HI could someone work out,what is needed in equipment and money to replicate the philadelphia ex on a smaller scale?.Say from a ship size to a one person size.What amount of power ,and to phase shift the magnetic field, would a magnetron oscillator work.Also how big would a delta t antenna have to be? ... al /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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timetravelroomie
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Well,
To put mildly, to recreate the experiment. You are going to need to follow directions...
1. You will need a craft that is metal. No fiberglass here. You can use a good carbon composite material. But no fiberglass,wood,etc.
2. Please remember, copper wire, copper wire, copper wire. Also, a good insulation is required. It is an excellent conductor of energy. ( Do not use a structore made of copper, however. You want energy to flow through pre assigned areas, not through the structure. )
3. You want a high frequency generator, and a solid "fuse" chamber. Do not use standard circut breakers. You want a fuse to blow if it gets an over charge. Not just shut itself down which could lead to an energized backlash.
4. Three, I repeat three fuse based power controls.
Ok, lets get started shall we? First things first. Outside of the normal mass displacement which the effects of this practice can produce, there are some side effects I am sure you which to avoid. First line your cabin with lead sheeting. This can be purchased online or in some home improvment centers. Line as much of the passenger cabin as possible. You and any passengers that travel with you will thank you later. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Now, the outside the craft, please wrap atleast 50% of the copper wire around the hull. This will be known as wiring pattern A. Make sure this wrap is basiclly in the pattern of bow to stern, and stern to bow. This is to be the main wrap, and you should have atleast 128 passes of wire. And please make sure the gauge is fitting for the size of craft. (Don't use "speaker size" wire unless you plan to use more the affore stated 128 passes. The smaller the wire, the more passes you will need make. )
Now wrap the other 50% around from front to back. But this time go in a "around the hull" method. Wraping from port, to top to starboard to keel and back to port. You will need to cris-cross the wires when working from bow to stern and cros them when working to the bow. This should be known as wiring pattern B.
When working the wires, make sure you have the leads end or begin the "engine room" or whereever you designate the place for the generator and fuse control.
The controls will be simple. When wiring the generator. You will need to divide the leads. You should have to leads for positive, and two leads for negative.
The leads should be wired into the pasenger cabin. Label one power control as master. To the master feed one pos and one neg into it. Then wire this set up to wiring patter A. Take another power power control and hook it to the positive power lead that is connected to one end of wiring pattern B, then repeat this process with the third power control only this time attach to the negative, and attach to the opposite end of wiring pattern B.
Now obviously, wire the passenger chamber with the approriate guages, such as fuel, temp, etc.
Once you have completed the craft. Load yourself, supplies, and or passangers. To operate the craft is quite simple. You don't need to be on water. You may use a field or wherever you deem fit. However, remember the less objects around the craft, the less chance of an accident.
When ready, engage the power on the generator. Make sure the generator is warmed and ready and up to full power before engaging the power to the master control. Slowly turn up the power, once you have started to reach the event horizon of the "matter slip" you should have a green gas buildup on the outside of the craft. If the air inside becomes greenish in color, don't be alarmed. As this is mearly making the air charged. Next engage the positive and negative controls. Please bear in mind, no more then 8% difference on each control at a time, as this will lead to ripping the space/time barrier wider then can be controled. Once you have achived 100% on the neg. and pos. You are ready to slip into the cross dimensional field. By decresing positive, you have allowed the negative to become the dominate charge to the field. And therefore you will reverse the time field. By decresing the negative, you have infact, applied more postive, and subsequently force the craft forward into time.
When arriving in the time period you feel is best. Turn down the master control. And deactivate the generator.
Please be prepared to hide craft in the time period you have traveled too. If in a period after 1955, it is easier to explain the craft off as a "science fictrion, movie prop" before said date, it is best to keep ones craft well hidden from outside eyes.
Have fun /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Brick.
To put mildly, to recreate the experiment. You are going to need to follow directions...
1. You will need a craft that is metal. No fiberglass here. You can use a good carbon composite material. But no fiberglass,wood,etc.
2. Please remember, copper wire, copper wire, copper wire. Also, a good insulation is required. It is an excellent conductor of energy. ( Do not use a structore made of copper, however. You want energy to flow through pre assigned areas, not through the structure. )
3. You want a high frequency generator, and a solid "fuse" chamber. Do not use standard circut breakers. You want a fuse to blow if it gets an over charge. Not just shut itself down which could lead to an energized backlash.
