Here Some More Darby, If You Dare.....
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And Titor said that some of it was done by trial and error.
It sure would be!
This is math according to the book (and although I may not be quite correct with some of what I poste before like saying that there are something like 4000 modular functions or so, it may just be hundreds, I am not sure without looking at the book again, even if they are sure!), that they started using artist sketching notebooks with doing the math, because the sheets are much larger.
According to Dr. Kaku, writing very small with a pencil, they start in the upper left hand corner, proceed across the page, and continue down and across the page, and then turn the sheet over, and start again on the back side of the same sheet. This goes on, for hundreds of pages!
Again after all of that, that is still like only one part of all the equations they have to explore and do!
It sure would be only through trial and error that Titor ever left even remotely a parallel universe in the future to end up here!
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It sure would be!
This is math according to the book (and although I may not be quite correct with some of what I poste before like saying that there are something like 4000 modular functions or so, it may just be hundreds, I am not sure without looking at the book again, even if they are sure!), that they started using artist sketching notebooks with doing the math, because the sheets are much larger.
According to Dr. Kaku, writing very small with a pencil, they start in the upper left hand corner, proceed across the page, and continue down and across the page, and then turn the sheet over, and start again on the back side of the same sheet. This goes on, for hundreds of pages!
Again after all of that, that is still like only one part of all the equations they have to explore and do!
It sure would be only through trial and error that Titor ever left even remotely a parallel universe in the future to end up here!
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Hercules
Temporal Navigator
"Although I am familiar with the general manufacture of the unit, I am not a physicist or a scientist. My background is in history and I had the correct profile to accomplish my given task in 1975. I doubt that most jet fighter pilots are aeronautical engineers and I'll bet most of you couldn't give me the formula for horsepower, yet you drive a car every day.
The second point I can illustrate with an interesting story. In the opening phases of WWI, one of the largest problems early fighter pilots had was how to shoot a machine gun through the propeller blades without chopping it to bits. The problem was very straightforward. When the engine was off, the blades took up only a small percentage of the total arch but with the engine on, there was seemingly no way to know when it was safe to shoot through them. This problem lasted for quite a while until a very smart person came up with a very simple solution. By using a small lobed cam on the propeller shaft that controlled a switch on the machine gun, it was possible to stop the gun from firing only when the cam turned off the switch at the point a bullet might hit the blade. It was so simple in fact the other side only caught on to the idea after one of the planes crashed and they were able to take it apart.
My point is; seemingly very complicated problems often have very simple and ingenious solutions using technology that is already available. The distortion unit is not magic and no alien technology was required to make it work. If you could see it, the "smarts" that went into designing it will amaze you more than the technology. Heck, the really interesting technology is in the computer.
The magnetic field does not require the fantastic energies you might imagine. The field is "created" and captures the singularity inside a very large and powerful specially designed particle accelerator. If the magnetic system failed (which has numerous backups including a system that would remove it from this worldline), the singularity would evaporate. Although it is smaller than an electron, it would still be quite undesirable." - JT
By the "simple" solution, he also hints how Y2K was solved with 5100 from 1975 in our Worldline. Can u find a better way how it was solved?
I personally believe that "faster than light" method of Time Travel is impossible, and even if possible, could take a 100 years or so. Titor's method is Correct.
Another point is, if you take Titor's postings to a Psychologist, he'll tell you he's real or not, rather than taking it to a scientist in CERN.
The second point I can illustrate with an interesting story. In the opening phases of WWI, one of the largest problems early fighter pilots had was how to shoot a machine gun through the propeller blades without chopping it to bits. The problem was very straightforward. When the engine was off, the blades took up only a small percentage of the total arch but with the engine on, there was seemingly no way to know when it was safe to shoot through them. This problem lasted for quite a while until a very smart person came up with a very simple solution. By using a small lobed cam on the propeller shaft that controlled a switch on the machine gun, it was possible to stop the gun from firing only when the cam turned off the switch at the point a bullet might hit the blade. It was so simple in fact the other side only caught on to the idea after one of the planes crashed and they were able to take it apart.
My point is; seemingly very complicated problems often have very simple and ingenious solutions using technology that is already available. The distortion unit is not magic and no alien technology was required to make it work. If you could see it, the "smarts" that went into designing it will amaze you more than the technology. Heck, the really interesting technology is in the computer.
The magnetic field does not require the fantastic energies you might imagine. The field is "created" and captures the singularity inside a very large and powerful specially designed particle accelerator. If the magnetic system failed (which has numerous backups including a system that would remove it from this worldline), the singularity would evaporate. Although it is smaller than an electron, it would still be quite undesirable." - JT
By the "simple" solution, he also hints how Y2K was solved with 5100 from 1975 in our Worldline. Can u find a better way how it was solved?
I personally believe that "faster than light" method of Time Travel is impossible, and even if possible, could take a 100 years or so. Titor's method is Correct.
Another point is, if you take Titor's postings to a Psychologist, he'll tell you he's real or not, rather than taking it to a scientist in CERN.
