John Titor Graphic Novel

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Larry

Temporal Novice
A graphic novel centering on the John Titor story should be available soon. With the moderators permission, we'd like to post one of the first few pages on this site.

Thank you.
 
The inking and script are nearly finished. I'd like to post a page or two here. If the moderators don't allow it, please email my office [email protected] and we'll send the pages to you for free.

The main artist working on the comic has done many Dark Horse titles and really enjoys the story.
 
Larry oh LARRY!! Looks like we are neighbors man.. Are you going to stick around for some questions after getting some free ad space or is this all you have for us? I've been waiting for someone to breathe some new life into the JT saga.


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Larry,

Will you verify that you are Larry Haber, the attorney for and business manager of the JTF, and not Buzzmaker or someone attempting to appear to be Larry Haber?

And because you've chosen to start posting on a discussion forum, are you willing to discuss the Titor story with us?
 
Yes, I am Larry Haber.

Earlier this month, I was interviewed by Jay Cheel for an upcoming documentary about time travel. Id rather not talk too much about it until they have a chance to release their film.

Thank you for the interest in the graphic novel. For all of you who sent email, we'll be emailing the first page to you. The inking and color work is done and the lettering is being completed this week. I'll try to post at least a frame or two before the weekend.

If there's an address to send the page to this site, please post it.
 
Oh, Larry"

Since this is a novel and the cautions advised by the board, are absolutely no pictures are allowed, in time travel use, as they will turn white or blank, the novel, will of course by illustrated?
 
Larry,

I have a legal question for you relative to time travelers and the stock market:

There was another supposed time traveler reported in an article. The article reported that the TT "couldn't resist the temptation" and turned $800 into $350 million over the course of two weeks and 126 trades. The SEC then took him into custody for insider trading. He then "admitted" to being a time traveler. (He has since jumped bail and disappeared).

Here's my analysis of the situation:

He's not an "insider" and he didn't use inside information to make his trades. He used publicly available (albeit in the future) stock information to make his buys and sells. That other potential traders couldn't time the market with his accuracy wasn't a matter of insider information it was a matter of his having better tools (a time machine).

I don't think that the SEC rules cover this disasterous situation.

I know that you don't practice criminl law and probably don't practice SEC law, but what is your analysis if you were defending the case (without claiming mental illness
)? Conversely, how would you prosecute the case?

I ask because time travel does pose some significant risks to the economy. If a time traveler could make the trades that the article suggests there would be no need for John Titor to engage in his revolution. He could bring down the entire nation by crashing the financial markets if he knew the daily opening and closing quotes for the individual issues on the markets.
 
There was another supposed time traveler reported in an article. The article reported that the TT "couldn't resist the temptation" and turned $800 into $350 million over the course of two weeks and 126 trades. The SEC then took him into custody for insider trading. He then "admitted" to being a time traveler. (He has since jumped bail and disappeared).
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LOL, Darby, i read this a few months back too, but after some research determined it was an internet hoax, and urban legend type event. one thing that proved this to be the case is that you cannot turn 800 into 350 mil in 126 trades in the specific amount of time he had to make his trades. quite literally buying at the bottom and selling at the very top during the time period this happened, was not enough movement in the stock to actually get up to this 350 mil number.

therefore i didnt read the rest of the crud u posted after it, because your stating this as fact and you ain't done your research...
 
MEM,

Yes, I'm serious. I know the SEC rules and there does not appear to be a rule that would cover this situation.

Would a time traveler be taking advantage of a "loop hole"? Sure s/he would. But I don't see any way that a case could actually be prosecuted under the current SEC rules.

Time travel does pose some (obvious) problems for financial markets. The stock market is a form of legal gambling based on a level playing field. You do your research, make your analysis and then place your bets (buys).

Casinos, for instance, are not limited by rules similar to SEC Rules. If a casino thinks that your taking advantage of the game they simply ban you from playing. But the SEC and the SRO's can't do that. They have to be able to refer to a specific SEC rule, other federal/state law or SRO regulation if they want to forbid a trade.

This question actually goes back to the very first time travel thread that I participated in - "Ethics of Time Travel."
 
Ren,

I agree that the day trading TT was a hoax story that Chad wrote. But it actually does pose an interesting legal question (well...at least I think that its interesting
).
 
Ren,

BTW - this is what I posted to one of my members the other day on Anomalies:

posted 20 April, 2005 22:01
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MindCeNse,

No, Chad Kultgen never wrote anything more about Carlssin.

It seems that Andrew gathered all the facts about the stock market for those two weeks...but failed to discover that he got arrested.

