Teleporting to travel through time?

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Whirlwind

Temporal Novice
Teleporting something is basically moving an object from point A to B without physically moving said object.

When you want to teleport something you have to scan it (Point A) so that you take all the information from it, then this information is transmitted to the receiving location (Point B). This info is used to make the copy or replica. This copy is not necessarily from the same material of the original object, but from the same kinds of material, arranged in the same pattern as the original. This makes it more of a three dimensional fax machine then a teleportation. Which means the original is destroyed in the process of teleporting the object.

I feel that if we could store objects information for an indefinite amount of time, we could essentially travel to the future, by simply creating the replica in the year desired. Granted this is not the idealistic form of time travel, but I feel the idea is plausible.

Perhaps in time, we could even develop a teleportation device that could transmit something/someone through time itself, sending objects and peoples to the past or even the future, by teleporting them via the layers of the universe.

I feel this may be possible, because the universe is made up of many layers and dimensions which roll into the shape of a bagel. If we can teleport through our own dimension, what is to say we couldn’t ever teleport through different dimensions?

All we would have to do is pin point a dimension whose present is set to the time in which we wish to travel.
 
You need to read the book and watch the movie Time Line.

Same principle, with a quantum computer they scan and store every single bit of information about a persons body. Every atom, all of their DNA, etc etc. They then destory the original and teleport it to another place. However in the book/movie they end up teleporting through Time as well.

If you have not seen movie or read the book I am impressed with your understanding of quantum mechanics... Please share with us more.
 
I haven't read the book or seen the movie, but I'm interested in them now that I know about it. I have however been researching teleportation, and I started to speculate that this could be a way in which we travel through time in the future. I wouldn't say I have much of an understanding in quantum mechanics, I was never very interested in mathematics, and to be honest it was not my strongest subject in school. But while reading up on some of these topics, it all just kind of 'clicked' and things just made sense.

I'm really happy I have found a place to share this idea with, as my family gets about three seconds into it, and then they give me that “I have no clue what you're talking about” face.

Really my whole theory is based in teleportation. The biggest problem being that when matter is scanned so deeply, it is disturbed. But I did find that scientists back in the early 90’s discovered a way to get around this problem. They scan part of the information from an object, while allowing the un-scanned info to pass (The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen effect), into another object which never made contact with the first object. The reason again being that the first object was disrupted by being scanned so deeply, so its no longer in the state it was before it was scanned.

The Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen effect: basically explains (or as best I can understand it) that if a particle at rest has a spin zero. It spontaneously decays into two fermions, which stream in opposite directions. If one particle is detected, and its spin is then measured, then the other particle -- no matter where it is in the universe is forced to take on the role of the other particle.

So, you’d have to manipulate the second object into exactly the same state as the first object was in before it was scanned. Using the information from both objects you could then, theoretically make an exact replica of the original.

Then, in order to travel through time in our own dimension we would have to store the information, and replicate the object at a given time (minutes, days… years later).

To travel through time/space (we want to go to lets say 1900), we would have to develop a way to track the other dimensions, and then develop a way to open a wormhole to a dimension whose present time is set to the year 1900.

To better explain is that our dimension is set in the present of ‘2005’. There is a dimension that is set a year ago, or five minutes ago. I suppose there are an infinite number of dimensions, because as each moment passes there is a dimension where that moment is still the present. Also, for that matter, you could say we are another dimension’s past, because there are surely dimensions whose present are set to 2006, 07, 08…

How the wormhole works is beyond me at the moment. I think I will start researching it next. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
You might not even need a wormhole... Bear in mind that quantum teleportation is instantenous. And Einstein's Relativity gives us a ready-made way to transform "instantenous travel" into genuine time travel: Simply teleport the object off a spaceship moving at near-light velocity, over a distance comparable to the time (to travel 10 years into the past, you'll need a distance of about 10 light-years).
 
I suppose that's true. But would it work to break between the dimentions? I'm working under the theory that the only way to go back ten years would be to go to a dimention whose present time is set at 1995. I was under the impression that the only access one could have to another dimention was through a wormhole, obviously once a wormhole was located you would need some way of transmitting the information through...

Like I said, I'm not great at this stuff, I'm kind of learning as we speak - heh. So feedback, and comments like you guys have given me are great. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Okay I know I made this thread a long freaking time ago, but I figure there is no point in me starting a new thread about the same thing. Anyways, I have been revising my thoughts on teleportation - and I think I have come to the conclusion that this would be the only way to successfully travel forward in time, as well as back. Although, forward I think would be easier.

On a similar and interesting note:

I have read fairly recently that the entire universe – as we perceive it – is basically a hologram. An image made entirely of light. Now, you can manipulate light, you can bend it, you can splice it… what are your thoughts on this? Do you feel that this may have some helpful clues to breaking into the fourth dimension (time).
 
“I suppose there are an infinite number of dimensions, because as each moment passes there is a dimension where that moment is still the present.”
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Very accurate. I was explaining this phenomenon with the Schrödinger’s cat experiment. It could be a possible solution to the incompleteness of the quantum mechanics.
 
Very accurate. I was explaining this phenomenon with the Schrödinger’s cat experiment. It could be a possible solution to the incompleteness of the quantum mechanics.
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Then, wouldn't also be true then that there is no past and no future, only the present?
 
Then, wouldn't also be true then that there is no past and no future, only the present?
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This has to be described with respect to the observer. There is past, present and future for each observer and they exist eternally without an end. Which means death is not an end for a person. The observer regains consciousness as he is reborn/resurrected as himself in another worldline.
 
Well, a recent article had some physicists view about that. According to the view, the future is open, but once the decision is made in the Past, then there is the fact that the Past can not be changed, and it does affect the future decisions one can make, and to me it would limit the future.