Hercules
Temporal Navigator
"Just because "Titor" repeated material that others had already floated does not make him any more "real"."
I disagree with this statement.
Rainman, I guess u'll agree with Titor, if he said an Alien Technology was used to build the Time Machine? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
I disagree with this statement.
Rainman, I guess u'll agree with Titor, if he said an Alien Technology was used to build the Time Machine? /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Fine. Then would you like to provide some objective evidence for how re-telling existing stories makes it more possible that these stories are real?
I am not in the habit of believing anything that fictional characters claim.
RMT
Hercules
Temporal Navigator
"Fine. Then would you like to provide some objective evidence for how re-telling existing stories makes it more possible that these stories are real?"
Regarding the evidence, I did Research on the Y2K in our worldline he was talking about and found that what he told made sense. But a lot of people here are not accepting that he traveled from 1975 to 1998 and then he came to 2000. To return, he has to go to 1998 and then to 1975 and to 2036. While coming to 1998, he helped us fix Y2K for his own Good. He never explicitly said that but asked someone to do research on it to discover the truth. I found that what he said was convincing.
What do you expect from a Real Time Traveler?
Or u say Time Traveling is not at all possible just because it contradicts your thoughts?
To satisfy you, he could have created "new" stories instead of using "existing" stories. It wouldnt be difficult for a hoaxer like him to create new stories. He could have said The civil War breaks out in 2015 to make people mad about him for another 10 years.
Why didn't he do that?
Regarding the evidence, I did Research on the Y2K in our worldline he was talking about and found that what he told made sense. But a lot of people here are not accepting that he traveled from 1975 to 1998 and then he came to 2000. To return, he has to go to 1998 and then to 1975 and to 2036. While coming to 1998, he helped us fix Y2K for his own Good. He never explicitly said that but asked someone to do research on it to discover the truth. I found that what he said was convincing.
What do you expect from a Real Time Traveler?
Or u say Time Traveling is not at all possible just because it contradicts your thoughts?
To satisfy you, he could have created "new" stories instead of using "existing" stories. It wouldnt be difficult for a hoaxer like him to create new stories. He could have said The civil War breaks out in 2015 to make people mad about him for another 10 years.
Why didn't he do that?
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Just because it "made sense" does not mean he is a real time traveler. He also predicted lots of mad cow disease, and given the stories of this, that "made sense" too. Neither of these lend any credence to his being an actual time traveler.
How about reading what I typed to understand what I was saying? More people than Darby have pointed out where some of Titor's themes came from existing SciFi stories. So what I was saying (again) is: Just because someone re-tells existing SciFi stories does NOT lend any more credence to them being real time travelers, even if the stories seem to "make sense".
You are absolutely right, he could have. But he didn't. In my mind that makes it LESS likely he is a real time traveler, but instead just a lazy hoaxer who gathered-up a bunch of different stories from things he had read in the past, and tried to string them together into something that "made sense".
I repeat: Just because he re-tells old stories does not, in any way, make him any more real. In fact, in many people's minds, this is a sure sign of a hoax!
RMT
Hercules
Temporal Navigator
"How about reading what I typed to understand what I was saying? More people than Darby have pointed out where some of Titor's themes came from existing SciFi stories. So what I was saying (again) is: Just because someone re-tells existing SciFi stories does NOT lend any more credence to them being real time travelers, even if the stories seem to "make sense"."
Which book? I am very Eager to read those books(probably u will say it is Kerr or Tipler). Please tell me the name of those books. He pulled out, how did he merge them correctly?
Which book? I am very Eager to read those books(probably u will say it is Kerr or Tipler). Please tell me the name of those books. He pulled out, how did he merge them correctly?
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
No I am not going to say Kerr or Tipler. I remembered incorrectly in my previous post. It was not "Paradise Lost", but "Alas Babylon". Here is the post where some of the similarities in Titor's story and "Alas Babylon" were pointed out.
http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=14606&page=&view=&sb=&o=&vc=1
What do you mean "he pulled out"? I don't understand what you are saying.
RMT
Hercules
Temporal Navigator
I dont have anything to refute there. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
"What do you mean "he pulled out"? I don't understand what you are saying."
In one of the threads Darby said Titor was pulling out "scientific" concepts from books, I dont remember exactly what it was.
One other thing- Day before Yesterday I prepared a "Revised John Titor Story" considering the latest interpretations of "Yellowstone" and "Y2K" where in all the dots were connected and the mysteries are resolved. I am not saying its real, but the story came out well.
But Alas! I accidentally deleted it. I dont know what made me do that /ttiforum/images/graemlins/mad.gif
This weekend I'll try to get a Data Recovery Software and I'll get it back and post the "revised" story.
I dont want to prepare it once again. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/cry.gif
"What do you mean "he pulled out"? I don't understand what you are saying."
In one of the threads Darby said Titor was pulling out "scientific" concepts from books, I dont remember exactly what it was.
