Titor theory
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vylossy
I have a question for anyone willing to answer If John titor made an appearance in 2000 when he said he was from 2036 then he should have lived the previous years and he should have also lived the year from 2000 or 2005 yk he should at least be 30 years this is just a question that got in my mind
Hello TT0 do you think watching complete steins Gate can give me some knowledge about this cern cause there was cern mentioned in steins gate anime
Time travel_Ο
Temporal Navigator
I haven't watched it, can't answer that.
D34TH BL0550M
Temporal Novice
Ok if I decide to do a movie I give you first dibs. Write me a script I'll edit as I go
Time travel_Ο
Temporal Navigator
We are becoming very strong in this world line. This year we will be releasing a number of projects that should influence the course of the world lines. Don't worry, name and history will be preserved.
where does someone mention that Titor is back?
PaulaJedi
Rift Surfer
He should still be here. It's not 2035, yet. And "John Titor" may not be his real name. (Assuming you believe the story was real).
Jay Walker
Chrono Cadet
I can't tell, I feel like I am among the minority even at this forum that does believe he was the real McCoy.
I assert that aside from the obvious, (time travel not invented yet) I feel there is more evidence that suggests truth than the contrary.
My biggest reason is that after 25 years, he has never tried to financially gain from the fame. What John did wasn't illegal, because a hoax with no harm = no foul. If I claimed I was from Mars, it doesn't break the law. If I said I was from Mars, and you can visit by jumping off the Empire State building, then there could be issues.
He has had many opportunities to exploit the Titor copyright. Producers from Disney tried to take control of the Titor name but were blocked.
Someone is protecting that copyright. Why protect it, if it were a hoax, wouldn't you just cash in?
That is an example of peripheral logic in favor of it being true.
I think the extent of time of being on a forum full of doubters would prove too much for anyone to stay consistent the way he did. I have watched interrogation documentaries and compared to this forum, an interrogation would be child's play. I've seen innocent people under a fraction of the pressure fold to unable to keep details straight.
John underwent this forum's scrutiny for almost two years, I think, and he was pretty consistent, despite people claiming major inconsistencies.
Anyway, I could go on and on.
*Personal Context* I have heard a lot of traveler stories, because I find it very interesting. This is the only time traveler story I believe.
PaulaJedi
Rift Surfer
How do you know? Maybe it's not submitted to science so that the government can't get a hold of it.
I forget the name of the person, but Titor didn't copyright the machine design. Some other guy did, who probably wanted to cash in on it.
It is the most believable, but it's not over, yet.
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HellcatMagic01
Marlin B Pohlman created a now abandoned patent that used the John Titor time travel schematics. If you acrually read it it's mostly BS. A lot of it is just random words thrown together. But people believe him because it "sounds smart" or whatever. I personally don't. Dude got arrested for drugging and raping women. He is a pretty smart guy aside from all that. Computer scientist.
Then there's the infamous Larry Haber who founded the John Titor foundation as a means to sell the Time Travellers tale book and copy right the Titor name.
If anyone wanted to make a movie it would be Lawrence Haber they would have to go through.
Marlin Pohlmans whole claim with the patent is that he basically implies he accidentally recreated the John titor patents and supposedly didn't know about the story until someone pointed it out. But in truth if you run his patent images through any search engine it brings up the John titor images. It wouldn't do this if they were two different distinct images even if they're really similar.
I've also used AI to verify it (you can do this to) and it is indeed the same exact image. In fact AI says that Marlin likely just copy and paste the images he used. It's BS. It was just him trying to position himself as the future inventor of time travel. As If one guy could do that alone. These things don't work that way, its usually a team.
Sorry to go on and on.
Tldr, Larry Haber would hold any relevent patents needed to make a movie or write books or any other media.
Jay Walker
Chrono Cadet
That is why John is unique. Hollywood has not made a time travel movie that actually makes sense. If he was a random lawyer, or computer scientist from Kissimmee Fl, or even a producer of movies or video games, why hasn't a better representation of time travel made it on to the big screen? Btw, what I mean by better, I mean one that doesn't converge back into one timeline that becomes the "real" timeline just because all is well.
