God: Real, or not?

I don't see that multiple gods are implicit here. As we do not know enough about god and what his limits are supposed to be, how can any evidence be taken to point to multiple gods? This simply boils down to what you think is a nice tidy solution, a personal opinion.
Of course it's an opinion. Nobody knows for sure if a god exists. It doesn't mean we can't discuss the different possibilities. I was under the impression that's what forums were for.

 
Of course it's an opinion. Nobody knows for sure if a god exists. It doesn't mean we can't discuss the different possibilities. I was under the impression that's what forums were for.
Absolutely! Welcome to the forum. Personally I have always thought of the Hindu concept of gods being quite practical, they seemed to have evolved new ones over time to fill every need and some of them generate an earthly avatar in a human body every now and then. They actually view Jesus as just such an avatar, nothing unique about him really..

 
For those who have a hard time believing there is a God, let me ask you something have you ever been near death, yet survived the situation? The reason I ask is it seems that those who have been near death seem to know at that point that there is a much higher power at work in the universe. I know someone who came close the dying back in 1997 and they told me that they felt a peace sweep over them the likes of which they had never known before. They just knew at that point that there was more then the world we were living in.

I also witnessed it in my own parents, both when their lives were coming to an end seem to have made peace and weren't afraid of what was coming. I also have a close friend whose father spent his whole life not believing in God, but becamse terminal toward the end of his life, he stunned her when he asked her to get him a priest because he wanted to be blessed before dying because he now knew God was waiting for him. I don't know what God truly is, but I do know that God does exist and is a higher force at work for the good of all living creatures.

 
Personal experiences can make the concept of a god real to some people. Some people ask God for help. If the help happens, can we thank the god or is it simply mind over matter, meaning, we manifest that which we want? That's something I ponder. I do believe in God, but I change my stance and opinion often the more I learn and experience. I still think there could be multiple gods, like a species. It just personally, in my most humble of opinions, find it odd to just have ONE of a certain being unless the other died.

Is god the universe or a conscious being? Is the universe conscious?

 
My opinion is we are all Gods in mortal form. I have been outside my body in a successful astral projection attempt. Consciousness outside my body is possible. The idea of an immortal soul is not that hard to accept, once astral projection has been achieved.

Think about how boring it would be to be a God. All seeing, and all knowing, forever. So the concept and creation of mortality may just be an entertaining pastime and escape from being a God. The purpose of life: Time off from being a God.

 
My opinion is we are all Gods in mortal form. I have been outside my body in a successful astral projection attempt. Consciousness outside my body is possible. The idea of an immortal soul is not that hard to accept, once astral projection has been achieved.Think about how boring it would be to be a God. All seeing, and all knowing, forever. So the concept and creation of mortality may just be an entertaining pastime and escape from being a God. The purpose of life: Time off from being a God.
What you call astral projection isn't actually consciousness outside one's body. The mind needs the brain to work. It doesn't work like that. You're basically just imagining you're outside your body.
I'll tell you what, next time you astral travel, right before you do it, ask someone to go to another room and write a few words on a piece of paper and leave it on the table. If you can then travel to that room and read the words and reproduce them when you wake up, then, man, you had just proved wrong everything we knew on the human brain.

 
Nicolas

If you are choosing to believe a preferred belief, then no amount of fact finding will convince you. So rather than believe what you are told, go find out for yourself.

 
NicolasIf you are choosing to believe a preferred belief, then no amount of fact finding will convince you. So rather than believe what you are told, go find out for yourself.
Oh no, it's quite the opposite. I'm not choosing a belief, but observing a fact. It is a fact that everything you feel, see, hear, touch goes through your brain. There's nothing pointing towards a conscience functioning away from a brain. That would go against all natural laws known to men up to today!
Not only that, but yes, one small evidence on the contrary would change my mind, absolutely. Not only mine but the whole scientific community. That's actually how science works. It follows the path of evidences. No matter what it is, and no matter how it contradicts what we already know. If evidence shows we were wrong, we change our minds. That's the opposite of belief.