If you get behind the driver's wheel of your vehicle in the Past and start driving, then in the future there is only a set of decisions one could make. Pull over quit driving, continue to drive, but each decision made in the Past makes a new set of decisions one has to use for the future, unless a tire blows or the engine malfunctions and other steps have to be taken, which is still a minor set of decisions that may have to be made.

So teleportation would depend on the decision in the Past and traveling through time that way may not allow as many decisions as one might think then.

Again, it depends on the set of physics laws that appear us mere humans have to use. We can imagine more yet then we can possibly do.
 
This has to be described with respect to the observer. There is past, present and future for each observer and they exist eternally without an end. Which means death is not an end for a person. The observer regains consciousness as he is reborn/resurrected as himself in another worldline.
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Interesting. Now, is this rebirth instantaneous, or does it occur gradually over time? Because if it is instantaneous then I would assume that we could be aware in all world lines at the same time. If it occurs over time, then wouldn't it be more like only one world line could exist at a time? So one would have to die to travel into another world line. But there would be no memory of the prior world?
 
I think it would be impossible to be reborn...infact I'm not even convinced about Schrödinger’s cat....observers come and go...I agree...but what about the exponential growth rate...aren't there more observers in "this" world than there ever were before? and where do the "new" ones come from...certainly some of the same matter from the deceased makes it's way into our bodies through foods and things of that sort...is each "world" progressively getting more and more full of observers? or just this one? I'm sure there's a counter balance right? that would be convenient for justifying the theory...like some other reality is getting fewer and fewer observers to make room for our reality to get more and more...but as einstein said...the univers is a cup of water filled to the brim...nothing can be added or it will overflow, in so many words....so we must be swapping particles....observing is just a byproduct of conscienceness...part of you may regain conscienceness again...in some other form....but it would not be the same...or continuous...so it sounds more like your saying your conscience is going into another world, which sounds a bit like religion...remember conscience needs life to exists, as far as we can tell, it is not a soul...it does not live on.....
and for the teleporting to another area or time....if you wanted to go back to 1900...wouldn't you need a reciever on the other end? otherwise if you shot the "info" through a wormhole like a slingshot you would just be tumbling hoping you landed in a safe spot...
 
ok now with the decisions...I like how you used that word instead of choice....I think choice implies free will...and I think it very much appears as though we do have a free will....but think about this
say there was a big bang...just so we have a point of creation....everything that was set in motion the instant the big bang occurred would dictate the next instant's "options", that would in turn cause a tumbling effect that could say "everything that will happen after that has no choice it must comply with the past events in order to follow the laws of our physical reality"
everyday we are faced with many options and many decisions are made...but did we really have a choice? it all comes down to the mental "scale" we use to balance our options...here's a situation.....you approach a cliff and are asked to jump off.....you now have options and a decision to make...granted there are more options but I will narrow it down so this doesn't turn into a book....you can either...A) jump off the cliff....or B) not jump off the cliff....now decision A and B will both be based on your knowledge of the the result(or lack of knowledge for that matter)....and your knowledge of the result will be based on the past...what you know about the how far a human can fall before dying, what people have told you the outcome could be, what you have seen in similar situations and weather or not you believe them, and weather you would rather live...or die...and the variable for the completely isolated human....how far you curiosity will take you...based on what you have learned about your curiosity and it's results.....
now this will create a mental "balance" with choice A and B on opposite sides of the scale...whichever "weighs" more (we will say more "wins" and is the decision made) based on the given consiquense. every decision in the universe...even split second ones...based on instict...have everything to do with everything you learned...or didn't learn....and everything you learned and didn't learn is based on everyone and everything that surrounds you and what they learned in the past....

did that make sense?
 
in response to the driver and his options:

the options are already there...whatever would influence the driver to pull over or not...is already going to happen because everything is in motion...including whatever caused the driver to pull over,including all the other travelers and their idea of where they are going, and what they have learned/experienced or have not learned or experienced, if the flat tire happened the tire was in such a condition to "pop" or whatever was run over was set in motion to be in the path of the driver, whatever the decisions the driver made to run over the hypothetical nail were all a tumbling effect of what had happened an instant ago, which was an effect of what had happened the instant before that...so they're not really new options...in a sense they're the only options that could have happened.....and if we had much more intelligent minds we could possibly even predict the motions about to happen, based on the past motions....the problem with predictions is that EVERYTHING in the universe...no matter how small, is "flowing" simultaniously in perfect unison according to the time "now" so you would have to take into consideration every single variable in the universe and all it's past influences and calculate it instantly in order to correctly predict the future...but it IS possible...without a human mind anyway...the only thing that contradicts this is quantum realities and possibilities...but I think this very theory of "mine"...if ever proven true could possibly disprove quantum mechanics....
or maybe I'm just jumping in too deep for my uneducated pants
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NoTime323 - You have a lot of really interesting thoughts and ideas. I wish was not as tired right now, I will look at this more deeply tomorrow and respond better.
 
Now, is this rebirth instantaneous, or does it occur gradually over time? Because if it is instantaneous then I would assume that we could be aware in all world lines at the same time.
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I think this rebirth is not instantaneous. Consider it this way. You time Travel to meet yourself two years before and come back. After you die, you are reborn and you meet yourself from the Future.

If it occurs over time, then wouldn't it be more like only one world line could exist at a time?
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It is your consciousness which experiences time. That makes it look like a single worldline. But I think actually we are living in multiverses. The number of times we are dead and reborn is infinite. Of course, you cannot feel anything after Death or you can know anything before your Birth.

I think this concept should be true for Time Traveling to be possible. We are actually traveling to the past to meet people who are dead.
 
I dont think barrowing another mans underarm deoterant, is really that big of a sin.\

On voip and blue tooth.

Yes I think they can both be hacked.
 
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