JudasTitor
Quantum Scribe
Ohhh there is tons of John Titor media...... literally books, movies, games, ahem.... equipment.....
View: https://youtu.be/yo85u3VO7CA?si=krcf1nbHfKKw-gmW
View: https://youtu.be/I-pulhtgHHo?si=-_aIcsRQQxBx9bQr
View: https://youtu.be/ZbGqO0_DLbY?si=E7rSrvDiK9WJ9xce
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Jay Walker
Chrono Cadet
I have got to admit Kingmakers looks nutz! I am not I see the correlation to Titor, but I think you are saying that media is saturated with TT narratives.
However, I think you made my point for me. Kingmaker looks like the narrative is probably closer to a mix of Tron, and Army of Darkness.
On the other hand, Southpark wasn't really experimenting with Time Travel as much as making a social comment about how science and religion share more with each other than people think. With enough time, they might seem from an outside observer, to be one and the same.
Still, nothing like Titor. Yet, you got me thinking. I may have misspoken. I can't claim that I have seen everything and know no one has attempted it. I can say that nothing I have seen or heard of has not used the Titor-science or post-apocalyptic narrative like the one he described. Yet.
JudasTitor
Quantum Scribe
So you don't think John Titor Inspired either of those products? Let me try again in a more direct manor:
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/wLn-wOGWdWE?si=OWr6RG55514YOTdK
View: https://youtube.com/shorts/qPBjTS1v97k?si=BaOTkhja-vLdA3MX
View: https://youtu.be/a2eG2oD6BsM?si=dUWjP6Hf0tB5WjbH
View: https://youtu.be/N18zDlMarL0?si=9F8nPkZ1O-S0L8tF
When John was asked about what project Ginger was (iT) he answered: "iT is a type of motorized scooter". The man trolled us so hard that I'm the only 1 that has noticed it in 26 years...... that is my personal level of asshole confidence. I know what kind of man John Titor truly is.
View: https://youtu.be/fGKR1Z1lRik?si=U6HwTgAyPs0fC86H
Now imagine if he had conveniently warned you about a civil war involving Canada?
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Jay Walker
Chrono Cadet
So, have you ever seen Army of Darkness? I think this is what inspired The Kingmaker Game. I could be out-of-my-mind-wrong, but this would be my guess.
View: https://youtu.be/pFriRcIwqNU?si=D958EmZ7Rfk-46PY
However, even though I haven't seen steins;gate it does seem compellingly similar.
South Park guys are nuts, but I don't recall the convo with John about Project Ginger. Was that part of the original posts?
In summary in order to address your question and point, I have to say that I can't imagine a world that wouldn't be inspired by John's story. If I had my foot in the door as a writer or producer in any type of storytelling media, I would have taken so much stuff and made something as original as possible with John being the main inspiration.
So, did John inspire people? I certainly hope so.
However, I think I have re-thought my comments, because to claim John didn't inspire storylines would be hard to prove. There is a lot of media.
Still.
I have learned at least two things from this conversation- 1. I still have not seen an example of a movie or tv show, or video game use MWI to remove the causality paradox from the narrative. Even the multiverse in Marvel movies always converges back into one "real" world line. With the exception of Into the Spidey Verse where all the different spider-people in all the different worldlines living out there lives simultaneously.
2. I realized that not only is the violation of causality being explained away with fiction, like magic, or unknown act of divinity, but there are no examples occurring before TT_0's posts that would have inspired him to fabricate the story in the first place. If we can figure out where he got these ideas then maybe we begin to dismiss him. However, if we are willing to concede his story to be original, then we should also consider an original story being given to the world for free is not something that happens.
What do you think, am I on to something?
JudasTitor
Quantum Scribe
My man, the car in KingMakers is literally a Chevy Corvette...... John's Car, which is sitting in Rick Treworgys private collection in Punta Gorda, FL.
The original ending to Army of Darkness places Ash 100 years into the future post WW3, not selling sporting goods at S-Mart, shop smart...... Ash does not have a time machine, he sleeps like Rip Van Winkle, a vampyre.
