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[Roobyte]

Recently I was playing uno with my friends at the table, and then the whole environment started to seem strange to me, I just had 3 cards in my hand, as everything started to seem strange, then the cards became 4, I had an extra card in my hand, as well as weakness in my body, so I dropped it.

As an aside, the very sensation and impropriety of what was happening caused me cognitive dissonance. Nevertheless, I had already felt similar things several times in different periods of my life, but there it was just at random moments, in the bathhouse, on the street, at home on the bed, at some moments it seemed that the physics itself worked differently, and afterwards I realized that it had always been like that, but the very thought that it was not like that I remember, although the same dissonance causes that the physics as if it was not the one I was used to, but it passed quickly, literally in minutes. I decided to write about it here, maybe it's something not particularly scientific, although I don't believe in mysticism, but I'm agnostic, so I can believe it. I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have

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[TrapperND]

Recently I was playing uno with my friends at the table, and then the whole environment started to seem strange to me, I just had 3 cards in my hand, as everything started to seem strange, then the cards became 4, I had an extra card in my hand, as well as weakness in my body, so I dropped it.

As an aside, the very sensation and impropriety of what was happening caused me cognitive dissonance. Nevertheless, I had already felt similar things several times in different periods of my life, but there it was just at random moments, in the bathhouse, on the street, at home on the bed, at some moments it seemed that the physics itself worked differently, and afterwards I realized that it had always been like that, but the very thought that it was not like that I remember, although the same dissonance causes that the physics as if it was not the one I was used to, but it passed quickly, literally in minutes. I decided to write about it here, maybe it's something not particularly scientific, although I don't believe in mysticism, but I'm agnostic, so I can believe it. I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have

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Did you confirm your experience with the other card players at the table? Did they all acknowledge seeing your fourth card. If the game involved discarding cards, like in Eukre, did all the other players have only three cards in their hands?

 

[Num7]

I'm curious where that 4th card came from.

When it got in your hand, did it vanish from the pack? Or from another player's hand?

Or was the card created out of thin air, and now, there's a duplicate in the pack?

 

[Roobyte]

I'm curious where that 4th card came from.

When it got in your hand, did it vanish from the pack? Or from another player's hand?

Or was the card created out of thin air, and now, there's a duplicate in the pack?

It's more like a duplicate, although I think it's just a card from the deck, although it repeated the card on the right.

 

[Roobyte]

Did you confirm your experience with the other card players at the table? Did they all acknowledge seeing your fourth card. If the game involved discarding cards, like in Eukre, did all the other players have only three cards in their hands?

The other players saw my fourth card, of course, and I told them that I suddenly had a fourth card, even though it was just you, and I told them how I felt, but they ignored me and told me to put the card down. No, all players have their own number of cards, this is UNO, someone has scored, someone has already sat with one card

Did you confirm your experience with the other card players at the table? Did they all acknowledge seeing your fourth card. If the game involved discarding cards, like in Eukre, did all the other players have only three cards in their hands?

 

[Roobyte]

It's more like a duplicate, although I think it's just a card from the deck, although it repeated the card on the right.

In more detail, I didn't count the new number of cards, and I don't know how to calculate it, I don't remember exactly how my deck was, but about 381, after everything suddenly started to seem strange, another card appeared in my hand, and it became about 3881, while I definitely didn't take a card.

 

[TrapperND]

In more detail, I didn't count the new number of cards, and I don't know how to calculate it, I don't remember exactly how my deck was, but about 381, after everything suddenly started to seem strange, another card appeared in my hand, and it became about 3881, while I definitely didn't take a card.

was it a new deck you just bought? could in the manufacturing process two cards were stuck together, and when you grappled with them with your fingers, they came apart?

 

[Roobyte]

was it a new deck you just bought? could in the manufacturing process two cards were stuck together, and when you grappled with them with your fingers, they came apart?

No, we've been playing this deck for over a year now, and why would they be sticky? The fact is that not a single card was glued together. For me, the very appearance of an extra card in my hand was a surprise, and a moment of weakness gave rise to the fact that after that this card fell to the floor. Well, I also forgot to mention how it looked from my point of view and the observer's point of view. For me, it's like this:
Me: I'm sitting at the table and looking at my THREE cards
Me: A moment of weakness
Me: I focus my eyes on the cards, I notice that there are more of them, and I'm holding them like exactly four cards, no matter how convenient it would be to hold them
Another: A person is sitting with n cards, after n seconds there is confusion and misunderstanding on his face, he drops the card and picks it up, and asks if he always had four cards, they tell him that yes, and it's time to put the cards down.

Is everything clear? I just use a translator, I don't know English.

 

[TrapperND]

No, we've been playing this deck for over a year now, and why would they be sticky? The fact is that not a single card was glued together. For me, the very appearance of an extra card in my hand was a surprise, and a moment of weakness gave rise to the fact that after that this card fell to the floor. Well, I also forgot to mention how it looked from my point of view and the observer's point of view. For me, it's like this:
Me: I'm sitting at the table and looking at my THREE cards
Me: A moment of weakness
Me: I focus my eyes on the cards, I notice that there are more of them, and I'm holding them like exactly four cards, no matter how convenient it would be to hold them
Another: A person is sitting with n cards, after n seconds there is confusion and misunderstanding on his face, he drops the card and picks it up, and asks if he always had four cards, they tell him that yes, and it's time to put the cards down.