One other thing- Day before Yesterday I prepared a "Revised John Titor Story" considering the latest interpretations of "Yellowstone" and "Y2K" where in all the dots were connected and the mysteries are resolved. I am not saying its real, but the story came out well.
But Alas! I accidentally deleted it. I dont know what made me do that /ttiforum/images/graemlins/mad.gif
This weekend I'll try to get a Data Recovery Software and I'll get it back and post the "revised" story.
I dont want to prepare it once again. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/cry.gif
creedo299
Epochal Historian
Ray' all concerned here, if you could, in the IRC logs from Anomalies, could you elude to where Darby finnaly accepts a differing view of how the Kerrs would sit in space-time?
Do you have these logs available, so everyone could see?
*The former supposition of Darby MOP, was that if a miniature black hole was created inside of said Titor vehicle, then this act alone would have taken in the entire vehicle.
With time, the correct view is, that the black holes, would be produced as clusters and projected away from the control unit.
The evaporation rate, would require that miniature black holes be constantly produced to a locale, as their evaporation rates would have been so high?
Furthermore, the action of thre mechanics of said approximated said cluster black holes, would have been that some of their event horizon, was modulated away from the black hole cluster.
This siad, in an exaggerated manner, that the event horizon was eight feet away, not inches from the microcluster, which was Darby's original suppostion.
The mechanics of this type of black hole, would have some of the attrractional forces canceled out.This was due, to how the proposed fields overlap, so the outer shells, might demonstrate a differing stile of particle junk injestion, as opposed to only a singular black hole.
This is intresting, thank you!
Do you have these logs available, so everyone could see?
*The former supposition of Darby MOP, was that if a miniature black hole was created inside of said Titor vehicle, then this act alone would have taken in the entire vehicle.
With time, the correct view is, that the black holes, would be produced as clusters and projected away from the control unit.
The evaporation rate, would require that miniature black holes be constantly produced to a locale, as their evaporation rates would have been so high?
Furthermore, the action of thre mechanics of said approximated said cluster black holes, would have been that some of their event horizon, was modulated away from the black hole cluster.
This siad, in an exaggerated manner, that the event horizon was eight feet away, not inches from the microcluster, which was Darby's original suppostion.
The mechanics of this type of black hole, would have some of the attrractional forces canceled out.This was due, to how the proposed fields overlap, so the outer shells, might demonstrate a differing stile of particle junk injestion, as opposed to only a singular black hole.
This is intresting, thank you!
years difference = year2 - year1
Is a date bug. That will fail when year2 rolls around to 00. In code it looks like this:
x = y - z
In assembly it's similar to this :
load register 1, y
load register 2, y
subtract into register 3
The problem is, other math operations that don't involve a date could look exactly the same. So how would a computer understand it needs to add a line to fix the bug:
if year2 < year_program_was_made then year2 = year2 + 100
A computer, especially an old one, does not know how to tell numbers from dates. Only artificial intelligence could fix it. And you'd need a machine much faster than a 5100 to run that software.
Is a date bug. That will fail when year2 rolls around to 00. In code it looks like this:
x = y - z
In assembly it's similar to this :
load register 1, y
load register 2, y
subtract into register 3
The problem is, other math operations that don't involve a date could look exactly the same. So how would a computer understand it needs to add a line to fix the bug:
if year2 < year_program_was_made then year2 = year2 + 100
A computer, especially an old one, does not know how to tell numbers from dates. Only artificial intelligence could fix it. And you'd need a machine much faster than a 5100 to run that software.
Hercules
Temporal Navigator
"A computer, especially an old one, does not know how to tell numbers from dates. Only artificial intelligence could fix it. And you'd need a machine much faster than a 5100 to run that software."
Titor came for the "source" of the Legacy Code which was "in" the IBM 5100.
It is needed to debug and reprogram the Y2K or Y2K38.
Why Y2K was viewed as a serious problem? It is not possible to change the year easily: 98, 99 and then 00 cannot be changed very easily.
It is because all OSs followed the same "Source code" which is "lost" in the "past".
The "source" of the Legacy Code is written into the ROM of the IBM 5100 when it was first released in 1975. The IBM did not want their competitors to access the "source code" so they disabled it. To enable it and acess it, it has to be "Tweaked".
This source code contained the necessary "compiler" or "Interpreter" to debug and fix Y2K and Y2K 38.
Titor came for the "source" of the Legacy Code which was "in" the IBM 5100.
It is needed to debug and reprogram the Y2K or Y2K38.
Why Y2K was viewed as a serious problem? It is not possible to change the year easily: 98, 99 and then 00 cannot be changed very easily.
It is because all OSs followed the same "Source code" which is "lost" in the "past".
The "source" of the Legacy Code is written into the ROM of the IBM 5100 when it was first released in 1975. The IBM did not want their competitors to access the "source code" so they disabled it. To enable it and acess it, it has to be "Tweaked".
This source code contained the necessary "compiler" or "Interpreter" to debug and fix Y2K and Y2K 38.