View: https://youtu.be/j42eaiLdBTY?si=aWspwPygKjRU5QJz
Steins Gate specifically mentions John Titor.
John was directly asked about iT, project Ginger. TemporalRecon, the author, noticed this as well.
Do you know who Heather Cole is?
The original ending to Army of Darkness places Ash 100 years into the future post WW3, not selling sporting goods at S-Mart, shop smart...... Ash does not have a time machine, he sleeps like Rip Van Winkle, a vampyre.
View: https://youtu.be/j42eaiLdBTY?si=aWspwPygKjRU5QJz
Steins Gate specifically mentions John Titor.
John was directly asked about iT, project Ginger. TemporalRecon, the author, noticed this as well.
Do you know who Heather Cole is?
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Jay Walker
Chrono Cadet
I looked up her name. Bubba the Love Sponges' wife?
Oddly enough, I do know who Bubba is because he worked on Howard's Sirius/Xm Satellite radio channel.
She porked Hulk Hogan and it was taped. A lawsuit happened and yada yada yada.
Is that the person you meant?
Oddly enough, I do know who Bubba is because he worked on Howard's Sirius/Xm Satellite radio channel.
She porked Hulk Hogan and it was taped. A lawsuit happened and yada yada yada.
Is that the person you meant?
JudasTitor
Quantum Scribe
Hulk voice: "Hell yeah brother!"
No sir, Heather Cole was serving in the US air force a decade ago when she refused to issue PAL Permissive Action Link nuclear access codes for a strike against Russia in March of 2015 following the civil war in Ukraine.
Top US Commander Under Arrest For Refusing To Fire Nukes At Russia
According to Russian news sources nuclear war was averted by the heroics of Capt. Heather E. Cole, who refused to communicate the launch authorization to U.S nuclear forces. Apparently the U.S was about to launch a limited [...]
thepeoplesvoice.tv
Heather E. Cole
Heather E. Cole. 38 likes. Due to the heroics of Capt. Heather E. Cole World War 3 was Prevented on March 17 2015.
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Former US nuclear command officer charged with diverting military contracts to her own company
US Navy Captain Heather Cole has been charged with criminal conspiracy after failing to disclose her active-duty military status while negotiating over half a million dollars in defense contracts with her own company.
"Cole was fired in 2015 as commander of Navy Strategic Communications Wing 1, which maintains a secure link between the Navy’s fleet of ballistic missile subs and US leaders. Navy spokesman Brian O’Rourke claims her firing was unrelated to the current charges, and Cole’s commanding officers at the time blamed “professional shortcomings” for her dismissal, citing “cultural issues” within the wing rather than problems with its Strategic Nuclear Forces mission.
Not everyone accepted that explanation, however. A Navy Times piece about Cole’s case took pains to dismiss “conspiracy theories suggesting that she refused to transmit nuclear launch codes after the Pentagon supposedly ordered a sneak attack against Russia.” Her lawyer claims she is being “railroaded” out of “fear of the truths she has told and is continuing to tell,” and commenters on a previous article discussing her dismissal scoff at the idea that “cultural issues” were the cause of her departure. "
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Jay Walker
Chrono Cadet
TBH, I see more of a connection to Bubba the Love Sponge and TT_0 because at least Bubba, and Heather live in Tampa. 
What is the connection with Heather E. Cole and TT_O? I mean, it is a frightening story, especially because of who was Prez at the time. I know he had some drone strikes under his belt, but him ordering an unprovoked nuclear attack against another nuclear power. Doesn't sound plausible, but weirder stuff has happened.
I am just curious, do people think John saved the day again? First, Y2K, then nuclear war?
I can't call heads or tails when it comes to this stuff. I try to focus on the original posts and implications of his story, because he said himself, "my future is not your future." He never made any predictions about future events, he always spoke about the events as if they had already happened. For him, they did already happen.
Remember when TT_0 used a WW2 analogy about changing the future. (Paraphrasing) If someone were to warn the radar men at the Opana Radar Site in Oahu that the cluster of blips were not American B-17s but was the Entire Japanese Fleet, the sneak attack would have been thwarted. Then, the U.S doesn't have the support to enter the European war, then without us determined to build the bomb before Germany, Hitler builds it first, so on and so on.