BTW: I don't know what the SEC would have possibly charged him with (assuming that this was a true event). Andrew didn't use "insider" information. One has to assume that he got the information from a public source, albeit in the future.

"Insider information" is information gathered from a person "inside" the company that is not available to all potential traders. If he got the information from a public source then it was available to all potential traders. That they didn't have the proper tool (his time machine) to discover the information would be a problem for the prosecution to make a case.

A $350 million stock fraud case would be listed on the SEC website. It never appeared there. At the time that this story "broke" I was in a position to make the proper inquiries - and I did. There was no "manhunt" by federal or state law enforcement for this person.

There are other huge holes in the story that involve proper identification, source of income and other qualifications to open a "margin" account with a brokerage. First, you can't do that with just $800. In fact, at that time, I don't know of any brokerage that would allow one to open a regular trading account with $800 - IRA, yes, regular account, no. The minimum is generally $2,500. Day-trader margin accounts require a lot more information than a regular account (or regular margin account)and the brokerage must approve the account. As of February, 2001 the SEC rules changed for day-traders and requires them to have a minimum of $25,000 in their account - not $800.

The story claims that he executed 126 trades in 10 trading days (maybe less as this appears to have happened during the two weeks between Sunday December 22, 2002 and the first week of January, 2003. Bit there were only 8, not 10 trading days during that period. Christmas and New Years Day fell on the following two Wednesdays. That means that, on average, he had to make 16 trades per day. He would be a day-trader.

When you sell a stock that doesn't mean that the money is immediately available. Settlement occurs three days later. So he would have to have a margin account (that he didn't qualify for). He would only have limited cash available for the first week...and his profits would have been relatively small given the small initial account seed capital. He would have had to have made almost all of the money on the last three trading days.

If you're really interested in the case you should do some research. Start by looking at some of the online stock brokerages and look at their margin account applications to see what he would have had to have provided to open one.

And there really weren't any listed stocks (NYSE, NASD, AMEX) that would have given him the movement to turn $800 into $350 million in 8 trading days. That means the penny stock (Pink Sheet) over-the-counter market. That portion of the market is rife with fraud and no brokerage that deals with Pink Sheet stocks would allow him to margin sufficiently to pull this off. They don't necessarily have access to all of the pink sheet stocks.

Again, you should do some research on this portion of the market rather than taking my word on the subject.
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Darby,

then i fail to understand the point here? Even the over the counter penny stocks aren't going to give you enough VOLUME to move this much. if you made 200% a day total on your 16 trades, you would still only have a few hundred thousand after 10 days. the thing was even linked through some yahoo/astrology or horroscope website. similar to "the national enquirer" in that it has no real sources for information. what is the point you were trying to make?
 
Ren,

You're absolutely correct.

The point of my question for Larry involves a much more deft approach by a time traveler. They have "all the time in the world" to make their trades. A real time traveler would not have to do it on 10 consecutive trading days.

In fact, a real time traveler would only have to invest $100 in GMC circa 1930 and let it ride. This would still pose a few problems for the TT to manage the account over the years...which could be a matter of hours or days for the TT.
 
darby,

then you steal something valuable but worthless at the time and sell it when its priceless. who cares about the stock market. I mean come on. there are much better ways to earn money if that were the inclination of a time traveler.
 
darby,

then you steal something valuable but worthless at the time and sell it when its priceless. who cares about the stock market. I mean come on. there are much better ways to earn money if that were the inclination of a time traveler.
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If I may interject my own view here, Ren... I think I "see" the deeper, quantum, probabalistic, non-linear point that Darby is making with this line of questioning and thought. And I applaud him for calling this into focus. Let me see if I can encompass the point he is making, and maybe he will give me a YEAH or NAY to let me know if I am "getting it".

I think Darby's point is "ignore whether or not this quoted story is true. How would we deal with it in our Linear Law if it ever became true?" IOW, he showed how any Time Traveler with knowledge of the past could show up in 1929+ and invest in GM (or any other industrial company) and earn their fortune...

If any TTer could do this, and if several TTers actually were to carry this out, don't you think out Linear Law should someday expand to include provisions such that people who really CAN return to the past from our future, and PLAY THE MARKET to achieve their own riches, should somehow be prosecutable for being able to POLLUTE and INFLUENCE our timeline?

Should our legal system start thinking about what happens when Quantum Events begin to control where our future evolution leads us?

Darby...am I understanding your "deeper" point in this??? Or am I looking TOO deep?

RMT
 
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