Is everything clear? I just use a translator, I don't know English.

They would have been printed on a single sheet of paper and then punched out. the die may not have punched completely through on some cards leaving them connected. it sometimes happens in mass manufacturing. Or, a plastic coating was sprayed on and it didn't fully dry. I do not know. But, you need to investigate all the realistic possibilities first before moving onto paranormal ones.

 

[Roobyte]

They would have been printed on a single sheet of paper and then punched out. the die may not have punched completely through on some cards leaving them connected. it sometimes happens in mass manufacturing. Or, a plastic coating was sprayed on and it didn't fully dry. I do not know. But, you need to investigate all the realistic possibilities first before moving onto paranormal ones.

I totally agree with you. It's also worth considering that I could also just take two cards at once and not notice it for some reason. But! I am absolutely sure that the cards have been used for a year now, and they are very battered, some even torn, they have been recalculated more than once, dozens of times, and again, my confidence starts from the fact that I have already held each card hundreds of times, yes, I understand, once you don't have to do it at once (our saying is, if a translator translates), that's why I dismiss and ignore the fact that they could be two in one, you just have to see them, you can't attach a photo here.

The second logical version would be that I took TWO cards myself at ONE time, but there are several dubious, but nevertheless logical refutations to this statement in my opinion (subjective obviously). Let's assume that I couldn't notice this (I had two cards, I took one card and didn't notice how I took the second one), I looked at the deck several times, I didn't notice, the cards were constantly in plain sight, all my friends also saw that I took a card and only one otherwise, there would be a return (we have a special rule, because of which, the more cards a person has, the more profitable it is for absolutely all players, if you need to clarify this point in more detail about our rules), in any case they were interested parties, and throughout the time no one noticed "the second card", more than once, my deck was looked at and asked for the number of cards and even checked (one of our rules for exchanging cards is with a card (7), the one who put this very card (7)), and no one noticed. To sum up, everyone saw and checked for me that I had exactly three cards, and it was at that moment when I had four cards and I objected to this, and I was told that there were FOUR of them, I was obviously blown away, but then I just ignored (they probably thought that I was joking or joking, they just laughed and didn't understand me), I continued to play just ignoring this fact, taking it for granted, which can be discussed later. Previously, I didn't pay much attention to the apparent strangeness in moments of weakness, throwing off various excuses, but when it directly touched my reality, I became much more interested in what it was, and whether it would get worse and worse, while there is no normal explanation, but the more time passes, the worse. I will remember this, but the memories are still very vivid, because of the shock and just the other day it happened.
Thank you for paying attention to such an ordinary and stupid reason like this, it just became very interesting for me because of a number of facts (huh, it would be even funnier if I told you one funny case from about this area (time), but closer to mysticism, if you are interested, then you can write to me in a telegram @Altair2239).

 

[TrapperND]

I am assuming you are in Finland, so I will try to write as closely as possible to Finnish grammer.

what we call reality has three levels.

The reality people know is their "schema". This is a model of the world your brain builds from your senses. The model is persevered over time. Your brain constantly corrects any mistakes found in the model. The schema is a subset of physical reality. Brains are not big enough to hold the entire universe. each person has to pick what is important to them. This is why people pay attention to different things than other people do.

Brains also have to guess at what is a mistake in the model. For example, you may always had four cards, but according to your model, you should only have three. Your brain changes what your senses say about four cards into three cards, which is what you become aware of. You cannot experience the fourth card. You become blind to it because of your schema.

The universe contains many other objects you are not aware of. Some of them even contradict each other. This is the middle level of reality. There are millions of manufactured UNO cards. You are aware of the ones you own, as if they are the only ones in the universe. But, there are enough UNO cards manufactured to make a pack of just UNO M.A.D cards. If you chose to go out and find enough of these, you could play a game of UNO where every player only holds UNO M.A.D. cards, which is contradictory to the game and true at the same time.

And, then there is the primary level of quantum reality, where every possibility of anything exists. These probabilities of existence project to the middle physical layer of the universe.

In primary reality, every variation of UNO exists. Some versions are like poker. Some versions are like Eukre. Most versions are like crazy-8s which UNO is based on. The weaker probabilities get cancelled out. The stronger probabilities of UNO make it to the middle tier. Primary reality only describes potentials of existence, with the strongest ones manifesting as real things in the upper two layers of reality.

All three layers interact all the time to produce each person's unique experience of objects and events

 

[Roobyte]

I am assuming you are in Finland, so I will try to write as closely as possible to Finnish grammer.

what we call reality has three levels.
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You don't have to bother with dialects, I'm from Russia.
Well, you have put a mixture of sciences into the explanation of reality, it resembles various three-layered realities of the definition of being in religion and philosophy, and also quantum, so also the unification of each individual, which refers to the theory of relativity, and I like it, an unusual way of looking at things. The rest is pretty obvious stuff.

