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Re: lizarians, named our lizards.

Chrono

If they did named our lizards and that must have taken place thousands of years into the past why have they chose to use an enlgish derivated word in the future. You see, the word lizard does not exist in the latin vernacular, where they were named saurus. So they named themselves lizarans after the English word lizard, not planned out as good as it should have.

Now on anti-gravity, are your ships powered by anti-gravity devices? Please do tell.

Until later becomes now
 
Re: lizarians, revisited

Chrono

You say that this imagined aliens of yours speak English, is that right? Well is it their first language English, or is it that they simply chose to make it easier for humanity on the communications affairs and learned it so that we would not have any trouble with the communication of ideas?

Do they have a language of their own or is it that Lizarans are a part of one of your sci fi stories that you wrote yourself, with ships powered by lunarium, an invention your were proud of until you were told that some one else had thought about it first, but that only after having stumbled upon this site and decided to aggregate the time traveling motive to your story and possibly get to live a part of it by introducing it to us and have us all believe that you are from the future.

My friend, if you want to hear that you were creative, and flabbergasted us with your own version of the future, well on my opinion you have just been creative. But there is still plenty of room for improvement. In order to accomplish that you must read, you must read a lot on all possible subjects. Specially natural sciences.

I already know you do not like science yourself, but you must give it a try in order to give your stories a more credible plot. For example;

....Imagine the world of R'na, where two rivaling nations had been doing battle for nearly two decades, must of the uninvolved countries had either crumbled because of the economic impasses or forced to join one of the two main nations. The few cities that are still standing had become enormous fortress-states where everyone simply strives to survive. Both nations, Danzeia and Kornicca, for more than a decade had been clashing in horrible battles were the conflict only seems to be getting worse.
Amidst all the decay and broken spirits a small flame illumines shinning a way out of this despicable and debilitating war. Her name is Taar Echtan the sole survivor of an ancient order of priests and priestesses who secretly dedicated their lives to the protection of the Temporal Reigns. She now appears, wrinkled and old, tired and desperated, striving to find an apprentice who would learn the mystical arts of the Ancient Teh of Old and would once again provide protection to the Reings of Time.
But even when things seem dark they get darker for now a sinister and misterious assasin is stalking Teh Taar Echtan and might exterminate the last hope the world of R'na ever had...

So you see, it has a simple language, a considerable plot and sub-plots where a wide variety of readers might get interested. All it took for me was a brief glance at my library for inspiration. Having seen the title of A war of two cities, The Assasin, And a Brief History of the Pytonises and obviously the motive of time travel gave me all the tools needed for the elaboration of this short story.

Hope you get inspired, but I shall see it....

....Until later becomes now.
 
Re: lizarians, english as the first language

Chrono

You do know that is only possible in sci-fi flicks or comic books. The idea of two languages evolving the same way in two disparate worlds is plian ludicrous.

You see, a language is a living form of communication that thrills on other languages around it in order to continue it's life through out history. History also plays a part in this communications race, for the more important and influential countries or states will impart variations to all languages around it. So for the Lizarans be able to speak English, they must have had identical mother tongues to those found on our Earth, and not only that but quite similar historical outcomes through out centuries of eventualities. For example do you really know from where does the Lizard word comes from, it is a gaulic word, that later on evolved into northern France and later on by the mid 1300's introduced into the British Islands. Because after the Roman occupation they English people only knew the term Saurus for the little frolicking reptiles that dashed around them.

So Chronohistorian, it is very unlikely that Lizarans had English as their mother tongue, or perhaps a thousand years into the future a starship from the Communion of Systems had a malfunction over the HT345JX Star System while on an exploration mission and it was catapulted two thousand years into the past. The crew of humans, learning that their drives were fried to a crisp and with few energy to at least reach an Earth of the past decided to land on the small moon of a Gas Giant on the same system.

There they found out that the moon was populated by many tribes of lizard like creatures who were extremely primitive and brute. The humans, little by little began to make contact with the SS'rit as they called themselves and began to teach them.

When the last of the humans died of old age, they were immortalized as the Unscaled Ones or Tak Shaan, and brought up into godly status. But before the last one died he revealed that there were others among the stars and they should try and find them.

Maybe that was it.

Until later becomes now.
 
Re: lizarians, english as the first language

the two languages are similar but some of the words are different or mean something else.



lizarans are the only other species that we have found to speak english
 
Re: lizarians, english as the first language

Clearly...

