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[Darby]

Greg,

I guess that when Darb comes back always debunking or seeing some sort of "trick" I am trying to pull out of my ass, I get a little disturbed.

Where did you get that from this:

I agree that we have people who purposely post nonsense "just because". I really don't believe that Greg is one of those people. Based on all of his posts since he joined the forum I'm convinced that he believes what he posts, wants to share his thoughts and get some feedback.

The real problem is that he posts in a form that he probably never uses when he's just having a casual conversation, whether in person, texting, on the phone or in an email. He ends up using language in his posts that isn't understandable to the reader. I'm encouraging him to post in terms that he might use in those conversations so we can get a better handle on his ideas.

In your last post you may have been annoyed at me but you suddenly, and I thank you for it, started to post in plain English that we can all understand. I got the message load and clear even if I don't understand why.

You call it debunking. What do you think that a real scientist goes through during the peer review process? The peer reviewers take the paper apart sentence by sentence looking for holes in the theory, looking for vague language that is not readily understandable, looking for statements that are not supported, looking for conclusions based on false premises, looking for math errors, etc. Of course scientists occassionally get pissed off at the reviewers because they've spent so much time putting their paper together only to get "knit-picked". In the end, however, the paper ends up being cleaned up and ready for publication (or its rejected). Stephen Hawking and Kip Thorne had a 25 year long ongoing peer review, with Thorne as the reviewer, concerning Hawking Radiation and whether or not there is information loss as a black hole evaporates. Thorne was there to debate Hawking every time Hawking spoke on the topic to fellow cosmologists. Is was friendly but is was unrelenting criticism from Thorne. Try enduring that sort of "debunking" for a quarter of a century from a friend.

It's the same here, though not quite as serious. All that I'm asking you is to go back and look at your initial post on the thread - read it, as best you can, as if it was new information to you and posted by someone else. Then ask yourself if people can actually understand the message absent being inside your brain where all of the other information concerning the topic is stored, i.e. all they know are the words on the page.

 

[gregoricalogic]

I found this the other day and thought you would like it?


NAZI TIME MACHINE

One of the world’s leading experts on Nazi Germany says Hitler mastered time itself, sending “time warriors” centuries into the future to conquer a world that is yet to be!

Dr. Kurt Fischer told a symposium in Mysen, Norway, that evidence accumulated over the past 64 years has convinced him that the Nazis developed a crude but working time machine before the fall of Germany in 1945.

He says parts of the machine and tattered blueprints were recovered from a bombed-out bunker in Berlin by Allied forces. And he suspects that Hitler, long obsessed with paranormal science, might have used the device to propel himself into the future and back on numerous occasions.

“Volumes have been written about the Nazis’ heavy water experiments and Hitler’s obsession with perfecting the atom bomb,” said Dr. Fischer. “But the cutting edge of Nazi technology was concerned with nothing less than the mastery of time and space itself.

“There is evidence to suggest that they did, in fact, open a portal. It couldn’t help them alter the course of World War II. But there is a very real possibility that it gave them a chance to win an even greater victory – the control and domination of our future.”

Fischer provided ample documentation for his broader theories during his presentation in Norway.

In a dramatic videotaped interview, secret Nazi physicist Erich Kreiner – now deceased – confirmed that he was one of 28 scientists who conducted the time-travel experiments.

He refused to name his colleagues and appeared to be addled or intentionally evasive when asked to discuss specifics. But he did say the Nazi goal was to send 5,000 elite troops to Germany in the year 2145, which was then 200 years into the future.


“There was some measure of success,” he said, adding that several technicians were sent decades into the future and returned to their own time before Germany fell to the Allies.

“I don’t know if there is a connection. But German police reported that a man in Nazi uniform appeared at a power plant near Dresden last August and later vanished from a heavily guarded cell,” said Dr. Fischer. “Was that man a Nazi time traveler? Unfortunately, we’ll never know for sure.”

Components of the purported time machine that were recovered from the Berlin bunker have long since been lost, he added. But detailed descriptions contained in Allied inventory reports suggest that it was no bigger than a filing cabinet and was designed to generate light and ultra-high frequency sound waves.

“It’s a chilling prospect, but the greatest threat to our future may not be an enemy that exists today,” said Dr. Fischer. “It might be the Nazis – and a world controlled by a madman.”