As for the scheme of reality in each person's brain, what you described about ignoring the fourth card is very similar to "One-sided spatial ignoring", only in a narrower form, directed only at one card. Yes, I could ignore it, but then why was checking the number of cards by other participants approved in the form of three cards instead of four, while ignoring the existence of the card for a long time, and the feelings are quite strange, then why did I pay attention to it again, because I have the feeling of the fourth card, I don't think I could not feel within a minute, the fourth card, the body's reaction is more than enough to detect such a detail almost instantly or at least after a couple of seconds (I don't have any reaction problems, I'm pretty strong, and I'm not a "dumb jock", (100% academic performance), everything is fine with the reaction). According to the fact that everyone has their own idea of reality, I completely agree, my reality broke at the moment of the fourth card :/

 

[TrapperND]

You don't have to bother with dialects, I'm from Russia.
Well, you have put a mixture of sciences into the explanation of reality, it resembles various three-layered realities of the definition of being in religion and philosophy, and also quantum, so also the unification of each individual, which refers to the theory of relativity, and I like it, an unusual way of looking at things. The rest is pretty obvious stuff.

As for the scheme of reality in each person's brain, what you described about ignoring the fourth card is very similar to "One-sided spatial ignoring", only in a narrower form, directed only at one card. Yes, I could ignore it, but then why was checking the number of cards by other participants approved in the form of three cards instead of four, while ignoring the existence of the card for a long time, and the feelings are quite strange, then why did I pay attention to it again, because I have the feeling of the fourth card, I don't think I could not feel within a minute, the fourth card, the body's reaction is more than enough to detect such a detail almost instantly or at least after a couple of seconds (I don't have any reaction problems, I'm pretty strong, and I'm not a "dumb jock", (100% academic performance), everything is fine with the reaction). According to the fact that everyone has their own idea of reality, I completely agree, my reality broke at the moment of the fourth card :/

Not trying to medically assess you. What you are reporting is similar to a lot similar phenomena. When you boil a lobster by putting it in a pot of cold water. The lobster feels the heat rising but can't do anything. Instead, it's brain filters out the heat as an error. The central nervous system of a lobster has the same problem, it has no window to look outside to see what is going on. It has to work off of an internal model.
Most people who drive a car do not realize right away they have a flat tire. The steering wheel my start to shake, the car start to drift, the sound the tires make is different. But, their minds override those as errors and discard the observations as if they do not exist.

 

[Darby]

impropriety, cognitive dissonance

I think those terms, which play a key role in your original post, were poorly translated from Russian to English. They are non sequitur to the overall context of the post, at least on their face. Impropriety means improper. Did you mean that the other players might have thought you were cheating because you had four cards? I can't glean a context that involves cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is distress caused by holding multiple beliefs about some situation where those beliefs conflict with each other and are not self-consistent. If that's what you were trying to describe what were the conflicting beliefs?

According to the fact that everyone has their own idea of reality, I completely agree, my reality broke at the moment of the fourth card

Again, this may be a translation issue. I personally can't see in a person who does not have underlying mental health issues as having their reality shattered over a card in a game of Uno. Having the fourth card can be explained by a misdeal, sticky cards or even your friends playing a joke on you. If it were me my first option would not be to assume it is reality shattering confusion. You said it is an old deck so at a minimum the cards have body oil on them. Do you or your friends eat snacks or drinks while playing? More oil, sugar, etc. to sticky up the cards a bit more. What I can assure you is the answer isn't "the physics itself worked differently". Even the slightest change in the physical laws of the universe would be disastrous; you wouldn't be concerned about an extra Uno card - and that assumes that you still exist to not be concerned. So don't worry about the physics.

As to "everyone has their own idea of reality" to a tiny degree that might be true but people in general view reality quite similarly. If that weren't the case simple inter-personal communication would be rather difficult, right? If my view of reality is different than yours we wouldn't have a common basis to describe, events, things, ideas or situations to each other in a conversation. It would be similar to each of the ~8 billion people on earth speak 8 billion unique languages. But no one speaks more than one language and they don't have the capacity to teach their language or learn someone else's language. That about sums up what "everyone has their own idea of reality" means.

 

[Darby]

As to "everyone has their own idea of reality" to a tiny degree that might be true but people in general view reality quite similarly. If that weren't the case simple inter-personal communication would be rather difficult, right? If my view of reality is different than yours we wouldn't have a common basis to describe, events, things, ideas or situations to each other in a conversation.

If you have doubts about the quoted statement here's the proof of the pudding. Try having a logical conversation with a paranoid schizophrenic who is off his or her medication. Aside from them actively hallucinating just listen to the logic flow of the conversation or more precisely the lack thereof. Their view of reality will be far different than yours because they are suffering from severe mental health issues. they are the exception to the rule but also an example of what the result is if everyone has their own private view of reality.

Just a caveat - don't push the conversation to where you are confusing them. That's cruel and they could lash out in fear and someone could get hurt.