Nasa to debunk 2012 apocalypse myths

You really need to put the bong down, recall...

an indeed the Poleshift is a Restricted 4-Planetary body problem ... (1 Sun, 2 Nibiru, 3 Earth ,4 Dark Companion aka Nemesis)
and it may be considered as more realistic generalization of the restricted 3-body problem.
(as it has 2 degree of freedom for plane motion)...

I was waiting for recall to be clear enough with his "fake poor english" replies until he could not weasel out of it. So recall is actually now saying there is not just ONE anomalous body (Niburu) but TWO of them (Niburu and "Dark Companion").

And of course, according to recall, no one but "The Powers That Be" has noticed the affect these TWO bodies have had on the earth's orbit (or any other body's orbit for that matter). But wait, the story gets even more impractical as recall spins it:

Recall now wishes for us to believe that these two anomalous bodies are also constrained in their motion to be co-planar with the earth's orbit around the sun. (BTW, that fixes at LEAST one orbital element, possibly two, with this stipulation)

But that is not the most amazing thing of all. Somehow, according to recall, he can define a dynamics problem that consists of FOUR bodies operating in the same plane, and he only counts 2 Degrees Of Freedom (DOF). Clearly, recall does not know what he is talking about. Even if you constrain each body to only planar motion, recall, I am afraid that is going to be 2 DOFs PER BODY.

Your 2-DOF problem is really an 8-DOF problem. Or, at the very least, a 6-DOF problem if you make the (incorrect) assumption that the sun is not in translational motion.

But once again I will ask recall (and notice how he ignores these questions and does not answer): Please define what you believe to be the orbital elements of (a) Niburu and (b) Dark Companion.

And I will tell you (again) that you can NOT define orbital elements for these bodies that will also meet the stipulations you have put forward already.

RMT
 
But once again I will ask recall (and notice how he ignores these questions and does not answer): Please define what you believe to be the orbital elements of (a) Niburu and (b) Dark Companion.

And I will tell you (again) that you can NOT define orbital elements for these bodies that will also meet the stipulations you have put forward already.

RMT

Just Read page 1. Ray.

Duh!!!

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BTW, TPTB kills Professor Harrington (who was assassinated for his trying to get the truth out) , written in 1988, on Planet X:
link to adsbit.harvard.edu


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Just Read page 1. Ray.

Duh!!!

Speaking of "DUH!"... you appear to think a diagram such as the one you show here is sufficient to define the six required orbital elements? If so, you are wrong (again).

Take a look at the very end of the Harrington paper you cited. At least he cites proper orbital elements for his (best analysis) guess of how an anomalous planet's orbit would be defined. And if you know anything about orbital elements, those cited by Harrington are nothing at all close to the various baloney you have cited in this thread...starting with orbital inclination.

RMT
 
i only say above that the Harrington paper was an example of what TPTB do with whistleblowers...

Try Again!

Rather, I think it is you who needs to "try again." Your Niburu/Dark Companion BS is not holding up to even the most meager scientific scrutiny. But that is not surprising, because your record for ALL of your gloom and doom predictions here is a staggering 0.000000000000

EPIC FAIL!
RMT
 
John Titor & Two Suns

What about to use Music?
to address this one...

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Thanks Blair!!!!

Nice Mixing!

Quoted:
This is a remix of my fist track and the topic of time travel and the Two Suns. Enjoy. I'm in MP3 Format for u to down load. 03/05/2001 11:32 am (about the future) Q=) What music do 20 year olds listen to? A=) People listen to all types of music. A great deal of it is available over the web. I would also add that people spend much more time making their own music. Thank you for visiting & listening. Podcast also available.
Copyright: BTM Records.
end quoted

from:

Blair Multimedia Page...

Also to John, back to the Future:

Quoted:
ONE DAY - Björk

One day : it will happen
One day : it will all come true
One day : when you're ready
One day : when you're up to it

The atmosphere will get lighter
and two suns ready to shine just for YOU
I can feel it!

One day : it will happen
One day : it will all make sense
One day : you will blossom
One day : when you're ready


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Re: John Titor & Two Suns

Dear Reader
this may help:

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Is not "outside the Earth's orbit", but inside... a narrow one!


No, you completely miss the point. The CURRENT ( and previous, for the past decades ) position of the planet must surely be outside the orbit of the earth. Or to put it in the simplest possible terms....it is further away from the Sun than the Earth is.

Now.....it is mathematically and geometrically IMPOSSIBLE for an object that is further away from the Sun than the Earth to 'hide behind the Sun'. It doesn't matter what fancy convoluted orbits you contrive.

It's very simple. Draw a dot in the middle of a piece of paper, and then a small circle around it, for the orbit of the Earth. Now place Planet X anywhere on that paper outside the circle ( by definition, to hide behind the sun, Planet X must be on the same 'plane' as Earth.....the piece of paper ). The Earth, being closer to the Sun, will orbit FASTER than Planet X.......so no matter where on the paper you place Planet X....it MUST come into view for a part of the Earth's orbit. That is simply not debatable...it is FACT.
 
Remember all the cover up of the software of the sky? Yes in that position! Orion!


See here's where you show off your lack of astronomical knowledge. There is an imaginary line in the sky, called the Ecliptic, that represents the path the the Sun appears to travel across the sky as the Earth orbits it. The ecliptic is pretty much unvarying from year to year......it passes through all the constellations of the Zodiac....which is why we have such pseudo-science as astrology.

Orion does not lie on the ecliptic, but is somewhat south of it. There is thus no way that an object in Orion could hide behind the Sun............as the Sun never passes through Orion !
 
I think it ought to be mentioned that much of this discussion involves repercussions of the Pythagorean doctrine of Antichthon or "counter Earth." No one can figure out what exactly the Pythagoreans had in mind, but the teaching was that a counter Earth, which was always hidden from sight , revolved along with the Earth around a hidden central fire once a day. The odd part of all this was that the combined motion was equivalent to the Earth simply rotating on its axis every 24 hours.

I personally think that the Pythagoreans believed that the Earth was hollow, and that the central fire lay at the center. The counter earth is then the inside of the shell, or inner earth, which revolves around the central fire every 24 hours. The doctrine was a concealed teaching in other words.(Wikipedia has an entry on this).

During the early days of the UFO movement, one of the Contactee's told of meeting a spaceman from the planet "Clarion" which had exactly the same orbit and period as the Earth, but which was always hidden from sight behind the sun.

When the closet door is closed, we can't see what is inside the closet, as it is out of sight.
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When the closet door is closed, we can't see what is inside the closet, as it is out of sight.
There could be a gremlin in there. How can you be sure there isn't?

Because Tom Cruise is also in the closet...and we believe everything he reports to us viz-a-viz the goings-on inside the closet.


RMT
 
Re: John Titor & Two Suns

then you can see the orbit as a a 6-DOF problem ... :oops: :oops: :oops:

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Re: John Titor & Two Suns

then you can see the orbit as a a 6-DOF problem ...

If you really think so, then please name all 6 DOFs. I will tell you if you are correct.

In totidem verbis

Your Latin is poor. Probably trying to use a web translator, of which none of the free ones on the web do a very good job with Latin.

RMT
 
Re: John Titor & Two Suns

Your Latin is poor. Probably trying to use a web translator, of which none of the free ones on the web do a very good job with Latin.

RMT

Poor RMT, this is the Translation:

Ibidem

from Latin:
In totidem verbis
in English: - In so many words-

No web Translator used...

What about this one RMT, Related to Celestic Mechanics...and Kepler Laws:



Legum servi sumus ut liberi esse possimus

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