4. Three, I repeat three fuse based power controls.
Ok, lets get started shall we? First things first. Outside of the normal mass displacement which the effects of this practice can produce, there are some side effects I am sure you which to avoid. First line your cabin with lead sheeting. This can be purchased online or in some home improvment centers. Line as much of the passenger cabin as possible. You and any passengers that travel with you will thank you later. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Now, the outside the craft, please wrap atleast 50% of the copper wire around the hull. This will be known as wiring pattern A. Make sure this wrap is basiclly in the pattern of bow to stern, and stern to bow. This is to be the main wrap, and you should have atleast 128 passes of wire. And please make sure the gauge is fitting for the size of craft. (Don't use "speaker size" wire unless you plan to use more the affore stated 128 passes. The smaller the wire, the more passes you will need make. )
Now wrap the other 50% around from front to back. But this time go in a "around the hull" method. Wraping from port, to top to starboard to keel and back to port. You will need to cris-cross the wires when working from bow to stern and cros them when working to the bow. This should be known as wiring pattern B.
When working the wires, make sure you have the leads end or begin the "engine room" or whereever you designate the place for the generator and fuse control.
The controls will be simple. When wiring the generator. You will need to divide the leads. You should have to leads for positive, and two leads for negative.
The leads should be wired into the pasenger cabin. Label one power control as master. To the master feed one pos and one neg into it. Then wire this set up to wiring patter A. Take another power power control and hook it to the positive power lead that is connected to one end of wiring pattern B, then repeat this process with the third power control only this time attach to the negative, and attach to the opposite end of wiring pattern B.
Now obviously, wire the passenger chamber with the approriate guages, such as fuel, temp, etc.
Once you have completed the craft. Load yourself, supplies, and or passangers. To operate the craft is quite simple. You don't need to be on water. You may use a field or wherever you deem fit. However, remember the less objects around the craft, the less chance of an accident.
When ready, engage the power on the generator. Make sure the generator is warmed and ready and up to full power before engaging the power to the master control. Slowly turn up the power, once you have started to reach the event horizon of the "matter slip" you should have a green gas buildup on the outside of the craft. If the air inside becomes greenish in color, don't be alarmed. As this is mearly making the air charged. Next engage the positive and negative controls. Please bear in mind, no more then 8% difference on each control at a time, as this will lead to ripping the space/time barrier wider then can be controled. Once you have achived 100% on the neg. and pos. You are ready to slip into the cross dimensional field. By decresing positive, you have allowed the negative to become the dominate charge to the field. And therefore you will reverse the time field. By decresing the negative, you have infact, applied more postive, and subsequently force the craft forward into time.
When arriving in the time period you feel is best. Turn down the master control. And deactivate the generator.
Please be prepared to hide craft in the time period you have traveled too. If in a period after 1955, it is easier to explain the craft off as a "science fictrion, movie prop" before said date, it is best to keep ones craft well hidden from outside eyes.
Have fun /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Brick.
reactor1967
Quantum Scribe
If my understanding on the experiment is correct the goal was to bend light around the ship and several generators were used. It is my belief that each generator represented one dimension of space-time and that all of them together was enough to manipulate time and space and cause the ship to disappear and travel in time. Which was not the goal of the experiment but the outcome. If true then this experiment went on to be developed in scecret. It has parallels to Johns work in canada where he caused a 60 pound bowling ball to float and wood and metal to melt toether without burning or heating any thing. But he always had a very difficult time recreating the experiment because I guess he did not log and record what he was doing. He used at least a million to several million volts. You will need a lot of voltage and at the level of power you will be using one mistake using too much current with the voltage and get into it and you will be cooked good. Also that kind of power can jump out and bite you. Also, that kind of voltage in a electric magnet can grab things. I once saw a forlift pulled into one of those machines that doctors use to look inside of people. I forgot what they called it. Anyway I guess you get the picture. I would start with using a static electricty generator with a tesla coil and feed that into your experiment. You will have technical challenges and if your serious you can over come them. You may or will need more equipment than what I mentioned here depending on what your doing. Sure you can try a simple small experiment that is probably the best way to go but personally I don,t thing anything will happen till you get into at least the million(s) of voltage high frequency range. Good luck.
reactor1967
Quantum Scribe
Yep, those pictures made the point pretty good. And thanks for filling in the blanks for me. A MRI I had forgotten what it was called.
Angleochoas
Quantum Scribe
Watched a program on something akin to the discovery channel doing a documentary on this a few years ago.
