John Titor Real or Hoax
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I'll need a war to believe him
We are being prepared by some news outlets for a suspension of this year's elections if terrorists strike this year before the election.. and apparently a lot of people believe it's going to happen like in Spain.
Check this link out.. the site seems pretty anti-right wing but the article does have some interesting information.. 2004 Election suspended?
Suspending the elections will most definitely be controversial.. if we actually went far enough into martial law then I can begin to see the possibility for "mini-wacos" as people disagreeing with that decision are forcibly brought into line with martial law.
Speculation is speculation.. we'll see what really happens (or not, and life goes on).
Check this link out.. the site seems pretty anti-right wing but the article does have some interesting information.. 2004 Election suspended?
Suspending the elections will most definitely be controversial.. if we actually went far enough into martial law then I can begin to see the possibility for "mini-wacos" as people disagreeing with that decision are forcibly brought into line with martial law.
Speculation is speculation.. we'll see what really happens (or not, and life goes on).
I say hoax. John would never have made it as a military time traveler. You'd have to assume the program was at least as selective as that for an astronaut or a fighter pilot. Lots of tests, both physical and psychological. Given that JT had a mission to accomplish, his "sidetrip" to 2000-2001 and then risking his entire mission by posting to the internet are just not things that he would do IF he was what he said he was - a military time traveler. As a tourist, sure! But not while on a mission.
The other thing that says "HOAX!!" is the faxes sent to Art Bell back in 1998. The caller did not identify himself/herself. These were presented by Darby on the Anomalies board and were originally transcribed by Pamela from the Art Bell broadcast - I'll post one here - see if it looks familiar:
Sure looks like JT to me. But the fact remains that there are things he says that are NOT consistent with what JT said. And he totally blew it with the Y2K prediction.
There are a lot more things that point out a hoax, but that's all I have time for now.
The other thing that says "HOAX!!" is the faxes sent to Art Bell back in 1998. The caller did not identify himself/herself. These were presented by Darby on the Anomalies board and were originally transcribed by Pamela from the Art Bell broadcast - I'll post one here - see if it looks familiar:
Sure looks like JT to me. But the fact remains that there are things he says that are NOT consistent with what JT said. And he totally blew it with the Y2K prediction.
There are a lot more things that point out a hoax, but that's all I have time for now.
I think it's awesome that through the community we are able to do something about this subject.. to actively chase down the clues and identify whether this in fact a hoax or not. It's been really fascinating to watch! Great find there, it certainly sounds like the same person.. especially since the 2000/2001 JT claims to have done something about Y2K.
On the Anomalies forum there's talk about this older man who died around 2002?.. last name Titshaw.. related to the people at the John Titor forum. With his age I wonder if thats how the IBM computer came into the story, with his having had been involved with it?
On the Anomalies forum there's talk about this older man who died around 2002?.. last name Titshaw.. related to the people at the John Titor forum. With his age I wonder if thats how the IBM computer came into the story, with his having had been involved with it?
Tyson,
I doubt that Emmett Titshaw Sr. was involved with IBM. He was a marine in WWII. After 1945 he was a employed at a funeral home in Jacksonville, FL. But his experiences may have influenced the JT story. You can read a few of them in the Kwajulein Hourglass
Emmett Sr. is Larry Haber's father-in-law, in case you didn't pick that up on Anomalies. Emmett's son (Emmett Jr.) is a rather interesting person - he heads the Florida Air National Guard.
I doubt that Emmett Titshaw Sr. was involved with IBM. He was a marine in WWII. After 1945 he was a employed at a funeral home in Jacksonville, FL. But his experiences may have influenced the JT story. You can read a few of them in the Kwajulein Hourglass
Emmett Sr. is Larry Haber's father-in-law, in case you didn't pick that up on Anomalies. Emmett's son (Emmett Jr.) is a rather interesting person - he heads the Florida Air National Guard.
Darby
Epochal Historian
iq,
The problem with that statement is that if it is accepted as the criteria for truth testing for this or any other scenario then lying is equally as valid as telling the truth. All propositions, no matter how outrageous are equal.
For example: I may be wrong, but I'll assume that you've never been to the top of Mt. Kilimanjaro in Tanzania. You may not know this but the last three hundred feet up the mountain is actually coated with chocolate cream cheese. I challenge you to prove me wrong o to even find a single reference anywhere that says that it is not cream cheese (chocolate or otherwise).