Transient's stories are WAY more convincing, and consistent, than Chrono's! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

RainmanTime
 
Re: Thank You Rain

Friends

Thank you Rainman Time. It is clear that our friend Chrono is going down, very down. How in the blazing furnaces can two biologically different races develop the same language as their mother tongue. That does not happen, anywhere. So my advice to you Chrono, read plenty of literature, science, history and a little of phonetics and logic and then come back.

The worst thing than a liar, is an ignorant liar.(Not actually reffereing or addressing anyone in special, just a thought)

Until later becomes now.
 
Re: Draconians

Friend Creedo

We are not to confuse the Fake Lizarians with the well known Draconian-like Outer dimensional creatures.

Chronohistorian simply happened to make something up that was indeed similar to something that might be real.

Until later becomes now.
 
Re: Draconians

Transient001-it is possible that they speak english. Anyway if two biological different races can't have the same language then why can't the same bilogical race have the same language? I am talking about earthlings here because there are different languages.
 
Re: The Chronoanthropologist

Chrono

The reason is simple. As the first earthlings began to communicate it took place in sevral places at once. However this tribes did not have the same basic words as the other ones. As this tribes grew they began to advance their language in different ways. Even some tribes that originally spoke the same language began to exhibit variations in their language due to distance, proximity to other foreign speaking tribes and in-cultural advancement. As this kept on happening, languages began to grow more complex every passing generation up to the point of our own period, where every single years new words are being created or incorporated from other languages.

So you see that is why the same race can never have the same mother tongue.

Chronoanthropologist signing out.

Until later becomes now.
 
Re: The Chronoanthropologist

there are millions of planets with life on out there. chances are even if I was lying that there would be one that spoke english besides us.
 
Re: The Chronoanthropologist

chances are even if I was lying that there would be one that spoke english besides us.
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BALONEY! You have asolutely NO means to support such a statement, as it would require quite a sophisticated, probabilistic equation. Put up (with the equation) or shut up!

The ONLY "universal" language is mathematics...and even here, the liklihood that we would use the same symbols to describe mathematical concepts would be clearly MUCH LESS than 1E-9 (that's 1 in a billion).

RainmanTime
 
Re: The Chronoanthropologist

actually sign language is also a universal language because you can teach sign language much faster than you can teach other languages and most alien races already have sign language.
 
Re: The Chronoanthropologist

Humble pie:>In my rage I hated all Arabs.

I despised them for what they were and wished not to deal with them at all.

I kept this hatred, till one day I had discovered that some of the Arab doctors, were simply some of the best physicians anywhere.

My' does hate sometimes place blinders around the realms of possibilities?

2.I walked by the general that day and he saw that I had noticed the creature that they had in captivity behind the smoked and darkened glass.

I asked the general if they could communicate with him?

The general said that they had tried, but nobody could seem to understand either what he was saying, or his form of language.

I had entered the special room and it about one hundred and fifteen, in dry heat.

I tried to work with him, at first to no avail....And then it donned on me, that he was talking very quickly.

This is why I could not, nor anyone else understand him.

After a while of working with him, I began to understand what he was saying, it was English alright and from there lines of communication opened up.

Quoted from a true story: /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: The chronopsychologist speaks...

Chrono it seems that you have finally come to accept the in unavoidable. You are starting to accept that all these stories were simple innocent lies, your two previous post express it. In your last post you speak like a being from this timeline, temporal travelers would never do this, they would always keep pronouns in balance when speaking about our time and theirs, yet you say

"do you think in 500 years we will still be where we are now with no advancement?"

It is okay, their is no shame in what you did, others have done it in the past and they still belong to this community. The good thing is that by coming clear you would be respected by the being you truly are, and not by an invention that lingers in the deep recesses of your imagination. You yourself will be the one talking to us, not just an invented character, a figment of your imagination. By being yourself you will start learning and contributing to our community. You will grow and mature with the help of many here, not really implying that your are not grown enough but in the learning sense.

I am sure you have plenty of ideas that we would all like to hear, simply bare an open mind and always consider that the easiest way to explain something is through science.

No apologies needed my friend.

Until later becomes now.
 
Re: The chronopsychologist speaks again

Chrono

Perhaps you are simply self-validation through the amiability and acceptance that others could provide you with. Perhaps the intricate pattern of irrelevances that you have placed before us as supposed future events is nothing more than an attempt to regain a a certain unverifiable status within your cognitive structures that would allow you to accept yourself and actually modify the impressions and cosntructs that you have of your self-image.

What I mean Mr. Chrono H. is that all this charade is nothing else than the need for acceptance, a possible narcissistic personality disorder underway and an ego structure in need of engrandizement.

Until later becomes now.
 
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