God: Real, or not?

[Nicolas]

Simple, if it cant be explain beyond human comprehension then there is Someone out there beyond having a brighter and perfect thinking who understands it - a God ..

Well that's just lazy.Let me illustrate:

Once upon a time, men didn't know what lightning was. They then came to the same conclusion as you: "It HAS to be a god. I can't be anything else! How is it possible that we, simple humans will ever understand how those loud things work!" Like you said, it was beyond human comprehension at that time.

Now we know how that works. Not only electricity but we can cure and prevent diseases that a while ago were also seen as the will of god. We can fly around in iron cylinders. We can split atoms!

We, the civilized part of the planet, already know that it isn't prudent to affirm such a thing as "we don't know how X works, it must be a god behind it".

You see, in the other part of this planet, where people are still living a few ages behind us, they still claim some natural phenomena to be the will of their particular god, when we already know how they work.

What I'm trying to say is: Not knowing how something works, doesn't prove a god exists. It only proves we don't know how that thing works. Yet.

 

[xTinx]

This is a super gray area I'd rather not touch on. I have my own faith and others can have theirs. So long as we don't impose our belief or non-belief on others, I think it's pointless to debate about the existence of God. People will always have clashing views. The reason why I believe in Him is that I have felt His presence many times in my life. Even if my knowledge about science and philosophy tries to contradict me all the time, I choose to believe in Him simply because doing so has made me a better and happier person.

 

[Mylo.X.]

This is a super gray area I'd rather not touch on. I have my own faith and others can have theirs. So long as we don't impose our belief or non-belief on others, I think it's pointless to debate about the existence of God. People will always have clashing views. The reason why I believe in Him is that I have felt His presence many times in my life. Even if my knowledge about science and philosophy tries to contradict me all the time, I choose to believe in Him simply because doing so has made me a better and happier person.

Can I ask why you refer to God as him? Is it a figure of speech, or do you believe that God really is a male?

 

[Nicolas]

This is a super gray area I'd rather not touch on. I have my own faith and others can have theirs. So long as we don't impose our belief or non-belief on others, I think it's pointless to debate about the existence of God. People will always have clashing views. The reason why I believe in Him is that I have felt His presence many times in my life. Even if my knowledge about science and philosophy tries to contradict me all the time, I choose to believe in Him simply because doing so has made me a better and happier person.

Well, but you just did [touch on it].And that's fine! As long as it continues impersonal and peaceful, I don't see why not keep on talking about it in an online thread called God: real or not?




To me, the debate around a god's existence is of utter importance. Such a debate, a few years back, brought me to rethink most of my life. I now live a happier, healthier and more meaningful life. No idea is sacred enough that it can't be debated.

And, since you gave me a reason for your belief in the deity of your choosing, I'm compelled to comment. Please note that this is not a personal attack. I don't know you and only wish to address the idea you proposed:

Feeling something exists isn't evidence that it actually exists. Feeling something only proves you have a brain that is able to make you feel that way. A feeling doesn't exist outside one's brain. Schizophrenia, magic tricks, optical illusions, exposure to 18 to 19 Hz infrasound, absence blindness, even infatuation, all are practical examples that the human brain isn't reliable in telling us what is true. Not by itself.

But I get it. If that's enough for you, than it is. If it makes you happy, praise the shit out of that god of yours. Just know that it's ok to be mistaken sometimes. There's a reason why all your science and philosophy knowledge contradicts you. Although our brains are highly evolved organs, they still make mistakes.

 

[KerrTexas]

Let me illustrate:Once upon a time, men didn't know what lightning was. They then came to the same conclusion as you: "It HAS to be a god. I can't be anything else! How is it possible that we, simple humans will ever understand how those loud things work!" Like you said, it was beyond human comprehension at that time.

Care to share which civilization worshiped lightening as a god?

 

[Nicolas]

Care to share which civilization worshiped lightening as a god?

Oh no, I didn't mean that. What I meant was "It has to be a god (responsible for that)" or "It has to be a god (that did that).But anyhow, natural phenomena were, or in some cases are, venerated as a deity. The sun and its rise and set are a very common worshiped deity across all the continents. But I bet you knew that already.