Since John has training on such domino effects, he would be aware of the changes he made in 1999, when Y2K never hit us. That is the only event he claimed having a hand in. There are little hints to what he was up to.
He mentioned he stopped in 1998. = Coast to Coast Fax. In the fax the person claimed to be from 2036, and was on a mission. The fax said that there is no future past a certain year. He said, the line goes bad around 2000.
TTI posts - he mentions a secret mission and said he had a theory he had and wanted to test it out.
He also mentions that what he does on this worldline makes no difference to the one he plans to return to.
He stays for a bit after the 2000 elections, and ends his posts with a mention of why no one was wondering why Y2K never hit them.
In other words, this is his laundry list of tasks.
- He has his mission 1975 collect IBM machine
- Moves to 1998 sends fax, develops a plan
- Stops Y2K
- Stays until 2001 just to see how things play out, and make sure the President that caused his line's Civil War isn't elected.
- Drops some breadcrumbs along his journey for us to follow just in case war was inevitable
- Returns home.
The End.
P.S. I was going to start a thread asking people to give examples of how nothing has changed in the last 25 years, compared to the decades before that. e.g. 60's v. 70s music, fashion, acting, etc. 70's to 80s etc.
Then look at the difference between 2000 v 2010, or 2010 v. 2020. Not really as much noticeable differences. Almost like those decades shouldn't have happened.
What are your thoughts?
* Disclaimer, I wrote all the above from memory and my general understanding. If there are holes or the order of events are off, either I find those details unimportant, memory shot from smoking too much pot, or it would take too long to write everything.
- J
What is the connection with Heather E. Cole and TT_O? I mean, it is a frightening story, especially because of who was Prez at the time. I know he had some drone strikes under his belt, but him ordering an unprovoked nuclear attack against another nuclear power. Doesn't sound plausible, but weirder stuff has happened.
I am just curious, do people think John saved the day again? First, Y2K, then nuclear war?
I can't call heads or tails when it comes to this stuff. I try to focus on the original posts and implications of his story, because he said himself, "my future is not your future." He never made any predictions about future events, he always spoke about the events as if they had already happened. For him, they did already happen.
Remember when TT_0 used a WW2 analogy about changing the future. (Paraphrasing) If someone were to warn the radar men at the Opana Radar Site in Oahu that the cluster of blips were not American B-17s but was the Entire Japanese Fleet, the sneak attack would have been thwarted. Then, the U.S doesn't have the support to enter the European war, then without us determined to build the bomb before Germany, Hitler builds it first, so on and so on.
Since John has training on such domino effects, he would be aware of the changes he made in 1999, when Y2K never hit us. That is the only event he claimed having a hand in. There are little hints to what he was up to.
He mentioned he stopped in 1998. = Coast to Coast Fax. In the fax the person claimed to be from 2036, and was on a mission. The fax said that there is no future past a certain year. He said, the line goes bad around 2000.
TTI posts - he mentions a secret mission and said he had a theory he had and wanted to test it out.
He also mentions that what he does on this worldline makes no difference to the one he plans to return to.
He stays for a bit after the 2000 elections, and ends his posts with a mention of why no one was wondering why Y2K never hit them.
In other words, this is his laundry list of tasks.
- He has his mission 1975 collect IBM machine
- Moves to 1998 sends fax, develops a plan
- Stops Y2K
- Stays until 2001 just to see how things play out, and make sure the President that caused his line's Civil War isn't elected.
- Drops some breadcrumbs along his journey for us to follow just in case war was inevitable
- Returns home.
The End.
P.S. I was going to start a thread asking people to give examples of how nothing has changed in the last 25 years, compared to the decades before that. e.g. 60's v. 70s music, fashion, acting, etc. 70's to 80s etc.
Then look at the difference between 2000 v 2010, or 2010 v. 2020. Not really as much noticeable differences. Almost like those decades shouldn't have happened.
What are your thoughts?
* Disclaimer, I wrote all the above from memory and my general understanding. If there are holes or the order of events are off, either I find those details unimportant, memory shot from smoking too much pot, or it would take too long to write everything.
- J