I wasn't being sarcastic when I proposed that little experiment. If you're so certain you can have your mind working away from your brain, it would be that easy to prove it and change everything we know about the brain and, heck, everything else.

 
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When you believe fully in science, you cant seem to understand that there is a God but if you relate science to it then we can see that there is a God out there who created lots of mysteries on this outside world. There are lot of things that science cant explain and only God can. Not all science things are exact, its always good to keep an open mind

 
When you believe fully in science, you cant seem to understand that there is a God but if you relate science to it then we can see that there is a God out there who created lots of mysteries on this outside world. There are lot of things that science cant explain and only God can. Not all science things are exact, its always good to keep an open mind
If you believe in science, you're confused either about how science or beliefs work.
One does not "believe" in science. One understands it. Science is not an entity, it's a method. We, humans, use science to explain what we don't know yet. There used to be a LOT of things that we couldn't explain a few centuries ago, that only the current god available at the time was able to explain. Now we know how those things work. Through science. Through understanding, not believing.

 
For those who have a hard time believing there is a God, let me ask you something have you ever been near death, yet survived the situation? The reason I ask is it seems that those who have been near death seem to know at that point that there is a much higher power at work in the universe. I know someone who came close the dying back in 1997 and they told me that they felt a peace sweep over them the likes of which they had never known before. They just knew at that point that there was more then the world we were living in.I also witnessed it in my own parents, both when their lives were coming to an end seem to have made peace and weren't afraid of what was coming. I also have a close friend whose father spent his whole life not believing in God, but becamse terminal toward the end of his life, he stunned her when he asked her to get him a priest because he wanted to be blessed before dying because he now knew God was waiting for him. I don't know what God truly is, but I do know that God does exist and is a higher force at work for the good of all living creatures.
Your comments reminds me of one of these stories from this video I came across:



 
If you believe in science, you're confused either about how science or beliefs work.One does not "believe" in science. One understands it. Science is not an entity, it's a method. We, humans, use science to explain what we don't know yet. There used to be a LOT of things that we couldn't explain a few centuries ago, that only the current god available at the time was able to explain. Now we know how those things work. Through science. Through understanding, not believing.
Exactly but there are still LOTS of mysteries unsolved. There are lots of things science cant explain until now. I do believe there is Someone out there who created us limiting our knowledge about all the creations, because if we know .. we might overlap the power of that creator :D

 
Exactly but there are still LOTS of mysteries unsolved. There are lots of things science cant explain until now. I do believe there is Someone out there who created us limiting our knowledge about all the creations, because if we know .. we might overlap the power of that creator :D
Indeed, there are a lot of things we still don't know. How is that evidence for a god, though?

 
Your reply has to be one of the most intriguing I've read on this forum, lol. Care to elaborate?
lol, by any means I wanted to sound effensive. All I meant by that is that this guy's arguments are so bad, that they caused me a physical harm. I had to stop watching after he said that he has to believe in a god just because the Egyptians believed very strongly.The "this post gave me cancer" is a recurring anecdote on the interwebs.

This link tries to explain its origins.

 
lol, by any means I wanted to sound effensive. All I meant by that is that this guy's arguments are so bad, that they caused me a physical harm. I had to stop watching after he said that he has to believe in a god just because the Egyptians believed very strongly.The "this post gave me cancer" is a recurring anecdote on the interwebs.
This link tries to explain its origins.
Oh I see. I'd never heard of that expression before. I'm gonna have to remember to use that expression, when necessary, lol.
The only reason I posted the video is because one of the 3 personal stories the guy recounts, reminded me of what pafjlh had posted (about people being close to death).

 
As an addendum to RainmanTimes' post : The God? Thread covered more than just questioning the existence of God. The thread also presents as a premise that ancient writings contain hidden messages / knowledge and that there can be an evolution of theological - occult ideology into practical scientific foundations.

 
Indeed, there are a lot of things we still don't know. How is that evidence for a god, though?
Simple, if it cant be explain beyond human comprehension then there is Someone out there beyond having a brighter and perfect thinking who understands it - a God ..

 
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