If we are to accept your logic on the Titor issue then my statement is true until proved otherwise.
There is, in fact, an overwhelming body of very solid evidence to support the statement that the Titor Saga is a work of fiction.
Boomer was a very good writer in the most general sense. But when it came to the physics of time travel his base knowledge was almost nil. At best about all one can really conclude is that he he read Steven Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" and Michio Kaku's "Hyperspace" - two pop-sci books on the general subject.
The problem with that statement is that if it is accepted as the criteria for truth testing for this or any other scenario then lying is equally as valid as telling the truth. All propositions, no matter how outrageous are equal.
For example: I may be wrong, but I'll assume that you've never been to the top of Mt. Kilimanjaro in Tanzania. You may not know this but the last three hundred feet up the mountain is actually coated with chocolate cream cheese. I challenge you to prove me wrong o to even find a single reference anywhere that says that it is not cream cheese (chocolate or otherwise).
If we are to accept your logic on the Titor issue then my statement is true until proved otherwise.
There is, in fact, an overwhelming body of very solid evidence to support the statement that the Titor Saga is a work of fiction.
Boomer was a very good writer in the most general sense. But when it came to the physics of time travel his base knowledge was almost nil. At best about all one can really conclude is that he he read Steven Hawking's "A Brief History of Time" and Michio Kaku's "Hyperspace" - two pop-sci books on the general subject.
Roel van Houten
Quantum Scribe
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Leave it to a graphic artist to inject a well-needed laugh!
Well done, Mr. Van Houten!
Beer time for this Time Traveler! :D
RainmanTime
Well done, Mr. Van Houten!
Beer time for this Time Traveler! :D
RainmanTime
Roel van Houten
Quantum Scribe
Heineken or Budweiser?
RainmanTime
Super Moderator
Well now, Budweiser is WAY off the list. And my answer is going to seem funny since I was doing a bit of German-bashing.
St. Pauli Girl! I lived in Hamburg for awhile (actually, Buxtehude), and became so addicted to German beer. So St. Pauli is the best import I can find over here... but I'd rather have some of the Buxtehude Brauhaus microbrew!
Party on!
RainmanTime
Have you guys not heard of time travel within the sacred geometry of the merkaba ????? Why would you need to move your body physically when you can do it without the body and just move your conciousness to the desired location/timeframe / you use the akashic record to view the past and the sum total of present choices to move to a probable future ...
creedo299
Epochal Historian
Apparently, Titor suffered immensely.
The time he came from is shattered, to the point of almost being nonfunctional.
I didn't get this till understanding the relationship between his associate and himself, that he could not go on, without touching this time.
This is only getting to me now, that she did really care for him and that in this interplay there was a friendship for caring.
The time he came from is shattered, to the point of almost being nonfunctional.
I didn't get this till understanding the relationship between his associate and himself, that he could not go on, without touching this time.
This is only getting to me now, that she did really care for him and that in this interplay there was a friendship for caring.
It is certainly a possibility, that, if the civil war events do transpire, that John Titor was a genuine time traveller. However, even if civil war do break out, it still does not prove 100%, he was a time traveller, it proves that his political scenario was correct. There have been many before him who have already forecasted the emergence of NWO and civil wars. Titor's may just have predicted, by extrapolating from current events and political theories, the beginning of a civil war from the next US elections. I am however more inclided to the former, that Titor was genuine, if those events do take place near the next US elections.
I do think that something very catastrophic is going to happen, involving WMDS, as authorities are already warning against it, and preparing for it. I'll let you know this: it will be blamed on the ususal scape goat. Don't beleive a word of it.
I do think that something very catastrophic is going to happen, involving WMDS, as authorities are already warning against it, and preparing for it. I'll let you know this: it will be blamed on the ususal scape goat. Don't beleive a word of it.
I don't really believe he's real, but on the otherhand,some of his things seem logically..
one thing I surely do not understand is that he says they distill their water to get the radiated parts out of it, now, I'm no as old and wise as you guys, but in Chemistry Class I did remember I have learend that if you drink alot of distilled water, you dry out because of the lack of minerals and eventually..die
so I don't actually get it..
one thing I surely do not understand is that he says they distill their water to get the radiated parts out of it, now, I'm no as old and wise as you guys, but in Chemistry Class I did remember I have learend that if you drink alot of distilled water, you dry out because of the lack of minerals and eventually..die
so I don't actually get it..