Following John Titor

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Thanks to razimus and darby II for the feedback on our video - Where is John Titor
We didn't know there is so much to the Titor mythology! Alot of the information we came across "debunking" seems contradictory. We are heading to Celebration Florida for a follow up video. Does anyone have any tips, hints, suggestions for us?
 
eyesview,

Follow-up?

Sure - The Rick Haber part of the story appears to be on the right track. But there are a lot of loose ends. Was he somehow involved? There's a bit of evidence out there that suggests some sort of involvement. We've believed from the beginning that Titor was a computer geek and there's evidence that tends to support the belief. Rick Haber is apparently a computer geek and if the person listed on the Florida Dept of Corps site is the same Rick Haber then he is a computer geek. His name is associated with Larry Haber's PO Box and the John Titor Foundation. But that doesn't make him "Boomer" - the author of the story. We've believed from 2003 that Titor was closely associated with Larry Haber and maybe even a member of his family - assuming that Larry wasn't himself Titor. But there's no evidence anywhere that I can find indicating that Rick has ever had any interest in time travel or, specifically, John Titor...at least not using the handle "Rick Haber" or any permutation of the name.

What's missing is, as far as I can tell, no one has asked Rick Haber about any of this. If you want to follow-up, find a way to contact Rick Haber and interview him in person - on video if he allows it.
 
Don,

I think that over the past 10 years I've pretty well solidified my position on the topic of Titor's claim(s). Specific to this topic we haven't been arguing the validity of Titor's claims. The videographers attempted to film the location of "The PO Box" but chose the wrong Zip Code. I directed them to Zip Code 34747 (Celebration) where they would find the correct PO Box and also suggested that they could close some holes in Razimus' analysis by asking Rick Haber for an on camera interview.
 
I wonder if Rick Haber would do an interview ? That would be interesting.
Has any one bothered to even ask? I am going to ask Larry if he will come here and post.
 
There is something to be said for leaving the camera in the hotel room and asking around town in a casual way. There was the story of a couple of kids who said their fathers made up the tale using psychic predictions. Somebody off the map in Celebration may very well know something. Approach it like a detective and track down leads rather than interviewing experts, in which case you would end up with the traditional story. Somebody who hasn't been asked knows something.

Larry Haber could have let the story die, but he appeared on Coast-to-Coast AM, a national radio show, to give the preposterous interview by proxy with "Ma Titor." Thus, he has no grounds for claiming he is being harassed or put out. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif /ttiforum/images/graemlins/devil.gif
 
Thanks for the feedback everyone. Over the weekend Eyesview filmed our latest venture to Celebration, FL, which we are currently editing now. We should have it up soon, but in the mean time check out Where is John Titor? Video 2. It explains what we were hoping to find in Celebration.
 
Guys,

Thanks for the video. Good job so far.

What you really need to do is some online research. Try the Florida Dept of Corporations. The URL is http://sunbiz.org.

Search for VISI Corp. You'll find that they went under in 2008 and that their address was 606 Front Street, Celebration, FL 34747. You found the cut off notices for the utilities because they no longer are in business in Celebration. In any case, when looking for businesses the office of the Secretary of State is where you want to look. That office in every state is where corps and LLC's are housed. DBA's are sometimes found there but in many states that has to be found in the office of the County Clerk-Recorder where the business is located.
 
LARRY AND RICK HABER INTERVIEW- Monday August 8th!

Hello to all. It has been a while since we have posted on here. For those who have been following our Where is John Titor Videos on our blog, thanks for all your input and for watching. After going to celebration and calling Larry Haber -as seen in our previous post's video - a few weeks afterwards we received a voicemail from LARRY - http://www.eyesviewproductions.com/blog/2009/07/where-is-john-titor-video-4/

So today we wanted to post that we just recently got in contact with the man himself - LARRY HABER. Check out the latest video of our phone conversation with LARRY - http://www.eyesviewproductions.com/blog/2009/08/where-is-john-titor-video-5/.

We wanted to put the word out there to you timetravelinstitute folks that we have scheduled a sit down interview with larry AND his brother RICK HABER this coming monday AUGUST 8th. We did not expect to kill two birds with one stone but the stage is set to break some ground and cover any of the burning questions the titor community might have. SO THAT MEANS - send us the questions we should be asking the Habers! You all are the experts and have been doing this a lot longer than us, so help us by sending your questions for Larry and Rick to the e-mail below.

[email protected]

Larry has asked we submit some of of our questions prior to the interview. So we plan on doing that this coming Sunday evening August 9th. We again thank everyone in the anomalies.net community for all your help and guidance up to this point. It looks like so far it has paid off to get an audience with Larry. Let's do this! Hit us up.

-Eyesview-
 
Re: LARRY AND RICK HABER INTERVIEW- Monday August 8th!

eyesview,

Sure...

You might ask him, "As an officer of the Court, if you were asked under oath if it is true that you were originally contacted by another non-Florida attorney who claimed to be the attorney-in-fact for Mom Kay Titor could you honestly answer that question in the affirmative?

If you were asked, again under oath, if that attorney was a person with whom you attended law school and with whom you had had no contact for 25 years prior to the 2003 contact could you honestly answer in the affirmative?

If you answered the previous questions in the affirmative, could you honestly answer in the affirmative, under oath, that there was no collusion, prior agreement or plan of any sort between you and anyone else, or yourself alone, to make it appear that the out-of-the-blue contact with the attorney was a random act and a surprise to you?

Last, can you honestly state under oath that there is/are in fact principle owner(s) of the John Titor Foundation other than yourself and that at least one of them is a real person, a woman known to us as "Kay Titor"?"

Larry's statements as to how this all came about was that he was contacted out-of-the-blue by the non-Florida attorney, someone that he attended law school with but hadn't had any contact with since graduating, who was representing Mom Titor. The attorney asked him to set up the John Titor Foundation and run the business for Mom Titor. In other words, Larry's claim has been that he had nothing to do with anything involving John Titor other than being asked by the family attorney to do some grunt work in Florida for them. Larry says that he doesn't even know who Mom Titor is and has never had direct contact with her.
 
Re: LARRY AND RICK HABER INTERVIEW- Monday August 8th!

It seems patently obvious to me that there were more people than just Titor involved in the hoax.

By rights, the whole 'story' should have died at birth...with Titor being subjected to derision and proper scepticism and running off with his tail between his legs. End of story.

INSTEAD what you see is the suspiciously rapid emergence of a bunch of 'true believers'. Some are probably Titor sock puppets, but I suspect also that others are involved. Also, I suspect that without Pamela the story would have died a long time ago. Whether she is involved, or has been 'used' ( which is what I suspect ) is another matter.

It seems to me...the real question should be not so much who is John Titor ( let's face it..just another hoaxer )..but how the hell did so many people end up believing his BS.
 
Re: LARRY AND RICK HABER INTERVIEW- Monday August 8th!

INSTEAD what you see is the suspiciously rapid emergence of a bunch of 'true believers'.
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On this site, where it all began actually, there aren't even a half dozen "true believers" though you're correct, we are currently dealing with a few sock-puppet accounts. The ones that you might have seen who suddenly emerged are from Europe and specifically Italy where the RAI "Discover" episode on Titor ran a couple of years ago.
 
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