What stuck in my mind was the old navy vet that sat there in obvious mental pain when telling about the fusing of metal and bodies.
I can tell when someone is lieing, and when someone is cloudy on details.
Neither was the case. He still had a great sense of pride & honor.
His body was failing but the mind was sharp.
The old school don't give up a life time of friends and reputation on a whim.
I'd love to know what really went on there but I doubt that will ever happen.
Then there's the Univ Prof that got the call from the Navy, and ended up killing himself years later. That just adds a 'huh'? factor.
RMT got any insight on this one? ^^
(Notice I didn't even add the name 'Tesla' yet
)
What stuck in my mind was the old navy vet that sat there in obvious mental pain when telling about the fusing of metal and bodies.
I can tell when someone is lieing, and when someone is cloudy on details.
Neither was the case. He still had a great sense of pride & honor.
His body was failing but the mind was sharp.
The old school don't give up a life time of friends and reputation on a whim.
I'd love to know what really went on there but I doubt that will ever happen.
Then there's the Univ Prof that got the call from the Navy, and ended up killing himself years later. That just adds a 'huh'? factor.
RMT got any insight on this one? ^^
(Notice I didn't even add the name 'Tesla' yet
Angleochoas
Quantum Scribe
NM, I spent a good hour searching google to find that old vet, or some reference to him.
Nada, zilch.
Just lots of conspiracy crap.
Nada, zilch.
Just lots of conspiracy crap.
Packerbacker
Quantum Scribe
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Angleochoas
Quantum Scribe
What I had been referring to wasn't "al bielek" but an actual old vet on a TV interview.
Apparently he doesn't exist anymore.
Apparently he doesn't exist anymore.
Packerbacker
Quantum Scribe
Sheesh! /ttiforum/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Angleochoas
Quantum Scribe
Sorry Packer, didn't mean to come across rude. I had been looking into it and inevitably came across Al Bielek at every turn, whom I took for granted is quite the 'nutter.
Perhaps the person I'm referring to passed away, or perhaps wanted to enjoy retirement without being hounded over questions. Not sure.
As soon as I heard 'credible' sources close to Mr. Bielek say he'd incorporate what they said to him as suggestion shortly after during his 'seminars' for profit, it's quite obvious.
Money and the fantastic was his motive.
It just blows me away he doesn't care to observe the perception it gives everyone of him lol.
Perhaps the person I'm referring to passed away, or perhaps wanted to enjoy retirement without being hounded over questions. Not sure.
As soon as I heard 'credible' sources close to Mr. Bielek say he'd incorporate what they said to him as suggestion shortly after during his 'seminars' for profit, it's quite obvious.
Money and the fantastic was his motive.
It just blows me away he doesn't care to observe the perception it gives everyone of him lol.
Packerbacker
Quantum Scribe
Al Bielek is one of the major sources for the assertion that there was a "Philadelphia" Experiment. He says it was his brother that was caught half in and half out of the ships' deck. Al Bielek and Bob Lazar both tell fantastic tales: Bielek claims he traveled 20(?) years into the future.(Pardon me if I'm not getting his story sequence straight).He was a sailor on the ship when the experiment took place.There were supposedly two survivors who told the tale.
Is it possible that the "old vet", unbeknown to you, actually was Al Bielek?
The man you need to talk with this about is Olly B.--a member of this forum who shows up only now and then.
This topic leads into: The Montauk Project, The Biefeld-Brown effect, and the Shaver Mystery.
Is it possible that the "old vet", unbeknown to you, actually was Al Bielek?
The man you need to talk with this about is Olly B.--a member of this forum who shows up only now and then.
This topic leads into: The Montauk Project, The Biefeld-Brown effect, and the Shaver Mystery.
Angleochoas
Quantum Scribe
From what I see of that Al character now, it doesn't fit from what I recall.
Olly seems like an interesting person, he's British isn't he?
(I don't see him around so sorry if he's reading this ^^)
Olly seems like an interesting person, he's British isn't he?
(I don't see him around so sorry if he's reading this ^^)
Packerbacker
Quantum Scribe
Oh yes. From the same neck of the woods as Acker Bilk--do you remember the sax classic "Stranger on the Shore,"by Acker Bilk?
Angleochoas
Quantum Scribe
I Wasn't familiar, though just watched a performance where he was main stage with the clarinet.
Very relaxing music - was probably quite something to hear live ^^
Makes one think of a different time and place. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Very relaxing music - was probably quite something to hear live ^^
Makes one think of a different time and place. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif