Past present future?

I am curious to know, is exactly what you mean when you use the term "entity" ?


I'd define an entity as something that has a discreet existence of it's own....such as an atomic particle.

However it's not as simple as that....as most particles only 'exist' relative to others via exchange of other particles ( such as virtual photons ). A particle that does not exchange in such manner quite literally does not exist !

It's a concept that is right at the heart of quantum mechanics. There is no absolute 'existence'. Everything exists relative to everything else, in a complex web of interchange of particles. Dark matter, for example, is almost on the boundaries of non-existence......if it did not interact gravitationally then relative to our universe it would not 'exist' at all ( but could still exist relative to other particles we know nothing of ).

The complicating factor is that all this exchange of particles takes time. Even gravity is mediated by exchange of virtual particles, gravitons, which travel at the speed of light. So gravity is not an instantaneous force. In fact, if any of the forces of nature were instantaneous......the entire history of the universe would be over in a split second. We rely on the relatively 'slow' speed of light for the universe lasting billions of years. In a sense, the speed of light......which is the speed of exchange of virtual particles....is the speed of time.

That is why one cannot seperate time from physical entities. Those entities only exist by exchange of particles, and that exchange takes time.

On a much deeper level, this means that the entire universe has no absolute 'existence', but we see only that much of it that interacts with us at any one moment. So 'the universe' keeps popping into existence every split second via particle interchanges as the exchanged particles reach us......and this is smudged over a period of time as different objects have different distance. So the idea of a single discreet 'universe' out there is very illusory indeed.
 
I agree with everything you wrote.

However, we still have a problem relative to the definition of "time".

This is why I use the term "force".

The exhange of particles is caused by force. Whether that may be active, or passive. The active forces are as you described in your reply:

"...we see only that much of it that interacts with us at any one moment. "

The passive force in essence :

" A particle that does not exchange in such manner quite literally does not exist ! "

I perceive time as a passive force, and as such, literally does not exist. Most people use the term "time" to signify measurements of motion. As you put it..." exchange of " .

An exact definition still escapes us, since our perceptions of the motion between moments is different. The movement "from" one event "to" another event in the physical universe may be defined, depending on scale ( some of which is beyond our capacity to comprehend ), however, in the non-physical universe, such as within our minds, time has no definition.

Do our minds exist ? Of course they do, although what we perceive "mind" to be -- may be an illusion just as you described.

Duration of time does not exist to the "mind". The "mind" has no idea what "time" it is, nor really has any definitive concept of the duration of movement between events ( or moments ).

To the whole of the Universe, physical or non-physical ( active force/passive force ) an arbitrary date as defined by a man-made measuring device, has no "real" meaning.

I believe "we" are on the same page, but grappling with terminology and the application thereof.

You might find the follwing threads to be worth your while to read through :


The Inward Spiral.......4-3-2-1-0

Between The Spirals.......A Stable, Closed Loop

The Outward Spiral.......0-1-2-3-4
 
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