Time-travel Paradoxes!

Mr. TT_0,

Let us assume you are a time traveller. I do not see any viable way for you to return to your own time line then. I say this because that you mentioned the difficulty with time travel in the sense of divergences. You said that you travelled back in time from 2036 to 1975 with a ~1-2% divergence. You also mentioned that in your time frame a 0% divergence is sort of a myth, i.e technologically improbable. Now if I understand your plan, you say you will once again travel back to 1975 before you arrived and then go forward as to avoid going into the future of our time line, which by your presence here would be an alternate future from your own. But what I would ask is, if you plan to go back to 1975 from 2000, you should incur a certain non-zero percent divergence just as you did going from 2036 to 1975. I would surmize that it is impossible or technologically improbable for you to go back to the exact world line you departed from then. Even if you are able to travel back with a 0% divergence, which by your previous words would be mythological, what would ensure you that the future you travelled into was exactly the world line you left. Since there are an infinite number of possible world lines departing from 1975 into the future. I suppose the key point of this argument is that any trip through time with your technology would result in a non-zero divergence, and in order for you to arrive in your own world line you must create a 0% divergent trip. This is amusing in the sense that the harder you try to get to your own world line the more divergences you incur and hence the furthur away you get. I believe I see the birth of a new temporal paradox.

 
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I will be glad to double space and set up my

postings in paragraph form. Anything to make

my postings easier to understand.

cheers from rainy california,he he.

Edwin G. Schasteen

 
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OH great. good going guys! now we will have a whole page of just rgrunt's postings,double and tripled spaced with seperating topics and paragraphs and chapter numbers! HAHA

just joking,Rgrunt your postings are very interesting.

TTO-thankyou for answering my questions.

 
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Hey Everyone!! While I've been following this thread from the beginning and even conveyed a few thoughts on the topic matter as it evolved, I have been, for the most part, been following the topic discussion to TTO's answers to everyones questions. I have come to a couple conclusions. First of all I want to commend TTO for provoking much thoughtfull and insightfull discussion on, even the probability much less the possability that what he says is true. And I would like to commend those that treated this topic discussion with respectful scrutiny and thought provoking questions for TTO. I understand that for TTO to reveal himself as a time traveler in this timeline on this board was a matter of great risk on his part and I commend him for it!! Who are we to say he's not for real!!! Being a Druid MAGI I've also conveyed thoughts and realities that have fallen upon great scrutiny and rightly so. It is when we stop asking how and why that we are truely doomed as a race!! We have to open our minds and get peoples heads out of the sands of disbelief and ignorance, only then can we truely be ready for the next level, as a race. Individually, some are already at the doorway of the next level!! As a race there's too much hate and greed for this to happen on an evolutionary scale for a while. That is a sad state of affairs!!

As far as I'm concerned, GODSPEED TTO!!!!

Respectably,

Draco the Druid

 
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That was funny,

Now that I will be double spacing my posts

this string should be twenty pages long

within the next couple of days making

everyone think that there is something

really interesting being discussed on this

string. Just one question, once this string

of pages is long enough to be a book who

reserves the right to become a million-uhh-I

mean author of the book?

Ha Ha!

Edwin G. Schasteen

 
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rgrunt,

the double spacing is not needed..just add a space inbetween ideas..

Draco,

your a druid?a friend of mine is Wiccan...their like ancient hippies

FastWalker2

"May you be Enlightened"--....

 
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anyone know whats the best time travel device out there and where i can purchase one? also anyone know where i can locate any interdimensional portals in alabama, i live in birmingham, alabama.. .... mg

 
Draco2,

that is amazing. I read a book entitled "Druids" by an Irish female author, I don't remember the name. The story was set back in roman times and was based on the early life of a chief druid by the name Ainvar...meaning 'one who travels far'.

The events in the story were centered around the conflict between celts and the romans. The story finishes off with the defeat of the celts by the romans in one fantastic battle.

I was going to ask if you have ever heard of the story of Ainvar in the order? Is this a true story based on history or is it just a fictional book?

inquistively,

Edwin G. Schasteen

p.s. Is this ok for double spacing?

 
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Hey RGUNT!! Actually I believe I may have read the same book you did.. I don't have the book anymore and it's been along time since I read it... The final battle resulted in the Celtic Cheiftain being put in chains and taken back to rome, where the drug him through the streets and stuck what was left of him on a pig pole... As far as a Druid from the Order named Ainvar it sounds familar but the true spellings of names was fully contingent on what language you are using....

~ Draco

 
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The Book touched My Life in a way that only Great Books can!!!!!!!!

HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!

~Draco

 
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whats wrong enforcer of time,

bored without timetraveler_0? are you going to advocate against this now?

 
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You must be a TT_0 follower .

Hey, whatever your religious beliefs are is none of my business. I can care less what you are, as long as you don't mess with the Time Line.

I may not believe in the same thing as you do, I may even think it's wrong. But that is not an important thing in my life to fight about right now.

Well maybe if it was a cult, that would be different. But you people are harmless , so I have no problem with you.

Just don't mess with the Time Line, and I'm happy.

Sincerely yours,

Javier C.

 
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EoF,

i dont see why you campaign on about affecting the time line,when you know that anybody in their right mind would do so.

in a multiverse of infinite possibilities,

if someone feels like they should have been a bus driver instead of an astrophysicist,then by all means quit your job and buy a bus...

im not a TT_0 fan,nor a soothsayer,but theres no use telling the people here about such nonsense...i heard this in some movie a while back: "your destiny is yours.you cant change it,but you can rise up to meet it."

some words of wisdom from an eccentric soul.

FastWalker2

 
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Javier.C,

Does it look like i just jumped right in and answered?

i barely have enough time these days!

Followers?! "As if he was some God?"

I gotta tell you Javier.C, you sound as if you want the entire world to know how much you hate time travel and anyone from there.

Well, guess what. Your a time traveller too.

Think about it.

Just because someone comes from a few years in front doesn't mean you have to slam them into oblivion. What if i was a T.traveller and i came from 3 seconds into the future?

What then? Would you still "Fight for its preservation?" then?

These days,you dont know what to believe anymore. If he is from 2036 and there is a war coming , Im sorry but you'll be eating your words. On the other side, if T-T-O is full of it and is only here to promote this forum's hits well then i stand corrected.

T-T-O is not my friend, nor does he wish to be. Weve never seen each other and probably never will. Anyway, with the information he has given us, i guess the damage has already been done for all of us wouldn't you agree??

I take in oppinions, equations, theories and any information regarding any subject and formulate my own thoughts on the given subject. I dont think he is a God for giving this information, heck, he could be an employee of the U.S government here to find out what the population thinks of T.T! We could all be test subjects. Who's to say we are not?

If time travel is possible ten million years from now, it will still be possible. Who is to say that humans are not visiting this exact time? You can't stop time travel, it is inevitable.

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OPEN YOUR MIND

P.Light

 
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Fast,

Perhaps somewhere deep in that eccentric soul of yours, you could perhaps muster up a little compassion to understand that there are still some people in this world who want to help and protect us.

If someone where to break into your home in the middle of the night, who would you want to come in to help you?

If you see someone in dying need of medical attention, wouldn't you feel obligated to help, and if you did who would you call?

Problems like these will always exist in any universe. I agree with you on that?

But is it really so wrong with wanting to stop criminals from violating our rights?

We have Cops out there doing their hardest making sure the streets are safe for you and me. We have EMT's ready to be dispatched to save your life if you broke your neck or fallen off a tree or something.

Crime is everywhere, and will always be there. So are we to just accept it and turn our backs on it?

That's so easy to do. Yet there are some people in this society that would rather not have to live through a world like this.

And that's where I believe that the same measures to protect people, should also be implemented to Time Travel. If you violate someone, you must pay. Simple as that.

Did I make my self clear Fastwalker 2, or am I to apologize to you too for having morals, like I did to TT_0?

Truly,

Javier C.

 
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Open your mind, huh? Sounds more like you'd let the bigger boys pick on you and have their way because there's nothing to be done.

I don't want to say what you sound like to me.

Because it's all pretty obvious, isn't it?

I gotta go, I have a load of laundry to do.

-J.C.

 
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